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1. I am very annoyed by the apparent exclusion of Malaysia from the investigation of MH 17.

2. The aircraft belongs to Malaysia and the pilots, staff and quite a number of the passengers were Malaysians. Yet it seems that Malaysia is only grudgingly permitted to participate in the examination of the wreck recovered. And it is not even brought back to Malaysia.

3. Granted the highest number of the passengers who lost their lives were Dutch. But under what law is the aircraft the property of the Dutch?

4. The black box was recovered but although it was handed to Malaysian authorities, the box was surrended to the Dutch and the British.

5. As far as I know the black box contains tape or electronic recording of the conversations and sounds some minutes before the crash. Can it be that Malaysians have no capacity to hear the records even? Are only the Dutch and the British capable of doing this?

6. Malaysia seems unduly grateful being allowed to participate in examining the wreckage in Holland. What is there to be grateful for?

7. As to the cause of the crash, is there something to hide? Lets fire a missile at an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle. Is it true that a missile fired from the ground leaves no trail of smoke? I have been looking at the war in Syria and against the IS. Every time a missile is fired, there would be a blast of smoke and flames and a lot of noise also. But it seems no one saw the missile being fired, or the smoke trails. Maybe this is a new silent, trail-less Russian missile.

8. The U.S knew that it was a Russian missile immediately after the news of MH 17 being brought down. How did they identify the missile so quickly, even who fired etc.?

9. I remember when a U.S warship fired a missile which brought down an Iranian passenger plane. Was it mistaken identity? Or was it deliberate disregard for non-U.S lives?

10. Now on the assumption that a Russian missile was used to down MH 17, the U.S and Europe have applied sanctions against Russia. NATO seems bent on going to war against Russia.

11. The assassination of an Archduke launched the First World War which killed millions. Any little incident is enough for Europe and America to go on a killing spree.

12. And by the way where is MH 370?? Has it been pulverised into nothing as happened to the aircrafts which crashed into the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania? They left no debris at all.

13. As a Malaysian I demand that the wreckage of MH 17 be brought back to Malaysia as a matter of right. Malaysians should examine it in full view of the people. After all it is Malaysia which is being sued by the relatives of the victims.

62 thoughts on “MH 17

  1. sibotak Dec 18,2014 4:09 AM

    JUST MY OPINION
    ITS NOT JUST MANAGEMENT OF MALAYSIA AIRLINE
    ITS A LOT MORE THAT REFLECTS THE FAILURE OF UMNO NOW
    THE DESIGN OF KLIA IS VERY MUCH DISORGANISE
    IT REFLECTS THE FAILURE OF THE GOVT

    UMNO NEEDS TO WAKE UP
    UMNO MUST STAND TALL & PROUD

    NAJIB YOU ARE THE KEY PLAYER
    PLEASING THE PEOPLE THE OPPOSITION DOES NOT HELPS THE NATION
    BEING SANTA CLAUS IN MANY MEANS WILL BANKRUPT THE GOVT
    WHEN THE GOVT BANKRUPT ITS AN INVITATION FOR INVASION

    AT THE MOMENT I LIKE THE NEW PRESIDENT JOKOWI
    HE HAS THE ANSWER FOR INDONESIA
    HE DID NOT TALK MUCH OF FIGHTING THE CORRUPTION
    AS ONE WHO DO SO IS THE ONE WHO WILL BE MUCH CORRUPTED

    HE TALKS OF SOLVING THE SUBSIDIES FUEL ARE NOT FOR CARS
    BUT TO INFRASTRUCTURE THE ECONOMY
    MALAYSIA GIVES SUBSIDES FOR FUEL BUT THE PEOPLE TAKES IT FOR GRANTED
    ONE HOUSE MANY HAVE FEW CARS

    GOVT IMPLEMENT LAWS
    BUT UNABLE TO DELIVER THE LAW THEY IMPLEMENTED
    ITS ALL OF OK TIDAK APA MENTALITY

  2. anti-jibaok Dec 18,2014 12:40 AM

    In reply to.., ‘Tanggang’..,

    With regard to your thanks.., you are most welcome.

    What I had said earlier is something that is not impossible to happen to our beloved country Malaysia.., such as the loss of economic prosperity, religious cum racial tension & disharmony, immense national instability coupled with loss of respect, reputation and dignity.., given the situation that those external insidious forces are hell-bent who want to see Malaysia collapse, so that they can totally ‘dismantle’ our nation to be left helpless and only to be further ravaged.

    Let us remind ourselves that we are a nation of great diversity amongst our people. Should we allow external insidious forces to interfere and meddle with our internal affairs, then rest-assured that our nation may turn into be a powder-keg for immense instability, disharmony and disaster.

    Let us just observe what those insidious powers had done to Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and now what they are trying so hard to destroy Syria. Let us not also forget that in their evil and despicable agenda, those scoundrels want to totally eliminate Iran and to further destabilize Pakistan.

    And.., let us also recall what Dr. Mahathir had once before said in his famous (OIC) opening speech quite some time ago, as per these video URLs below:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PJ9u8h3Gzw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck2J9mtRhrw

    Dr. Mahathir had boldly and blatantly said that – “…. the Jews rule this world by proxy.., they get others to fight and die for them…”

    Surely, Dr. Mahathir did not utter those words for mere jest or to gain popularity or perhaps even to bring about undesired ill-repute for himself. Please note that Dr. Mahathir did not use the word the ‘Zionists’ but he specifically had used the word, the ‘Jews’..! This may sound to some quarters as somewhat being a rather racist and anti-Semitic statement. However, surely Dr. Mahathir has his valid reason for specifically using such a word.

    And today, we can clearly observe that those insidious powers are now apparently using the Muslims against the Muslims to fight and die for them. Al-Qaeda, the Free-Syrian Army, ISIS and other Muslim militants are being used to fight against other Muslims so that they can die for those Zionist scoundrels. How so bizarre but convenient it seems. Also, the Kurdish (Sunni Muslims) are now also fighting the ‘Islamic State’ or ISIS. The Hezbollah are also getting involved in Syria against other Islamic Militants. Why are the Muslims not joining and combining forces to fight those Zionist scoundrels in helping for the Palestinian cause..? What exactly is going on between the Muslims..!? Why are all these situation happening..?

    Maybe Dr. Mahathir was not so incorrect to use the word i.e.., the ‘Jews’. Why not we also observe this full-blooded Jew (turned Orthodox-Christian) has to say about the Jews (i.e. his own kind), as per this video URL, below:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k68DXCmJ7Jk (When Jews Rule The World)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73USnJPxi8 (Will Israel be the next World Power..?)

    Thus, if Jews apparently have now ruled the world (by proxies).., and that Zionist-Israel is about be the next World Power, then surely many fools and lackeys could be well waiting in line to serve their new World-Master.., perhaps some of those fools within this (i.e. that ‘Little Israel’ of South East Asia) region and even some fools (Zionist-Christian Evangelicals) within our nation, as exposed by this ex-DAP (Malay) strongman, as per these video URLs, below:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2RwWKiJSVw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99wzR0nFtY

    So, let us not be complacent and naive. Our beloved country Malaysia may turn into another Iraq, Libya or Syria. It is not impossible that Malay-Muslims from UMNO to butcher Malay-Muslims from PAS or Pakatan Rakyat and vice-versa.., Na’uzubillah minzaliq…! Muslims in Iraq, Libya and Syria have done just that to each other due to some reasons too complicated for all to understand. In our local scenario, staunch PAS Muslims would rather befriend those infidels (Zionist Christian Evangelicals) from DAP rather than coming to terms with the UMNO Malay-Muslims. That is an undeniable reality. Why so..?

    Those external insidious forces are surely very much aware of this unsettling situation in our country. Don’t you think that they will take advantage of such a situation to their benefit and to galvanize their effort in this region to become the next World Power..? Who then will be their proxies in Malaysia to fight and die for them.., huh..? Most of the time, all it takes is money to get the job done. And.., those insidious powers have such plenty, plenty of money all over the world..! Is that not so..? Is money not a great motivator for many people to perform even the most wretched of things..? As a point to ponder, from where did ISIS (that bogus ‘Islamic State’ militant) getting most of their money and weapons hardware, to do their butchering and beheading of fellow Muslims in Iraq..?

    Who knows, when the price is right, a lot of ‘butchering’ even between Muslims in Malaysia may occur, if those external insidious forces will shower humungous sums of money and also throw-in certain ‘hardwares’ to incite further tension and instability. As mentioned earlier, it has happened in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. Are we too confident that it can never happen to our beloved ‘Tanah Tumpah Darah’.., Malaysia..!? Are we to allow ourselves to be so complacent and naïve..?

    These are very dangerous and challenging times. As far as I am concerned, I am only sharing my thoughts for our future generations.., however thought-provoking it may be. Thus, we can only ‘ikhtiar’ and act upon it the best we can.., the rest we can sincerely supplicate and leave it to the will of Allah SWT.

    Wassalam.

  3. Tanggang Dec 17,2014 1:14 PM

    Salam Yg Bhg Tun,

    Thank you anti-jibaok. You mentioned in your narration “Do you realise that there are many external insidious forces who wants to see that Malaysia does NOT prosper, have no harmony, lose all respect and reputation. Can you comprehend and realise that..?”

    Lim Guan Eng mooted up those things again about 3 days ago. As if that they just realised that they all cannot enter into their heaven when they are dead if kalimah Allah not be used. His statement seemed more to the purpose of creating tensions among races rather than to fight for their so-called democracy. High Courts and Sultans already forbid those. Maybe those are the ‘instructions’ from the external insidious forces to ensure tensions among races at all times in Malaysia.
    Thank you.

    Salam Tun.

  4. mubarakchan Dec 17,2014 11:47 AM

    Tun

    For Sdr fatahismi. I support your comments wholehearedly. Like you, I have been saying all this while that our beloved Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad is an exceptional and normal person who is one of our Malaysia’s great statesmen, not only of Asia but the World.

    Here is just one example of his many successes for our beloved Malaysia apart from Putrajya, LKIA, Petronas Towers, Proton, highways, island and highland resorts, malls, condos, colleges, medical system, IT, etc.etc. WITHOUT THE ADVICE OF DR ALFRED WINSEMIUS, THE UN EXPERT FOR SINGAPORE 1961 -1984.

    1. Tun personally raised up 3 million MALAY FAMILIES INTO THE MIDDLE INCOME GROUP WHICH IN TURN UP-LIFTED ( through the purchase of goods and services of ) THE 3 million NON-MALAY MIDDLE INCOME GROUP from colonial exploitation in stability, peace and harmony. The Malays only owned 2% of the National Assets up to 1971. Who else did this in the whole wide World without doing some nasty things to others ? Who else but a Malay, TUN DR MAHATHIR MOHAMAD ! And yet between 2003 to 2014, there are locals and foreigners determined to BRING INTO DISREPUTE A MAN OF PEACE AND COMPASSION through lies and vulgarities !

    TUN NEVER BOASTS OR GLORIFY HIS ACHIEVEMENTS..

    2. Tun in his career NEVER DID THINGS TO TAKE MORE MONEY FOR HIMSELF OR HIS FAMILY. All which glitter is not GOLD !

    THE RULER, 1959 – 2014, CREATED THE ULTRA COMMUNISTIC POLITICAL AND SOCIAL SYSTEM COMPLETE WITH APPARATCHIKS bolstered by the CPF-HDB-Quit & Assessment-Income Tax-GST-COE-Water Conservation Tax-Free & subsidised Malaysian water-Public Utilities-Civil Service-Judiciary-Military of foreign mercenaries. Even Russia and China adopted this System !

    Our beloved Malaysia’s political system is FREE MALAYSIAN STYLE DEMOCRACY WITH OPEN CAPITALISTIC CHARACTERISTCS ! We have our beloved Yang Di Pertuan Agong, the ancient Royal Houses, the Consitution, the BN Government, the good Rakyat, and the natural resources all in a strategic geo-political location with stability peace and harmony. And yet there are some folks who say this is not enough !

    3. Tun always assisted and helped ALL. It was his closest aides and beneficiaries who let him down through their own human weaknesses. If anyone who does not believe, go and check ! He took the blame for the actions of others who were never satisfied with power and money.

    I received no money, favours or titles from Tun.

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH ! Please appreciate our good fortune and our children’s and grand-children’s and those who come after them too !

  5. anti-jibaok Dec 17,2014 1:59 AM

    To.., ‘balance’…,

    It’s good that you say that you’ve come to realise yourself. Hopefully you shall keep it that way.

    However, please do not flatter me, it will not get you anywhere. My analysis is nothing more than connecting the dots from information and findings already available on the internet. One merely need some extra effort and common sense to seek for information from the right places, then collating and piecing them together.., and to share & interact with others for the common good.

