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CENSORING THE INTERNET 75

1. Not knowing the power of the Internet, I promised that we (speaking as the Prime Minister of Malaysia) would not censor it. But today I have changed my mind.

2. I have done so because the players, including those controlling the servers have been applying their own censorship of what can appear in this alternative media. I myself have suffered from such censorship.

3. When I put on my blog, an article on the Jews, without any explanation, my article was prevented from being linked to Facebook.

4. But that is not all. I first used the internationally available platform to host my blog. When hundreds of thousands visited my blog, suddenly the platform rejected hosting my blog site.

5. I changed the platform but again it was blocked. I have now changed servers and platforms three times. Still there have been attempts to block my blog. Not to mention the numerous spam and virus attacks against my blog.

6. Blocking is of course a form of censorship. The internet is not the free alternative to the state-controlled print and electronic media it is touted to be. It is subject to even more censorship than Governments could exercise. The people who hosts these platforms and servers can censor. And various other means are available to the powerful controllers of the new media for them to censor in the interest of their politics.

7. There is no freedom of the alternative media. Governments and the owners of servers and platforms and assorted others can censor the alternative media. It is actually less free than print and electronic media operating under Government licences.

8. I think it is time we stop talking of the freedom of the press. Let us admit that the press needs to be censored. It needs to be censored because freedom, any kind of freedom will always be open to abuse. The worst abuses are in the field of morality.

9. The internet has played a major role in undermining public morality. Our children are not safe from the kind of filth that the print and electronic media promote. Today any child can access pornography of the worse kind. Children are no longer safe from sexual assault. So are young girls and boys as the internet arouses the kind of base feelings that we curbed before.

10. Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender or LGBT is openly touted as a part of human rights. We accept that some people are born with indeterminate sex. They were forced to hide their unusual proclivities. But now that LGBT is accepted, normal people have also taken up the practices of those who were born handicapped. And worse still certain religions have abrogated the injunctions of their religion against abnormal sex so as to be seen to be keeping up with the times.

11. Incest, child sex, sex with animals, sexual parties, sex in public and many other practices which we still feel are wrong will soon be a part of the expression of freedom and equality. All these will promoted on the internet.

12. I don’t care how sacred is freedom but I think the time has come for Governments, at least the Malaysian Government to censor the internet.

75 thoughts on “CENSORING THE INTERNET

  1. YK Sep 18,2014 5:21 PM

    Information is a double edge sword. Depends on which receiving end. If Tun truly feels terrible when your blog was blocked / censored by ISP (due to your comments about Jews), then I’m sure the same sentiment is felt when local newspapers were gagged and filtered by our government. Information and censorship are neutral, it’s how one uses it.

  2. Theresa Aug 26,2014 5:53 PM

    Dr Mahathir,

    Thank you for expressing your concerns over the misuse of information being circulated over the Internet. As a mother of three children I found your comments and concerns about children being exposed to pornography and homosexual and transexual viewing material on the Internet to be very pertinent and timely. It was refreshing and comforting as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses to hear you express a stand for morality in this day and age of anything goes. The view many of us have here in the west of Muslim men is contrary to the fears you expressed about children and immorality. I agree that all sexually illicit video’s or movies should be censored from the Internet but I will not hold my breath. In reality the world is pretty much run by the degenerate and corrupt and they are gaining a larger stronghold. Here in the US the currupt, immoral, degenerate Elite unfortunately control most of government, schooling, churches, mass media, entertainment and much of industry and also parts of our justice system. However we still have a measure of freedom in our ever growing police state though most are to busy being entertained by sports and endless television shows and movies to even notice we are losing our freedoms moe and more with each passing day. However freedom to watch immoral movies or you tube videos isn’t true freedom, it is perversion. The Internet is a double edged sword and as parents we need to be vigilant about protecting our children from it’s dangers. In general I do not support censorship however pornography and sexually explicit material should be prohibited.

    Thank you Dr Mahathir for posting this article and for allowing me to voice my concerns and opinions. I appreciate your openess and honesty and your allowing various diverse and even opposing opinions to be articulated on your webpage. You have allowed me a platform to express my religious views as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and for that I would like to express gratitude and to thank you ever so kindly.

    We live worlds apart across a vast ocean yet I see that we are not at all that different.

  3. ilioni Aug 25,2014 6:13 PM

    Salam Tun,

    Your observation about downward spiral trend in our country is a real issue. Without proper channel to make it known to the public is not going to do any thing good. Take for example the issue that came up recently about the reduction of Medical seats in the public universities.

    Let’s take a look at how thing have progressed over the years and how we manage a problem. These guys making policies just don’t know what they are doing.

    1. Many years ago, there were issues that we lack of doctors and doctors are being stretched over long working hours.

    2. Someone on the top solved it by starting to produce doctors like factories by letting private institution mushrooming.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medical_schools_in_Malaysia

    3. Obviously, these people are trying to solve problem looking at the numbers instead of the profession itself which involves life and death of the patient!

    4. By doing this, now we have reached a point where we have too many doctors coming into housemanship training.

    5. Too many Medical houseman doctors without enough facilities for them to practice means that we are creating a substandard doctors who doesn’t have adequate hands-on training!

    6. Now, this is a problem. We need to reduce the number of doctors that we are producing and let’s reduce the number in the public universities to stop this.

    http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Education/2014/08/24/Too-many-doctors-so-intake-for-medical-courses-reduced/

    7. Should we not review the existing private medical schools and cut the intake on the private medical schools rather than public ones? Public universities are catered the more affordable options for our fellow Malaysians and they are very well established and this is where we should be focusing!

    8. Should we not review why there are so many students with such good results? Is it because we have dropped our standard too low that we are unable to identify the really top of the cream students?

    9. I totally understand that there are other important aspect of being a good doctor but the best measurable thing is to get the best academic result person who are interested into the profession. Other aspect such as being caring, responsible and diligent can be observed when someone is applying to further their studies into their specialized field.

    10. Two wrongs don’t make a right…

    To close this, I would like to share a good article (opinion) that I read today.
    http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/letters/2014/08/25/private-medical-schools-are-a-dangerous-epidemic/

  4. ilioni Aug 25,2014 4:39 PM

    Salam Tun,

    Thanks for your “WajaPerak” response. The reason why I extracted out balance comment is because it make people think and there is many interpretation for different people.

    [Life can be very beautiful if dont take thoughts as truth]
    This is from someone who says ‘No religion too’..
    { My interpretation: If you don’t believe everything in Internet as truth, it would not be as bad. If one says Life can be beautiful if one says “no religion too”. My belief is that their time to believe in a religion isn’t there yet. }

    [Space (as boundless three-dimensional) is everywhere, everything and a reality]
    Do you know Einstein have discovered more in his Theorem of mass relativity?
    It is about time stand still or can be reached back at certain point.Proving that Israq and Mikraj as true..
    { My interpretation: Space has a wide meaning depending on how you want to read it whether scientifically or just from the Oxford dictionary. }

    [Without space we cannot insert or enhance things]
    Sure can.
    Where does Allah insert or enhance our life or soul??
    { My interpretation: Without given an alternative channel (space), any critical thinking comments will not see light and how is it possible to improve situation? }

    [Lossing can be winning.]
    This value depended on your life policy.
    If you support Israel,
    you are winning now.
    I am supporting Palestine.
    I will win in hereafter.
    Censoring the Internet?
    The world community have agreed to censure child pornography.
    Why not other values?
    { My interpretation: It is not always about Winning. Losing may have blessings behind it. I like this closing because losing now doesn’t mean losing forever and losing can also mean something positive. On the comment about “Why not other values?” What defines other values? Do you agree that it can be used to censor some information that shed bad light on the current government. If you think that Malaysia is equal to the governing political party and the current governing political party and it is perfectly fine that the system can be used as a tool to suppress bad light to do damage control. This is totally wrong. You can only improve when you learn from mistake though the hard way. What we need is to have a system that will work regardless of which political party in charge. }

  5. ilioni Aug 25,2014 4:38 PM

    Salam Tun,

    Thanks for your “WajaPerak” response. The reason why I extracted out balance comment is because it make people think and there are many interpretation for different people.

    [Life can be very beautiful if dont take thoughts as truth]
    This is from someone who says ‘No religion too’..

    [Space (as boundless three-dimensional) is everywhere, everything and a reality]
    Do you know Einstein have discovered more in his Theorem of mass relativity?
    It is about time stand still or can be reached back at certain point.Proving that Israq and Mikraj as true..

    [Without space we cannot insert or enhance things]
    Sure can.
    Where does Allah insert or enhance our life or soul??

    [Lossing can be winning.]
    This value depended on your life policy.
    If you support Israel,
    you are winning now.
    I am supporting Palestine.
    I will win in hereafter.
    Censoring the Internet?
    The world community have agreed to censure child pornography.
    Why not other values?

  6. ilioni Aug 25,2014 4:34 PM

    Salam Tun,

    Thanks for your “WajaPerak” response. The reason why I extracted out balance comment is because it make people think and there is many interpretation for different people.

    [Life can be very beautiful if dont take thoughts as truth]
    This is from someone who says ‘No religion too’..

    [Space (as boundless three-dimensional) is everywhere, everything and a reality]
    Do you know Einstein have discovered more in his Theorem of mass relativity?
    It is about time stand still or can be reached back at certain point.Proving that Israq and Mikraj as true..

    [Without space we cannot insert or enhance things]
    Sure can.
    Where does Allah insert or enhance our life or soul??

    [Lossing can be winning.]
    This value depended on your life policy.
    If you support Israel,
    you are winning now.
    I am supporting Palestine.
    I will win in hereafter.
    Censoring the Internet?
    The world community have agreed to censure child pornography.
    Why not other values?

  7. wajaperak Aug 25,2014 9:56 AM

    ilioni.
    Long time no see..:)

    [Life can be very beautiful if dont take thoughts as truth]
    This is from someone who says ‘No religion too’..
    [Space (as boundless three-dimensional) is everywhere, everything and a reality]
    Do you know Einstein have discovered more in his Theorem of mass relativity?
    It is about time stand still or can be reached back at certain point.Proving that Israq and Mikraj as true..
    [Without space we cannot insert or enhance things]
    Sure can.
    Where does Allah insert or enhance our life or soul??
    Lossing can be winning.
    This value depended on your life policy.
    If you support Israel,
    you are winning now.
    I am supporting Palestine.
    I will win in hereafter.
    Censoring the Internet?
    The world community have agreed to censure child pornography.
    Why not other values?

    Terima kasih Tun.

  8. ilioni Aug 24,2014 4:50 PM

    Salam Tun,

    Before I share my thoughts, I would like to recommend Tun to read balance’s comments. Particularly this one! Couldn’t have written any better with great meaning/substance in it..

