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1. I don’t know whether our schools today acquaint the children with Humpty-Dumpty but I am sure older Malaysians are familiar with the character, and know the following ditty

“Humpty-Dumpty sat on the wall

Humpty-Dumpty had a great fall”

2. For those who are not acquainted with this ditty I would like to explain that Humpty-Dumpty is an egg, a great big imaginary egg and it sat on a wall.

3. Then this great egg had a fall.

4. We all know what happens when an egg falls. It breaks into innumerable pieces of shell, spilling out yolk and egg white. And the ditty went on to say that all the king’s soldiers and all the king’s men could not put Humpty Dumpty together again.

5. Somehow I am reminded of the currency crisis experienced by Europe today. Try as they might they have not been able to recover the great financial wealth which Europe had been enjoying all these many years. Trying to put the European economy and finance back into the great thing that they were is like trying to put Humpty Dumpty together again.

6. The Europeans seem to think that they can restore their wealth to its former self by some kind of financial juggling. And because they think so, they refuse to recognise that their economy is beyond repair. They are actually in a state of denial.

7. The fact is that their economy was not sound in the first place. They believed that their wealth was real but it was not. It was really make believe wealth created by trickery. Their so-called wealth was created through tricks in valuation. Share prices for example were increased not because the businesses were making profits but because of the demand for the shares. And very often the demands were artificial, cleverly manipulated by the market players.

8. The money they use for all those wealth-creating tricks were not real either. The banks lent money which they did not have. The banks created the money out of nothing. The money lent is then regarded as the asset of the bank. The more they lent, the bigger the bank’s asset. It was alright as long as they did not abuse this money creation too much. But they became greedy and created too much. This non-existent money is then invested in the shares of companies which were incapable of producing anything substantial, too much which were not profitable. They were invested in houses which did not exist or were not even built. But on paper, in their book these non-existent things were given values.

9. The money created is also lent for the purchase of non-existent currencies which only appear in the books of the banks. When this non-existent money was bought or sold the only thing that happened was the transfer of the ownership of the figures in the banks to the new owner, the so-called buyer. Somehow the owner of this non-existent money was able to buy things with it as if the money is real. This money takes the form of cheques, credit cards and entries in bank books. The owner is seemingly rich. Hundreds of thousands of these seemingly rich people push up the per capita income and GDP of the nation. The nation is then considered to be a developed nation based on figures collected of the GDP, and the per capita.

10. And there are many other financial products which do not really exist but which can be invested in to give huge profits.

11. But then the balloons burst. The borrowers failed to make even the nominal profits and returns and could not repay the loans which had been registered in the books of the banks. For a while it was possible to hide with imaginative accounting. But the amounts became so huge, running into tens and hundreds of billions that even smart accounting could not hide the losses. The great banks failed and went bankrupt.

12. When banks go bankrupt they drag down everyone with them. The so-called financial institutions collapsed. There is a recession and the financial crisis that we are seeing today.

13. What this means is that all involved, the banks, mortgage companies, insurance companies hedge funds etc…etc… lost money, huge sums of money. Now, when one loses money one becomes poor. But the Europeans do not want to admit that they are poor, that Humpty-Dumpty had fallen off the wall. They want to believe that they are still rich, that the wealth they owned before would somehow come back. That the wealth was not real did not bother them. Somehow through some kind of magic the wealth would return. Somehow Humpty-Dumpty would become whole again, like when you reverse a movie film.

14. Some even believe that they are actually still as rich as before and can continue to live the life they were used to. They rebelled against austerity measures, they go on strike, holding demonstrations because of high cost of living and unemployment. All these only worsen their situation. They refuse to accept that their country can be bankrupt.

15. Still their Governments and their experts try to think up of ways to restore their wealth without having to work for it. They still believe they can conjure a return to prosperity without doing any real business of producing goods, of trading and of providing services.

16. If before they could enrich themselves by financial manipulations, they believe they can somehow recover through the same kind of manipulation and financial tricks.

17. But the fact is that Humpty-Dumpty just cannot be put together again. So it is with the false wealth that they had created. The wealth cannot be recreated and put together in some magical way.

18. But the wealth can really come back. It will need a lot of real work – the kind of work which originally created their wealth. Real money has to be invested to produce goods at competitive prices and to sell them in the market to make real profits. With the technological knowhow they possess it would not be difficult to return to manufacturing and providing services.

19. To be competitive they must accept lower wages and lower profit margins. They can no longer give themselves huge bonuses. They must pay taxes so their Government can provide needed infrastructure. They should forsake tax havens.

20. Lifestyle will have to be changed radically. High wages for workers together with shorter working hours as well as the lavish perks will have to be revised downwards. Workers must work hard and be productive. Increases in wages must be accompanied with higher productivity. Working hours and working days must be revised.

21. Management and executives must also expect to be paid less based on their productivity and profits. Bonuses should not be automatic. Even when deserved they should not be ridiculously high.

22. It will take time. But it would not be as long as when they built their original wealth.

23. It is galling. To go back to being poor, to have to work hard to produce real things, to learn to sell in a fiercely competitive market, it will be painful. But it will be real wealth. It will be cash in the banks and not merely numbers.

24. The banks can still create money to lend but the amounts will have to be limited and the loans prudent. Leveraging must not be excessive.

25. One thing the Europeans must learn is to give up is their belligerent ways and their huge budgets on weapons. They must give up their idea that they are responsible for spreading their philosophy and systems to every country in the world. They must not resort to war because it will bankrupt them and prevent recovery.

26. I am not extending gratuitous advice to the Europeans. I am aiming this at countries which have somehow escaped the financial tsunami. Don’t copy the Europeans. If your systems are doing well, continue with them. Europeans don’t have a monopoly of wisdom.