    Like I had said earlier I can only share the information and findings with others in the cyber platforms or forums such as this, which may affect us. It is up to others (especially my countrymen) to consider whether those information and findings regarding the issues raised shall be considered either useful or nonsense.

    For sure I cannot compel our government to do anything. However, if the government is willing to pay attention to the contents or feedback that we have put across that may have some worth or merit.., then surely the government should act upon it.

    With regard to the Flight MH17 incident, when I said earlier that our authorities had mishandled the handing-over of the Black-box issue to other party who do not deserve to get hold of it.., then would there be any others who would dare to disagree with me on such an issue..?

    With regard to the Flight MH370’s disappearance, I had also said earlier that it would have been better or more ‘honest’ if our government should have said that they do not know what had become of that flight, rather that conclusively announcing that it had ‘ended’ somewhere in the Indian Ocean. Again, would there be anybody who would disagree with me that such conclusive outcome of Flight MH370 is an insult to our intelligence..?

    I must say that I care for nation. Without fear or favour to whomsoever in authority, do I not have the right to express my thoughts and findings.., for the sake of seeking the truth as well as being very concern for my nation..?

    Just observe at how so timid and apprehensive that you are.., in uttering words such as – “…Do you think a small country (with low RM value) can command a big country to do things. Do you think they will listen or care..?” However, you fail to realise that there is another small country (Zionist-Israel) that can command such a huge country (The USA) to do its bidding as and when that small country desire…! Why is that so.., huh..? You tell us.., OK..!?

    I can only expect that our PM to be dignified, courageous and firm in making a stand and not tolerate nonsense or pressure from any insidious forces.., and above all to be true to the people who had put him there as PM and given him the trust to protect the people and the nation from any harm.

    On the contrary.., giving critical thought and honest opinion is not easy, especially coming from those ‘apple-polishers’ who tend to rub shoulders with The PM, who would rather protect themselves, their interest and to ‘jaga perut mereka sendiri’. There are many of those characters who would dare not rock the boat, spill the beans nor blow the horn. Understand..!?

    And.., why are you being so silly in uttering to expect the PM to start a war…? To start a war with whom are you referring to..? What does the issue of Flight MH370 & MH17 have anything to do with starting a war..? Why are you being so silly…?

    And.., your kind of chatter is the cheap-skate type of talk. You talk about bringing Malaysia to the highest level prosperity, harmony, reputation and respect. How do you propose to do that..? By burying your head in the sand.., is it..? Do you realise that there are many external insidious forces who wants to see that Malaysia does NOT prosper, have no harmony, lose all respect and reputation. Can you comprehend and realise that..?

    You want the best of everything but you would rather bury you silly head in the sand. You do not deserve what you desire. OK..!?

    Since you’ve provoked me with your last question.., i.e. – “…Ever wonder why they pick to down “dua” Malaysia plane and not the plane behind MH17? It is because we are weak or strong or it is because we can be jual/beli? I dont know you analysis…!”

    Well.., here’s my reply. It is because the plane behind MH17 is possibly a lackey & minion of those insidious powers and thus shall not be harmed.., and also perhaps some of us Malaysians can be ‘compromised’…! Who know…, kan..!?

    Cheerio for now.

  6. sibotak Dec 17,2014 12:23 AM

    Apa jua Topic Blog Tun kemukakan semuanya berbalik pada Kerajaan UMNO
    Mencerminkan bertapa Lemahnya UMNO sekarang
    UMNO per Berubah untuk Malaysia Berubah
    UMNO perlu banyak Pembetulan
    UMNO perlu Angota yg Bejiwa Negara dan Berkebolihan

    UMNO bukan Pentas Sandiwara

  7. fatahismi Dec 16,2014 4:20 PM

    As Salam Tun Dr Mahathir,

    MH 17 shot down and MH 370 disappeared. Both are Malaysia Air Planes and the Government couldn’t explained to us what were the output.

    If Anwar Ibrahim Prime Minister, he would resolved the cases in seconds. I think he sure got his connection with the damn US of A Secret Service.

    Najib couldn’t be bothered less. He has proven of his internationally skillful negotiating with the terrorist for the Black Box and the corpse. However, he has lost face on the KTM Tanjung Pagar land and came out as a loser. I think wherever is terrorist, we send Najib to negotiate. If G2G negotiation, don’t send Najib. Pak lah lost Pulau Batu Putih and Najib at the moment to lose Tanjung Pagar without making a cents.

    And as a Rakyat, I also would make a demand.

    My demand is Tun Dr Mahathir make a come back either as Prime Minister or Senior Cabinet Miniter (appointed) with full executive power.

    What say Najib when he heard about this. Sure he will cut off his many overseas trip.

    Wish you Tun a healthy and wealthy life.

    Wassalam wbt.

  8. Abu Alya Dec 16,2014 11:22 AM

    Salam Tun.

    saja seronok nak ulas poin demi poin, dengan izin …

    1. To be very annoyed by the Malaysian govt’s decision nowadays is The New Normal. It is trending everywhere. Like one of our esteemed blogger here always remind us to be careful about behaving and aping in a normal fashion as being practiced in our southern neighborhood.

    2. To the perpetrators, MAS plane is just a necessary piece of prop to stage the show. The dying field is exactly where Malaysia’s active participation is required at. Here’s your 15-minutes of fame that you’ve been dying for. Now get lost …

    3. The aircraft is the property of whoever claims to be in charge of the crime scene investigation, the CSI work. It could be Mossad, CIA, Special Branch or whichever party that grabs the media intention and attention or whoever can pay more.

    4. What Malaysian authorities? The Dutch and the British secret police were on the go giving orders clues to our so-called authorities on what to do next. (so that the black-box can land safely in London or Amsterdam)

    5. It is not that Malaysians have no capacity to hear the records, but what possibly could a ‘bangang’ lapdog do to assist? He has done enough damage for the day after barking all night in the deep dark.

    6. Syukur is the word, we must practice to be Grateful-lah. Malaysia and MAS dapat free ads and coverage on world media. Lihatlah dunia ! ( to borrow Azean Irdawaty’s glam line )

    7. There could be a time-bomb on the plane and/or an Ukraine military jet flying nearby, with Dutch gay pilots in the cockpit, that triggered the blast.

    8. The U.S of course, knew about any disaster that they planned earlier. Some believe, the Tsunami in Acheh and Japan were both ‘powered’ by the U.S. After MH370 disappearance, this idea is incredibly plausible.

    9. U.S are entitled to protect its sovereignty by firing missiles from warship or drones at any target and anywhere they like as granted by their Patriot Act. Like what happened to Gaddafi and Saddam. They can even fly a drone and assassinate Tun Mahathir, on our Malaysian ground if they feel Tun is a threat to their national security.

    10. Not A Trustworthy Organizatioan @ NATO seems bent on going to war against Russia. Actually, its abducting Ukraine for prostitution.

    11. Manufacturing consent is what the Zionists in the U.S govt and mainstream media do best. Too bad, in Malaysia, the KKMM stands for Korek Korek Main Main and has no real function nor value for mass information and mind control.

    12. MH370 the plane is not as important as the fate its crew and passengers. Those poor souls could be locked up in some prison in Tel Aviv, Diego Garcia or Pakistan if they have not yet been terminated already.

    13. As a Malaysian I demand we have a man PM. But that’s not going to happen soon, yes?

  9. Hajar Dec 16,2014 11:11 AM

    Salam YAB Tun,

    It’s funny that some people wondered why MH 17 was the ‘target’ (and keep blaming Malaysia for this disaster), not the plane just behind MH 17 or those flying not far from MH 17.

    Only ‘right-thinking people’ know why…

    Thanks Tun.

    *** May Allah SWT bless Tun and family ***

  10. amin tan Dec 16,2014 8:43 AM

    Dear Tun,

    For Balance

    Your last sentence should be ‘write more often lah’

    Thank you, Balance.

    amin tan

  11. sibotak Dec 16,2014 8:09 AM

    Malaysia has failed in many & badly
    Wake up Malaysia Not blame others

    UMNO Govt must stop talking Rots & Focus on their Oneself First
    Before They can move Forward

    SIMPLE WORDS
    IF MALAYSIA CANNOT DEVELOPS THEN DON,T DEVELOPS
    ITS THE SAME MALAYSIA SHOULD NOT BE PROUD OF THE MALAYSIAN ASTRONAUTS
    THAT JOIN THE RUSSIA TOUR IT IS NOT MALAYSIA IT WAS RUSSIA

  12. azlan95 Dec 15,2014 9:33 PM

    MAS sales in 2013 is RM14b (thats with a ‘b’). With that kind of business size MAS should be profitable. There’s something very wrong somewhere in MAS and probably someone from the outside can get to the bottom of the root cause. Knowing the root cause is one thing, taking appropriate actions is another.

    Anyway I am pretty confident MAS can easily get back on track because of it’s established position in the industry. All it takes is a CEO who can act decisively.

    Here’s the WSJ link on MAS numbers: http://quotes.wsj.com/MY/MAS/financials/annual/income-statement

    Azlan
    KL

  13. mgpunya Dec 15,2014 12:02 PM

    YABhg Tun,

    If this is of any precedent, before, small fries country like Libya were made to pay for their crime after two of their citizents or intelligent agents were involved in the bombing of Pan Am over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988. But, this time we are talking about the Russians…
    Early indications involved the Russians. Russian made weapon used to shoot down MH17, ie.

  14. balance Dec 15,2014 11:13 AM

    amin tan December 14, 2014 at 6:08 PM | Permalink
    Yes agree and like the way you put-it too. Yes someone is screwing Malaysia so what can we do?
    Blame and point finger or take the dirt out under the carpet or what?
    Again Mr. Amin Tan, we analysis only not action.
    If the rumor that Malaysia is a corrupted country or unscrupulous ideas against us what shall we do? Should we be looking for solutions to overcome this handicap or blame everyone or someone? Like I said before everyone or every country must/should takecare of themselves. We cannot continue hoping that our neighbor to be kind and mindful or take care of us. Singapore or other neighbor will do what ever is necessary for their citizen and we should do the same.
    Why a bigger country like Malaysia can be bullied by a tiny country? It is because we bring it to them? Or we have not utilize our possibilities? I think or prefer to think we have not utilise our possibilities. When people are talking, doing and working toward their possibilities, we are talking and doing chest-beating about supremacy on a small pieces of cake. We wasted alot of time, money and energy on self chest-beating and self praise when we should be beating/canning someone else or some country backside (butt).
    Loyalty only come from trust, businessman are clever people they can feel too.
    I am not against BN Govt, I only think they looking at the wrong tree. Want Malaysians to be high-income people and want country to advance but at the same time want them to be timid, narrow-minded and controlled. Can this work? I dont know so I ask?
    Nice to hear from you. Write more offend lah

  15. balance Dec 15,2014 10:26 AM

    Honourable Mubarakchan

    If Jack a very clever man but only talk about yesteryears achievements and past abilities or Jack is only a folded arms or armchair analyst or not on current trends what good can Jack be? Jack can keep on talking about the beanstalk in Singapore but never the beans so is Jack a wise man and fair man or a ??? man.
    Malaysia is no more in labour intensive industries or manufacturing. We used to be but some other countries with bigger population have taken over the role or job. Yes Tun started the industrial revolution and Malaysia gain alot for having a lower value RM. Then Tun created MSC and 2020 dream of high-income Malaysians so now where is the role of a lower value RM? Isnt high-value RM play a better role to attract knowledge-base or skill workers? Are you or are we still interested or want to continue to be in labour intensive industries?
    We talk about poverty and how to improve the kampong folks income and etc but are we just talking or talk only?
    Look carefully, even Indonesia is becoming or a bigger Oil Palm/Palm Oil producer now. Felda/Malaysia may be the biggest exporting company/country but the land producing the QTY raw product is Indonesia and soon Africa.
    Again me and my stupid, confused and foolish thoughts or simply correct? I dont know much but i do know you dont like people to question you and cannot exchange opinion without using XXX words or just only like people to listen to you!
    Eating more salt not necessary wise but maybe cunningly clever.
    Relax

  16. wajaperak Dec 15,2014 10:10 AM

    Assallammualaikum Tun.
    Saya mohon ruangan.