    “Life infinity options
    You censored people, people can censor you too
    You veto someone, someone else will veto you
    People hate you, you have a choice not to hate people
    You smart, someone else clever
    People are selfish, you can choose not to be selfish
    You want privacy, dont take a public position
    You like nasi lemak, others like nasi kandar
    You like Proton, he/she likes Toyota

    Life can be very beautiful if dont take thoughts as truth.
    Space (as boundless three-dimensional) is everywhere, everything and a reality.
    Without space we cannot insert or enhance things
    Lossing can be winning”

    Let me start with my thoughts and I may be repeating some of the comments that others have done.

    1. The censorship by the Internet Service owner (be it the server hosting or other widely used social networking) has always existed and will always be there. Are there any alternative to it? For social networking services, there are recent news coming up that there are plans to look at possibilities of closing down Facebook in Malaysia. Question is that what is the alternative for the existing Malaysian Facebook users going to use to connect to the rest of the world or we prefer just to shut the door? Let’s look at what the Chinese Government has done, they have shut Facebook down but there is an alternative “weibo” for the Chinese Community to continue to connect to the rest of the community in the world. Are we able to provide similar attractive service to the Malaysian community? We shutdown one today; the pack will just move to another platform. Are we going to shutdown each and everyone of them? Are we going to shutdown youtube completely as well like they do in China as well?

    2. Any server that is put out in the Internet is prone to attack. I believe that Tun’s website is not alone in this regards. It happens to any online hosted websites; be it the government websites, pro-government websites, pro-opposition websites, etc. And, normally these attacks doesn’t comes by chance, it is targeted for a reason. Question is how can the effect be minimized? I believe that the answer to that is to have proper management and a group of competent IT personnel managing the situation.

    Tun mentioned that it’s time to stop talking about freedom of press even in the Internet and start censoring information. This is a double-edge sword, isn’t it? Critical comments can be easily shutdown by the current government and do you still think that the government will care to do their job properly?

    Whenever one person is given this absolute power, it is always prone to abuse. These filters/censorship are already available and have already been used before and we have seen these during the Election Time where certain youtube “pro opposition” videos are not accessible from Malaysia but is available anywhere else in the world. These are pretty sophisticated filtering and we are already seeing these censorship being abused for political/personal mileage.

    I totally support implementing filters for porn or other unhealthy social activities if this is the reason to do information censorship to protect our next generation from the corrupted information. It should be implemented as a free service available by any local Malaysia Internet Service Provider (ISP) on request basis. If this noble policy is used to mask other “covered” reasons, it should be thought twice.

    The one million dollar question is how do we implement censorship for the right reason without being abused.

  9. Malaysia Bagus Aug 16,2014 10:58 AM

    Salam Tun.

    Saya setuju dengan apa yang diperkatakan oleh rakan blogger Orang Lama @ http://chedet.cc/?p=1431#comment-119011 bahawa penapisan internet sangat diperlukan.

    Selain penapisan, saya fikir adalah perlu diwujudkan satu penyaluran yang sihat, kalau boleh disebut sebagai satu re-distribution channel untuk redirect/melencongkan atau membawa carian dan trafik ke satu tapak yang lebih bersih dan produktif. Kalau dah tapis, tapi tak tahu ke mana hendak dibawa atau disalurkan bahan tapisan (yakni individu dan trafik) maka itu juga akan mencipta masalah baru. Lamanweb yang dibekukan dengan poster amaran hanyalah satu tindakan SKMM yang bernada egocentric dan authoritarian tanpa penambahan nilai.

    Sebab utama bagaimana www ( world wide web ) dan internet membangun dengan pesat adalah sebahgiannya atas usaha gigih oleh programmer industri porno yang mencari jalan untuk melepasi sekatan kerajaan dan pihak berkuasa dalam penjualan hiburan lucah. Kejayaan mereka membisneskan internet telah secara tidak langsung mencipta satu lubuk kewangan yang dalam lagi gelap di mana wang bertukar tangan dalam sekelip mata dengan satu klik sahaja.

    Selain industri porno, portal berita seperti Malaysiakini, FMT, MalaysiaInsider dan banyak lagi website berbentuk hasutan adalah yang paling taksub dengan kebebasan tanpa sekatan di internet. Malahan sekarang ini kita lihat bagaimana selain porno, berita berbentuk hasutan juga ada nilai komersil yang tinggi dan boleh dijadikan bisnes lumayan. Lihat saja carta harga langganan Malaysiakini, itu belum termasuk perolehan dari paparan iklan dan tajaan.

    Jadi, kerajaan perlu mencari jalan baru, idea baru dan authentic supaya lamanweb dan portal berita yang ‘nakal’ itu boleh di-salurkan atau redirect kepada satu lamanweb yang positif, produktif, inovatif, infomatif dan tidak merosakkan moral dan mental. Hasutan porno dan politik adalah pencetus utama masalah jenayah dan perkauman yang semakin meningkat dan tiada petanda ianya akan reda.

    Cabaran bagi kerajaan ke arah censorship yang wajar ialah untuk mencipta content atau isi ( dan pengisian ) yang inteligen, berguna, bermanfaat, berwawasan, bermoral, sederhana, neutral dan bebas dari pendakwahan agama atau proselytism. Dengan cara ini, saya fikir, penerimaan ramai terhadap internet yang bermoral dan bertapis dapat diwujudkan tanpa banyak alasan dan bantahan.

  10. Orang Lama Aug 15,2014 10:20 PM

    Salam,
    Pada pendapat saya penapisan internet memang perlu. Anak2 muda kita mudah terpengaruh dengan apa yang terdapat dalam media elektronik. Penapisan internet memang perlu diadakan. Kalau tak ada had dunia ini tiadalah undang2.

    Portal Malaysianinsider pun ada penapisan tersendiri. Mana2 komen yang tak menyebelahi kaum bukan bumi dan Pakatan Rakyat biasanya ditapis keluar komen. Laman chedet saja yang lebih terbuka. Orang kritik bila kritik sesiapa pun termasuk Tun Mahathir. Berita kuar negara pun ditapis. Contoh terbaik berita Gaza di banyak memihak kepada Israel. Amerika yang dikatakan jaguh hak2 kebebasan pun tak amalkan kebebasan. nask serupa sebuah parti di Malaysia. Cakap lebih habuk pun tarak.

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    Mohon izin cerita Selangor.

    1. PAS dipermainkan PKR dan DAP dulu,kini dan selamanya
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    PAS dulu dikatakan dimain2kan UMNO sehingga merajuk keluar Barisan Nasional pada tahun 1977. Padahal masalah itu berpunca sesama orang PAS sendiri. Sekarang PAS dipermain2kan pula PKR dan DAP. Setiausaha DAP pernaj cabar PAS keluar Pakatan Rakyat. Bila sekarang isu Menteri Besar , PKR dan DAP masih buli PAS dengan menetapkan apa PAS perlu buat. Orang Lama pun sama suka cakap apa PAS perlu buat.

    Sungguh hairan dan sungguh ajaib beberapa pemimpin PAS lebih taat kepada pemimpin PKR.Buat apa la depa menyiksa diri jadi ahli PAS kalau hati lebih kepada PKR. Pelik sungguh pelik.

    Wahai lebai PAS hang pa duk diam2 pikiaq betui2. PKR dan DAP hanya perguna hang pa saja. Bila selesai kemelut Menteri Besar , depa akan buat perangai lama semula. percayalah.
    Hang pa kena buli lagi.

    Dulu depa puji Tan Sri Khalid. Sekarang depa keji Khalid. Pemimpin DAP dan PKR sehati sejiwa perangai serupa. Pinang dibelah dua. tak sedar2 lagi ke. Tak sampai berapa bulan lepas DAP hina PAS suruh keluar Pakatan, hari depa pula buli dan menakut2 PAS kalau keluar Pakatan akan kalah banyak.. Dah senang nanti depa hina hangpa balik. Tak sedar2 ke perangai ini? Hang pa ni ustaz2 , tokguru2 yang selalu baca AlQuran. Takkan tak tau perangai depa tu dah ada disebut dalam AlQuran.

    Setelah dibuli bertalu2, tiba2 exco PAS cakap depa sebenarnya nak selamatkan Selangor dari UMMO. Pi mai pi mai hang pa duk hentam UMNO juga. PKR dan DAP hentam PAS , kemudian PAS hentam UMNO. Apa punya cerita ni. Hang pa ni tak ada pendirian yang kukuh. Nak jadi pemimpin jadilah pemimpin yang betul2.

    Cakaplah perkara benar wahai Lebai2 PAS. Hangpa tu kata pejuang Islam. Cakaplah perkara benar.Dulu kan Tokguru hangpa kata tiada sebab nak tukar Khalid. Maka orang biasa macam saya ni faham tiada sebab pula exco PAS perlu berhenti kerana Khalid itu dipihak yang benar. Sejak bila hangpa belajaq cakap berbelit2 ni? Cakaplah benar,luruskan diri kerana Allah. Masalah sebenarnya orang Selangor dah faham sejak bermula dari Langkah Kajang , pemimpin PKR kerja duk cakap berbelit2. Kawan saya orang PAS fanatik pun dah mula insaf bahwa PKR dan DAP bukanlah sahabat baik untuk PAS padahal dia pun benci UMNO. Insya Allah mudah2an dia dan lain2 orang PAS terbuka hati utnuk berkasih sayang dengan orang UMNO.

    2. Empat Sekolah Persendirian Cina dapt RM2juta setiap tahun.
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    Nak tanya sikit ? betulkah dakwaan bekas exco Datuk Teng Chang Khim dalam portal berita bahawa bermula dari tahun 2009, empat sekolah Cina persendirian di Selangor mendapat peruntukan automatik dari kerajaan negeri sebanyak RM2 juta setiap tahun. Tu diaaaaaaa. banyak tu. Jika benar berita ini bermaksud setiap sekolah dapat 500ribu setahun . Selangor ni dah jadi Penang ke? Inilah masalahnya bila ada DAP dalam exco kerajaan. yamng ini yang jadi pantang orang Melayu. Kalau macam ini baik bagi UMNO lah pegang Selangor. Dengar cerita tapak2 ibadat di Selangor pun ada isu sekarang ni. Entah apa lagi masalah yang disorokkan oleh exco2 Melayu dalam Pakatan rakyat ni. jangan sampai harap pagar pagar makan padi.

  11. kartanikasuria Aug 12,2014 11:39 PM

    Assalamualaikum,

    Idea yang sangat bernas senantiasa dijangka dari Tun semoga ianya menjadi pedoman untuk semua anak bangsa, shukran khathiran!

    http://bit.ly/1AaHaHv

  12. Tun Perak Aug 12,2014 6:13 PM

    Salam,

    1. Censoring internet is not difficult.

    2. Internet works via ip based. We could even do selective censoring – Word “sex” can be filtered from public but the university could be allowed to search that word so that academic research could be done. Even the administrator could censor the word “sex” without censoring the word “sussex”.

    3. Political censoring ? if facebook do not want to publish article, then censor facebook and produce the alternative. Surely, their revenue would go down. That would teach them a lesson.