173 thoughts on “HUMPTY DUMPTY

  1. mubarakchan Mar 22,2013 1:49 AM

    Tun

    The countries of the EU indulged in empire building right up to the 20th century and are now in self-denial with the glorious hubris of their imperial past. Then, through successive years in the 20th century, their politicians delivered what they promised without due consideration to the future and their productivity e.g. free education, free medical services, nurseries, llibraries, longer holidays with spa facilities and shorter working hours, etc. which up to 2007/2008 became a huge mountain of goodies in every country. You rightly pointed out their spending of armaments which fought no wars but left to deteriorate through the years.
    All these wonderful perks and goodies have been given out or spent and impossible to reclaim from the recepients who supported the politicians. Now, what do the desperate democrats thought up ? They thought that the best expediency is to collect back (put a tax on the hard-earned savings of the populace) monies quickly and directly in this manner. This is the most cynical move of all in the history of socio-economics. In a way, it is also a childish move and clearly illustrates the think tanks in the West are bankrupt of ideas on how to resolve this huge social welfare overlay in which politicians toyed with capitalism and inject a huge dose of socialism – the social democrats. Decades of freebies were promised to encourage the populace to fight or vote the right way – this is the result. Good money was spent for the non-productive areas of their communities resulting in the unsustainable support as Government revenues drop and the economy takes a dip.
    Cyprus is a test case or a trial balloon. Whichever the penny drops, the United States will not permit the EU to collapse after all its only a question of printing more US dollars for loan and it is good business. Britain only completed paying her Lend-Lease debt to the US and Canada in 2006 arising from World War 2. Vide Financial Times 2006. With the Americans refocussing their security priority in the Asia-Pacfic, all the more the EU is unllikely to fall. The Americans will come in as the lender of last resort if they have not already done so. It is good business.

    Vote BN. All Malaysians. Especially the Malaysian Chinese. The BN as led by the UMNO with the 14 component parties will beat the Opposition in financial management hands down. Beware of the Opposition giving freebies, goodies etc. You will be the paymaster sometime if you are seduced by such temptations !

  2. imammalaysia Mar 22,2013 1:30 AM

    Saudara Saudara sekalian, untuk bacaan anda dan tafsiran anda sendiri. Yang pandai Tafsir sila Tafsir. Kalau tak tahu baca sahaja OK.

    From The Quran

    Qur’an (5: 82) Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say: “We are Christians:” because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world and they are not arrogant.

    ***The hatred emanating from Muhammad’s Quran against the Jews can be seen here..
    Here, the verse above, associates the Jews on the same level as the pagans; as if they too, are unbelievers.***

    Qur’an (9: 29) Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth (even if they are) of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya with willing SUBMISSION and feel themselves HUMILIATED.

    *** For those IGNORANT people among the followers of Muhammad, who have not read, let alone studied the Quran, this verse alone, was a unilateral a declaration of WAR by Muhammad, against the Jews and Christians ***

    Qur’an (5:51) – “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

    Qur’an (3:28) – “Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them…” This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that “believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly.”

    On the whole, Islam is very clear in teaching that there is no equality between believers and unbelievers, and hence no basis for a relationship of peers. Those who do not profess Muhammad are intended to exist in subjugation to those who do

    From Hadis

    Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 4.660 Narrated byAisha and Ibn Abbas
    On his death-bed Allah’s Apostle put a sheet over his face and when he felt hot, he would remove it from his face. When in that state (of putting and removing the sheet) he said, “May Allah’s Curse be on the Jews and the Christians for they build places of worship at the graves of their prophets.” (By that) he intended to warn (the Muslim) from what they (i.e. Jews and Christians) had done.
    Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 4.791 Narrated byAbdullah bin Umar
    I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!’ ”
    Sahih Muslim HadithHadith 5389 Narrated byAbuHurayrah
    Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it.
    Sahih Muslim HadithHadith 6985 & 4.176/ 7 Narrated byAbuHurayrah
    Allah’s Apostle (peace be upon him) said: The Last Hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say:
    Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews
    Al-Muwatta Hadith Hadith 53.3 Greeting Jews and Christians
    Yahya related to me from Malik from Abdullah ibn Dinar that Abdullah ibn Umar said that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “When a Jew greets you, and says ‘Death to you’ (as-samu alaykum) say, ‘And to you.’ “Yahya said, “Malik was asked whether a person who greeted a Jew or Christian, should apologise for it. He said, ‘No’.”
    Sunan of Abu-DawoodHadith 5186 Narrated byAbuHurayra Suhayl ibn AbuSalih said: I went out with my father to Syria. The people passed by the cloisters in which there were Christians and began to salute them. My father said: Do not give them salutation first, for AbuHurayrah reported the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) as saying: Do not salute them (Jews and Christians) first, and when you meet them on the road, force them to go to the narrowest part of it.
    Ishaq 262 –
    “Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur’an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse”

  3. milshah Mar 20,2013 12:41 AM

    Assalamualaikum Tun,

    I’m glad the wiping out of the remaining terrorists is at its end. Bringing in the ACV Adnans would speed things up. Indeed, strategically speaking, we can’t be in this phase for too long. Ideally, we should be in the phase where every part of Sabah is safe and clean from any of the terrorists. Once that’s done, its just monitoring and surveillance and upgrading the permanent army base.

    The reason why I think we should not be too long in this phase, is due to the longer the operation, the more people will want to hear what the so called Sultan has to say. People wants to hear what he has to say, because his terrorists are still in Sabah. On the other hand, if there is peace once more in Sabah, there are no more terrorists in Sabah, people will no longer want to hear him.

    All the major players have denied involvement with the so called Sultan. The MNLF chairman Muslimin Sema have said MNLF respected the wishes of Sabahan to be in Malaysia. Similarly MILF also does not want to be involved with the so called Sultan. The Philippines also wanted the so called Sultan’s army to return. The Sultan himself is poor. And it is known that it is not easy to raise an army, what more to transport this army to Sabah.

    From the above, I think the Sultan is bluffing when he said he wants to have guerrilla warfare in Sabah. He simply doesn’t have the resources. I think the 200 terrorists in Sabah are the only ones still supporting him. Even that was because of promises made that they will be given Sabah land.

    Unless of course, there are powerful hidden hands that we still don’t know about, although I doubt it.

    If Malaysia can get to the phase, where there are no more terrorists in Sabah, and all is needed is constant surveillance of Sabah land and waters, and no more terrorists attack, I think sooner or later the Sultan will be sidelined once more.

    Of course even though he is sidelined, doesn’t mean he is off the hook. He and other conspirators of the Lahad Datu incursion must be held accountable and face charges.

  4. alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi Mar 16,2013 5:16 PM

    Salam, dear Tun!

    Please allow me a short note on the posting of Karl on March 16, 2013 at 9:43 AM and to your administrator at admin@chedet.cc

    Dear Karl, it was a pleasure to read your posting! It make you and I the only two to be of the same opinion in this forum here namely that Tun had saved Malaysia from the Soro attack way back in 1997/98 which at the worst could have destroyed the country. Tun’s measures then were brave, they went against th entire public opinion of the rest of the world, against the IMF as such and against a good many banks.