    Pity you Mr Balance.I really do.It seems that you have been subjected to ‘ZONE CALL’.
    And I galled me to no end I have to simplify this 1000 words altercation between the concerns parties..:)
    Nevertheless I fully supports you because I believe that you are a decent man..
    Simplifying the issue’s.
    First about Islam.
    Like always everbody is entitled to their own inclination,leaning,proclivity and tendencies.
    Meaning one attitude that determined the altitude is based on their belief formed by their early life,experiences thus harden their principle.
    It is hard to tell them otherwise even with the abundance of proof and evidence.
    Hence one can claimed anything under the sun.True until proven otherwise.
    The glaring error here is ILMU LADUNNI.The writer contravene Al Quran commands in
    “JANGANLAH KAMU MEMPERKATAKAN SESUATU YANG KAMU TIDAK TAHU HAKIKATNYA KERANA PENDENGARAN,PENGLIHATAN DAN HATI KESEMUANYA AKAN DI PERTANGGUNGJAWABKAN”…
    We all will be called into account eventhough we are not accountant.So..the best person is the most accounted for..
    Second about establishment.
    Mr balance.
    You respectably don’t have the immense establishment and faculty like your opposite number’s.
    We cannot compete and win against doctor,medical officer’s and physician.Tun and Mr Mubarak Chan is an example.No matter how hard we tries we are not up to par their clinical prowess and know how.
    So maybe they said something we have no ability to comprehend.Remember’s the cell breathing?That is the least in the hierachy of my comprehension of the physician ability.
    Now just a little bit of my respect about their ability.
    The doctor’s confide in me that he believe that the patient X ray’s shows something the other doctor could not see.I took a look at the X ray and all I can see is GREEK to me.
    When a patient come,he already visualize’s wether to give NSAID ( non steroidal anti inflammatory drugs ) in 6 weeks or 3 month’s depend on the dosage and the ‘compliance’ = patient respond to the treatment.His skill’s varies for many patient a day.Imagine 100 patient’s a day with various complaints..
    Consequently we have to admit their skill is more than us.
    Third about the evil eye.
    Male d’occhio.
    It is the source of most evil and application.Maybe you can see them here in Tun blog.
    Finally the art of war.
    WAR OF ATTRITION.
    In the war of attrition I have yet to lose.It is not brag but just fact.
    What is the truth?
    What is fact?
    One must agree first to the convention.
    So step back and take a moment of reflection.Be fair in one assesment.
    Agree on which principal,rule,laws and regulation to apply.
    Finally.
    Muslim can only see through ‘THE HEART IN THE CHEST’.While the
    Mukmin can see by the virtue of ‘ALLAH LIGHT’.
    Generally the side of the coin can be only be seen as two like computer programming can only have yes and no.1 or 0 and the command of if and else or if and then.That is visual basic.You can find another host of command in c prompt and all in REQUEST FOR COMMAND.Why?
    Because computer hierachy complemented each other in betterment of service.
    The service of ICT ( Information and Communication Technology ).
    Similarly in Tun blog we tries our damnest to give certain measures of service.
    IF ANYBODY FIND ANY BLOGGER CONTRIBUTION HERE IS OFFENSIVE PLEASE TAKE YOUR QUARREL OURSIDE..
    If you find that your comment’s and ability have been under vicious attack,take it with the pinch of salt.
    Remember..
    Tun blog is not for the faint heart..
    Chinese said it best

    JANGAN BERGELAR PAHLAWAN JIKA TAKUT DI MAMAH PEDANG.

    Terima kasih Tun.

  17. sibotak Dec 15,2014 7:26 AM

    BUKAN SAJA MALAYSIA DAPAT MENGNINGKIS KEHILANGAN KEDUA PESAWAT MH
    MALAH MALAYSIA TIDAK TAHU APA SEBENAR BERLAKU ?
    APA KESUDAHAN NYA MACAM GINI SAYA PUN NAK KIDNAP MALAYSIA AIRLINE
    BEGITU SENANG MEREKA MELAKUKANNYA TANPA TITIK BUKTI

  18. adzimosi Dec 15,2014 7:06 AM

    SALAM PAK TUN,

    SAYA SANGAT SETUJU DENGAN PANDANGAN BAHAWA ADA SESUATU YANG TIDAK KENA DENGAN INSIDEN MH17 APABILA USA KONONNYA BEGITU PASTI IA DILANCARKAN OLEH PIHAK RUSSIA.

    DALAM KES 911 MISALNYA ADA BEBERAPA PERKARA KECIL YANG MUNGKIN TIDAK DIENDAHKAN. PERTAMA, BENAR TIDAK SEORANGPUN YAHUDI TERBUNUH APABILA WTC RUNTUH, SEDANGKAN RAMAI YAHUDI BEKERJA DI BANGUNAN TERSEBUT. MENGAPA? KERANA PADA HARI KEJADIAN ADALAH HARI ORANG YAHUDI SAMBUT PERAYAAN (BUKAN PUBLIC HOLIDAY) TETAPI SEMUA YAHUDI CUTI PADA HARI TERSEBUT.

    KEDUA, SELEPAS BANGUNAN PERTAMA RUNTUH, TV USA MULA PAPARKAN CAPTION HOT NEWS DI BAHAGIAN BAWAH TV YANG MENDAKWA PIHAK KESELAMATAN MEREKA TELAH MENJUMPAI PASSPORT2 INDIVIDU DARI MIDDLE EAST KONONNYA DIMILIKI KUMPULAN YANG TERLIBAT DALAM SERANGAN. PELIK BAGAIMANA INI BOLEH TERJADI SEDANGKAN LETUPAN BEGITU BESAR SEHINGGA TULANG PUN HANCUR LEBUR INILAN PULA PASSPORT YANG DIBUAT DARI KERTAS.

    KETIGA, HARI PERTAMA DAN KEDUA MEDIA USA PAPARKAN TAGLINE KEJADIAN YANG BERLAKU SEBAGAI ACT OF TERRORISM TETAPI PADA HARI KETIGA TAGLINE DIUBAH KEPADA ACT OF WAR. ALASAN INI KEMIDIA DIJADIKAN ALASAN UNTUK SERANG AFGHANISTAN.

    KEEMPAT, PERISTIWA 911 LANGSUNG TIDAK BERI KESAN KEPADA EKONOMI USA ATAUPUN PASARAN SAHAM MEREKA. SEOLAH-OLAH DATA ATAU REKOD YANG MUSNAH BERSAMA WTC TIDAK PENTING.

    KELIMA, USA TIDAK AMBIL MASA YANG LAMA UNTUK BUAT CONCLUSION MENGENAI MH17 TETAPI AMBIL MASA SEMINGGU UNTUK KATAKAN BAHAWA MH370 MENUJU KE SELATAN LAUTAN HINDI (TEMPAT YANG AMAT SUKAR UNTUK DICARI).

    PANDANGAN INI BERDASARKAN PENGALAMAN SAYA YANG BERADA DI LOS ANGELES PADA MASA BERLAKUNYA INSIDEN 911.

    SAYA YAKIN 911 ADA KAITAN DENGAN PERANCANGAN PIHAK YAHUDI PASCA COLD WAR SEPERTIMANA YANG DIRAMALKAN OLEH SAMUEL HUTTINGTON DALAM BUKU CLASH OF CIVILISATION. SEPERTI JUGA PERANCANGAN MEREKA UNTUK MENUBUHKAN NEGARA ISRAEL SEJAK AKHIR ABAD KE 19.

    DAN KINI MEREKA SUDAH MEMPUNYAI SATU SENJATA YANG LEBIH HEBAT UNTUK ‘MENGUASAI’ DUNIA (DENGAN CARA MELEMAHKAN SESEBYAH NEGARA). SENJATA INI LEBIH HEBAT DARIPADA FAHAMAN KOMUNIS ATAU SOCIALISM, MALAH LEBIH HEBAT JUGA DARIPADA BOM ATOM YANG JUGA DICIPTA OLEH MEREKA. SENJATA INI LEBIH BERBAHAYA KERANA BOLEH RUNTUHKAN SESUATU KERAJAAN ATAU NEGARA ATAU BANGSA TANPA MEMERLUKAN PEPERANGAN. INILAH YANG DINAMAKAN DEMOCRATIZATION.

    MEREKA DAKWA SESEBUAH NEGARA TIDAK CUKUP DEMOKRASI HANYA DENGAN MENGADAKAN PILIHAN RAYA SETIAP 5 TAHUN SEKALI. RAKYAT PERLU ENGAGED DALAM AKTIVITI BERBENTUK NON-POLITICAL REALM (DEMONSTRASI/FORUM, BENGKEL, LAPORAN POLIS, BANTAHAN DLL).

    MELALUI DEMOCRATIZATION MEREKA LEBURKAN SISTEM DAN NILAI DI SESEBUAH NEGARA. SEHINGGAKAN WUJUD PERSEPSI DI KALANGAN RAKYAT BAHAWA HAK DAN KEBEBASAN INDIVIDU LEBIH PENTING DARI SUARA RAMAI (DEMOKRASI). MENGGUNAKAN UNIVERSAL VALUE SEBAGAI BENCHMARK.

    JADI SAYA RASA PERKARA INI PATUT KITA ORANG FIKIR SUPAYA KITA RAKYAT MALAYSIA TIDAK TERJERUMUS KE KANCAH PERPECAHAN. TIADA SIAP YANG AKAN MENANG ATAU UNTUNG SEKIRANYA BERLAKU KEKACAUAN DI NEGARA KITA.

    WALLAHUALAM

  19. mubarakchan Dec 15,2014 12:05 AM

    Tun

    For Mr O’Balance. Specially for my Saudara Amin Tan, anti-Jiboak, grkumar etc.

    I WARNED THREE TIMES MR O’BALANCE NOT TO MAKE A FOOL OF YOURSELF. YOU KEPT GOING ON AND ON. Here are the unexpurgated facts just for you who made a fool of yourself.

    WHEN YOUR FRIEND, THAT’S ME, WAS AT AN IMPORTANT INSTITUTION, THE RINGGIT WAS RM 1 TO SINGAPORE DOLLAR 1.O3. Pour le vous Francais Mr Imbalance. Do you read this. We also had tons of gold. Sprecken sie Deutsche ?

    Why the Ringgit later softened was because of our beloved Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad’s sound policy to support the export industries (FTZs) and create the 3 MILLION FAMILILES OF THE MALAY MIDDLE INCOME GROUP (from zero) WHICH IN TURN UPLIFTED THE 3 MILLION FAMILIES OF THE NON-MALAY MIDDLE INCOME GROUP BY THE PURCHASES OF THE GOODS AND SERVICES OF THE LATTER BY THE FORMER. As Noriel Roubini says, ‘ If there is no job creation, there is no income creation.’ Stupid !

    Like my relatives, the good Tun never boasted to his own family. So much so they do not even know WHAT A GREAT STATESMAND AND PERSON THE TUN REALLY IS. Oh my Mr O’Balance, this shows how many use their eyes, ears and brains !

    At the same time, your brilliant Ruler screwed down the indigenous population of the middle and working income folks through his reckless 2 FAMILY POLICY 1970s – 1980s.

    Mr O’Balance, please do not make a fool of yourself anymore because it is an agony to see that a grown up ADULT do this.

    AGAIN MR O’BALANCE DO YOU NOT AGREE THAT OUR BELOVED TUN DR MAHATHIR MOHAMAD, A MALAY, DESERVES TO BE AWARDED A NOBEL PRIZE INSTEAD OF A 16 YEAR OLD TEENAGER. (Remember there was a child genius 30 years ago who flunk Oxford and ran away with her boy friend to Brighton ! )

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  20. musato Dec 14,2014 11:48 PM

    Assalamualaikum Tun.

    Cerita bersambung.

    Yang akan diperkatakan adalah kata hikmah bernombor 188 m/s 210 terjemahan al hikam oleh H.Salim Bahreisy cetakan 2011.

    188) Mungkin engkau mendapat kelebihan kurnia dan kebesaran dari Allah pada saat saat ujian bala kesukaran itu, yang tidak bisa engkau dapatkan dengan puasa dan sembahyang.

    Diterangkan sebagai : Demikianlah pengertian bahawa bala ujian itu sebagai nikmat batin (samar-samar).

    Tidaklah saya mahu menerangkan bagaimana bala ujian itu, tetapi saya pernah terbaca satu kisah di mana Syeikh Abdul Kadir Al Jailani membiarkan anak muridnya kebuluran kurus kering dan beliau telah ditegur oleh si ibu murid tadi.

    Beliau memberitahu sang ibu tadi, beliau berbuat begitu sehingga anaknya boleh berbuat seperti beliau iaitu ayam sedap yang sedang dimakan oleh beliau itu dapat hidup kembali.

    Peristiwa MH17 ini berlaku pada bulan Ramadhan. Dan saya mengaku saya mendapat ilham memberi jalan penyelesaian ketika sedang makan tengahari di atas sofa sambil menonton berita tengahari tv1.

    Ini kerana bulan Ramadhan adalah bulan yang sibuk bagi resort. Masih masuk 2000 hingga 3000 pax terutamanya dari church.

    Malah jangkamasa kerja boleh sampai kepada lebih dari 12jam. Maka saya fikir perlu saya untuk menjaga kesihatan sendiri terutamanya setiap hari terpaksa menunggang motor selama 45 minit untuk ke tempat kerja.

    Itu alasan saya. Dan apa yang dijelaskan di sini adalah berkenaan tasawuf. Hukum syariat perlu dipatuhi. Dan ia memperjelaskan mengenai apa yang diterjemahkan sebagai samar-samar.

