Adalah pada masjid pada zaman para sahabat r.a itu tempat berkumpul sekumpulan sahabat-sahabat Rasullulah s.a.w.
Semua mereka itu sanggup mengeluarkan fatwa dan semuanya menolak untuk memberikan fatwa.Dan setiap yang di mintakan fatwanya maka dia ingin bahawa mencukupilah fatwa itu oleh orang lain.Maka seketika ini sayogialah bahawa ia menjaga diri dari setan-setan manusia apabila mereka mengatakan “Janganlah engkau kerjakan ini bahawa pintu ini jikalau di buka niscaya terhapuslah ilmu pengetahuan dari antara makhluk.Dan hendaklah dia mengatakan kepada mereka “Bahawa Agama Islam itu tidak memerlukan aku dan seperti demikian juga Islam akan ada sesudah aku.Jikalau aku mati nescaya tidak akan roboh sendi-sendi Islam.Bahawa agama ini tidak memerlukan kepada aku.Adapun aku maka tidaklah aku terlepas dari perbaikan hatiku.Adapun terbawanya yang demikian kepada terhapusnya ilmu maka itu adalah khayal atas penghabisan bodoh.
Bahawa manusia jikalau di tahan di dalam penjara di ikat dengan ikatan-ikatan dan di janjikan dengan neraka kerana menuntut ilmu nescaya kesukaan menjadi ketua dan ketinggian membawa mereka menghancurkan ikatan,merobohkan dinding benteng dan keluar daripadanya dan bekerja dengan menuntut ilmu.Ilmu itu tidak akan terhapus selama setan itu mengajak makhluk kepada mencintai menjadi ketua.Dan setan itu tidak akan luntur dari pekerjaannya sampai hari kiamat.Bahkan akan bangkit beberapa kaum untuk mengembangkan ilmu yang tiada keuntungan bagi mereka di akhirat sebagaimana Rasullulah s.a.w bersabda “Bahawa Allah menguatkan agama ini dengan orang-orang yang tidak mempunyai akhlak”.Di rawikan An Nasa’i,Ibnu Hibban dan lain-lain dari Anas.Dan lagi sabda Baginda s.a.w “Bahawa Allah menguatkan agama ini dengan orang yang zalim.Di riwayatkan oleh Ath Thabrani dari Amr bin An Nukman.Maka tiada sayogialah orang yang berilmu itu terpedaya dengan penipuan ini lalu ia menyibukkan diri dengan bercampur aduk dengan makhluk sehingga terdidiklah di dalam hatinya kecintaan kepada kemegahan,pujian dan kehormatan.Bahawa yang sedemikian adalah bibit kemunafikan sebagaimana Rasulullah s.a.w bersabda “Mencintai kemegahan dan harta itu menumbuhkan kemunafikan di dalam hati sebagaimana air menumbuhkan sayur-sayuran.Di rawikan Abu Naim dan Ad Dailami dari Abu Hurairah dan akhir sekali sabda Baginda s.a.w “Tidaklah dua ekor serigala yang buas yang di lepaskan ke dalam kandang kambing itu lebih banyak mendatangkan kerusakan padanya di bandingkan dengan cinta kepada kemegahan dan harta pada agama manusia muslim”.Di rawikan oleh Ath Thabrani dari Usamah bin Zaid..

CONGRATULATION MIDDLEAGES..

How befitting…:)
Ribuan terima kasih Tun.

Late responses for Amin Tan please.

Dear MiddleAges,
You asked me how would I defend islam. My answer is to explain the truth as what i know and expose the falsehood of those hypocrites.

Since when is your truth the absolute truth ? Can it pass scientific test of truth ? Can you produce God as evidence ?

What falsehood are you talking about ? Do you aspect the whole brutal truth in everday life ? But then can you accept the brutal truth ?

Just because you have certain beliefs, perhaps they are strong maybe, but i suspect not, as you are rather shaky when questioned, it does not mean you can impose them on others. You can recommend, not impose.