    But Tun stayed firm and stood it and in the end he showed the entire rest of the world that they were all wrong. This took wisdom and courage!

    At the time he must have asked himself the very same question I often ask myself before difficult decisions namely whether I am crazy or whether every one else is and when, more often than not, I find that every one else is (must be) crazy.

    Certainly every one else was crazy then an there when Tun stood his case and saved Malaysia from destruction. Today still all Malaysians enjoy the benefit of the wisdom and courage he brought forward then.

    To the administrator at admin@chedet.cc:

    An e-mail message I sent to admin@chedet. cc on Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:01 was returned UNDELIVERED as permanent and fatal error giving as reason: Address Rejected.
    The message I had wanted to convey then was the following which I will herewith repeat here for the sake of the very argument for I think that this should be raised.

    Q U O T E
    Anonymous postings and those containing profanities and obscenities will be rejected. admin@chedet.cc – Che Det

    Dear Sir,

    you will know that I am regularly posting comments on chedet.cc.

    When I see your above advertisement as exposed on the PREFACE and when I then see comments like this:

    To the MotherrFucker Tired
    Its better you go and fuckkkk your mother or your sister than shouting here. Incest is common among Malays,

    as posted by bensolomon
    March 8, 2013 at 8:43 PM | Permalink

    … I wonder how you exercise you control function here. More so, when I see that you have not yet admitted my latest posting as yet. What profanities or obscenities do you see in there that makes you reluctant to publish what I wrote to Tun Dr. Mahathir just to inform him?

    Certainly you should have rejected the publishing of the above quoted posting instead! Language like this is showing a profound disrespect for Tun Dr. Mahathir as this is HIS BLOG (!) – we are only guests here and should behave properly.

    If you are in charge of keeping it clean of profanities and obscenities you must start doing a better job. Also, I wonder how you handle the “anonymous” issue. To me, the only two clearly identified individuals posting on chedet.cc are Tun Dr. Mahathir and myself – everyone else is posting ANONYMNOUSLY and is thus risking a BI LIP at times as BENSOLMON has done here.

    Just thoughts to convey to you. Please take them for whatever they are worth to you.
    U N Q U O T E

    Alaikum Salam, dear Tun!

    Alfred Willner

  5. Karl Mar 16,2013 9:43 AM

    Dear Tun,

    Our economic system follows the western template and whatever it dictates as good or bad. In this case, we are left open to their manipulation of the system and we are quite defenseless to protect our economy from their sabotage and attacks if we continue to play their game by the same rule. We should emulate countries like Iran for example, that can withstand pressures and not intimidated by economic sanctions by the west.

    We can actually formulate our own system to defend our economy, like Tun brilliantly did during the Soros attack by pegging the ringgit. Even the economist giant like Krugman could not come up with a solution like Tun’s.

    You saved the country and you have shown that with a clear heart and mind, we can solve many problems if we study it properly and apply our own solution, not the IMF’s or the western govt’s who want to install their client regime in our country.

  6. HBT456 Mar 15,2013 7:08 PM

    As petani, they can always their “farm” their land to sell to kampung

  7. HBT456 Mar 15,2013 7:07 PM

    http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/3/15/nation/20130315133101&sec=nation

    There is no hidden hand.

    It always ended up the poor ones will suffer because of political power struggling.

    I personally think that the Sulu community has rejected KDN’s project IC since Merdeka.

    They rejected because of family honor.

    They are poor, but they are happy and done no harm to someone.

    We do not need genius to answer this question.

    Where do they get the money?

    As nelayan, they can always fish to sell to their kampung.

    As petani, they can always their land to sell to kampung.

  8. abdulazizomar Mar 15,2013 11:54 AM

    Salaam Tun.

    To bensolomon,

    Your name sounds Jewish and I have many Jewish friends that I found to be very well polished people and almost ‘Islamic’ in their faith.

    I wonder why you use this name and stoop so low in your choice of words in this forum. It is a shame for a decent person who is supposed to be qualified to be called a human and yet can use such abusive words.

    You mixed truths with half truths and thus tried to mislead. Have you forgotten that all humans are from Adam? You tried to belittle the Malays and their culture. All knowledgeable people should know that the Malay race form an important part of the demographic structure of the human race with their vast territories and people running from the Andaman to far reaches of the Pacific and comprise hundreds of millions of people owing the biggest share of the world’s shores and islands. They have rich and proud history if you ever care to know.

    The fact that most of them are Muslims today is the incidents in history and they were of Hindu and Buddhist religions before this.

    Thank you Tun and I wish to see that we respect each other more and make this blog a useful forum for intelligent discussions.

    God Bless.

  9. loveDrM Mar 13,2013 12:01 AM

    Tun………….

    u r father to Malaysians…………..

    keep on writing…………………….

    https://www.facebook.com/ILOVETUNM

  10. sabahin Mar 11,2013 11:35 PM

    Tun, sila datang ke Sabah, Lahad Datu dan tengok sendiri apa yang telah Tun lakukan selama ini. Dulu saya undi BN, tapi sekarang….. seluruh rakyat sabah pun tidak akan undi BN. Cuba Tun tengok balik masa Datuk Haris menghuru-harakan Sabah pada satu ketika dulu, Parti Berjaya makan Telur. Langsung tidak dapat satu kerusi.

  11. ANIWA1234 Mar 9,2013 6:15 PM

    ALBERT

    Maybe TUN wants to reply yours personally as he might be busy ……not to worry! they reply soon

  12. alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi Mar 9,2013 5:57 PM

    alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi
    March 7, 2013 at 9:58 PM | Permalink

    Your comment is awaiting moderation:

    To the administrator of CHEDET.CC
    WHY ARE YOU RELUCTANT TO PUBLISH MY LATEST POSTING? IT’S BEEN “AWATING MODERATION” SINCE March 7, 2013 at 9:58 PM

  13. ANIWA1234 Mar 9,2013 5:43 PM

    bensolomon…

    thats why i said “or are you not hindu??????…first u talk of indian then chinese…now jews…who the hell cares……first you said u not rascist but u sound rascist then u said u not insulted but u did insult…..and who the hell cares about what blood in your body man…you are the most rascist *****…..*****…….***** on earth for bringing this….why? u of pure blood?……you told us that malays only married cousins or whatever?…and yet we r mixeds blood???????…..n u?….who your family married to?…..so u dont have any other blood of any kind except your own race?…you rascist ..*****……*****………

    you are definitely a psychopath….hahhahahha….guys just ignore this solomon……who ever pays him surely waste his money……….