    Ketika sedang makan, keluarlah wajah Alexander Borodai di tv yang bercakap yang entah apa apa pada pertama saya. Saya meneruskan makan, dan beliau masih lagi membebel entah apa apa pada fikiran saya.

    Sehinggalah saya mengangkat muka saya sekali lagi dan perhatikan betul betul muka beliau sambil saya terfikir mengapa lama sangat beliau membebel ni.

    Seterusnya pada akhiran setelah saya perhatikan wajahnya samada betul betul ikhlas dalam percakapannya, beliau memberitahu bahawa mayat-mayat mangsa beliau telah simpan tetapi tiada penyelamat antarabangsa mahu datang mengambil.

    Kemudiannya saya berenti makan dan terus menulis apa pendapat saya dalam perkara MH17 ini.

    Kejadian ini berlaku pada hari ke-4 berlakunya nahas.

    Assalamualaikum. Salam sejahtera ke atas Rasulullah s.a.w dan Allah itu Maha Besar.

  21. cek Dec 14,2014 10:57 PM

    Assalamualaikum Tun serta keluarga,

    Semoga Tun dan Tun Hasmah dianugerahkan kesihatan yang baik dan sentiasa diberkati Allah.

    2. Saya percaya apa yang Tun perkatakan di dalam posting Tun adalah hasil gabungan di antara pengetahuan, analisa serta pengalaman luas yang pernah Tun lalui.

    3. Undang2 penerbangan antarabangsa memang membenarkan atau memberikan hak bagi Negara tempat kemalangan udara berlaku untuk membuat penyiasatan ke atas kemalangan tersebut tanpa menafikan hak Negara pemilik syarikat penerbangan untuk turut terlibat secara langsung.

    4. Bagaimanapun di dalam isu MH17, perkara sebegini tidak berlaku. Sebaliknya, atau atas sebab-sebab tertentu, hak penyiasatan diserahkan kepada Negara yang mempunyai bilangan penumpang tertinggi di dalam pesawat tersebut.

    5. Saya mengaku kurang arif di dalam isu undang-undang keselamatan penerbangan namun bukankah ini adalah sesuatu yang agak pelik.

    6. Bagaimana pula halnya dengan kes kehilangan pesawat MH370 di mana majoriti penumpangnya adalah warga China. Adakah hak penyiasatan diserahkan kepada Negara China.

    7. Persoalan juga, kenapa kuasa besar Amerika Syarikat yang dipercayai mempunyai kelengkapan serba canggih yang berupaya mengenalpasti objek di muka bumi sehingga sebesar 1 meter persegi boleh “terlepas pandang” dan “clueless” terhadap kedua-dua insiden besar ini.

    8. Adakah kuasa besar ini cuba menyembunyikan sesuatu, sengaja tidak peduli atau sememangnya tidak tahu.

    9. Sebagai konklusinya, tidak perlulah kita memberikan hujah2 yang panjang lebar di atas apa yang disuarakan oleh Tun kerana apa yang diperkatakannya adalah logic serta berasas.

    10. Kemungkinan komen saya ini tidak tepat di atas kejahilan serta kekurangan ilmu diri saya, namun itulah pandangan saya yang tidak seberapa ini.

    Terima kasih Tun kerana memberi ruang.

  22. mubarakchan Dec 14,2014 8:24 PM

    Tun

    For all including my new found friend Mr O’Balance.

    It is for the love of my beloved Country Malaysia that I comment truly, factually and sincerely. No personal attacks on any one. Let the TRUTH BE TOLD. NO BLUFFOLOGY TO DECRY ANYONE.

    This period 2004 to 2014 maybe described as one of our darkest periods in history. LET HISTORY AND THE HISTORIANS BE THE ARBITERS.

    HOWEVER AS A BORN OPTIMIST LIKE OUR BELOVED TUN DR MAHATHIR MOHAMAD I HAVE VERY GREAT HOPES FOR OUR COUNTRY AND ALL OF US INCLUDING THOSE WHO THINK THE BRILLIANT RULER IS GREAT because we have everything to make a Great and Sustainable Nation eg. Our Yang Di-Pertuan Agong, the ancient Royal Houses, the Constitution, the BN Government, the Rakyat, the natural resorces in a strategic geo-political location ! Why should we shoot ourselves in the foot always ?

    We do not have a TOXIC ULTRA COMMUNISTIC POLITICAL AND SOCIAL SYSTEM LIKE THE TINY REPUBLIC OF SINGAPORE RULED OVER BY A BRILLIANT RULER FROM 1959 – 2014 ! We have an eduring FREE MALAYSIAN STYLE DEMOCRACY WITH CAPITALISTIC CHARACTERISTICS WHICH HAS NOT GONE TOXIC !

    What we see today is just temporal human weakness on power and money ! No more. No less. The very moment we return to NORMALCY AND OUR SENSES, we will all see how our beloved Country will rocket upwards which A REAL ROCKET SHOULD.

    THE MALAYS WILL STAND PROUD AND TALL. SO WILL THE REST OF US CHINESE, INDIANS AND ALL.

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  23. balance Dec 14,2014 6:49 PM

    anti-jibaok December 14, 2014 at 4:03 PM | Permalink
    Thank you for making me aware of myself. I would like to say that your analysis of the MH17, 9-11, Zionist, USA, Russia, black-box and it contents are second to none (compliments). So after your tiring analysis what can you or Malaysia Govt do? I think we can only continue to talk and more talk and more analysis. If you understand the meaning of survival, then there are solutions but if depend solely on right/wrong then war is the one possible way to solve MH17.
    Do you think a small country (with low RM value) can command a big country to do things. Do you think they will listen or care?
    That is why continue balancing the bicycle and moving forward.
    What to you expect our PM to do, start a war?
    Just giving analysis and opinion are easy. I guess you seen those US TV pundits talk as if they know everything as a fact but no answer.
    That is the reason i give my silence compassion and prayers only.
    The real issues of the day is to bring Malaysia to the highest level (prosperity, harmony, reputation and respect) then many things will automatically correct itself. Ever wonder why they pick to down “dua” Malaysia plane and not the plane behind MH17? It is because we are weak or strong or it is because we can be jual/beli? I dont know you analysis!

  24. amin tan Dec 14,2014 6:08 PM

    Dear Tun,
    Please allow me to discuss the issue of falling exchange rate of ringgit Malaysia compared to Singapore dollar.
    Dear Mr.Balance, you said,
    “‘ I am simply trying to show that there are always 2 sides to/of a coin unless the coin is a tipu coin. WE are just as loss or found as any person and any country. We are no better or worse but we may be one of the luckiest country. Why cant we learn those beneficial or good policies from our enemy and discard their unbeneficial or lousy policies. What ever bad or good things that happened or are happening to/in Singapore or Malaysia, the one big question that cannot be answered is why our Ringgit so low compare to zero natural resources Singapore Dollar. “”

    Some say there are 3 sides to a coin. When 2 persons are debating, there is the third party observing representing the neutral view point.
    2. Regarding Singapore currency having higher exchange rate compared to ringgit Malaysia, it is due to Singapore media hype and manipulation, besides some market forces of Demand and supply to reflect the exchange value.
    3. Singapore is a shrewd trading neighbour to Malaysia. We would always be short changed by this unscrupulous and calculative neighbour. Most of us are awe stricken and bullied by this small country. Look at our raw water sale to Singapore agreement at 3 sen per 1000 gallons. Lucky they did not insert the word million just before gallons.
    4. Somebody, as part of sinister propaganda by our country enemy, forwarded to me a video clip of news reporting in Singapore, saying that our exchange rate is now 2.6 to 1 Sing dollar and in 6 months it would be 3 ringgit to the Sing dollar. This kind of negative rumours would create havoc to our economy. We have traitors in our midst.
    5. Why must be contribute to destabilise our currency and our country economy just in order to benefit Singapore.. The main purpose and evil intention of this evil propaganda is to force down our exchange rate to as low as possible so that the tycoons in Singapore can buy cheap land in Johore, especially Iskandar Development region.
    6. Our ringgit further weakens due to some capital flight to Singapore by Opposition business men simply just out of envy and hatred for Malaysia. They have been foul mouthing UMNO is corrupted and some of us here really believe them!!! They are the rejected sour grape politicians who have greedy ambition to grab power claiming they won popular vote.
    7. There is nothing wrong with the BN government or our currency. As long as we continue to give full and undivided loyalty to the legitimate government of the day, and defend the integrity of our beloved Prime Minister, we should be alright.
    Walllahu alam

    amin tan

  25. balance Dec 14,2014 6:00 PM

    mubarakchan December 14, 2014 at 1:37 AM | Permalink

    Ha ha ha ha ha I been label a lot more than confused. If I am then i am very lucky to be and thank you too.
    I dont suck egg as i usually eat my egg in plate or bowl with spoon or/and fork. So i am very sorry i cannot teach you something i dont know.
    Again sorry i dont know your brother and i dont know who he is married to. I also dont know who is poor or rich and it is also not my business to know too. So I cannot answer you.
    Related i think not, as i am from Mars and you are from… i dont know where but i like to have nice conversation with you because i know you are a very INTELLIGENT AND KNOWLEDGEABLE man but very judgmental and prejudice. Pls take this comment as a compliment and not an insult as i am speaking my truth. Pls excuse me for being straight forward and blunt as I may be …. (new label)
    Someone mentioned the word “troll” and yes everyone troll too. Tun troll too. If troll with intention to wake people up or for the better of someone/some group then “trolling” is a good thing. (Wikipedia: Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion)
    I enjoy mental exercise with you as i can learn many things from you. I learn many thing including Islam from Tun, Wajaperak and Amin Tan. Maybe I can learn how to make RM high value than S$ from you ha ha ha
    Relax i am not against you and i dont have to know who you are too as in the NET everyone is equal. IT is OK as long as i dont say bad things against the country and its law. Blogging can sometimes be threatening if taken from different (negative) angle. Nowadays facts and nonsense are subjective too as many so called medical or scientific facts and truth are found to be not so true or not a fact due to advancement of technology and education.
    CAN BE NET FRIEND?

  26. anti-jibaok Dec 14,2014 4:03 PM

    To.., ‘balance’..,

    Why not you just put aside your rather ‘out of place’ philosophy or principle and simply focus on the issue at hand. Why not you try to be objective on the subject matter. And, the subject here is about – MAS Flight MH17. OK..!?

    Kindly do not quote from Al-Ghazali or some others when your own egotism issue may have to be overcome. And, please do realise that we are mere mortal human-beings and we cannot be dead sure about anything, nor is life is about riding a bicycle or something of that sort. Unless of course, if we are uniquely endowed with the ‘Ilmu Laduni’ (direct knowledge) from God Almighty, as elaborated by one other participating comment here. Thus, as mortals we can only discern with our intelligence and limited senses as best we can.

    Anyway, let’s get back to subject matter at hand. Earlier on, someone had said that – from the newspapers, there was nothing of value could be obtained from the black boxes as the explosion was sudden. And that it is hard to believe that Malaysian government has mishandled the tragedy of MH17. Thus, we cannot simply accuse anyone of shooting down our plane without solid evidence and proofs.

    Let us admit to ourselves that there is nothing more insulting than our God-given intelligence to be blatantly insulted. Would you agree with that..?

    For donkey years now.., the US government & authorities had produced their official version of the September 11, 2001 incident, that says:-

    1) The WTC Twin-Towers had collapsed by raging fire due to the jet-fuel,
    2) The Pentagon Building was attacked a commercial jet-plane,
    3) Another commercial jet-plane had crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

    And.., those entire official story was fully by backed from investigations carried-out by the authority of US government-controlled NIST (i.e. our version ‘SIRIM’) as purportedly being factual and true.

    For the past 13 years, not that many individuals or the media who are fearless and daring enough to come forward and dispute the ‘Official Version’ of 9-11. However, one of the most formidable person who dares to invalidate his US Citizenship is this (ex-US Marine) guy as below:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8__64mFVes (Ken O’Keefe on 911)

    As an (ex) American, this courageous guy simply has the gall and the balls to put it pertinently and accurately the 9-11 issue in its proper perspective.., unlike the version that has been spun and lied to us all over the world, by those Zionist-controlled US & Western mainstream-media.

    To my mind.., the US government and the Zionist-controlled mainstream-media version of 9-11 incident was that it an act perpetrated 19 Arab-Muslim hijackers (with box-cutters) as some sort of terrorist attack on US soil.., is nothing but a great insult to our God-given intelligence. Plain and simple…!!

    Similarly, the official version that the disappearance (for almost a year now) of MAS Flight MH370 which had simply ‘ended’ somewhere off the coast of Western Australia, is also an insult to my intelligence. It would have been better and perhaps even ‘honest’ if our authorities would have said that they do not know what had happened to Flight MH370.