  13. Hajar Aug 12,2014 5:36 AM

    Salam YAB Tun,

    I totally agree with you on this matter. Kids and young people are in general unable to filter on their own the contents available in the Internet. Quite a number are easily influenced by bad acts/examples shown/displayed by immoral people.

    Tun’s blog is/was hacked and blocked because Tun is telling the truth about some events that most people are afraid to discuss openly.

    Thanks Tun.

    P/S: Today I was approached by 2 policemen while I was walking out of a train station at a small town in France. They were talking to me in French, but basically I knew that they thought I might be a ‘pendatang haram’. So, I immediately showed them my passport. They looked at it and let me go. I am not sure if it has got something to do with me wearing a ‘tudung’ -> ‘Muslim’.

  14. balance Aug 9,2014 8:17 PM

    Malaysia Bagus August 8, 2014 at 5:45 PM | Permalink

    Agree 100% with you. The Sultan of Selangor realise it too. We should not go overboard to be spiritually strong or weak. Let us be moderate and tolerance to each other and give peace a chance. Let us respect each other more as Malaysians. I would like to apologise if i wronged or hurt anyone while shiok writing my ideas.

  15. Malaysia Bagus Aug 8,2014 5:45 PM

    Salam Tun,

    the human tragedies in Gaza and Iraq is a wake-up call for us in Malaysia to not continue with racism and religious provocations as a means to gain instant support via hate politics.

    The ongoing spite between the Catholics and Muslims authorities in this country must stop before it gets out of hand.

    Both the Islamic dakwah and the Christian evangelist are guilty of proselytism in more ways than they are willing to admit. This religious one-upmanship must stop immediately or be stopped with full force of the law to avoid an ‘accidental’ ISIL uprise in our country.

  16. Tanggang Aug 8,2014 4:44 PM

    Salam Yg Bhg Tun,

    Don’t worry HBT456. Lim Guan Eng and Malaysiakini are wrong if they are to charge the patrolman . It was not his damn responsibilities to prevent the group from being nude as long as the Forest Reserve is not damaged by the group activities. He is just the ranger who took care of the reserve and not the Buddha or the Islam religion man. Don’t distort the issue to the patrolman.

    Salam Tun.

  17. sibotak Aug 8,2014 1:51 PM

    When last Teluk Intan Election
    DAP lost Blames the support of Media
    Yet They have Straits Times of Spore that back them all out
    Their own Promotions
    The Social Media , The Spore Govt ignores Rules when Malaysian carrying poster asking Malaysian to come back home to vote DAP
    Its likely same when the Malays Failed their Business
    They will Blame and according to the Bomoh
    Oh ! Kena Buat Orang itu sebab kedai tak nampak ,tak laku lauk berulat

    Sebenarnya lampu tak cukup , kedai terceruk baru nak mula , lauk berulat sebab
    Pengotor , cuci tak berseh , pakai air tadar air simpan tak masak

  18. sibotak Aug 8,2014 1:34 PM

    Media
    When I see the nudity photo in Penang
    I thought I saw a group of Orang Asli …… wondering why suddenly the are very Fair
    Likewise my first time saw HBT wearing G- String
    I thought it was Orang Asli pakai Cawat
    After seeing HBT wore G-String my Luck has gone hay wire….wow what a nightmare
    They need a True Figure to name it as an Art

    TO ANWAR BIN IBRAHIM PKR
    I believes you has seen The World has know How Brutal is Israel
    How Criminal Intentions of United States
    Standing besides Them , consenting yr true self , family , friends ,society to be Leashed
    by Them Out of yr very own personal angers & frustrations
    You be Abetting to the Crimes later by US & Israel not just to yr own Community
    BUT also to yr own Family
    Results ,Truth has been Revealed
    US IS Falling Russia ,China are Rising

    You will Regrets

  19. balance Aug 8,2014 1:07 PM

    Malaysia Bagus August 8, 2014 at 10:23 AM | Permalink
    What a good research and write-up!! If the Jews are super race then Malaysians are Superman, Batman, Spiderman and Hulk added together. Ha ha Those that claim they are super this and super that are the real super bodoh. Jews are just human with very very very big evil ego. They think they can control and conquer the world, let them wait lah. For me i surely will resist and give them as many trouble pills as i can. If we make fun and criticize the Jews then we must make sure we dont follow them by claiming to be super too.

  20. Malaysia Bagus Aug 8,2014 10:23 AM

    Salam Tun,

    we can never ever be on the same page as the Jews. They are of a special species and “Chosen DNA”. They have their own mission in this world to complete, where all non-Jews would fall under ‘collateral damage’. The Jews are the worst racist and proponent of ethnic cleansing and genocide, despite their extraordinary lifelong tirade against the Nazi, the Jews are The Beast who even the US General Patton regretted he saved from the Germans in WW2.

    “Jew and Gentile are two worlds, between you Gentiles and us Jews there lies an unbridgeable gulf…There are two life forces in the world: Jewish and Gentile…I do not believe that this primal difference between Gentile and Jew is reconcilable…” – Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, page 9.

    “You cannot be English Jews. We are a race, and only as a race can we perpetuate. Our mentality is of a Hebraic character, and differs from that of an Englishman. Enough subterfuges! Let us assert openly that we are International Jews.” – Gerald Soman, Chairman of the World Jewry Fellowship, in its official manifesto, January 1, 1935.

    “I am not an American of JEWISH faith. I am a JEW. I have been a JEW for a thousand years. Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a race.” – Rabbi Stephen Wise, N.Y. Herald-Tribune, June 13, 1938.

    “Let us recognize that we Jews are a distinct nationality of which every Jew, whatever his country, his station, or shade of belief, is necessarily a member.” – Louis Brandeis, U.S. Supreme Ct. Justice, Zionism, page 113.

    From an earlier article at SN: Holocaust activist Elie Wiesel, whose lies about his holocaust experiences seem to be legion, also claims that Jews are a superior race. “Everything about us is different,” Wiesel boasts. “Jews are ontologically exceptional.”
    “Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves.” — Menachem Begin – Israeli Prime Minister 1977-1983

    “We have a case of the Jew…a totally different species.” – Rabbi Mendel Schneerson
    “The body of a Jewish person,” Schneerson bragged, “is of a totally different quality from the body of members of all other nations of the world. Bodies of the Gentiles are in vain. An even greater difference is in regard to the soul…A non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness.”

    “Jewish blood is not the same as the blood of a (Gentile) goy.” – Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg

  21. HBT456 Aug 8,2014 10:17 AM

    http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/270740

    UMNO man, he is not threatened, but cuma nak main2 aja. There are many people like him, local atau foreign buat “curi tangkap gambar” for fun, and they dont know they have violated privacy law in Malaysia. Do us a favor, if there is case against him, UMNO can bail him out to show us UMNO adalah jaguh moden, bukan jaguh kampung.

  22. sudin Aug 7,2014 5:40 PM

    Salam Tun.

    The ikan yu of Singapura has definitely spread its multiple huge fangs to guan eng,
    who has given PAS Temerloh MP Nasrudin Hassan 24 hours to unreservedly and unconditionally withdraw the purported lies and apologise to him over Nasrudin’s comments on the seabed tunnel project.
    If Nasrudin failed to do so within 24 hours, guan eng will instruct his lawyers to take legal action for defamation against him for spreading slander and lies against him.

    After Anwar maniac’s numerous failed attempts to cause bankrupt to his opponents through the late Kapal Sink’s “see you in court” infamous threats, now guan eng is pursuing and applying kuan yu’s greatest weapon to leave behind opponents with only the underwear as the last remaining asset.

    The most familiar liar lawyers of DAP are at it again.

  23. HBT456 Aug 7,2014 5:15 PM

    Tanggang, yang “CURI” ambil video bogel tu tak kena?

  24. Tanggang Aug 7,2014 2:22 PM

    Salam Yg Bhg Tun,

    Didalam Malay Mail menyatakan “the Singaporean Albert Yam proclaimed ‘nuturist’ who participated in the Nude Sport Games Penang 2014 said that nude games are good to promote health.”

    Mereka mempromosi rakyat negara ini bahawa budaya bogel itu baik untuk kesihatan. Ini akan disokong oleh suku-suku mereka terutamanya HBT456. Dia akan menulis sekarang sudah tahun 2014 dan “People can do whatever they want. Jangan jadi katak bawah tempurung. It’s their choice as Malaysians”etc.

    Lim Guan Eng menyalahkan seorang renjer Taman Negara itu yang bersembunyi berdiam diri tekun menyaksikan orang2 bogel itu tanpa tindakan. Secara tidak langsung, Kerajaan Persekutuan dipersalahkan dan membenarkan ‘sport’ tersebut. Seterusnya HBT456 akan menulis didalam blog chedet and to the world renjer Kerajaan Persekutuan sex maniac kerana terlibat sama dengan orang2 bogel tersebut. Akhirnya dia akan menyalahkan UMNO/BN kerana “wasting tax payers money” dan mengajak rakyat supaya “to decide to vote BN or not in the next GE”.

    Salam Tun

  25. HBT456 Aug 7,2014 12:30 PM

    Malaysia Bagus, I think the function of Lobbyist and Corruptor is the same in any political parties no matter which country you are from. If nothing happened, everyone happy. If something happened, who has more votes (or veto) will form the ruling. In People’s Republic of China, they do not have general election like Malaysia, if nothing happened, everyone happy, if something bad happened, sama dengan Malaysia, USA, UK, Australia, NZ atau mana2 negara di dunia ini. MCA did very well in the past, why they did badly now? Is it because of DAP? Not only MCA, UMNO and other component parties like MIC, Gerakan and other major component parties in East also did badly and loose so much votes to DAP, PAS and PKR? The rest of the story, let BN and PR to score the points to win in next GE.

  26. Tun Perak Aug 7,2014 9:48 AM

    HBT456,

    1. You have said Islam is not ugly. Since Islam is not ugly, Islam does not cause the instability in every part of the world. It is the people that causes the instability. Ask Hj. Hadi Awang and Nik Aziz – why a some PAS or ex-PAS members joined the ISIS causes in Syria and Iraq and we know ISIS killed a number of innocence people.

    2. “Chinese” Bribery in Hong Kong ? – Kwoks brothers bribery case. “Chinese” bribery in Mainland China ? Watch this space ““China is an environment where petty corruption is common and tolerated,” said Daniel C.K. Chow, a law professor at Ohio State University.”
    Who said that ? Ask the Chinese Professor Daniel C.K. Chow. Prof. Chow hinted that bribery is in the blood of the chinese.

    Bribery in PKR ? Ask Anwar Ibrahim . He was jailed because of corruptions and not because of “sex related offence”. So what corruption is Mr. Anwar Ibrahim is talking about ? Ask Anwar Ibrahim.

    3. No need to ask Ka Chuan and Liow Tiong Lai . Both of them are trying to rebuild the race relation bridge that has been destroyed by DAP.