  14. sudin Mar 9,2013 1:31 PM

    Salam Tun.

    Dear ‘bensolomon’ aka thambi a/l solomon,

    Do not brand me as a hypocrite after reading my reply.
    I once referred a Malay in chedet as thambi also.

    All Malaysian names are categorised as follows:
    1. Muslim and has bin or binti to go along
    2. With surname like the Chinese, Mat Saleh….
    3. a/l or a/p if you are none of the above.

    ‘ben’ is associated with bin, but since you’re not a Muslim ‘ben’ is actually a/l or a/p.
    Now I strongly believe you are younger than me, thus in trying to be a good samaritan I’m helping to identify you and give you a younger brother tag which is thambi, since you don’t have/give a name.
    You don’t like it?
    Thambi is not a sole proprietor of Tamil speaking people only, same as ‘brother’ is not solely for the English speaking references. We Malays often refer to another Malay as brother or thambi!

    By the way, you must make an open declaration that you have stopped being a Christian priest. We all still remember in one of your sermons when you claimed the children of Adam reproduce in the same manner as amoeba!!!
    Besides your recent postings are too racist and unbecoming for a Christian priest!

  15. RD. Mar 9,2013 11:39 AM

    Dear Bensolomon.

    I think you are a racist, too.
    Please don’t paint the picture that all Muslim Malays are against Jews. I am a Malays and I hate extremist amongst all races. These are the one that create problems. As much as the Jews, the Palestinian too have the rights to that land, However I only have sympathy for their sufferings, since they also kill among themselves.

    I agree, when you are strong & powerful, then you can claim anything, even history. Just look at the Suluks. They wants to reclaim history, don’t they?

    About a thousand years ago, Jews are weak and was discriminated and driven out, without a homeland of their own. It seems, everywhere they went and lived, all over Europe, they did well. They don’t mixed religion with their daily lives. They don’t kill each other over differences of opinion. They don’t prosecute people who go against their religious teaching. They leave it to God.
    The Chinese instead, disperse all over the world because of conflicts, wars among their tribes, hunger and prospect of making a fortune. On religion, they treat it, just about the same as the Jews.
    These are resilient cultures and that’s why they thrives and excel.

    Some say, if not for Hitlers’s Germany the State of Israel will not exist since it would be difficult to get support from the international communities without that ‘sympathy’ factor. Some even suggest that Hitler himself was a Jew. That the massacre was just a ploy to haste the exodus to that land, now called Israel. Anyway, that’s history. What actually happened, no body knows exactly.

    Therefore, the Muslims must follow the Jews. Return to the teaching of the Koran. Leave the religious people be, especially those ancient gurus. These are the people who make us regress backwards. Leave religion out of national school. Religion will only be strong and powerful when its followers are.

  16. RD. Mar 9,2013 10:27 AM

    Dear all defenders of the Malays.
    I told you, Bensolomon is not what you think he is.

    Please stop this racist and abusive discord.

    Without realizing it, you people have disgraced the good name of the Armed Forces and Perkasa. From where did you get the idea that Perkasa will create havoc, (and the army too!) if BN loose the election?

    You will only create more animosity amongst Malaysian and this is not good for everybody. Maybe , it is because you are young and do have a family of your own. If you have children, then you will appreciate peace and harmony more.

  17. bensolomon Mar 9,2013 3:42 AM

    Sudin and others like him,
    I have never written any racist things first, and i have not insulted anybody personally in this blog. Amin Tan wrote politely so I answered politely, no insults. Tun Tuah answered politely only thing he gave a comment which can mean that the Non-Malays can go back to where they came from, isnt this arrogant ?? Thus i gave a befitting reply just to make people like him know that non Malays are not scared of malays. Is China/India scared of Malaysia ???
    It was the Malaysian Goverment that sent officers to China to apologise to the Chinese Goverment when our police mishandled their women.
    Then one idiot by the name of tired ( maybe tired fukkkking his daughter) wrote insulting me personally, is this proper behaviour ??? He is a piece of shit just like another piece of shit Aniwa1234.
    How do you know that I am Indian ??? I am not and thats a fact. Then why all the racist talk towards the Indians ?? That only shows that you motherfukerrr racist pigs deserve to be sodomised by dogs.
    Now the Facts:
    Our Tun, wrote a book a long time ago called the ” Malay Dilemma” it was banned by Tunku Abdul Rahman but when our dear Tun became Prime Minister the ban was lifted. Please read the book. The conclusions you can make after reading the book is that the original Malays are genetically inferior because they marry among close relatives, thus limiting their gene pool.
    There are many biographpy books on Tun Dr Mahatir, you guys can check it out in the National Library. Tun Dr Mahatir’s Granfather was a Malayalee Muslim from the State of Kerala in India who married a local Malay lady, thats what i read ( Forgive me Tun if thats not true). Tun is a Mix of Indian and Malay Blood. Onn Jafar who founded UMNO was of Turkish blood. Tunku Abdul Rahman has Siamese blood. The Malays who carry the names Merican, Kutty, Mydin ( and others) are all descendants of Indian Muslims. The ones who carry the name Sheikh and Sharifah are descendabts of Arabs.
    Tun Hussein Onn served in the Indian Army during his youth ( check it out if you guys dont beleive me).
    The Jews beleive in the Philosophy of a TOOTH for a TOOTH and the Torah Teaches us to Fight Fire with Fire and Sulfur. One Israeli life is worth 10,000 Muslim Terrorist life, understand that clearly. You kill a Jew and the Jews will kill 10,000 of you.

    I have mentioned earlier in my writings that I smell Muslim Fanatics by their writings. Your Hero the Grand Kalifah Osama bin Ladin has been killed with His Head Blown to pieces and His Body thrown into the sea without any burial rites. Now his son in Law is being charged in Court. The US has destroyed Afhanistan and Iraq. Those Muslims like Saddam Hussein and Mulah Omar talked very big like some of the idiots here, but finally destruction came to them, their Countries are wastelands now with constant Shia-Sunni fighting. Iran has said that it will wipe out Israel from the Map, but I say Israel will wipe out Iran from the Map in the coming days. Violence and war has struck practically every Muslim Country in the world now and slowly it will come to Malaysia. Do you want a Civil War here ??? Your Choice, If you want then create it ??? Why Wait ????