You said I follow the faith with blind obedience. Yes, I agree with you. I pray 5 times a day. I fast from dawn to dusk for the whole month of Ramathan and I try to follow the teaching of islam as laid out in the al Quran. I try to eat only halal food. What have I said that make you say I am a liar?

Because you do it all not for God, not for your own good, but for showing and even telling others how religious you are ! I’m sorry, i just don’t buy tickets for religious demostrations.

What do you understand by no compulsion in islam? Once a person is a Muslim he or she must abide by Muslim principles enforceable by the religious authorities. Non Muslims are excluded from enforcement of Islamic principles. For Muslims, drinking alcohol in public and zina are offences.

amin tan

May I thank Saudara Wajaperak for explaining basic principle in Islam. I believe Saudara Wajaperak has Hidayah and Mr MiddleAges has not.

[[...Says who Amin Tan, and how is this to be done ?
Who appointed you or anyone here to “defend the sanctity and honour of islam ” ? May we see the letter of appointment ?]]
You, mister clearly do not understand the concept..This is the underlying principle of the role playing everybody must undertake..For whom Allah has bestowed more than the other as the designated ( slave / servant ) with proper physique and the proportioned intelligence, he or she must step forward and claim the role..To whom, who does not have what it takes, must step aside..What happened here to Middleages?..
He took the role that was reserved for the Iblis and its army of syaitan..The pertinent question will be…

WHY?…..:)

Middleages underline the other pertinent matter that there is no compulsion in Islam..Too true mister..But do you know the real context behind the concept?
Why do you respect this world law, rule and regulation but do not give a damn about the hereafter convention?..
In this world you do not allow the choice in the middle of a flight…//

Just like the call to Friday Prayer to the Faithful. Every able Muslim male will make it to the nearest mosque of their own volition. It happens every where wherever there is a Muslim population. The defence of the honour and sanctity of Islam is the responsibility of each and every Muslim.
You do not change destinations in mid flight means a Muslim must abide by rukun islam and rukun iman. Enforcement shall be carried out against Muslims who do maksiat by Muslim institutions.
If MiddleAges means enforcement of muslim laws against Muslims doing maksiat, is compulsion in islam, then you are right because islam does not want non compliance hypocrites. Thank you Saudara Wajaperak and thank you Tun for providing the forum and taking the lead.

amin tan

Please allow me to address Mr MiddleAges. I hereby reproduce his comment

//MiddleAges
October 5, 2012 at 3:38 am | Permalcvbdsvv
I wish to intervene in the war of words between Amin Tan and Abdul Aziz Omar please.
Amin Tan says to Abdul Aziz Omar :-

It is the duty of every true blooded muslim to defend the sanctity and honour of islam and not try to give the enemy any space to take a pot shot at islam or its Prophet. Any attempt, covertly or overtly, to undermine the faith should be countered.
Says who Amin Tan, and how is this to be done ?
Who appointed you or anyone here to “defend the sanctity and honour of islam ” ? May we see the letter of appointment ?
The problem is exactly what you say, the “faith”. The basis of faith of people like you is based on blind obedience, and this leads to a highly emotional and negative reaction if someone so much as laugh at your Prophet, even if it is truly funny.
If your faith is based on solid understanding of the principles of Islam, or any good world religion for that matter, you would instead be laughing at the “attackers” for their ignorance.
There is no need for any human being to defend Islam, with its fine divine principles. You just cannot win against God or Divine Principles because it is time tested and proven.
Therefore, let those who disbelieve say what they want. How come those who claim to have faith suddenly loose their faith when challenged ? Clearly, their faith is not as strong as they claim to have. That is why i say they are liars.
I agree with you when you say we ( you and me ) are very different. And it is not that i am here to challenge your faith. But when you or anyone break the fundamental principles of the very thing you people claim to preach, ( like as in the principle of freedom of religion and belief as stated by the Quran ( no compulsion in religion ) ), and when such events and consequences reach my doorstep, when religion is abused, then it is time i appear in Tuns blog and speak up.
I don’t care, mana boleh tahan lagi. Widespread rampant abuse of religion for political, racial, personal and even monetary gains. Tuns followers here are like sheeps agreeing to every single thing Tun says and hitting hard those who disagree. I sometimes wonder if Tun has a name for this religion.
I think i have made myself clear enough.
Thank You Tun//