  27. HBT456 Aug 7,2014 5:47 AM

    Kenapa aku nak rasa malu, pashit aka dapshit? Aku bukan ahli politik, aku cuma seorang pengundi saja. It is up to pkr, umno and pas to decide the survival of kindex with the support from federal government, not selangorian voters. Our obligation is to vote. I remember singapore pm has allowed by election which was won by opposition after pap lost 60% vote in their ge. During time, many negative issues popped up, and pap lost. So many bad and unfortunate things issues in headline news, as malaysia pm, ds najib has to decide should snap election allow at this time of turbulence. If ds najib said no, then, umno bn and pkr pr members cant do anything but wait it out for the next ge. Ini bukan soal menang atau kalah. Ini adalah soal dasar ekonomi di bawah pimpinan pm najib.

  28. PAShit a.k.a. DAPshit Aug 7,2014 1:34 AM

    Salam Tun,

    Excerpt from the ‘janji tak ditepati’ fool HBT..”Winning a war, but I will be questioned, I rather loose.”
    What exactly did you mean to say fool?
    One thing I know for sure the “loose” thing iare some screws in your head.

    DAPshit

  29. PAShit a.k.a. DAPshit Aug 6,2014 1:20 PM

    Salam Tun,

    Haiya I really can not fathom this particular babbling, meaningless ramblings from this HBT person. Please keep your promise to never comment again here, remember?
    Lu tarak malu kah?

    DAPshit

  30. HBT456 Aug 6,2014 7:09 AM

    If a race cant maintain their ancestor roots in the country as stipulated in the federal constitution, then, it is no point to talk about politics. If politics is not stable, than dont talk about kongsi economy. Winning a war, but I will be questioned, I rather loose.

  31. HBT456 Aug 6,2014 6:40 AM

    Tun perak, islam is not ugly, so is other religions. I will never want to convert into islam because it creates so much instability in middle east, and malaysia,. Though chinese civil servants are seen corrupted in mainland, hk or taiwan, they can never be bribed or use hidden hand to get away. Did khalid ibrahim learn from the past? No, he does not. Mod denied they have no involvement with hamas, can we believe him? He said he did not, but umno did. Umno always complain they have not done enough for the bumi and malay. Government, land deals, judiciary, defense, bank negara, it, pdrm, glc, mas, putrajaya and many more are control by malay, and yet they said they have not achieve nep. If you choose to build more mosques to show islam supremacy, non muslim political parties need to think deeply before next ge campaign starts. Ka chuan, you decide…..

  32. Tun Perak Aug 6,2014 12:43 AM

    HBT456,

    1. Internet could do nothing significance to change Israel behaviour if internet is acting alone. In the last 24 hours, what had changed Israel stance in pursuing this war is the dead 64 IDF soldiers. Other than that, Israel do not care about others sufferings, be the sufferors has nothing to do with the war (civillian).

    2. HBT456, your idola – Sigmund Freud, who postulated the term libido is the key that led you getting a child out of wedlock, is one of the Jew that knows much about human and how to manipulate human. Israel took a calculated risk. When the data is clear that the collective sum of their risk would be more than the collective sum of their benefits, they withdraw and offered ceasefire. The decision that they made is to ensure there is no internal revolt within their small country.

    3. Should Hamas follow through the war, preventing IDF soldiers from escaping, there would be big debate in Israel on the benefits and the disadvantages of the war. But that was not Hamas strategy when they had the chance and Israel has avoided the catastrophy of high moral losses amongst their soldiers and civillians.

    4. You are right, Islam is not ugly. If you have sincere believe in that , you should learn or embrace Islam,with one condition – do not entertain those who mixed Islam with contemporary domestic politics and you will see how beautiful Islam is. Ask Felixia Yeap, she understood it clearly and of course she will advise you not to idolise Sigmund Freud.

    5. If you think UMNO or PAS will fall flat without Chinese support, I offer you a different view, where do you think Chinese would be if UMNO or PAS turn blind eyes towards the pleas on problem of Chinese community ? A Malay pharmacist who owned a Pharmacy told me, after the last General Election, her business has quadrupled the volume. The Malay starts to lose trust with the Chinese. Of course her Chinese dealers has told her of diminishing sales from Chinese pharmacy stores.

    6. I am not a racist, but I am trying to wake you from being tongue lashing racist. Think , and think , and you would find out, your racist comment would bite yourself at the end of the day. DAP politicians like Lim Guan Eng could punch their chauvinist racist chest because they only fights at a constituency which has majority Chinese voters. Pity the small scale DAP politicians because they have to sacrifice their position due to the chest pounding big scale DAP politicians like Lim Guan Eng and Lim Kit Siang.

    7. Khalid Ibrahim – he may pave the path for unity between PAS and UMNO. When that happened, landslide victory that imitates 1995 GE is ensured for Barisan Nasional. If that happen, he will be perceived as a genius :) and you will sing : Dont Cry for Me, Malaysia.

  33. mubarakchan Aug 5,2014 10:33 PM

    Tun

    For HBT678, Weibo or no weibo, JUSTICE IN THE INTERESTS OF ALL CONCERNED MUST PREVAIL WHEN IT COMES TO THE INTERNET, LIKE THE E-BOOK, E-FILMS, E-WHATEVER. MCA is just one component amongst many whilst the PR has imploded and the Republic of Singapore is no more 100% for the PAP Government but only 50% !

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! ALL MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  34. HBT456 Aug 5,2014 8:13 PM

    Tun perak, internet will shape these nembers to behave and be responsible to what they do. There is no way khalid ibrahim can stay as mb without his party support. Either he resigns, or jadi katak lompat to pas, atau umno. Islam is not ugly, but these poltical parties made islam so ugly to bailout their greed, debts and bankruptcy. Without the political support from non muslim, both pas and umno will fall flat.

  35. Tun Perak Aug 5,2014 5:33 PM

    Assalam,

    1. Internet as we know is a double-edge sword.

    2. What Facebook had done was to blunt the edge that pointed towards them. Everyone knows that Facebook is founded by Mark Zuckerberg , which houses a number of directors of Jewish origin.

    3. It is not difficult to control direct criticism . But ciriticism can be given indirectly by many other means, for example many thousands are still reading this blog daily.

    4. When one tried to control what others critically commented them means that he has no tolerance towards what others think about them, others pains and sufferings . They did this to deny the truth of what being spoken about them, so that they can continue their aggression towards the oppressed woman, children and the people of Gaza. This pointed – Israel is not a normal monster, but a monster which is rooted with highly and deeply insecure – Kiasu feelings – within themselves.

    6. Why dont Israel open up – to the feelings of the Gaza , Palestin ? It would be a more amicable solution than having a bloody war. For every 1 Israel soldier died, 20 ordinary palestinian died. In war, killing soldiers the IDF or Hamas is not wrong but killing the 1,800 civilians which did not participate in the fighting is wrong. More than 220 civillian vanished in MH17 and the pepetrator could be charged for criminal offence. So, could the IDF, Israel Ministry of Defence and its Prime Minister.

    7. So, the Israel – Palestinian conflict is hopeless……. maybe only by detonating a tactical nuke in the heart of Israel city will solve the problem – once and for all. Maybe …and maybe, so that they learn the lesson not to kill. Before someone that that sentence for granted, I have to remind – War can not be wronged but killing the innocence is always wrong.

  36. Malaysia Bagus Aug 5,2014 12:46 PM

    Salam Tun,

    “If the politics is not as dirty as pornography, we should not bother to put it to a censure” – a Bagan Datoh kampung guy

    Indeed we urgently need censorship, especially of the political kind – as per Tuan Mubarak’s description of the Opposition internet abuse – no matter how sad and unfortunate that such clear sounding advice would eventually ring and fall on deaf ears of SKMM. The govt seems to be perpetually shrouded with confusion, when fools cum Pemandus drivers, as similar to the cunning lingus of the court jesters are paid handsomely in billions via offshore banks to entertain the naked Emperor and the fat lady so that they both shall persist in self-idolatry legacy. Allow me to digress a bit, would not a cameo appearance in a Malaysian-produced Hollywood box-office movie suffice. No?

    The incorrigible snafu displays at the court of the Emperor’s Office is not unexpected though because our de facto Minister of Propaganda, Mr Liwat, is not unlike the red ant riding the frothing donkey’s ass and mouth of the information portfolio. Ambigaylance and/or ambivalence of attitude displayed by Info Ministry towards the Pakatan Riots’ viscous and continuous attacks on the ruling UMNO govt, even extending into the govt controlled NST and Asstro, is indicative of a cuckold Prime Minister Emperor.

    Yes, it’s also HD glaring true and pun-ny when sheer berry and cheeks collude collide, what can we expect to hear the bells ringing as, if not a muffed squeak? However, I’m not alluding to an LGBT imagery indulgence, but rather the treasonous disclosure and manipulation of our political-economic situation by the Minister of Propaganda, Mr Liwat himself, who having a ball at the international media orgies, always grabbing the media world attention to prostitute and pimp himself, announcing with savory details of his lusty ambitions if he ever got hold of our (Malaysian) behinds economy. I’m pretty sure Messrs. Rothschild, Soros, IMF and the gang too cant wait for their turn to cum into Malaysia.

    This perverted bloke, our defacto Propaganda Minister is so very unnaturally, di-luar-tabie-lucky to have UMNO/BN stooges in high places, his ex-staff and immoral coterie, all over him in awe of his China doll xxx-rated video clip performance and the numerous boys adventures that would even have hard-cored westerner like Mrs Clinton to grow dirty pink with flush and arousal, which would make her own husband’s small by comparison and harmless under-the-table indiscretions, a very pardonable white sin.

    Perhaps, the US can learn how to conquer China from the hidden angles and climbing positions that otherwise have escaped their dull unfriendly warring stratagem, with a little help from our very own homegrown anugerah-ly god gifted and talented Minister of Propaganda, whose brilliant chameleon performances, false flags and suave kijang moves have managed to categorically sodomize and fool all the PR people all the time.

    We have to give compliment and tabik spring whenever it is due. No doubt, that little red ant riding the donkey’s arse is one hell of an insex. And no wonder, the whole country is shaking with itch, as they say, “in (cyber) war there is no such thing as an innocent bystander”. Apa nak buat? Kalau gatal garu-lah …

  37. wajaperak Aug 5,2014 11:33 AM

    Assallammualaikum Tun.
    Mohon ruangan.

    Dear Mr Balance..
    What I meant is you ‘mix’ but not ‘match’..:)
    Socialize’s mean allowing other’s into our personal space.
    You did not allows any Tom,Dick and Harry much into your personal space..
    There is aloofness in the party..
    Summing it up as
    I AM LOST..
    IN THESE SEA OF PEOPLE..

    Thank you.
    Terima kasih Tun.