  18. ANIWA1234 Mar 9,2013 2:02 AM

    bensolomon,

    you know what tonight i just have my guts to answer and become stupid once in awhile, usually bensolomon when ever i cum across comment like yours i jus overlook …..but hey …..this habit of mind comes once in awhile…..first of all BN never enslaved you indians, you indians enslaved among yourself using caste system…you ppl were mostly rubber tappers that taken by the british to malaya…can you tell me what caste were your ancestors???? for being rubber tapers?…..you not the lowest of the low were you? WERE U OF DALETS?…that eat rats for food and took other indians shit everyday as work….and being caste off by your own indians?….hey bensolomon or whatever…..you are the most ungrateful piece of shit….we never look on you as a caste off!!!….if you were in india now…..you might be chased off by your own indian masters while u using sarong without underpants……you are definite not the most powerful immigrants…..you were the LOWEST!!!….
    And when the hell were you people married malay women?!!!! unless if not you were muslims!!!!you chinese gave daughters away and we educate them so properly that they become more educated and loved….and they inturns hate chinese themselves for abandoning them….
    WHO SYMPATHISE WHO BENSOLOMON?…..you think you are stronger and tougher than the head hunters of borneo?????….you people cant even breed here…….we dont need your vote…..we all bumiputeras whether iban, kadazan, malays, melanau, bisayak, orang ulu, sakai, bidayuh, suluk, bajau,kayan,jawa,…list go on and on….will be together defeating people like you…..last but not least?…what did you say previously?….malays common with incest?….hey indians….dont you remember you ppl allowed to marry uncle wit niece and auntie wit nephew?…..i saw in hindu movies and dramas…..is that not incest…..or are you not hindu??????….man…i think if you are of low caste your behavior will never change… its in the blood….no wonder you ppl were just rubber tappers….maybe you should stay tat way…..

  19. RD. Mar 9,2013 1:29 AM

    Dear Sudin.
    How do you know that Bensolomon in a Tambi or Indian?
    He can be anybody in this alam-maya?

  20. sudin Mar 9,2013 12:27 AM

    Salam Tun.

    Untuk yahudi palsu ‘bensolomon’,

    Thambi a/l solomon ingat tak pilihanraya Sarawak?
    Bumiputra sahaja menang lebih dari 2/3 kerusi untuk memerintah Sarawak tanpa memerlukan kaum pendatang!

    Demikian juga keadaannya pada PRU13 nanti, kaum Bumi sahaja akan berupaya memberi kemenangan 2/3 dan calun kaum pendatang tak perlu menang untuk BN kerana kami Bumiputra berhajat sangat nak menguasai sepenuhnya kerajaan Malaysia!
    Lepas tu kalau kamu nak ikut sisewel penjual sayur yang menggelar dirinya “aku babi” tu sama2 menjual sayur, atau sama2 dengan sibabi tu berambus keluar dari bumi Malaysia, dipersilakanlah!
    Menyusahkan kami aje.
    Lagi banyak dia menulis lagi bertambah kebencian kami pada kaum serta keturunannya!!!

    Hey thambi a/l solomon, bukankah dulu kamu anggap diri seorang paderi? Kemudian kamu kata anak2 dan cucucicit Adam membiak saperti amoeba!!!
    He he he!!
    Sekarang thambi dah jadi rasis pulak?
    Hey thambi a/l solomon, make up your mind who you really are!
    Ada pula si thambi ni boleh berlakun sebagai paderi yang memilih serta membenci kaum lain!!
    Sikit pun tak sedar keturunan tu hanya small minority.

    My advice to you bensolomon, be consistent. Kalau nak putar belit ikutlah cara ‘donplaypuks’ tu, silap2 terbelit atau dibelit ular, susah pulak nak pilih yang mana satu nak kami bunuh!

  21. RD. Mar 8,2013 10:41 PM

    Listen, all of you.

    You all have been had.
    Keep to the topic of Humpty-Dumpty, not hatred amongst ethnics, please.
    Don’t be fooled by ‘ User or nicknames’ on the cyberspace. You could be spewing nonsense in the wrong direction.
    I think Malaysia should follow Indonesia & Thailand where everybody use names which does not identifies ethnicity. You

    Now, lets move over to another topic.
    SHOULD WE EXTRADITE KIRAM ? (wanabe king)

    Well, I am against it. The following is what I think, in Malay though.
    Here goes.

    Dia ni dah tak lama dah. (Kata2 Tun Dr.M))
    Kalau extradite dia kat sinii, buat habis beras saja.
    Menyusahkan penjaga lokap dan kena escort. Buat bertambah kes di Mahkamah saja. Banyak kes lain yang belum selesai. Kalau Karpal Singh jadi peguambela dia, macam mana? Lagi sakit hati.

    Nanti diadakan pula, bicara-dalam-bicara, timbul pula masaalah technical untuk nenyangkalkan dakwaan bahawa beliau berhak sebagai Sultan Sulu. Kita pula yang kena beri bukti bahawa beliau bukan waris Sultan sebenar. Silap-silap kita yang kena hantar pakar ke Filipina untuk korek kubur dan ambil DNA Sultan yang dah lama mangkat. Kalau di sahkan tidak benar, mereka akan panggil Dr.Pornthip untuk buat analisa kedua. Kalau di sahkan DNA sepadan, kita terpaksa pula mengiktiraf Kesultanan dia. Lagi berat kes, sampai bila nak berakhir bicara pun, tiada siapa boleh tentukan.

    Jangan terkejut, Karpal boleh jadikan isu politik dan terlepas dari tuduhan. Kita pula terpaksa bayar RM200 juta sebagai ganti-rugi. Tentu sudah, Karpal akan dapat komisyen. Peliwat pun boleh terlepas, tak ingat.

    Dalam tahanan nanti, kena sediakan ambulan bawa pergi dialysis, setiap 2 atau 3 hari. Orang awam pula akan marah, di potong queue guna machine. Silap-silap kita kena beli machine satu untuk dia. Mahal tuuuu…..