    With regard to MAS Flight MH17, the evidence is much more damning and clearer. It was attacked and shot down by some evil and heartless individuals. Within hours after the incident, the US authorities and their Zionist-controlled mainstream-media was too quick to point their finger at Russia as the culprit. As time went by, however the Russians had subsequently responded with their (very plausible evidence supported) version of the incident which had pointed the culprits as being the authorities of Ukraine (as a lackey of those US-Zionist powers that be).

    So.., which version of the incident is more palatable to us and which version would insult our our intelligence. As the Malay saying goes – “…Tepuk dada Tanya selera…”

    To my mind, I would believe that the Russian version is more palatable, while the Western authorities is nothing but a bunch of bull****, just like their official version of 9-11 incident..!

    Furthermore, when someone had earlier said that – “….there was nothing of value could be obtained from the black boxes as the explosion was sudden…”, In this regard, I would beg to differ. Those black-boxes were designed to withstand the most severe of shocks or crashes. So, if there was nothing of value could be obtained from the black-boxes, then it simply does not hold water. If nothing could be obtained from them because they had been tampered with or that the flight recording had been deleted by those Western lackeys.., then such a situation is more believable. It simply means that, some goons does not want us to know how Flight MH17 had ‘strayed’ from its usual flight path but was made to fly over Eastern Ukraine instead.., and that it was instructed by someone to descend to a lower altitude when it was about to fly over Donetsk. Such data could have been surely recorded in those Black-boxes.., which some quarters do want the world to know. Is that not plausible.., huh..!?

    But yes.., in certain ways the Malaysia authorities did mishandle the tragedy of MH17 incident. After gaining the trust of those Eastern Ukranian Militias (led by Alexander Borodai) to hand the Black-box to the Malaysian authorities, which instead our authorities had subsequently handed it over to the Dutch authorities. And, for what beneficial purpose by doing so..? If that is the case, then the Malaysian authorities should have simply told those Eastern Ukraine Militias to hand over those Black-boxes (that happens to Malaysian property) to the Western authorities and could have save everyone a lot of time and effort. I would bet that those Eastern Ukraine Militias are saying that the Malaysian authorities are a bunch of fools. They would perhaps say – “… We handed-over what is rightfully belongs to you, but yet you simply and foolishly hand it over to some other goons.., how so stupid of you.., Malaysia…!”

    How much more do we have to ‘bend our knees and kow-tow’ to some insidious powers..? Where is our dignity..? It is not ridiculous that the Black-box for Flight MH370 could not be retrieved that even though a mere hand-phone emitting signal can be easily detected by the most sophisticated spy-satellite.., as arrogantly displayed by those Hollywood movie such as.., ‘Enemy of The State’..?

    Even more ridiculous was when the Black-box of Flight MH17 was honourably handed to us (by those Eastern Ukrainian Militias) but was instead so undignified of us to be hand it over to those who are NOT supposed to own it. And, what more that we (Malaysia) are made to be left aside not to be fully involved in the whole investigation of the incident.

    In short, like the 9-11 false-flag incident, surely some evil and dastardly forces somewhere have something to hide about the Flight MH17 incident. Thus, are we going to allow them to simply get away with it..? Are we to going allow our God-given intelligence to be insulted..? And.., until when are we going evade the issue but instead to bury our heads in the sand..?

    Cheerio for now.

  27. grkumar Dec 14,2014 2:58 PM

    I think it is a sad reflection of who we have become when this site is used for personal attacks on contributors and posters. As much as we are ready to give we must be ready to accept other people’s comments. Would hate to see this site being moderated like a DAP blog where only agreeable statements and viewpoints are published.

  28. grkumar Dec 14,2014 2:52 PM

    The Dutch and the Australians have hijacked the entire investigation into the shooting down of MH 17 and the deaths of passengers that ensued.

    There is every reason to believe that the Dutch have a purpose but no legal authority to assume they have a right to the forensic investigation on the whole MH 17 tragedy.

    Holland is not neutral on this matter as the statements issued by their government and by commentators from Holland and Australia about this particular incident shows a clear and unequivocal bias as to what occurred. They cannot now be expected to retract their statements nor come to a just conclusion which will contradict what thy said at the start.

    What was not made very public at the time of the incident is that A Dutch court convicted several officers and soldiers of the Royal Dutch Armed Forces of participation in the deaths of over 300 Bosnian Muslims during tat ugly episode in human history in the 1990’s.

    It was only revealed after that plane MH 17 was shot that at least 2 personnel of the Dutch armed forces or its intelligence services was aboard the MH 17. This is simply one aspect of the several possibilities one has to look into when examining the possible or probable causes of an tragedy such as the downing of MH 17.

    However good in science and technology the Dutch may be, Malaysia had a sovereign right over the aircraft and its contents and not the Dutch or the Ukrainians. Malaysia’s government failed to exercise its rights in this regard properly and must be condemned for it.

    The plane flew a Malaysian flag not a Dutch flag.

  29. mubarakchan Dec 14,2014 11:58 AM

    Tun

    ON THE MH 17, MAYBE OUR GOVERNMENT SHOULD APPLY TO THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE AT THE HAGUE, THE NETHERLANDS, TO RETRIEVE BACK OUR HI-JACKED MH 17 AS NO ONE IS ABOVE THE RULE OF LAW ? Sauce for the goose. But nothing for the gander ? Remember Pulau Batu Putih ?

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH ! No squeak from the Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP, the very rich PKR, the good PAS ?

  30. Abu Alya Dec 14,2014 11:56 AM

    Salam Tun.

    1. Malaysia has been excluded from the investigation because our officials have performed miserably when handling the MH370 disappearance. Our poor work record now bears its ugly fruits nobody wants to see.

    2. When our “numero uno bangang” negotiated for the evidence to be handed over to the perpetrators themselves, he did not know that the Russian would have already extracted information contained in the black-box. Thus, the pro-Russian rebels delaying the international ‘rescue’ team was for a good purpose and measure.

    3. Otherwise, Putin who had in 2013 shamed and exposed the Dutch ruling elite and monarch for their pedophile, incest and homosexual habits would not have agreed to his enemies making use of our “numero uno bangang” to do him in.

    4. Malaysia and MAS were specially hand-picked by the Zionist prior to the TPPA as a sample warning of what can befall to a govt when it defies their instructions. Malaysian economy and sovereignty is being mercilessly attacked from inside (1MDB) and out (WoWS) to bring us to our knees. Wolves of Wall Street are waiting outside our door and will rush in to create havoc immediately after the TPPA is signed by Tok Pa. (Tok-Pa-PA)

    5. Some believe that, Tun Mahathir is also responsible for the MAS tragedies because of Tun’s effort in having Bush, Blair & Co convicted by the KL War Crimes Tribunal, an achievement that obviously have earned the Zionist wrath and the revenge for Malaysian blood.

    6. The ‘nUMero uNO bangang’ will be forever remembered for his stealing $terling performance role as the PM to the American President and the glam butler for Zionist interests.

    7. Welcome aboard to Malaysia Baru !!! please learn our new national anthem here. BTW, the singer is also gay.

  31. mubarakchan Dec 14,2014 11:52 AM

    Tun

    Sorry. For Mr Balance. Sorry, I left out one more TAX – the Water Conservation Tax. Do you not think this Tax is absurd when our unfair 1962 Water Agreement only runs out in 50 years time. And more, because our Ringgit depreciated against the Singapore Dollar, our beloved Malaysia actually pays Singapore to deliver free water = the more the Ringgit depreciates, the more our beloved Malaysia pays. It is good to know you support your hero on this. Facts are facts.

    And what about the forthcoming poisoned chalice TPPA which will kill us all, the good Malays, Chinese, Indians and all, INCLUDING YOU GOOD MR BALANCE ?

    Hey Mr Balance ! This poisoned chalice TPPA is legally crafted by your brilliant Ruler too with tomes and tomes of legalese (under the cover of the most secret negotiations to trap our naive and innocent whoever) which our beloved Malaysians have never been able to decipher eg. the simple one liner 1962 Water Agreement or the give away ( not take away ) WHITE ROCK ISLAND. Maybe we get the WHITE ROCK BACK ON A POSSIBLE MERGER !

    HIDUP MALAYSIA ! HIDUP MALAYS ! HIDUP MALAYSIANS ! HIDUP MR O’BALANCE ?

  32. mubarakchan Dec 14,2014 11:29 AM

    Tun

    For Mr Balance.

    Unlike you Mr Balance, I am here like all my other Blogger friends for our FREEDOM WITH OUR MALAYSIAN STYLE DEMOCRACY WITH OPEN CAPITALISTIC CHARACTERISTICS. WE WANT TO KEEP FOREVER OUR YANG DI PERTUAN AGONG, THE ANCIENT ROYAL HOUSES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE BN GOVERNMENT, OUR WONDERFUL RAKYAT AND OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY .

    We do not like your FAVOURITE HERO, THE BRILLIANT RULER OF TINY SINGAPORE WHO CRAFTED THE LEGALLY CRAFTY ULTRA COMMUNISTIC POLITICAL AND SOCIAL SYSTEM IMPOSED ON ITS ENSLAVED CITIZENS BY THE APPARATCHIKS THROUGH THE GOLDEN MEAN EQUATION BOLSTERED BY THE CPF-HDB-QUIT RENT & ASSESSMENT-INCOME TAX-GST-COE-PUBLIC UTILITIES-JUDICIARY-CIVIL SERVICE-MILITARY. Where else but Singapore ? China and Russia ?

    OUR BELOVED TUN DR MAHATHIR MOHAMAD DID NOT GIVE ME ANY MONEY, FAVOURS OR TITLES. I do it for our CHILDREN, FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY, SOVEREIGNTY, NATIONAL INTEREST, SELF ESTEEM Mr Balance ! You may join us too. No hard feelings after all we are MALAYSIANS.

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  33. mubarakchan Dec 14,2014 1:37 AM

    Tun

    For Mr Balance. The more you try to explain yourself on why you ride the high horse and spouted out your philosophies of the World, the more you sounded very confused. Please avoid giving high faluting advice or comments on matters YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

    Please do not teach me how to suck eggs.

    DO YOU KNOW THAT MY ELDER BROTHER MARRIED YOUR BRILLIANT RULER’S ONLY SISTER IN OCTOBER 1951 WHEN THE RULER’S FAMILY WAS VERY POOR ! Do you know !

    In our beloved Malaysia either we are very good friends or related. May I ask who are you ?

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  34. balance Dec 13,2014 7:52 PM

    mubarakchan December 13, 2014 at 1:37 PM | Permalink

    I am not balance or imbalance as an english word, I am simply trying to show that there are always 2 side o/tof a coin unless the coin is tipu coin. WE are just as loss or found as any person and any country. We are no better or worst but we may be one of the luckiest country. Why cant we learn those beneficial or good policies from our enemy and discard their unbeneficial or lousy policies. What ever bad or good things that happened or are happening to/in Singapore or Malaysia, the one big question that cannot be answered is why our Ringgit so low compare to zero natural resources Singapore Dollar. When our Ringgit is on par or better value then only we can say we are superhero or superman. Right now whatever we can learn or copy we should for the good of the country. Just being proud or kampung supremacy is not the wise way. Look at what Pakistan do to USA, the Pakistan Govt take their money then ask USA to go fly kite. This is smart they know how to use their bargaining power.

  35. balance Dec 13,2014 6:52 PM

    anti-jibaok December 13, 2014 at 12:51 PM | Permalink

    I dont know whether i like “grow” or “change” maybe you know more what i like. I only know that i am get older by the days and i enjoy, cherish and appreciate every moments of it. I also know that as i get older i learn to “take things up” and “put things down”. I also know that when engage in a blog, freedom of thoughts and openness is very important.
    So from your comments i can see you are a nature lover or very concern, taking care and preserving nature and natural flora & fauna. This is very good but why do you like to use Red Indians as your reference and not our Orang Asli. Why need to see so far when right in front of your nose same things are happening to the Orang Asli.
    Lastly, I hope you know how to ride a bicycle and if you dont then I also dont know how to teach lah. Ha ha ha Happy happy
    Cheerio

  36. zahar Dec 13,2014 6:00 PM

    We are now having incompetent country head and administrators, if the situation prolong, definitely the country executive power will fall to the opposition and it will be forever…

    Can’t you see the unlawful behavior smearing country in progress freely and previous ISA detention technically questionable?

    golongan tertentu mengejar kekayaan dan terlalu takut hilang kuasa mempertaruhkan masa depan MALAYSIA, kalau kita bergantung kepada orang asing untuk menyelesaikan masalah MH370 dan MH17, maka sama sekali kita bergerak kearah kehancuran, pakar ada dalam negara dan tidak mendapat tempat, yang diletak di barisan hadapan mengepalai isu negara hampir semuanya tidak ada rasa cinta pada negara, anak bangsa dan agama…

    yang ingin membangun bersama negara, sayang pada negara sudah tidak bermakna lagi, yang menuju kecemerlangan hanyalah mereka yang teragak-agak untuk mati kerana MALAYSIA!

    untuk bertemu dengan TUN bukanlah senang…saya sudah muak…golongan tertentu yang takut akan bayang bayang menjadi penghalang kepada kecemerlangan.