  38. balance Aug 5,2014 9:35 AM

    wajaperak August 4, 2014 at 5:57 PM | Permalink

    Well written! Good reading!
    Without knowing me personally you assumed I dont socialize much. Well you are wrong I am very active in my business and I get to meet all level of people and all type of people. In my line of work I need to know people (customers) intention and thinking (familiarise) before I can provide my services to them so i talk and listen a lot to/from people. Most of my customers end-up as friends and I have plenty. Due to the quantity of socializing I see, touch and recognise the the good, the bad and the ugly human factors and i see more opinionated (ego) human factors in this blog and i want to learn why. In my daily work I see more greed and selfishness. Learning and more learning just to know. Haha

  39. HBT456 Aug 5,2014 8:28 AM

    Fb is for the global community to share regardless who you are. It is not a political platform to induce disharmony across the global community, mubarak chan. The people censor dok tek is not americans, they are malaysians. Siapakah ada power macam ini?

  40. HBT456 Aug 5,2014 8:08 AM

    Hey, mubarak chan, tell mca members to fight for permit to operate weibo in kl lah. Twitter can, why weibo cannot? Weibo cannot because you dont read chinese? Fb is not twitter or weibo, pls get this fact right.

  41. mubarakchan Aug 5,2014 12:08 AM

    Tun

    In these days of obssesion with anti-terrorism, it is the terrorism by the Internet Terrorists which we must extirpate. Through recent years, all sorts of libel and slander have been perpetrated by these Internet Terrorists for want of the lack of evidence by them to accuse and to frame the unsullied reputations of innocents, the unwary and the weak. The Government of the day must stand up to protect all of us who have no power to counter against these Internet Terrorists who usually go for the jugular or with the intention of doing much damage in their spheres of operations.

    If the Government has censorship of films, books, etc in place, there is no reason why the Internet should not be censored.

    As it is the Facebook, a private organisation has already censored this Chedet Blog of its own accord. And the Facebook is supposed to be in the land of the free. Free in speech, free in everything ! The Facebook has crossed the Rubicon in the land of the free !

    At times like this, a smaller World, a greater congestion of peoples everywhere, the achievement of a decent livelihood is hard to come by.

    For instance, in our Malaysian Democracy, the BN Government pays an emolument to the Opposition MPs apart from the allowances, pensions, grants, cars, travel subsistenc, constituency expenses etc and their own Party perks. All tax-free as perks unlimited. If a DAP leader has been inaction by doing nothing but to strum the heart strings of the dissatisfied at every General Elections for over 48 years, his total tax free income at just RM5,000 per month from 1966 to 2014 amounts to RM 2.7 Millions basic tax free. The DAP leadership is not too stupid but paid handsomely by the BN to make our Malaysian Democracy complete. Hence, the mad rush by unqualified Opposition politicians to accuse all and sundry of unsubstantiated crimes through political chicaneery Malaysian style.

    This form of luscious Malaysian living is so profitable that complete families of 3 generations are in play all at the BN’s expense. No need to study hard. No need to toil. No need to do anything. No need to say nice things about the BN. And you have a damn good and well paid job of a LIFETIME. The best weapon to use to further one’s Malaysian political ambitions and money is the free use of the Internet to chop down the BN icons. All free and tons of money will arrive on the doorstep in due course. I recomment that 21 year old with a moustache can start. MALAYSIAN POLITICS WITH NO INTERNET CENSORSHIP IS BETTER THAN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY. And the best of all, NO NEED TO THINK. Just say so and so is bad. That’s all and you are guaranteed success = money !

    Does my description of political reality with the Opposition strikes a bell or many bells ?

    There are so many cogent reasons that the Internet must be censored. It should not be used as a tool or weapon by cowards who hide behind anonymity. There is a price to pay for every illegal act. JUSTICE MUST PREVAIL.

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! ALL MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  42. wajaperak Aug 4,2014 5:57 PM

    Assallammualaikum Tun.
    Saya mohon ruangan disini..

    [If thoughts are normal human function then why some dont get entangle with their thought]
    Mr Balance.
    I just want to quote a specialist who some time ago gave a talk about something to us.
    A Gynaecologist if I remembered correctly..
    He said..
    “It is not wrong to think about anything ( sleaze..smut,porn,sex with another married person,bestiality,so on and so forth ).
    “It is wrong when you do something about it”.
    I totally disagree with him because thought arrive’s like a train.
    That is why it is called train of thought’s.
    The repulsive idea of bestiality must not be allowed into our train of thought’s.
    The repulsive idea of enticing another man ( read : your brother ) wife must not be entertained..at all cost.
    What happened when the specialist did not frown upon is this ‘idea’s’ gain it own strength and momentum’.
    He claimed it just sit idle in the ‘memory bank’ = The mind Palace.
    What he did not realizes in the security wards of criminally insane,the criminal act commenced and nurtured by this train of thought’s.
    They lies underneath the very volatile surface of human mind.
    Our hand’s,finger’s and feet is govern by ‘what lay underneath’ our sub conscious mind.
    What is one mind thinking will surface when you poke him in the rib.
    The fella will respond in knee jerk manner ( melatah ) and what come outside?
    Oh mak kau?
    [(Swear word?)]
    Allahuakbar..
    Islam forbade the entertainment of filthy thought’s.
    It just simply worthless at best and at worst..
    YOU WILL END UP IN THE CRIMINALLY INSANE DOMAIN..

    [and some will kill because of thoughts]
    Mr Balance..clearly you do not socialize much..:)
    You are the company you keep!..
    What is the purpose and function of community?
    To rein the beast within..
    The people of the masses who agrees or disagree of a certain value.
    The agreement of the thougt’s and opinion by the concensus.
    Community practice ‘social obligation’ and ‘civic mindedness’.
    The less one involves in community practice the more outcast he or she become..:)

    [or some have less thoughts and live happily]
    This is so not true Mr Balance.
    If you study medicine and related field’s, you will realizes that the well off are the most less thought activated people and the number of them seeking treatment is the highest!..:)

    [while some have so many thoughts and live fighting with people on the left, right and centre?]
    My Muhammad Rasullulah s.a.w have been accused a lot worse.
    I share his sentiment and would like to be admitted as a brethren of this beautiful comradeship..
    THE BROTHERHOOD OF ROSE..
    Instead of the
    FRATERNITY OF THE STONE HEARTED and to some measure’s
    THE LEAGUE OF THE FOG AND NIGHT..
    Mr Balance..
    You need to socialize more..
    I socialize’s with the People Of The Mosque.
    To whom I may incensed them for whatever reason,
    Asks yourself these hard question..
    How long ago?
    How long?
    How long ago..
    You..
    Have frequented the mosque?

    Terima kasih Tun.

  43. HBT456 Aug 4,2014 12:34 PM

    sibotak, as public figure, sure got critics one. sikit2 merajuk dah nak sue, susah lah jika UMNO macam tu. it depends on how you manage what. see lah, cakap pasal azan, kini United Malay National Organization dah buat Police DIRAJA MALAYSIA, nak sue MALAYSIAN, treating us like nobody. Cuma nak tanya, jika UMNO sayang sangat agama Islam dan Melayu, ceraikan saja si kafir2 di BN saja.

  44. balance Aug 4,2014 11:16 AM

    wajaperak August 3, 2014 at 12:06 PM | Permalink

    Yes and no about writing in this blog that may disturb others. If anyone like to read or dont read we are not forcing them. When a person create or start a blog, then he or she should have basic understanding of freedom or free. In this subject Tun said that his blog been blocked many times and if Tun understand Internet and Freedom of choice then he should not feel bad about been blocked. Freedom of press and freedom of choice are very similar, read what you want to read, write what you have in mind and understand what you want to understand. Owners of blogs can block or unblock anyone or anything they like or dislike. Anyone can express their opinions and those that read can accept or reject these opinions. No bad feelings or harm if taken as an exchange. If one feel that they are bigger than others and their opinion must be taken seriously or their blogs or writings must not be block then that person suffer more. In the Internet if someone block you, you can go around them or hack them or just go to another site that willing to host you. This is the beauty of Internet or Freedom or Choice.
    When I say I want to learn and know then it means I have not formulated or cemented or confirmed an opinion yet or dont have a belief system yet or can never have one.
    If thoughts are normal human function then why some dont get entangle with their thoughts and some will kill because of thoughts or some have less thoughts and live happily while some have so many thoughts and live fighting with people on the left, right and centre?
    You say thinking outside of the box is modern ignorant then what and how would you call or descript faith ignorant?
    If I am misguided then how do you call or describe someone that is well guided.
    Again it is knowing or not knowing questions.
    The purpose of my writing is to show that freedom of choice is not wrong as people rejected authoritarianism long time ago including us Malaysian, that why we have MERDEKA.

  45. balance Aug 4,2014 8:47 AM

    HBT456 August 3, 2014 at 10:51 AM | Permalink

    With or without much money, I like to travel and experience the life of people near or far. The one thing I always see and feel everywhere is the “belief system”. It can be cultural or religious or political but those systems are very powerful influence to each type of people. If one can understand that all these system are there to control and mold the mind of people then we can become less political.
    To be free and have freedom one must know what is human fabrication and what is nature. Reading any holy books or motivation books will not make a person right or knowledgeable or true as each book will tell a different story to different people or interpreted differently by different person. That why we see war and fighting. Books are human fabrication and it will stay that way. One of the worst or wonderful human fabrications are the internet news or rumour mongering blogs or scam or advertisement. If one can separate the truth and non-truth or just read then KIV it than it is ok but if one cannot than self destruction will happen.