Dear MiddleAges,

You claim you are a Malay Muslim living in Subang Jaya. Correctly if I am wrong. You asked me how would I defend islam. My answer is to explain the truth as what i know and expose the falsehood of those hypocrites. You said I follow the faith with blind obedience. Yes, I agree with you. I pray 5 times a day. I fast from dawn to dusk for the whole month of Ramathan and I try to follow the teaching of islam as laid out in the al Quran. I try to eat only halal food. What have I said that make you say I am a liar? What do you understand by no compulsion in islam? Once a person is a Muslim he or she must abide by Muslim principles enforceable by the religious authorities. Non Muslims are excluded from enforcement of Islamic principles. For Muslims, drinking alcohol in public and zina are offences.

amin tan

Just the other night, a group of Taiwanese who came to Kuala Lumpur to attend a social event was found to have overstayed the period of their tourist visas. They were arrested and complained that they were roughly handled by the Government personnal.

This seems to be a normal news item which also affect the other nationalities too. But such headlines will give our beloved Malaysia a bad name.

Where was the Minister for Tourism (?London) ? Where were the officials of the Ministry for Tourism ? Where were the well-known social workers ? Where was the MCA ? and so on to ease the sufferings of the foreign innocents.

In the year 2012, I propose that any social or business gathering in which foreign participants are expected, the organisers should fore-warn a Unit in the Ministry for Tourism and a Unit in the police about the forthcoming event and furnish a list of the names of the foreign participants and pariculars of their visa within 24 hours of their arrival.

This is done surreptitiously by Singapore who copied Switzerland in such arrangements. The latter had perfected this since the 1950s more than 60 years ago. All who stay overnight in Switzerland are required to report to the police authorities within 24 hours through their hosts eg. hotels or friends.

Thus, our beloved Malaysia will not be embarassed by screaming and complaining foreigners and we wil uphold our friendliness and hospitality reputation which is well-known throughout the World.

This is good for tourism and goodwill. We should be friends with everyone.

Vote BN for progress and continuity always.

For Sudin, thanks an evergreen million !

Not many people realize that the practice of being normal is an important
adjunct to our lives until it is too late. Working normally, eating normally, taking holidays normally, loving the family and dear ones normally etc is the way to an evergreen future.

But here lies the problem of ageing now occurring in all parts of the World. Thanks not to the doctors who are the same as always but the advances in the development of the medicines which has contributed much to us living and loving longer and longer. This is the problem for all countries to come.

My comments on Tun are normal.

I stood aside for many years when attacks after attacks were mounted on him and his character to break him down, to break UMNO down, to break what we all the Malaysians, the Malays, the Bumiputras, the Chinese and Indians and others have achieved in our lifetimes. Then, I thought it is time to tell the facts, the truth and not much more ! What could be said factually would be commented on. No more ! No less !

I say once again I have never received money or a medal from Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad. The only thing I got from him was his signature in his book which I never opened or read.

And I have 2 pristine copies of his ‘Malay Dilemma’ which I never opened and read since I bought them at S$ 7.50 cts each at Donald Moore’s Bookshop, Orchard Road, Singapore, of all places, in 1970 !

I felt it was absolutely unfair that the broad strokes on the canvas of the successful of achievements of Tun and his predecessors were just trampled on – just like that.

There are really no differences in political philosophies or beliefs. What is the raison de’tre for all the iconoclastic movements and actions as if to turn the whole Malaysian society upside down ? Why ? I really do not understand. Maybe I am stupid or naive.

To me, this means all of us Malaysians are trampled on as well !

And the daily nit-picking to tickle the dinosaur.

Hey! Where is the civility ? The majority of us come from 3 major civilizations – the Muslim World of 1.2 Billions (150 Millions Malays), the Indian (1.1 Billions) and the Chinese (1.2 Billions) and others. And we were all not born out of a rock !