    Nanti minta dilayan pula sebagai Raja di penjara. Kita pula terpaksa bina ‘cell di Raja’. Kalau tidak, Misuari akan ugut untuk hantar askarnya ke Sabah. Keadaan di Sabah akan sentiasa di ancam. Setiap kali bawa pergi hospital/Mahkamah, pemberita ambil gambar. Dia berlakon lebam biji mata (sebelah yang elok) dan tidak bermaya. Nanti tuduh kerajaan siksa pulak. Masyarakat Sulu Malaysia pula marah dan buat demo kat Semporna! Oohhh…jangan cari bala.

    Dalam perbicaraan yang lama, tiba-tiba dia meninggal dunia. Di tuduh pula conspirasi UMNO meracun Kiram. Di buat pula demo ‘Bersih Sulu”‘. Haru-biru kita nanti. Mana Najib nak ada masa untuk melaksanakan segala transfromasi yang telah di rancang? Akhirnya, PRU14 akan tiba dan perbicaraan masih juga belum selesai.

    Nanti Al-Juburi dan Pakatan Rakyat akan jadikan modal hentam kerajaan. Bodoh punya BN, bersendiwara dengan menghabiskan duit pembayar cukai keatas penjenayah yang dah nak mampus.

    Lebih baik kita biar pada Filipina saja, daripada mendokong biawak hidup ini. Biar Tuhan menghitung dosanya kat neraka.

    So, better be careful of what you ask for. (A phrase from OutSyed the Boxi)

    RD.

  22. RD. Mar 8,2013 9:30 PM

    Yes, everybody in Malaysia is an immigrant. The only difference is, who was the latest. These are the ones that are very vocal when newer immigrants are granted citizenship. Their anger will be more intense when BN gains more support from, especially Indians. They will become desperate and will resort to treacherous means, even to the extent of inciting hatred among the Malays & Indian.

    One of them comes with a fake Indian, named ‘Vinnan’.

    I like browsing the comment section on pro-BN blogs. (SAA, Rocky, Zamkata, STL, BigCat…etc). I notice this ‘Vinnan’ who always spewed racist remarks towards Malays and their institution. Some of his comments were not published by the blogs owner. I do not know whether ‘he’ was paid to post comment or from Komtar or Wentworth hotel. After reading many of his insult, as a Malay I was really pissed off with this Indian’ named ‘Vinnan’. In-fact some commentators replied to this Vinnan by insulting the Indian communities, outright.

    One day he spewed nonsense on Royalties by writing ‘Laja’. I started to search and read back all his other rantings. By the tone of his writings, I had a hunch that this ‘Vinnan’ is actually, a Chinese. Who knows, he might then reply to his own racist comment, using an Anon or Malay name, bashing the Indians in return.

    Therefore, the Malays & Indians must be aware of this insidious tactic by some racist Chinese to create disharmony amongst them.
    This treacherous act is more obvious when BN is gaining back support from Indians.
    This Chinese(with a fake Indian name) is a racist who dislikes Indians, Malays and everyone who is non-Chinese, except the white man.

    I think, this Bensolomon is also one of them. Maybe he thought all Muslims hate Jews. To angst the Maaly more, he faked a Jew.
    The Malays are not Arabs and we have no grudge towards moderate Jews.

    May God help us, Peace loving Malaysian

  23. bensolomon Mar 8,2013 8:43 PM

    Amin Tan,
    UMNO has killed MCA and MIC. They are dead. The majority of Non-Malays in Penisular Malaysia dont support Barisan Nasional anymore. From the last election we know that that the majority of Penisular Malaysians supported the opposition. I am stating facts. Why the non malays dont support UMNO that can be debated for a long time but the bottom line is UMNO has lost the confidence of the Majority of the Non-Malays.
    The Fact that Hindus are angry at Khir Toyo an BN for destroying their temples is a fact( The son of an Indonesian Immigrant who was given a blue IC and the son Kir Toyol became the leader of the Malays in Selangor. Imagine a Indon being the Menteri Besar of Selangor). Thats why Hindraf came out in Full Force. ( Hindraf is Hindu Rights Action Force). Thats a fact. Another Fact is that they received Moral support form Right Wing Hindu Groups in India. The Hindus and Indians have not forgotten that they have been enslaved by BN and their Temples Destroyed, thats a fact ( Go and read Hindu blogs and find out their feelings).
    The Chinese are not happy with UMNO ( Go and read Chinese blogs and see what they write). I am just stating the realities happening now.

    Now to Tun Tuah
    Malays are imigrants in this land. The original people of this land is the Orang Asli not the Malays. The Malays stole this land from the orang asli thousands of years ago. When the more powerful Chinese and Indian Immigrants came, they had sympathy on the Malays thats why they did not exterminate the Malays. We all know how the White Man exterminated most of the Red-Indian in the USA and the Abrogines in Australia and New Zealand. The Chinese and Indian Immigrants are much more clever than the stupid Malays. Because they had pity on the Malays being stupid, they married Malay Women. Men from Kerala, Tamil Nadu and China married Malay women and produced the current Malay leaders. The Original Malays are stupid and weak. Parameswara was an Ethnik Indian Prince with Malay followers. The Taming Sari was a mystical Hindu Keris given by a Hindu warrior from Majapahit to Hang Tuah. On the Original Taming Sari was inscribed sanskrit writings from the Hindu Vedas. When Hang Tuah held the Taming Sari and said Tak Akan Hilang Melayu di Dunia, what he meant was as long as the Hindu Powers in the Taming Sari Existed, the Malays would be safe. But too bad now all of you have become Muslims thus the promise is no longer valid. But maybe in the Future, stonger Immigrants who dont have the pity of the Chinese and Indians will chase all the Malays out of this land or even commit genocide on the Malays. Beware.

    To the MotherrFucker Tired
    Its better you go and fuckkkk your mother or your sister than shouting here. Incest is common among Malays

  24. Tired Mar 8,2013 11:11 AM

    Salam, Tun.

    Bensoloman,
    “bensolomon March 8, 2013 at 3:05 AM HUMPTY DUMPTY”

    1. Bessoloman, is it? Yeah, right! You know this blog is visited by Muslims mostly; so, you purposely chosen this pseudonym to incite hatred towards the Jewish ppl whom you are fully aware do not sit well with Muslims! Clever ploy, but the only problem is: you’re not Jewish, and you’re the real haters! You’re just an ingrate, and now, the #1 public enemy here, and everywhere else, depending on your motive. Hence, dog like you, if found, should be hung from a tree for all your likes to view! Btw, in Jewish languages, “bensolomon” means “sons of solomon”, whereas in Arabic, the same is equated to “Bin Sulaiman.” Alas, in your case, nearest you would ever be being Jewish IS THE COLOUR OF YOUR ASS! Now, don’t be calling me racist, ya hear? Because if you happened to have had been reading my comments, you know that I refrained from using ‘the race card’ in all my comments! Anyway, enough said. Now, let’s go to your comments (or were they, you f@#king stinking dog?!)