  46. sibotak Aug 3,2014 3:54 PM

    Tun ! Syabas UMNO
    Saya mula mendengar Harimau meraung di CIQ Johor

    Kenaikan Tol , VEP cukai Kenderaan Singapura memang Wajar dan Wajib
    Dilaksanakan dahulu kala dari mula Singapura memugut VEP levy dari Kenderaan Malayisa
    Saya berharap Kerajaan Malaysia TIDAK BERGANJAK
    maka akan Terselah Kelemahan UMNO

    Sudak Kelihatan Media Singapura begitu sibuk memantau kenaikan Tol ini
    bagi melemahkan Pendirian Kerajaan Malaysia
    Ia serupa Sept 11 , Penipuan Singapore Airline yg pada mulanya tidak mengaku mereka juga melalui ruang udara yg menahaskan MH17
    Setelah terserlah Kebenaran baru mereka akui dan minta maaf
    Adakah ini juga serupa Fitnah yg dilakukan terhadap Saddam Hussei, Iraq
    Muhammad Gaddafi Libya , Sept 11 , Afgan AlQaeda , Hamas Palestine, Osama bin Laden
    Jemaah Islamiah ,Somalia dan yg lain lain lagi
    Sekarang Russia telah menyangkal Fitnah Tuduhan Amerika mengeluarkan Bukti yg Tidak Nyata , Benar & Bernas terhadap tuduhan MH & serangan di Ukraine
    Ini semua adalah Permainan Politik dalam Media Politik

    Sekarang Media Singapura begitu sibuk tentang Kenaikan Tol di CIQ
    Tapi bila Kerajaan Singapura naikan apa pun jua tanpa hiraukan nasib Rakyat mereka Media mereka begitu Sunyi sepi

    Tambahan Bantahan pula dari DAP kutu kerabat PAP
    Adakah ini Parti yg perlu Bercalon sedangkan mereka
    Mengutamakan Kepentingan Jiran
    Dari membela Hak Nasib Rakyat Malaysia

    Salahkah Kerajaan Malaysia mengutip Tol sedangkan ia bermula dengan Kerajaan Singapura yg setelah Bertahun mereka Seorang memetik buah
    Malaysia hanya melihat menghidu bau

    Sekarang Malaysia ingin memetik buahnya
    Kerajaan Singapura Beraksi Menumbangkan Pokok tersebut

    Perhubungan Bliateral Mesti Berdua Hala
    Satu Pergi Satu Balik
    Bukan asik mereka Pergi Kita tak Balik Balik

    HBT 3/4 Serupa 3/4 Tank Minyak undang undang Singapura
    Yg melarang Hak Pembeli membeli minyak di Johor
    Juga Hak kita Penjual yg jual minyak
    Mana ada dalam Dunia Demokrasi Kerajaan melarang hak pembeli
    Kalau mereka nak bertanding juallah lagi murah , kasi service yg baik
    Nak beli minyak jiran pun kena Sekat macam duit Bapa dia pula
    APA MEREKA SAJA NAK KAYA

    Apa pula kerna merna 3/4 Tank & HBT 3/4 ?
    Apa saja aku ini , Sorry Sayang

  47. sibotak Aug 3,2014 1:33 PM

    The best form of Social Media is in Malaysia
    The Best the Fastest most Advance most Natural most Efficient most Economy

    Its the Mak Cik Mak Cik Gossip to Spread News
    Censor not Censored they go for it, They hit on anything even the strongest Iron Walls
    It spreads faster than SMS , EMAIL , Whatsup & many more
    Natural & more effective than Virus
    Above all They are Un Touchable No one can Sue nor Touch Them
    They are Powerful by Nature Need no Modifications nor Upgrading

  48. mubarakchan Aug 3,2014 1:30 PM

    Tun

    For HBT678 from the Ministry of Information, Singapore, who tried to brainwash our distinguished Bloggers here, Ying Luck is the creation of the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 21 failed Policies for Singapore via the purchase of Thaksin’s business at the top price of US1.3 Billions. (This was not a one off purchase because there were other tycoons who were paid top dollar for their nefarious activities in the Region by Singapore). The brilliant Lee Kuan Yew did not consider the option when political matters could get out of control. This supposedly smart and cunning act not only caused the deaths and injuries to countless men, women and children in an otherwise friendly and hospitable land of smiles, but the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew ended up with 2 coup d’tats on his face.

    IS UNCLE SAM HAPPY WITH SUCH DICEY AND UNWARRANTED MOVES BEHIND HIS BACK ? – disrupting an otherwise friendly, hospitable and solid country for the West . MALAYSIA BEWARE OF THE TPPA – a solid Singaporean creation. Vide. The spies pictured in colour in the UMNO owned New Straits Times, Streets Central Supplement Page 8, March 8 2014.

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! ALL MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  49. sibotak Aug 3,2014 1:18 PM

    The best form of Social Media is in Malaysia
    The Best the Fastest most Natural most Efficient most Economy

    Its the MakChik Mak Chik Gossip to Spread News
    Censor not Censored they go for it, They hit on anything even the strongest Iron Walls
    It spreads faster than SMS , EMAIL , Whatsup & many more
    Above Its Natural & more effective than Virus

  50. wajaperak Aug 3,2014 12:06 PM

    Assallammualaikum Tun.
    Saya mohon ruangan.
    Dear Mr Balance.
    Rightfully this must be done in our exchange of e mail.
    Rightfully other’s must not be disturbed by our side track of exchange..
    But maybe some few number’s can be benifeted by my show of stupidity..
    Here goes my 1.5 cent’s of opinion..
    [1.I want to learn or know where and how humans leading this world to]
    Instead of arguing more why don’t we agree on how human evolves..
    Our belief is from Adam..your’s?
    [2.I want to learn how religion destroy or heal the world]
    This have been the point of contention since Adam!
    How about we agree first on the need of some belief?
    [3.I want to know why people want so much power and money and continue to fight, kill, deal to make more]
    This have been detailed in Al Quran.Since you don’t want any reference from Al Quran,maybe you can compromise the citation from Imam Al Ghazali Ihya Ulumiddin?..:)
    [4.I want to know why humans cannot stop having thoughts]
    It is called function.Normal human function.
    The moment we ceased this function we are vegetable..
    Now Mr Balance another ‘misguided’ comprehension.
    Better illustrated in Malay.
    Orang-orang kafir musyrik marah kepada Rasullulah s.a.w kerana menghina tuhan-tuhan berhala mereka.”Muhamad (s.a.w) melarang penghinaan tetapi tuhan kami dimaki hamun?
    See the sory of my earlier Nabi Ibrahim a.s about the role of agent provocateur.
    Kafir musyrik juga keliru “Muhammad (s.a.w) melarang berbanyak tuhan tetapi dia memanggil Tuhan Langit dan Tuhan Bumi malah menamakanNya sebagai Ar Rahman dan Ar Rahim..apa-apa ni Muhammad (s.a.w).
    The explanation is most simple but yet this simplicity will escape their comprehension like the one you have seen before demonstrated in Tun blog by the modern Umm Jahal.
    If we agree, I can explains that the Maujud of the being is in question here.
    Their creator is created by themselves in contravene of the rightfull Creator which is not Maujud ( beyond physical touch ).Yet,very much in existence.
    Allah is the same Ar Rahman and Ar Rahim.”Whichever name yea invoke”..
    The Omnipresent.
    The Omnipotent.
    If you disagree then we can backtracked by
    “THE NAMING CONVENTION”.
    LIfe contention is forever and never end’s.
    We can always have peace when we agree of the mainstream convention.
    It is nice to have you as a moderate commentator.

    Terima kasih Tun.

  51. HBT456 Aug 3,2014 11:13 AM

    If union press for change of uniform, contohnya, pakai tudung, in mas, well, the vip behindv the union is declaring currency war to peace loving malaysians. Aku tukar nama bapamu, you suka ke?

  52. HBT456 Aug 3,2014 10:51 AM

    Balance, if you have money, go makan angin to learn about wars, people, religion and their traditions, you will find the answers you want. No money, you can makan angin in malaysia via own transport, use state roads, dont use highways, you will see for yourselves why these people are so happy though they are not rich. Now, with google earth, lagi jimat by suscribing internet services, zoom into any cities you like to know in the world, you will know the lifestyle there. The rest of the story, I will leave it for bn and pr to compete wisely.

    Wan azizah will be the best person to be the mb of selangor to save kindex, langat dam, allah issue before the next ge.

  53. balance Aug 3,2014 9:05 AM

    HBT456 August 3, 2014 at 6:00 AM | Permalink
    Ying luck is not and can never be Mother Teresa or Kwan Yin because she a politician. Yes she pull out and Yes she save Thailand and Yes she is one of those that started it too. Luckily she come to her senses.
    What do i want? Very good question but the answer is I dont care Malaysia is Islamic or Non-islamic. I dont care who can or cannot become PM of Malaysia. I dont care who is MB or this state of that state. I dont care if i am a nervous or serious comedian and I dont care if I am called all type of names.

    Some of the things I want:
    I want to learn or know where and how humans leading this world to.
    I want to learn how religion destroy or heal the world
    I want to know why people want so much power and money and continue to fight, kill, deal to make more.
    I want to know why humans cannot stop having thoughts.

  54. HBT456 Aug 3,2014 7:18 AM

    After knowing the truth, some leaders can do anything just to win without thinking the hardship of the people, even some of them can declare wars in middle east. As oic member, you cant stop this brutality of wars in the middle east, but you create so much disharmony in malaysian lives. The most horrendous leaders in the world are those leaders who have no guilt conscious in heart, or god. They are not god fearing, and they can do anything just to win wars by finishing those rivals in a brutal way. I never been to middle east, but I know the average muslim no longer want to be the country men there, they migrate to western world, the land of god. Nevertheless, when come to next ge, malaysians will vote for the next pm, or rulling party. But I believe, in the land of god, these immigrants will be shape as malaysian way of life. Their children will be our children, and thd federal constitution is here to stay for many years to come.

    God bless you, and may peace be with you in your next life.

  55. HBT456 Aug 3,2014 6:00 AM

    If you want to outsmart your rivals politically, do it in a gentleman way. Sekejap ketuanan melayu, sekejap ketuanan isma, sekejap ketuanan palestine, sekejap ketuanan bumiputra, sekejap ketuanan umnoputra, ketuanan hudud, maki lgbt, maki kaum cina, maki hinduism, maki christian, maki tuhan just to main2 sentimen rakyat.

    Even mat salleh think malaysia is an islamic country now, mahu ambil hati ah moi cina sini, willing to convert as muslim. What do you want now, balance? Islam dah diwajibkan sebagai agama rasmi supaya semua kaum2 di sini hormat agong dan sultan2 tanpa pilih kasih. Kini, nak menang undi, ko cari pasal dengan kaum2 lain di malaysia, di negara lain just to justify the project ic?

    Eypgt is a good case study, both horsi and the opposition leaders are the real losers.

  56. HBT456 Aug 3,2014 5:36 AM

    Grkumar, in politics, just like business, everyone is striving for survival just to outsmart their rivals. If you ask me politically who will I side when ask to choose china and japan, the answer will be china. Similarly, you will support ban on icc against morseen ali, a pakistani, for wearing glove to save gaza because of your name.

    Balance, if you said bush and blair are wicked to protect their country men, then you agree umno presidents are kind to protect palestinians on the land of pribumi? If you ask me now who will I side, of course I will side selangorians as I m the voter there after knowing the truth?

    Ying luck is mother teresa or kwan yin because she knew if she insisted to stay, ruling and opposition members will fight violently for survival that will cause more damage and lost of life.

  57. balance Aug 2,2014 6:18 PM

    wajaperak August 2, 2014 at 2:55 PM | Permalink

    The beauty of life is Living, Alive and Breathing
    Beautiful life is learning and knowing experiences
    Tasting, Seeing, Hearing, Smelling and Feelings are senses
    Love, Hate, Dislike, Like and etc are emotions
    Senses, emotions, thoughts or beauty of things/person are subjective so it is non reality. Periodic Table are human fabrication or creation. It is a table create to standardise communication even that we have 2 version of table. One day someone will come-up with another table and claim it is a better version. Dont be too sure it will not change or modify
    Until today scientists are still arguing about science because everyday there are new discoveries and everyday is new day or yesterday is not today or today is not the same as yesterday. Ha ha ha
    If knowing is taken as just knowing then life is peaceful
    If knowing is taken as knowledge to compare then life can become troublesome
    If knowing is taken as beneficial knowledge then life can be wealthy, profitable, charitable and BEAUTIFUL.
    Beautiful life can be mean many things, it is up to the person to see and feel. We dont need to compare and agree, Just only need to know then stop.
    If life is not beautiful, doctors will not have patients and hospital will dont have doctors.
    If life is not beautiful then why people need cure for diseases (some even try to be immortal ha ha ha )
    Nice talking (exchanging) with you. Have a good day and please share your knowings

  58. wajaperak Aug 2,2014 2:55 PM

    Assallammualaikum Tun.
    Saya mohon ruangan.