  37. Idea Dec 13,2014 5:41 PM

    Dear Tun,

    “6. Malaysia seems unduly grateful being allowed to participate in examining the wreckage in Holland. What is there to be grateful for?”

    The paragraph above reminds me of our TPP negotiators. Not only do they seem grateful to be in TPP meetings, but they also seem to brag about their expertise. I wonder what there is to be grateful and proud for.

  38. mubarakchan Dec 13,2014 1:37 PM

    Tun

    For Mr Balance. No apology is necessary Mr Balance. We are Malaysians. I have a very thick skin.

    In 2011, I jousted over 80 times with those sub-continent types embedded in the Malaysia Chronicle, sometimes up to 4 a.m. on an abstract subject, ‘ Datin Seri Rosmah and her LLD from Curtin University.’ I do not know the good lady. But I thought the insulting and abusive attacks on her were unfair. For the simple reason that all Universities since time immemorial depended on their Benefactors. My own college has Mr Li Kah Shing as a Fellow who does not speak a single word of English.

    Mr Balance, unsolicited and unwarranted remarks especially on innocent people whose profiles are unknown to you, do not pay.

    I have no ill feelings towards anyone and am exceedingly happy. I hope you are the same too, Mr Balance. But what I do not understand Mr Balance is that sometimes you become Mr Imbalance ! You created a similar incident last year, remember ? Maybe I have an image problem of being a plain Encik.

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  39. anti-jibaok Dec 13,2014 12:51 PM

    Someone said – “… Mr. Balance. It’s time you grow up….”

    Maybe.., ‘balance’ does not like the word ‘grow’.., but would prefer the word.., ‘change’.., as those Pakatan Rakyat people have always chanted for.

    Perhaps.., ‘balance’ fail to realise that not all people know to ride a bicycle nor can they comprehend how to keep moving. Those very remote natives and aborigines in the Amazon jungle do not know how to ride bicycles and they do not keep moving.., do they..? But they do not endanger the wildlife nor do they harm the environment.

    However, our so-called ‘civilised’ world have done quite the opposite. Especially the Western ‘civilised’ world, that have little value for morality and have no sense for humanity. Go ask those native North American Indians and you will discover about the Western concept of maintaining balance and how to keep moving had done.

    To my mind, those Native American Indian Elders are by far much wiser as compared to those Wall Street Bankers or those Zionists owned US politicians. Take a look at this video URL here to understand:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7cylfQtkDg

    Remember what that wise Native American Indian Elder had said:-

    “… Everything was brought here by The Creator.., The One Creator. Some people call him God.., some people call him Buddha.., some people call him Allah.., some people call him other names. We call him ‘Konkachila’ (Grandfather)..!”

    It is not so alarming and frightening when he had said that – Before the arrival of Christopher Columbus and the Europeans to North America, the population of the Native American Indians was around 60,000,000 (60 million) of them. However, after the 2nd World War there were only about 800,000 of them in North America still around, who were almost exterminated. How so sick and sad.., huh..!?

    So.., perhaps ‘balance’ can keep balancing and keep on riding the bicycle to reach who knows where and what..!

    P.S.> I may be wrong, but I sense a fake and troll here.

  40. sibotak Dec 13,2014 12:50 PM

    Why surrender the Black box to Dutch & British in the first place ?
    It can be & will be corrupted to be an instrument towards Russia or What
    At whose consent it was surrendered ? At whose Supervision ?
    If Malaysia are not able to investigates STILL it is not an excuse to sent the evidence there
    All has to be brought back to Malaysia and bring in their expertise to Malaysia

  41. mubarakchan Dec 13,2014 12:18 PM

    Tun

    For Mr Balance. I now remember Mr Balance is a great admirer of the brillliant Ruler who created the now toxic ULTRA COMMUNISTIC POLITICAL AND SOCIAL SYSTEM WHICH IS IMPOSED ON THE CITIZENS BY HIS APPARATCHIKS.

    It is time that the 28 Policy failures of the brilliant Ruler who concocted the unique but toxic Ultra Comunistic Political and Social System, be made known again for Mr Balance and his band of cohorts and those new Bloggers who wonder what these 28 failed Policies are !

    The last time these 28 failed Policies were repeated for the edification of all was 3 months ago. To put into perspective, the Ruler brainwashed Malaysians since 1964 to 2014 using the very best methods in the World which created the domestic political problems today.

    THE 28 POLICY FAILURES OF THE BRILLLIANT RULER OF SINGAPORE ( 1959 – 2014 ). ( If anyone tells me that he is not a Ruler anymore, iit is just like telling me my father is not my father. )

    1. The use of money to buy out Thaksin. This brought about the deaths and injuries to hundreds of innocent men, women and children. This created 2 d’ etats on the face of the brilliant Ruler. Malaysia has no such blood on her hands. Where are you Uncle Sam ? Vide. ASEAN Regional News.
    2. The loss of US$ 108 billions of the CPF Trust money belonging to the citizens on Wall Street in October 2008 by the dysfunctional meritocratic pyramid with the smartest fellow on top. Vide. Channelnewsasia. Lee Kuan Yew. December 2009. Financial Times London. Gillian Tett. April 2010.
    3. The 2 Child Family Policy of the 1970s and the 1980s applied recklessly on a population of 2 millions. Vide. The Singapore Government’s White Paper on population. 2013. The indigenous population was screwed down from 100% in 1959 to 62% in 2012.
    4. Humanity and Multiculturalism not practised. Vide. Channelnewsasia. 2011-2013. The Curry Smell Tribunal. 188 bus drivers strike Toilet fights etc
    5. A perfuntory Judiciary well-known around the World. Vide Dr Chee. Tan Koon Swan. The German, Australian and Malaysian drug mules.. Dr Woffles Wu. Shaw – If the Police stopped at 1, he would not have been in trouble. But they stopped at 51 ! Poor girl ! Very cruel.
    With the publishing of the Festschrift ‘ Big Ideas of Lee Kuan Yew ‘, the EX-CHIEF JUSTICE UNDERLINED HIS PLACE IN THE SINGAPORE SUN !
    6. 5,000 pigs imported daily. The flower nurseries contracts.. King of the Road. The sale of Kim Eng Securities to Maybank.etc.etc.
    7. A World class transportation not established. Vide. Manubhani. Distinguished academician and diplomat.
    8. The failure of proper management of foreign labour. Vide. Channelnewsasia. The Little India riots, the Rex Cinemas sit-in etc.
    9. The spy network established in neighbouring countries using swallows, ducks, journalists, mah-jong playing tycoons etc. Vide. Wikileaks. The naive, friendly and hospitable UMNO owned New Straits Times Streets Central Supplement Page 8. March 8 2014 – spies galore mixing with top civil servants in technicolour.
    10 The establishment of a full-fledged military of 300,00 active reservists, aging Gurkha Brigades, F-35s, drones, Apaches, AWACS, Hercules, humongous balloons, rusting tanks, 9 submarines, corvettes, foreign mercenaries to man the hardware, secret caverns, a $2 billions water strategic reserve, bomb-proofed buildings, spies of swallows, ducks, journalists, tycoons etc. against neighbours who love to play 19 holes of golf only.
    11. The Policy to dominate Malaysia by the use of SIMPLE MINDED proxies. Vide. The daily politics of Malaysia.
    12. The founding of the Singapoean Trojan Horse DAP by the retreating PAP in 1966. This Party never contributed to National Development for 48 years. When the BN Government said, ‘Yes.’ It said ‘No’. And when the BN Government said ‘ No’. It said ‘Yes’ The DAP is partly funded by the allowances to its Aduns from the BN Government !
    13. The sneaky Policy of using the great United States to be the battering ram TPPA to smash open the tariff door of Malaysia in its desperate attempt to save itself. If Malaysia signs the poisoned chalice TPPA, the Malays will be like the Red Indians of North America. They died without a whimper. The non-Malays suffer a fate worse than death because they are not a party to this. Singapore survives with the enslaved resource rich Malaysia as her LIEBERSRAUM. We the free Rakyat will be enslaved as socio-econmic slaves. Remember the ULTRA COMMUNISTIC SYSTEM OF SINGAPORE ! 99.99 % of Singaporeans are enslaved by a dainty chain of legal NITTY GRITTIES FOR A LIFE-TIME !
    14. The frequent breakdowns of the MRT. Vide. The Hong Kong’s MRT has 99% efficiency.
    15. The Policy to import 1.2 millions rich and poor foreigners to boost the GDP because 300,000 local families emigrated for greener pastures.
    16. The much touted Meritocratic System collapsed when US$ 108 billions were officially lost in October 2008. Apart from the Military, this was used to keep the 0.01% on top of the 1% elite in power. You no get cushy job if you no go to Oxbridge, Yale or Harvard ! 99.99% of the people locked out of power. This Meritocratic Pyramid with the smartest fellow on top was dismantled in 2013 by two Ministerial announcements which blandly stated that academic qualifications are no longer essential but also an applicant’s hidden talents. Vide Channelnewsasia. 2013 – 2014.
    17. The highest paid Ministers in the World when only an annual 3.5% CPF dividend which just about covers the inflation rate, is distributed. The 99.99% of the population become poorer and poorer like now. Vide, CPF Annual Reports. Warren Buffet.
    18. The emigration of 300,000 members of the middle income group which are the supporters of the Ruler, to greener pastures. Vide. Government Statistics.
    19. The command System to collect information on everyone. This is now ineffective since the threat is now further afield.
    20. The legal use of the CPF money as an adjunct to the ULTRA COMMUNISTIC POLITICAL AND SOCIAL SYSTEM which has now become TOXIC.
    21. The use of the CPF money which is legally loaned to the Government, in risky investments like banks in this on-going World recession. These Soverign Funds are a misnomer. Only Canada, Norway and the Gulf States can rightly called their funds, SOVEREIGN FUNDS.
    22. The purchase of foreign athletes to win GOLD MEDALS. Their expiry dates were forgotten !
    23. The brilliant Ruler has been in power since 1959. To say he is no longer the Ruler, it is like saying that my father is not my father !
    24. The failure of most of the important Policies as adopted by the Singapore Government since 1965.
    25. The glittering mega buildings and infrastructures today were due to Dr Alfred Winsemius the Dutch UN economics expert who was the Adviser to the Singapore Government, 1961 – 1984. But the development of the human resources was left to the Ruler. The indigenous population was screwed down from 100% in 1959 to 62% in 2012. Places of worship and heritage buildings were torn down in the 1970s. The vernacular schools and Nantah were wiped out. 300,000 souls emigrated – the Ruler’s supporters. Vide. The Singapore Government’s White Paper on population. 2013.
    26. The Money Grab Policy of the Singapore Government has failed due to its rejection by its own citizens. In the early 1980s, a rich young tycoon was encouraged to go round the schools and lecture to the tender young children that it is good to be GREEDY. This is sheer madness of a unconscionable kind !
    27. The propaganda, the brainwashing etc by the very best methods with no expense spared, masked the insidious and sneaky anti-Democratic ULTRA COMMUNISTIC POLITIICAL AND SOCIAL SYSTEM IMPOSED ON THE CITIZENS BY THE RULER AND HIS APPARATCHIKS which has gone TOXIC.
    28. The current devolution of the tiny Republic of Singapore as a viable and sustainable State without water and natural resources is an on-going process.

    OUR BELOVED TUN DR MAHATHIR MOHAMAD NEVER DID ANY OF THE ABOVE-MENTIONED FAILURES NEITHER DID HE EVER THINK ABOUT SUCH ABSURDITIES OF AN ABNORMAL NATURE. He is a NORMAL PERSON. Uncle Sam where are you ?

    Mr Balance, please do not ride the high horse just because you are an admirer of the Ruler of the Ultra Communistic Ruler of tiny Singapore and look down on us the Rakyat of Malaysia. I have a friend who has better grades and went to a best college than your Ruler in the University of Cambridge ! He does not boast and harm others. You remember the other Cambridge graduate who used his talents to steal the Khazanah’s treasures. A rock fell on his head ! THIS WILL BE THE HOLLYWOOD ENDING FOR ALL BAD GUYS ! NO MORE. NO LESS.

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  42. balance Dec 13,2014 9:36 AM

    mubarakchan December 12, 2014 at 11:27 PM | Permalink

    Sorry and sincere apology if my so called “emotional” comment hurt your feelings. Anyway to me it is just a conversation with questions and opinions. No intention to hurt you and I will/should take your word as what you say you are and your views as truths too. I only hope for the best to happen. Anyway one last question, in your mind who is/was my favorite ruler? For me the owner of this blog is my favourite person and leader (not Ruler). He did many many things that are beneficial and a few or some not so beneficial things. No one is prefect and all things are impermanence except death.