    2. Before we begun, I must admit I had noticed your comment indeed (which you had gleefully and proudly pasted here), but I choose to ignore it, as I found it ‘jijik!’ (I’m sure you know what that word means, as after all, you’re a bl**dy f**king Malaysian!). However, I couldn’t ignore it again this time! You’re gloating, and you thought that you’ve one upped us! Sorry, you ingrate, you didn’t, not to me, at least!

    3. Frankly, there’s not much substance in your so called comment actually. They’re just cliché, if you ask me. After all, ingrates like you will almost always certain to capitalize on adversity, whichever and whenever it is in YOUR THICK HEAD that you view one you could capitalize upon. In fact, I was half expecting that more ingrates like you would submit their conspiracy theories on ‘the failing of this mighty nation’, anyways. Sad!

    4. Since you’re long winded, which trait Jewish ppl do not possess, which also gave you away as a Jewish, I’m going to be a bit selective in my reply to your many intelligent statements, like thus: “UMNO has alienated the majority of the Chinese and Indian Malaysians who previously supported Barisan Nasianol.” Really? Why just “the breaking of more than 100 Hindu Temples in Selangor?” Why didn’t you include those other thousands of temples that were being built everywhere be that on government or private lands so much so local councils and private landowners couldn’t cope to demolish? Capiche? Why didn’t you include also those numbers of mosques, suraus, and other temples being demolished? Therefore, your argument ‘doesn’t hold water’ and warrants attention, as it wasn’t based on fact but prejudices.

    5. Next, “the Cowhead Incident in Shah Alam with our Hishamuddin.” So what? You’re just being selective, was it not?! There were worse incidents, which you are aware fully, and which examples I choose not to elaborate, as I’m not prejudice like you!

    6. Next, you mentioned,” Then you guys started harassing and demonising the Christians in Malaysia by using Utusan Melayu, Perkasa etc and harping on the Allah issue.” Hello brader?! Do not you know that this matter is still under consideration at the Federal Court? Do not you also know that it is sub-judice to even discuss it, and let alone has a decision on it…Hello? Anybody home? Anyway, if you have been reading some of those comments on the same here, you would notice that ‘the Jury is still out…’ Could this be another clever ploy of your to garner cheap support here?! Cheap trick for cheap support, I’ll say!

    7. Next,” Now You guys are having a fight with the Sulu/Moro fighters and perhaps soon with the Philippines if Aquino loses the election in May in the Philippines. I wrote a long time back in the Allah Controversy Section of this blog. I reprint it for our mutual benefit.” (sic) This is life, bro! Just like what’s happening all over the world. Why, does this incident excite you so much so you’re using it as an exception to a rule? Pleaseees…Use better adjective the next time around, will ya?

    8. Next, “The British Gave Power (made the Army mainly Malay) to the Malays because they were confronting the Communist in South-East Asia, and many of the Chinese in this land were supportive of the communist. Sabah and Sarawak joined Malaya in creating Malaysia with certain agreements, which did not include the provision to change the demography of the State of Sabah by granting large numbers of citizenship to foreigners, the Non-Muslim Kadazans are now a minority in their own state. What will the western powers think about Malay management of the Country that they gave independence to. Think carefully.” (sic) So? What’s your problem? The whole world even as we speak is acknowledging our achievement thus far, and you’re worried? Besides, who cares what other ppl are saying about us! We’re a sovereign country, and we have rights to govern our country as how we see it fits! As with all free country, those who are not happy here, they’re free to go. But again, would any other country wants ingrates like you? Beats me!

    9. Next, ”Changing the demography of a country giving large numbers of citesenship to foreigners without agreement from the people of the land, is not considered an internal matter of the country. This matter may lead to foreign intervention in the coming future. Today France is actively engaged in military activity of its former colonies, we have seen their action in Ivory Coast, Libya and currently Mali. The British too seems to have a appetitite for military overtures. If we are conquared again by Western Powers, the Westerners will hand over power to the Non-Muslims because of the ongoing Clash of Civilizations and their distrust of Muslim Goverments.” (sic) Forgets the British, French, and what not’s lar bro! Didn’t the government do the same thing to our ancestors before we achieve independent? And as a result, that was how you, I, and all of us non-natives got to become Malaysians? Why so alarming? Any regrets? If yes, go! If no, be nice, please?

    10. Ok, this the fun part: you pasted the following: –
    (a) “Feb 20 2013 – The heirs of the Sultan of Sulu…”
     My response? Why the USA and not their own govt, the Philippines? Don’t you think it is strange? At least, I do. It is because ‘the Sultanate’ has been blown of its existence since 1917; that is why probably. Do you something that I do not know about?

    (b) Then you pasted this, “Feb23 2013 – According to the Philippine Daily Inquirer,…”
     My response? I agree with Pres. Aquino’s suggestion. After all, we’ve lost ‘Batu Putih’ and gained ‘our part of Spratly’s Islands’; so, I thinks the ICJ is fair. Don’t you reckon?

    (c ) And you pasted, “March 3 2013 http://www.tribune.net.ph Meanwhile, Bayan…”
     My Response? As with PM Najib, Pres. Aquino has detractors too. With those ppl, even if “Pres Aquino was to have lunch with The Pope”, they would say that, “Pres Aquino is lobbying The Pope for a seat at The Vatican!!!” *sigh*

    (d) And you pasted, “March 3, 2013 The Philippine government may take a Sulu…”
     My response? The Phillipines has as much rights as Malaysia to seek legal redress on her rights. Let us go to the ICJ, already!

    (e) And FINALLY, you pasted, “March 2, 2013 “I am afraid there will be a civil war…”
     My response? No, I do not think so! To those neutralised Filipinos, Sabah, in particular, and Malaysia, in general, is like heavens on earth! Do you not think so? You would think that those Filipinos would risk all of this, and return to where they came from? Nah, I do not think so! Besides, was this how our ancestors were neutralized as Malaysians, exactly?? No? Never mind. Nonetheless, I would think that if our ancestors could rise from their graves, they would tell us today that WE ARE A BUNCH OF INGRATES!!!