    [Life can be very beautiful if dont take thoughts as truth]
    What is life actually Mr Balance?
    There again.
    We can disputed what life is,beautiful is..so on and so forth.
    So..the international community need to agree to something.
    We need to agree to certain convention like Periodic Table.
    The periodic table is a tabular arrangement of the chemical elements, organized on the basis of their atomic numbers (numbers of protons in the nucleus), electron configurations , and recurring chemical properties. Elements are presented in order of increasing atomic number, which is typically listed with the chemical symbol in each box. The standard form of the table consists of a grid of elements laid out in 18 columns and 7 rows, with a double row of elements below that. The table can also be deconstructed into four rectangular blocks: the s-block to the left, the p-block to the right, the d-block in the middle, and the f-block below that.

    The ‘main particle’ here is chemical element.
    What about ‘health element’?
    What about ‘economic element’?
    What about ‘religious element’?
    So.
    One need to agree to a convention first where everybody agree’s.This is where principal,rule,regulation and law is formulated.Agreed by the mainstream communities.
    Read the mainstream.
    Consequently it was commenced by the naming convention.
    How the element is defined.
    Now.The definition of ignorance.

    Nama abu jahal tu indah, gelaran Allah pada dia abu jahal, bapa kejahilan kerana sifat nya tak mahu menerima kebenaran yg di bawa oleh anak saudaranya.

    My Rasullulah s.a.w did not call his uncle Abu Jahal.It is Allah who defined him as so.
    Understandbly Abu Jahal is most upset by this nickname.
    He called my Rasullulah s.a.w as ‘angkuh and sombong’ by this naming convention.
    My Rasullulah s.a.w could make him happy by not calling his uncle as so but Muhammad s.a.w cannot go against Allah Will and Commandment.
    Here in Tun blog too there is Abu Jahal and Umm Jahal.
    Instead of thanking muslimin who pointed this so,they were wrathed by these modern ignorant..
    Mr Balance.
    Life contention will continues among this world and the people who populated them.
    Peace come when we are willing to concede.
    The judge appointed and the will of people who are involves is not deep seated and deep rooted by hatred.

    CONSIDER THIS MR BALANCE.

    Terima kasih Tun.

  59. grkumar Aug 2,2014 2:30 PM

    HBT 456 I am unsure as to what you refer to in your post here which says amongst other things

    “Grkumar, I am in your field too. But the way you wrote only prove one point, that is you cant penetrate domestic small market, or the western world. I believe, you can never penetrate india market though you are indian by race. You cant do it does not mean that other people cant do it. If the world leaders have shallow mind like you, I believe they will put us in cold war.”

    First things first, what field are you in that I am in too? I think you have missed the point by suggesting I can’t penetrate the domestic or western market.

    The domestic and western markets from which I operate are at a level which does not include writing in blogs unless it is part of a wider media campaign.

    I enjoy this space in my own time especially the Che Det blog because I do have an interest in the politics of Malaysia having spent a part of my youth there.

    Secondly as director of a media company and a former producer and trainer of one of the largest and the most diverse multi ethnic multi media organizations in Australia I do have some input into any media space I chose to apply my skills to. And not always do I need to be invited into a market to do so. I am able to apply the same science and technology available in a discrete and stealthy way as most of the western media companies do.

    The media in most western and east European countries are controlled by their governments. The theory is that they are “free to express themselves”. In practice they are not. If they were then Ronald Reagan’s and Margaret Thatchers invitation only press conferences which even Helen Thomas White House veteran was barred from by Reagan would not still exist as a practice.

    Neither would the anti Israeli voices in the west be denied print and electronic media space even in Saudi controlled media (News Corp is owned by Rupert Murdoch and Prince Talal of the Saudi Royal Family in a complex shareholding structure of the company).

    Self censorship is also evident in the western media. Reuters placed this story on their wire but very few of the western media put it to print.

    “A recent survey found 52 percent of eastern Germans believe the free market economy is “unsuitable” and 43 percent said they wanted socialism rather than capitalism,”

    In Germany they have laws today which jails people for saying things Jews consider to be anti semitic. How convenient. In Australia former Indonesian president Bambang Susilo Yudiono has demanded that Australia release the details of top government people who bribed their way to securing currency printing contracts from Indonesia (and much of the world) and other countries. A Supreme Court judge in Australia has placed a suppression order on the information.

    The Mossad exterminated (for want of a better word) a young Australian Jew who went to serve in Israel. Prisoner X as he became known fudged a Mossad operation and was kidnapped and put in solitary confinement in an Israeli prison.

    His condition in that prison was extreme. They say he committed suicide even though it was a 24 hour round the clock watch cell. They would watch him go to the toilet via high definition cctv. But when he “hanged himself” the Mossad was not watching.

    Some sectors of the local Jewish community wanted answers. Israel put a similar condition on anyone talking to the media about it. Australia followed suit. There was a mini documentary by the ABC on this story and it got shelved. The point I make is that censorship exists everywhere. But the west do not want us their minions to exercise it unless it is in their favour.

    The Tuns posting on censorship demands a multi dimensional response which I arrived at in part (it would be too long otherwise to dissect what he suggests and to respond to each element of it).

    The very point I have made you appear not to understand. We can penetrate the western media except for the mindset of our leaders. They are still trapped in that era whereby they believe they are unable to because western “technology” is better or more overwhelming than ours as it may be the case about our capabilities. And you demonstrate that point about the mindset vividly. I don’t think the Tun took that approach.

    Another point I made was about accessing the western space and media in order that we are able to then shape what they say t suit our own perspectives rather than to cut and paste what their mainstream news agencies like Reuters, News Limited and others feed us with. These items are then copyrighted so that it (information) becomes their property and we have no rights to deal with it.

    My point is that we can. But for that we need the talent, we need proper and secular (not in the religious sense) pool of talent to deal with such situations. By putting forth what we can ourselves produce we will eventually in an indirect way censor the so called “alternative” and external media.

  60. balance Aug 2,2014 2:19 PM

    HBT456 August 2, 2014 at 9:08 AM | Permalink

    100% bush and blair are not smart man. They are surely 100% evil, greedy, unpleasant and power crazy man or just plain unwise man.

    Smart people are people like Mother Teresa, people like them heal the world.

  61. balance Aug 2,2014 10:28 AM

    Tun,

    Life infinity options
    You censored people, people can censor you too
    You veto someone, someone else will veto you
    People hate you, you have a choice not to hate people
    You smart, someone else clever
    People are selfish, you can choose not to be selfish
    You want privacy, dont take a public position
    You like nasi lemak, others like nasi kandar
    You like Proton, he/she likes Toyota

    Life can be very beautiful if dont take thoughts as truth.
    Space (as boundless three-dimensional) is everywhere, everything and a reality.
    Without space we cannot insert or enhance things
    Lossing can be winning

  62. HBT456 Aug 2,2014 9:08 AM

    Cold wars have ended in middle east, but arab spring erupted in 2010 has brought down mubarak horsi 30 years old regime in 18 days and spread over to many middle east country. President susilo bambang talked about arab spring, and he made the right choice for not contesting. Even singapore mentor made way for the young leadership to take over.
    The ban of internet will give way for reformers to become arab spring heroes in malaysia history before the next general election. Wise state man know when to go, for eg. George bush, tony blair in the western countries. Even pm thai ying luck, ex pm of japan, ex president of south korea, ex premier and ex president of pr china chosen step down to ensure smooth transition.

  63. Malaysia Bagus Aug 2,2014 9:00 AM

    Salam Tun,

    CENSORING THE INTERNET.

    (I)
    There cannot be freedom without responsibility.
    Nothing rocket science about this statement. It’s called Freedom of No Choice, or Islam.
    Otherwise, we all should embrace Hedonism as a religion.
    We want to enjoy freedom. Therefore, we cant eat the cake and have it still.
    Freedom minus responsibility is anarchy.
    Freedom to spread hatred on Facebook and Twitter like what the RedBeanArmy dung.
    Freedom to voice acting the Zionists and misinform like the Malaysian Bar Bark Council.
    Freedom to incite racial trouble via Maoist communist propaganda ala-DAPigs
    Freedom to allow political idiots to rally and demonstrate their brain farts.

    (II)
    Those who control paper currency, the fiat money, the House of Rothschild, they will ultimately control the internet.
    Tun Mahathir will have to think of an authentic way to circumvent their control.
    The self-destructive so-called Muslims and their leaders are gullible as proven time and again. They endlessly fight and kill for Israel.
    They might as well call themselves “Pakatan Rothschild”.
    The PR that we have now in Malaysia is one of its network of shadow governments in the making. Like in the Ukraine. Like in the UMNO lama.
    We have to free ourselves from this satanic Rothschild influence first.
    Otherwise, we will come back to where we started off.
    If you cannot identify your enemies, you are doomed to imitate them.

    I’m pleased to share this article with Chedet bloggers : http://www.slideshare.net/Malaysia_Politics/timeline-of-the-rothschild-family

  64. balance Aug 2,2014 8:33 AM

    Tun,

    With or without Internet, there will always be the good, the bad and the ugly. Censoring or no censoring there always be people with different opinions and intentions. There is no such thing as good system or bad system as all systems will always just be systems, it is human intention that fabricate or mold those systems into whatever it can become. If a person with your abilities cannot see and understand that all man-made things on earth will always stay non-reality and can be taken, seen and feel in whatever ways a person want to see and understand then it is proof that wisdom is not knowledge or IQ. Just use the internet the way anyone want to use it and let others decide what and how they use it. If there are 2 billion people on earth then there are 2 billion opinion and 2 billion people that say their thoughts are right or the best of the best. If want to argue and debate then there will be no time to sleep, eat and drink.
    The power of NOW, the understanding of “all things must change” and all things are “just human’s mind fabrications” are small understanding to live in peace. Your current thoughts are the proof that people change and thoughts change. If a person thinks that whatever his/her knowings are truth or facts and hold-on tightly to it then that person must be suffering terribly and must truly examine himself or herself internally. Simple things to watch are those so called professional medical experts also change their so called professional views or one group of experts say eating eggs are bad for health and other group will say eggs are good. So what s right or wrong?
    Another angle to look at things, with or without Internet pornography or pre-internet era, rape or sexual crime, cheating and decaying public morality happens, it is because of Internet we now can know more where and how it happen. The olden days we are restricted more to local news but now we have the freedom of choice to know more what’s happening in/at other parts of the world. Because of our wider coverage we think crime increases which may not be true.