    Would like to share some wise man quote:
    “Declare your jihad on thirteen enemies you cannot see -egoism, arrogance, conceit, selfishness, greed, lust, intolerance, anger, lying, cheating, gossiping and slandering. If you can master and destroy them, then you will be ready to fight the enemy you can see.”
    Abu Hamid al-Ghazali

    “The sign of intelligence is that you are constantly wondering. Idiots are always dead sure about every damn thing they are doing in their life.”
    Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev

    “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.”
    Albert Einstein

    Once again apology

  43. mubarakchan Dec 12,2014 11:27 PM

    Tun

    For Mr Balance.

    I do not like to be disrecpectul of your views. Unfortunately, your views are not factual but only base emotions. I do not like to be cynical.
    I do not like to give advice to others for fear they are my peers.
    I do not like to disrespect my fellow Malaysians by giving cocksure advice. This I never do !
    I like to shoot down arrogant fakes with facts and facts only, like your favourite Ruler.
    I do not like to be jealous of others who make sensible remarks.
    I do not like to pick on others personally and try to make them look small to gain kudos for myself. Glory and money are not important to me.
    I do not like to make my fellow compatriots feel humiliated by my insensitive remarks.
    I do not like to make any person as a punching bag which you do with me, Mr Balance. It is time you stop this nonsense.

    Mr Balance. It time you grow up.

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  44. anti-jibaok Dec 12,2014 11:24 PM

    “…The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing…” – Edmund Burke

    Ever since the 9-11 incident.., evil has become more and more triumphant up and till this very day. Such a scenario has become so obvious and clear. But, why so..? Well.., perhaps because many of the good people are too cowardly and scared of those evil ones.

    However, good people need not be scared. Just take a look at these women, there are not scared of the evil ones, even though they are women. Observe these video URLs here:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGVbpsGmLVo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JrqfJ67GUM

    If we do not do anything to fight evil, then perhaps sometime in future we or any our loved ones may fall victim to some other tragic false-flag operation devised by the wiles of those evil ones.

    Even though by means of merely the internet platform, at least the good Tun Dr. is doing something about it, in effort to give evil a hard time so they may not triumph.

    If we regard ourselves as good people, then its high time that we do something against evil.

  45. balance Dec 12,2014 10:15 PM

    amin tan December 11, 2014 at 6:56 PM | Permalink

    You put up some good points and we should think about it!!!
    Like the way you put it up too

  46. balance Dec 12,2014 10:10 PM

    mubarakchan December 12, 2014 at 3:43 PM | Permalink

    Yin Yang – every good have its bad and every bad have its good
    Dont be too sure, as there is a saying ” Only idiots are dead sure”
    This is a time of opportunities too for some!
    Time for Rich become poor and poor become rich
    Is there something wrong for poor to become rich?
    What is wrong to you may be right to others.
    No attachment No disappointment
    Then can die peacefully

  47. cvco Dec 12,2014 8:39 PM

    Dear Tun,

    I agree with your comments abotu MH17 and wish to add something about item #12, the relationship of MH370 to 911.

    I, like everyone else, am saddened and frustrated by the situation with MH370 and frankly I was hoping by now you could shed some light on it by virtue of your position. Likewise, can you add anything important to the case of your comment about 911? Its a sore topic actually, not because of the loss nobody can reverse but because enquiries into what really happened are still until now met with “shuttup, mind your own business.” There are a great number of Americans who do not believe the official account of the tragedy because, since you mentioned it, CCTV footage of the crash into the Pentagon shows only a low-passing aircraft, not a crash at all and therefore no disintegration of the plane. Any and all photos taken at the scene show not the slightest hint that an aircraft was ever there. Yet, the government insists it did crash into the building. As PM, did you hear or know anything at all that might be useful today? I agree, planes cant simply disappear as if snatched by the hand of God.

  48. owka Dec 12,2014 7:19 PM

    Salam Tun….
    Im fully support your post. The right thing is why Malaysia did not get access to that matters. It seems like there are something wrong happened. When will we get justice for those who are the victims…their family…How long it will takes…
    Regarding the issues MH370 and MH17…Malaysia as the owner of the flght who have right, didnt get fully authority to handle that things..
    We can see that all things is controlled by US.. Exactly, where are the justice? It have been so long…
    Tun M…we will always support you….I love your ideas and speeches…
    Hope you always fine..

  49. nick3 Dec 12,2014 7:00 PM

    Вы им зачем чёрные ящики отдали? Вам же специально передали их, а вы, как послушные рабы, отдали их хозяевам. Там всё было организовано, вы могли приехать, собрать своих.

    “8. The U.S knew that it was a Russian missile immediately after the news of MH 17 being brought down. How did they identify the missile so quickly, even who fired etc.?”

    There was an audio record made before the crash from different pieces, pointing to rebels. It was non-professional falsification, because they left trace inside the format of file.

  50. mubarakchan Dec 12,2014 3:43 PM

    Tun

    This is not only for Mr LIM KIT SIANG BUT FOR ALL TRUE MALAYSIANS, MALAYS, CHINESE, INDIANS AND ALL.

    THIS IS A CLARION CALL WITH THE PRICE PER BARREL OF OIL DROPPING BELOW USDR 60. Just the observation of 3 vital words in our vocabulary:-

    SOVEREIGNTY, NATIONAL INTEREST, SELF-ESTEEM – No more. No less.

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  51. luba Dec 12,2014 3:05 PM

    Salam Semua.

    Bagi pandangan saya, lebih baik siasatan ke atas MH17 dilakukan oleh Belanda dan semua negara yang terlibat, Supaya ia nampak lebih adil sebab ia melibatkan rakyat negara mereka, kalau MALAYISIA sahaja yang buat siasatan dah tentu banyak negara akan salahkan MALAYSIA, sekurangnya tanggungjawab bersama perlu ada dalam siasatan, kita tak boleh pentingkan diri sendiri hanaya kerana pesawat tersebut milik malaysia,

    Mengenai bangkai pesawat MH17 tak perlulah kita berebut nak ambil sebab MH17 pun dah jadi besi buruk, jadi tak perlulah kita berebut nak besi buruk., Kalau bangkai MH17 dipamerkan di negara lain, saya rasa sekurang2 nya ia dapat mempromisikan malaysia ke seluruh dunia, Jadi kerajaan MALAYSIA tak perlulah habiskan duit berjuta2 untuk promosi MALAYSIA.

    BAgi saya pencarian MH370 lebih utama perlu diteruskan sehinggalah kapal terbang tersebut dijumpai. Bagi pendapat saya pencarian MH370 di laut dalam itu benar, sebab tuhan dah tunjukkan petunjuk. tapi allah alihkan pandangan kita ke tempat lain supaya kita tak perasan yang sebenarna MH370 ada kat situ.

    Masa kejadiaan MH370, ada berlaku kemarau di malaysia, ramai solat hajat minta turun hujan dan jumpa pesawat, sekurang2 kurangnya hujan dah turun dan empangan semakin penuh, sudah tuhan perkenan kan doa tersebut termasuklah MH370 sekali. Mungkin kita jumpa MH370 lambat sikit, jadi kita kene bersabar, mungkin ALLAH nak uji sejauh mana kesabaran kita, jadi kita tunggulah sehingga ALLAh buka kan jalan dan permudahkan urusan mencari MH370.

    Mintalah Rakyat MALAYSIA berdoa agar MH370 dijumpai.
    seperti mana yang terdapat dalam surah Al fatihah:
    Tunjukilah kami jalan yang lurus, (yaitu) Jalan orang-orang yang telah Engkau beri ni’mat kepada mereka; bukan (jalan) mereka yang dimurkai dan bukan (pula jalan) mereka yang sesat.

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  52. mubarakchan Dec 12,2014 11:48 AM

    Tun

    I fully support your comments on the MH 17.

    Since you retired from the Prime Minister’s Office in 2003, most of the unhappy and unexpected happenings have been due to the fact that the following paramount principles of ruling a Nation appeared to be unknown to those who rule over us eg.

    SOVEREIGNTY, NATIONAL INTEREST, SELF-ESTEEMED.

    The MONEY MONEY MONEY failed Polices from the failed ULTRA COMMUNISTIC POLITICAL AND SOCIAL SYSTEM AS IMPOSED ON THE TINY REPUBLIC OF SINGAPORE BY THE BRILLIANT RULER SEEMED TO OVERIDE EVERYTHING ELSE. This is our problem, aping a failed State in its final stages of devolution.

    It should be noted that there are no books on sale in Kino, Borders or MPH which will teach us how to be a President, Prime Minister or Dictator. But there are thousands of books on all sorts of philosophies like the political philsophies. Nor books which will give an inkling into a successful Prime Ministership like yours for 22 long years with COMMONSENSE, ABILITY TO THINK OUT OF A BOX AND COMPASSION.

    I hope Mr Lim you can see how difficult it is to select a person to do great things in PUBLIC OR CORPORATE AFFAIRS. The success rate is something like 1 in 10,000. This was worked out in your spiritual homeland in 1970 when it was calculated by Dr Goh Keng Swee that it takes 200 sound minded persons like Tun, you and me to administer a group of 2 millions. These are solid facts from your spiritual homeland of PAP Singapore.

    If NORMALCY WITH THE RECOGNITION OF SOVEREIGNTY, NATIONAL INTEREST, AND SELF-ESTEEM, most of the unhappy and negative events between 2004 and 2014 could have been avoided. For our thoughts only eg.

    It was reported in the Star soon after the tragic loss of MH 17, an important official was alleged to have said, ‘ NO ONE TOLD US NOT TO FLY THAT ROUTE ‘! My father did not tell me not to drive when I have no driving licence either !

    MALAYSIA BOLEH ! MALAYS BOLEH ! MALAYSIANS BOLEH !

  53. Aktivis Islam Dec 12,2014 8:27 AM

    Salam Tun,

    In regards to MH17 and MH370, between you and me. We both know what happened behind the scenes (it’s not our government doings but rather some high level conspiracies involving certain individuals). I’m asking you this Tun, why do we still let this culprits laughing and looking at us like an idiots. Their both legacies are a disaster and no longer relevant. They have proven their unworthiness and infamy. In short, we need a new leader (ASAP) whom are not a zionist puppet.

  54. sibotak Dec 12,2014 7:23 AM

    I DO BELIEVES WHAT HAPPEN TO OUR MH 17 & MH 370
    IT WAS NO A COINCIDENCE IT WAS INTENTIONAL
    ITS HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER
    IT WAS DESIGN & MEANT TO HAPPEN
    AS MUCH AS WHAT HAPPENS TO ARAB SPRING, ISIS ARE ALL BORN BY CIA
    DESIGN BY ISRAEL.THEY ARE CAPABLE
    THOUGH MH 17 WAS SHOT IN UKRAINE IT WAS MEANT TO BLAME RUSSIA

  55. anti-jibaok Dec 12,2014 12:25 AM

    Yang Amat Berhormat Tun Dr.,

    Just like the Sept. 11, 2001 incident that had happened more than 13 years ago in New York City, Washington DC and in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, USA.., be advised that the MH-17 incident is similarly a false-flag operation. So, what is a false-flag operation..? Well, just a take a look at this URL here as explanation:-

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/falseflag

    With regard to the MH-17 incident, nobody can say it better than this guy as per this video URL, below:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyNuvMlIAYk

    Kindly fast-forward to minutes 1:23:14 onwards and listen closely to what the man had boldly and blatantly uttered as below, i.e. –

    “… that Israel has to become the Ruling State in the World.., so Malaysia has to bend its knees.., that is why you lost your first aircraft (MH370).., that is why you lost your second aircraft (MH17) because Malaysia will not bend its knees. And, I don’t know how many more aircrafts you are going to lose, because Malaysia will not bend its knees. That is why you are losing your aircrafts…!”

    What more bold and blatant remark can anyone else utter. Anyway, would anyone dare to invalidate or disprove that guy’s remark..?

    Malaysia’s exclusion from the investigation of MH17 should come as no surprise, if we are aware who really are those culprits (from behind the scenes) who are calling all the shots and who ‘rules’ the world.

    Dato’ Seri Najib (despite his usual ‘play-safe’ style & stance) must be given some credit, who did perform a splendid job by entertaining Russia’s President Putin’s private call to him (while Najib sedang nak berbuka puasa), as well as communicating with the Eastern Ukraine Militia leader (Alexander Borodai) in his effort to bring back the remains of MH17’s victims as well as to get hold of the Black-box.