What about our icons the Royal Sultans, and the heroes, the politicians, the generals, the policemen, the soldiers, the teachers, the sportsmen and women etc ?

And last and best of all we are Malaysians of a unique land called Malaysia.

Watchout all Malaysians ! Vote BN or we will all be trampled upon !

[[...Says who Amin Tan, and how is this to be done ?
Who appointed you or anyone here to “defend the sanctity and honour of islam ” ? May we see the letter of appointment ?]]
You mister clearly does not understand the concept..This is the underlying of the role playing everybody must undertake..For whom Allah has bestowed more than the other as the designated ( slave / servant ) which proper physique and the proportioned intelligence,he or she must step forward and claimed the role..To whom who does not what it takes must step aside..What happened here to Middleages?..
He took the role that was reserved for the Iblis and it’s army of syaitan..The pertinent question will be…

WHY?…..:)

Middleages underline the other pertinent matter that there is no compulsion in Islam..Too true mister..But do you know the real context behind the concept?
Why do you respect this world law,rule and regulation but did not give a damn about the hereafter convention?..
In this world you does not allowed the choice in the middle of a flight…Your ticket says you are on to Timbuktu but in the middle of the flight you demanded the right of the choice to go to Mekah instead..We will allowed you to change course after..after we land and off you go to your preffered destination..Your right will not be entertained in the middle of the flight!!!..
And we muslimin stick and bind to the regulation.
We were not allowed to change our choice of the religion in the middle of the flight!!!..
What?..You still insisted on your choice?…
Too bad then…jettisoned yourself but do not tries to convince the other passengger to follows you…
The folly will be your’s..

Terima kasih Tun..

The problem is exactly what you say, the “faith”. The basis of faith of people like you is based on blind obedience, and this leads to a highly emotional and negative reaction if someone so much as laugh at your Prophet, even if it is truly funny.

If your faith is based on solid understanding of the principles of Islam, or any good world religion for that matter, you would instead be laughing at the “attackers” for their ignorance.

There is no need for any human being to defend Islam, with its fine divine principles. You just cannot win against God or Divine Principles because it is time tested and proven.

Therefore, let those who disbelieve say what they want. How come those who claim to have faith suddenly loose their faith when challenged ? Clearly, their faith is not as strong as they claim to have. That is why i say they are liars.

I agree with you when you say we ( you and me ) are very different. And it is not that i am here to challenge your faith. But when you or anyone break the fundamental principles of the very thing you people claim to preach, ( like as in the principle of freedom of religion and belief as stated by the Quran ( no compulsion in religion ) ), and when such events and consequences reach my doorstep, when religion is abused, then it is time i appear in Tuns blog and speak up.

I don’t care, mana boleh tahan lagi. Widespread rampant abuse of religion for political, racial, personal and even monetary gains. Tuns followers here are like sheeps agreeing to every single thing Tun says and hitting hard those who disagree. I sometimes wonder if Tun has a name for this religion.

I think i have made myself clear enough.

Every individual have their right of opinion and speech.But whether it is rational, positive, factual or just a denial or hatred ought to be viewed on a wide spectrum.
Tun speaks for himself on his own blog.Tun has proven record whether locally or internationally.

Tun admits that he made grave mistake by accepting DSAI into UMNO without studying his background thoroughly until very lately.Also he admitted cannot control money politic in UMNO.He also made mistake by chosing DSAB as Prime Minister which caused present political turbulence where DSNTR had to endure and solve.

Sorry to comment on you Joase, whatever Tun write and comment are outrightly wrong to you.I followed your writing which are full of hatred toward Tun, UMNO and the malays in general.But as mentioned ealier everybody have freedom of speech and you can say elephant can fly and up to the people to believe.

You claimed Tun losing the confident of the people but the volume of visitors to the blog speak for itself.In democracy majority ruled and you cannot angry with people not in favour of your opinion and if majority of people still idolising Tun not becaused they are dogmatic or plain stupid but because Tun speak rationally , with fact and figures and most of it he has proven record. Have you Joase ? Dare to speaks as of youself ? Exposed youself and show what are your contibution to the country or maybe one of those receiving Sorros fund.