  65. HBT456 Aug 2,2014 4:33 AM

    Grkumar, I am in your field too. But the way you wrote only prove one point, that is you cant penetrate domestic small market, or the western world. I believe, you can never penetrate india market though you are indian by race. You cant do it does not mean that other people cant do it. If the world leaders have shallow mind like you, I believe they will put us in cold war.

  66. PakCik Aug 1,2014 11:18 PM

    Salam Tun and fellow bloggers,

    I fully agree with Tun that Malaysia should control the internet…it’s damaging to our people.

  67. fbm_ Aug 1,2014 10:37 PM

    Assalamualaikum w.b.t. Tun,

    1. It is important for Malaysia to have a filter. Internet censorship should be done in Malaysia carefully and in a ‘transparent’ way. The agency responsible should openly highlight what they censor and what they not.

    2. The influx of unfiltered hedonistic and porn information are not good for Malaysians.

    3. Such filter has already been implemented in the UK. Their internet service providers give options to the customers to choose if they want to have a porn filter or not. For us, we can just implement it for all, unless they choose not to. For Malaysians, it surely will contest their morality if they wish to choose not to install the porn filter.

    4. I am opposing any other type of filters. Any other type of filters will lead to a great concern on power abuse. Let Malaysians learn how to use their freedom of expression, let the police do their jobs on those who have/will crossed the line. Let us not be the North Korea nor the US.

    Selamat hari raya, maaf zahir dan batin.

    Best regards,
    fbm

  68. grkumar Aug 1,2014 8:12 PM

    There is ample justification for censoring the so called “alternative media”. It is part of their own vocabulary in the interpretation and dialogue of what constitutes democracy and freedom of speech.

    Lim Kit Siang, the Malaysian Bar, the Nutgraph, Malaysia Kini, the Malaysian Insider are all guilty of censorship. So too with the Malay Mail and the Star. They engage in overt and blatant censorship of the views of others that are divergent to that of their own and their political views.

    In doing what they do they justify and practice censorship. In so doing they place those of us who believe in freedom of expression providing it is reasonable, the right to freely express our views.

  69. grkumar Aug 1,2014 7:59 PM

    Firstly there is no absolute freedom of expression which supports the western liberal myth of “freedom of speech, expression and freedom of the press”. It does not exist in the constitution. It does not exist in reality. T

    here are many subtle and not so subtle ways of censoring or limiting access to information, freedom of expression or distributing the same. The first and most common of these you have already alluded to here.

    A case in point. Not three years ago, the Palestinians also decided to get on the bandwagon to foster regime change in the middle east. They too decided like many others it was time for change and tried to usher in a Palestinian spring within the boundaries of the occupied territories and the state of Israel.

    The Palestinians garnered over 350,000 supporters within a matter of 12 hours and the numbers began to grow. Marc Zuckerberg himself ordered the social media organization of which he is head to bring down the Palestinian network and close down their accounts. The rest as they say is history. To suggest this is a conspiracy theory is to insult the intelligence of all of us who know that conspiracies in this regard do exist.

    My own personal background as a technical and executive producer in the media for 4 decades has allowed me to go where others can’t. There is an outrageously low quality copy cat coterie of so called ‘alternative media’ in Malaysia and Thailand financed and directed by the Dutch, French, Germans, English and Americans (via Australian universities and media organizations as the ABC). They use local stooges who believe they are better than the rest because they are “accepted” by these forces. A bit like Rose Chan was to the British in her day.

    The tragedy of our post colonial existence is that we have paid lip service to development focusing instead on factories and professionals without the voice and means to take to our villages the information we should have in order to reinforce our own values whilst equipping our people to cope with the modern world without losing their identity.

    As Lee Kuan Yew rightly said “culture is ballast for our people in a changing world”. A frightening number of urban Malays appear so easily swayed these days towards the cheap imported plastic culture of absolute freedoms whereby their most base senses and their latent demons are teased out of them via the internet. This is because they have been swamped by this imported culture where restrictions to the kind of material available do not exist. Where restrictions exist there is technology to overcome them.

    What is needed is a strong corps of intelligent and experienced media people with a focus and commitment to nation building through reinforcing core cultural values. The talent exists out there but the willingness to dip ones hand into ones pocket to take that risk isn’t. For this to occur there has to be cogent and coherent policy which does not exist at government levels.

    Instead we have the likes of the Vincent Tan financed trash that is peddled out there as fearless reporting and journalism. It beggars belief that in this day and age a nation that once had English as its first language can produce and tolerate if not wholly embrace such low quality nonsense of sensationalism at its lowest as that produced by some of what is peddled as not just the alternative media but also its mainstream.

    The technology exists in the east, India for instance where the writer recently secured the services of hackers in an experiment to exploit glitches in various systems in order to obtain information in much the same way Rupert Murdoch gets his information for his tabloids. It was testing the boundaries but certainly not novel anymore. One upmanship and chutzpah is what’s required to get ahead and keep abreast of the pack.

    There is more. What is needed is the courage, the foresight and the enterprise amongst those who are likeminded and see the necessity to advance your point in this regard. Someone has to grab the initiative. Governments, especially serving government’s are not motivated enough to initiate any such move. Only those with vision and hungry enough can if they only will.

    As the late Mrs. Gandhi once posited at the north south dialogue, the greatest sanctions against us is the denial of the media of nations in the southern hemisphere (3rd world) to access information available freely to western media sources. She was not being subtle about it.

    Asian journalists find it hard to get a ticket or invite to major political media events. Ronald Reagan pioneered the selective invitation of inviting only those who agreed with him leaving out others however credible their reporting histories were. The rest of the world followed. It need not be a barrier anymore.

    We need a paradigm shift in reporting and reporting styles and in media and information design generally that begins with choking the so called “alternative mediums” and vehicles that carry information. We should once more look east to Chinese servers and those of the Russian federation. Seeking alternatives and safe harbours is what we do not do.

    But we first need to meet the challenge of producing quality men and women of the media. What Malaysia has at present is mediocrity in abundance in this sector.

    Putting a team together is never the problem. Finding the backers is. Can we both rise to that challenge Tun?

  70. kalam putih Aug 1,2014 6:48 PM

    Salam Tun,

    Pertubuhan Bangsa-bangsa Bersatu (PBB), Amerika Syarikat dan Negara-negara Eropah adalah rakan sekongkol Rejim Zionis-Israel. Negara haram Israel wujud di tanah suci Palestin adalah hasil perancangan British-PBB-Amerika Syarikat.

    Sandirwara apa lagi yang perlu mereka lakukan untuk membuktikan bahawa mereka adalah rakan sekongkol Rejim Zionis-Israel. Persidangan dan Perjanjian SAMPAH! apa lagi yang perlu mereka anjurkan untuk menunjukkan tanduk iblis yang terpacak di kepala mereka.

    Artikel Penuh :

    http://kalamputihmenuliss.blogspot.com/2014/07/gaza-diratah-rejim-zionis-israel-sikap.html

  71. zahar Aug 1,2014 6:47 PM

    interNIC & ICANN/IANA etc globally control by the American…you know who…, government can only block/filter the gateway. Government action do not require to declare to public for their consent….either the government do it or just forget it.

    China, India and many other countries have taken similar action in the past….why not we?

    maybe i have the solution…?

  72. HBT456 Aug 1,2014 5:55 PM

    27. I will never be a muslim, but I wont feel angry if anyone wants to be muslim.

    28. It is their choice as malaysians.

    29. It is not ‘hak istemewa’ for muslim or non muslim to get elected in the government.

    30. Fiat money is about making money that can sustain the world and domestic economy.

    31. Wawasan 2020 is to make malaysia a developed industrialization economy similar to that of japan.

    32. It is not about which religion or race is more superior.

    33. I will never want to be a politician, but I wont stop any malaysians to run for the pm office to make malaysia a better place to live.

    34. Aku pun rasa tired macam blogger Tired, dah tiba masa to retire from chedet blog.

    All the best to tok det.

  73. sibotak Aug 1,2014 5:52 PM

    LOOK INTO THE VERY EYES OF YOUR CHILDREN WITH KALIMAH ALLAH
    HOLD THE LINE , STAY WITH THE LEADER , GET UNITED
    YOU STUPID BUNCH OF MUSLIMS

    BURN YR OWN HOME NOT UNITED STATES NOR ISRAEL FLAGS
    IF YOU NEVER ATTEMPT TO GET UNITED

  74. sibotak Aug 1,2014 5:45 PM

    Why Blame The JEWS ,THE UNITED STATES
    WHEN MUSLIMS ARE NOT UNITED
    KILLIN EACH OTHER SLANTERING KALLIMAH ALLAH
    DISREGARED BABIES , CHIDREN ,WOMEN ,ELDERLY
    THEY SHOULD SIT , TALK , LISTEN TO EACH OTHER
    LOOK INTO THEIR CHILDREN EYE WITH KALLIMAH ALLAH
    FXXK FXXK FXXK THESE BUNCH OF MUSLIMS
    AS IF THEY GO NO BRAINS
    I WOULD SAY DONKEYS ,CAMELS ARE SMARTER THAN THE ARABS

    BLAME THE US , ISRAEL FOR DIVIDING THE MUSLIMS
    WHY NOT BLAME FIRST YRSELF DIVIDING YR TRUE SELF
    PALESTINE
    WHY LEAN ON UN , US
    WHEN THEY HAVE REPEATEDLY BETRAYED THE ARABS , THE MUSLIM WORLD

    THESE ARE THE VERY CAUSE WHEN THE MUSLIM WORLD HAS NO LEADER
    AS LIKE
    THE KAFIRUN HAS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THEIR LEADER
    THIS THE VERY CAUSE OF WHAT HAPPEN TO MUSLIM WORLD
    EVERY MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS WAITING FOR THEIR TIME
    TO BE ATTACK ONE BY ONE , NATION BY NATION

  75. HBT456 Aug 1,2014 5:21 PM

    13. If tok det wants internet to be censored, tok det will be trapped by anwar ibrahim, pkr, pas and dap.

    14. The forming of 3 poltical parties into pakatan rakyat is to win enough votes to change the seatings in putrajaya after 1998 crisis.

    15. Even if pakatan wins in next ge, they will do what bn has been doing.

    16. All systems failed.

    17. System failed because of one wrong decision.

    18. Mistake is not about who was right, or who was wrong.

    19. It is about who learned from it.

    20. Even if pakatan rakyat becomes the ruling government, they cant do much to change.

    21. They only change bn ministers to pr ministers only.

    22. Are they as capable as bn?

    23. I doubt so

    24. Dah 6 tahun blogging kat sini, faham dan tahu baca style tok det in administrating the government sebagai pengundi.

    25. At last, I understand why 98 crisis was triggered.

    26. I learned, and I wont make the same mistake again.

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