    The Militias had kept their word and allowed access for Malaysia to spearhead in collecting the remains of the victims of MH17. They also kept their word in handing over the Black-box to only the Malaysian authorities at site, as per the video URL below:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-FG–MJ70

    Unfortunately for we MALAYSIANS, the black-box was handed over to the Dutch authorities, which was then subsequently handed it over to the British. How so silly, foolish and spineless of the Malaysian authorities to do so. Apparently, Malaysia was thus made to somewhat bend its knees a little bit by surrendering the Black-box to the Western authorities. How so very sad and sickening..!

    By being in the British hands, the Black-box is just as good as being in the American hands. Thus, we may never know (from the flight recording of the Black-box) who or what had prompted or instructed Flight MH17 to deviate from its usual flight path but instead was made to fly over Donetsk (Eastern Ukraine), only to be attacked and shot down by God Almighty knows who. Thus, as in any false-flag operation, someone has something to hide.

    However, it is more than plausible that our fingers should be pointing to the Ukrainian authorities who apparently is the prime suspect and responsible for shooting down the MAS flight MH17. Why so..? Well, here are the observations and hard evidence:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWlAARb0fN4

    http://www.storyleak.com/evidence-conclusive-ukraine-military-shot-down-mh17-in-false-flag-operation/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJNAf2v4APw

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835088/Is-moment-MH17-shot-flew-Ukraine-Russian-state-broadcaster-produces-satellite-images-showing-fighter-jet-attack.html

    But then again, why would the Ukraine authorities would want to shoot down Malaysia’s national carrier..? Well, here’s some more indication as below:-

    http://www.rense.com/general62/iuk.htm
    (Ukraine – Yushchenko reveals why Israel backed Him)

    http://www.darkmoon.me/2014/ukraine-zionist-americas-new-jewish-colony-by-lasha-darkmoon/
    (Ukraine: Zionist America’s new Jewish Colony)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naoe8KF_3Kw
    (Ukrainian General reveals the Zionist control of Ukraine)

    Apparently, again there are those Zionist monsters’ dirty hands behind this dastardly crime.

    Well, it does seem that Sheikh Imran Hossein’s rather bold and blatant remarks (as mentioned earlier) on the MH370 and MH17 incidents is surely revealing some interesting findings and development of things that we should anticipate. His foresight about those Zionist monsters preparing Israel to become the Ruling State in the World should not be simply brushed aside and scoffed at. It is surely making some sense.

    —–

    With regard to MAS Flight MH370.., as I have revealed long ago in this forum.., it had either been shot down (by the US Navy’s Laser Weapons System) in the South China Sea.., or it had been taken over remotely by AWACS technology and brought to the very secretive US Air-Force & Naval Base at the Diego Garcia Island, in the Indian Ocean.

    The official story as disclosed by our authorities that MAS Flight MH370 had ‘ended’ in the Indian Ocean off the West-coast of Australia, is nothing but a load of bull****. Period…!!

    As an end note, here is something unique for us to remember MAS Flight MH370 and Flight MH17, as per this URL below:-

    https://flipboard.com/section/mh370-b2Hey8

    Let just hope and pray that no more MAS Flights shall be attacked and brought down mercilessly by those heartless and evil monsters. It is high time that we all do our bit to expose and bring to justice those heartless evil ones who had brought great loss and misery to Malaysia.

    Wassalam.

    P.S.> There is no point to bring back to Malaysia the wreckage of MAS Flight MH17. It would have been more pertinent that the Black-box be brought back to Malaysia and we can request experts from other independent nations to investigate its data.., even if our locals are untrained and incompetent to do so. The question remains.., why this was not done..!?

  56. anti-jibaok Dec 12,2014 12:25 AM

    Yang Amat Berhormat Tun Dr.,

    Just like the Sept. 11, 2001 incident that had happened more than 13 years ago in New York City, Washington DC and in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, USA.., be advised that the MH-17 incident is similarly a false-flag operation. So, what is a false-flag operation..? Well, just a take a look at this URL here as explanation:-

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/falseflag

    With regard to the MH-17 incident, nobody can say it better than this guy as per this video URL, below:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyNuvMlIAYk

    Kindly fast-forward to minutes 1:23:14 onwards and listen closely to what the man had boldly and blatantly uttered as below, i.e. –

    “… that Israel has to become the Ruling State in the World.., so Malaysia has to bend its knees.., that is why you lost your first aircraft (MH370).., that is why you lost your second aircraft (MH17) because Malaysia will not bend its knees. And, I don’t know how many more aircrafts you are going to lose, because Malaysia will not bend its knees. That is why you are losing your aircrafts…!”

    What more bold and blatant remark can anyone else utter. Anyway, would anyone dare to invalidate or disprove that guy’s remark..?

    Malaysia’s exclusion from the investigation of MH17 should come as no surprise, if we are aware who really are those culprits (from behind the scenes) who are calling all the shots and who ‘rules’ the world.

    Dato’ Seri Najib (despite his usual ‘play-safe’ style & stance) must be given some credit, who did perform a splendid job by entertaining Russia’s President Putin’s private call to him (while Najib sedang nak berbuka puasa), as well as communicating with the Eastern Ukraine Militia leader (Alexander Borodai) in his effort to bring back the remains of MH17’s victims as well as to get hold of the Black-box.

    The Militias had kept their word and allowed access for Malaysia to spearhead in collecting the remains of the victims of MH17. They also kept their word in handing over the Black-box to only the Malaysian authorities at site, as per the video URL below:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-FG–MJ70

    Unfortunately for we MALAYSIANS, the black-box was handed over to the Dutch authorities, which was then subsequently handed it over to the British. How so silly, foolish and spineless of the Malaysian authorities to do so. Apparently, Malaysia was thus made to somewhat bend its knees a little bit by surrendering the Black-box to the Western authorities. How so very sad and sickening..!

    By being in the British hands, the Black-box is just as good as being in the American hands. Thus, we may never know (from the flight recording of the Black-box) who or what had prompted or instructed Flight MH17 to deviate from its usual flight path but instead was made to fly over Donetsk (Eastern Ukraine), only to be attacked and shot down by God Almighty knows who. Thus, as in any false-flag operation, someone has something to hide.

    However, it is more than plausible that our fingers should be pointing to the Ukrainian authorities who apparently is the prime suspect and responsible for shooting down the MAS flight MH17. Why so..? Well, here are the observations and hard evidence:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWlAARb0fN4

    http://www.storyleak.com/evidence-conclusive-ukraine-military-shot-down-mh17-in-false-flag-operation/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJNAf2v4APw

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835088/Is-moment-MH17-shot-flew-Ukraine-Russian-state-broadcaster-produces-satellite-images-showing-fighter-jet-attack.html

    But then again, why would the Ukraine authorities would want to shoot down Malaysia’s national carrier..? Well, here’s some more indication as below:-

    http://www.rense.com/general62/iuk.htm
    (Ukraine – Yushchenko reveals why Israel backed Him)

    http://www.darkmoon.me/2014/ukraine-zionist-americas-new-jewish-colony-by-lasha-darkmoon/
    (Ukraine: Zionist America’s new Jewish Colony)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naoe8KF_3Kw
    (Ukrainian General reveals the Zionist control of Ukraine)

    Apparently, again there are those Zionist monsters’ dirty hands behind this dastardly crime.

    Well, it does seem that Sheikh Imran Hossein’s rather bold and blatant remarks (as mentioned earlier) on the MH370 and MH17 incidents is surely revealing some interesting findings and development of things that we should anticipate. His foresight about those Zionist monsters preparing Israel to become the Ruling State in the World should not be simply brushed aside and scoffed at. It is surely making some sense.

    —–

    With regard to MAS Flight MH370.., as I have revealed long ago in this forum.., it had either been shot down (by the US Navy’s Laser Weapons System) in the South China Sea.., or it had been taken over remotely by AWACS technology and brought to the very secretive US Air-Force & Naval Base at the Diego Garcia Island, in the Indian Ocean.

    The official story as disclosed by our authorities that MAS Flight MH370 had ‘ended’ in the Indian Ocean off the West-coast of Australia, is nothing but a load of bull****. Period…!!

    As an end note, here is something unique for us to remember MAS Flight MH370 and Flight MH17, as per this URL below:-

    https://flipboard.com/section/mh370-b2Hey8

    Let just hope and pray that no more MAS Flights shall be attacked and brought down mercilessly by those heartless and evil monsters. It is high time that we all do our bit to expose and bring to justice those heartless evil ones who had brought great loss and misery to Malaysia.

    Wassalam.

    P.S.> There is no point to bring back to Malaysia the wreckage of MAS Flight MH17. It would have been more pertinent that the Black-box be brought back to Malaysia and we can request experts from other independent nations to investigate its data.., even if our locals are untrained and incompetent to do so. The question remains.., why this was not done..!?

  57. amin tan Dec 11,2014 6:56 PM

    Dear Tun,
    Please forgive me for commenting on the above posting of yours. My comments are not based on what actually happened but more on what I think is logically might have happened.
    1. The cabinet might have made the decision on the course of action to be taken. If others outside the cabinet have different views, they may have to bear with it. The decision of the cabinet represents the best decision in a democratic country.
    2. I remember our Prime Minister spoke in Parliament regarding the tragedy of MH17. He demanded that the culprit that caused the tragedy must be identified and punished. After listening to that speech, I told myself how are we going to enforce punishment if the culprit is America or Russia. The burden of proof is another heavy issue. Voluntary eye witnesses, testimony from ballistic experts and other relevant matters need to be addressed. It won’t be easy.
    3. I think we have rightly claimed the human remains of the victims and gave them decent funerals.
    4. The black boxes were given to the British experts to retrieve the information and the Malaysian were given priority access to what was retrieved from the black boxes. From what I read from the newspapers there was nothing of value could be obtained from the black boxes as the explosion was sudden.
    5. The scene of the debris was in the war zone. Initially we were not even allowed access to the scene of the debris. Under the circumstances, I suppose we have done the best we possibly could.
    6. I do not believe the Malaysian government have mishandled the tragedy of MH17. We cannot simply accuse anyone of shooting down our plane without solid evidence and proofs.
    Wallahu alam.

    amin tan

  58. immoralequivalence Dec 11,2014 6:11 PM

    With many airlines avoiding Ukraine route MAS didn’t. It was bad luck it got hit not others.thus maybe the ‘ grudgingness’. Beside the tech expertise, if proton airbags( like recent Honda ) malfunctioned, they are referred back to Mitsubishi. Lotus engines conked refer to Norwich. If F1 sepang crash refer not to JPJ but F1 supremos. Also look at the missile trails fired by Hamas. Invariably they originate from civilian areas schools, hosp, residences , ‘ smokes, flames n noise’ . When there is a historical dislike u tend to blame them. ‘ neighbouring country spying’ ( spore) , ‘ islamophobia’ ( Zionist media). One of the root cause of failure of finding MH 370 was the failure to to heed early vietnamese, Thai and our own military radar detecting the opposite route taken. No debris from sept 11 pentagon. U are a die hard conspiracy theorists. Mixing a small nation caught in a superpower geopolitical posturing only add more red herrings into an already complex investigation. Leave this to lt Colombo.

  59. kalam putih Dec 11,2014 5:35 PM

    Is not surprise America will using other countries as pawns to achieve his interest. Even, America won’t care to kill hundred thousand of people, only to achieve his interest. But very surprisingly, when most of the Muslim leader still not realize this thing.

  60. Hajar Dec 11,2014 5:04 PM

    Salam YAB Tun,

    MH17

    Tun said: “As a Malaysian I demand that the wreckage of MH 17 be brought back to Malaysia as a matter of right. Malaysians should examine it in full view of the people. After all it is Malaysia which is being sued by the relatives of the victims.”

    I fully support Tun on this matter. It is so disgraceful to be bullied around by the ‘orang putih’.

    But, MAS is going to have an ‘orang putih’ CEO (definitely with much higher salary/incentives –> higher costs?), and it was decided by Khazanah (Malaysians). So, I guess our current leaders will just let the ‘orang putih’ handle (for free?) the wreckage and ‘black boxes’. It’s too challenging for them to question those ‘orang putih’.

    Thanks Tun.

    *** May Allah SWT bless Tun and family ***

  61. StrangerInParadise Dec 11,2014 4:49 PM

    Thank you Tun for the continuous advice effortlessly given from the day you left the office till now. I love and respect Tun. You are my hero since I was very little and hope to become like you. Lastly, I hope I can meet you in person one day.

    Semoga sihat selalu dan bahagia dunia akhirat Tun!

  62. balance Dec 11,2014 4:46 PM

    Tun,

    You are still the greatest, your stinging questions will make many people ashamed of themselves. After who is Joe Biden now this is so so so mind opening. I dont understand why no so called leaders ask questions like you. Where are they? Sleeping with the enemy? Ha ha ha Maybe they take the easy way out by letting others do the thinking (which they consider very hard) work or they have no idea what to do?

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