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.

  25. mubarakchan Mar 8,2013 11:08 AM

    Tun

    For the Blogger on the Berjaya question. My answer, Sir, is that I mind my own business. Hence, I come this far.

    Vote BN. All Malaysians, Especially the Malaysian Chinese. The Opposition is just an itinerant performing troupe who needs injections of Vitamin B (Bullshit) now and then.

  26. amin tan Mar 8,2013 10:52 AM

    Dear Tun,

    Please allow me to quote bensolomon as below,

    “”bensolomonMarch 8, 2013 at 3:05 AM | Permalink
    dear Tun,
    UMNO has alienated the majority of the Chinese and Indian Malaysians who previously supported Barisan Nasianol. Today MCA and MIC is dead and its a miracle if they can be resurrected. By the breaking of more than 100 Hindu Temples in Selangor you guys caused the Hindus of Malaysia to become very angry ( and on top of that you have the Cowhead Incident in Shah Alam with our Hishamuddin). Then you guys started harassing and demonising the Christians in Malaysia by using Utusan Melayu, Perkasa etc and harping on the Allah issue. This has caused a lot of East Malaysian Christian Bumiputeras to view you guys as Anti Christian. Now You guys are having a fight with the Sulu/Moro fighters and perhaps soon with the Philippines if Aquino loses the election in May in the Phillipines. I wrote a long time back in the Allah Controversy Section of this bllog. I reprint it for our mutual benefit.””

    Dear Mr bensolomon,

    You have claimed UMNO have alienated the majority of the Chinese and Indian Malaysians. This may be partially true. This is due to provocation by the non Malays as a direct results of Anwar Ibrahim instigation and support. Previously before DSAI embark on his quest to wrest power for himself, we never heard of non Malays attacking Special Privileges of the Malays, Islam and blatant accusation of corruption in UMNO. Why are you so insensitive , racist and bigoted to accuse and provoke and incite animosity among Malays and non Malays in our harmonious society. Now you seem to be on the side of the foreign armed intruders in Sabah. In the event an open war break out , as you say after May, between Malaysia and the Philippines , I suggest all the traitors and potential enemy informers like you should be rounded up and confine at Pulau Jerejak in Penang awaiting American helicopter rescue.

    amin tan

  27. Tuntuah Mar 8,2013 10:49 AM

    A pariah will still be a pariah.
    a sepet still be a sepet.

    and that is the truth.
    chinese makes millions from the death.
    they sell kubur, they sell everything. u know…
    so it is a sin to earn money from the death HBT?

    hbt n solomon.
    i can gave up sabah for sultan sulu due to history.
    so based on history as well can u both gave up ur ic and go back to ur mainland or continent? what is ur excuses this time?

    solomon.
    the kuil hindu is more than masjid in malaysia. and a lot of kuil hindu dibuat dgn cara haram. i dont understand why u need to built your kuil cara haram? i believed ur religion dont ask u to do it that way. are u guys stubborn enough and not to follow ur religion teaching? well pariah still a pariah.

  28. amin tan Mar 8,2013 9:47 AM

    Salam Tun,

    Izinkzan saya memetik posting Saudara Wajaperak seperti bi bawah

    “”wajaperak
    March 8, 2013 at 8:12 AM | Permalink
    Assallammualaikum Tun..
    Terima kasih dan saya minta maaf..

    [HBT
    Earning money over the dead bodies is what Amin Tan is interested with?]

    Kau ini binatang!..Berambus dari sini..syoh..syoh!!!..

    Maafkan saya Tun..””

    Saudara Wajaperak,

    Terima kasih banyak2 kerana membantu saya. Sepatutnya HBT 456 juga menunjukkan semangat patriotisma di masa anggota2 keselamatan kita sedang bertarung nyawa mempertahanan kedaulatan Malaysia tercinta, bukan bersimpati dengan pengganas. Saya pun rasa terpanggil ingin angkat senapang menuju ke Lahat Datu. Orang2 pendurhaka, racist dan tidak patriotik seperti imammalaysia dan bensolomon harus ditarik kerakyatan dan diusir ke Amerika.

    amin tan

  29. wajaperak Mar 8,2013 8:12 AM

    Assallammualaikum Tun..
    Terima kasih dan saya minta maaf..

    [HBT
    Earning money over the dead bodies is what Amin Tan is interested with?]

    Kau ini binatang!..Berambus dari sini..syoh..syoh!!!..

    Maafkan saya Tun..

  30. RD. Mar 8,2013 8:09 AM

    Dear HBT456

    Is this the real you?
    In the old days, I like reading you comments, with slight sarcasm, though.
    What have got into you?
    Why become so rude?
    You are afraid of Pakatan losing? Aren’t you?

  31. HBT456 Mar 8,2013 3:10 AM

    Even the Filipino maids have participated in street demonstration in Hongkong to pressure HK government to grant them as citizen of Hongkong, will High Court of Hongkong allows them to do so?

    If I am the high court Judge, will I allows MAIDS to be citizen of Malaysia?

    I won’t.

    Why?

    If I were to allow that, it means I am only interested to lick UMNO’s shoes.

  32. bensolomon Mar 8,2013 3:05 AM

    dear Tun,
    UMNO has alienated the majority of the Chinese and Indian Malaysians who previously supported Barisan Nasianol. Today MCA and MIC is dead and its a miracle if they can be resurrected. By the breaking of more than 100 Hindu Temples in Selangor you guys caused the Hindus of Malaysia to become very angry ( and on top of that you have the Cowhead Incident in Shah Alam with our Hishamuddin). Then you guys started harassing and demonising the Christians in Malaysia by using Utusan Melayu, Perkasa etc and harping on the Allah issue. This has caused a lot of East Malaysian Christian Bumiputeras to view you guys as Anti Christian. Now You guys are having a fight with the Sulu/Moro fighters and perhaps soon with the Philippines if Aquino loses the election in May in the Phillipines. I wrote a long time back in the Allah Controversy Section of this bllog. I reprint it for our mutual benefit.
    ” February 2, 2013 THE “ALLAH” CONTROVERSY
    The British Gave Power ( made the Army mainly Malay) to the Malays because they were confronting the Communist in South-East Asia, and many of the Chinese in this land were supportive of the communist. Sabah and Sarawak joined Malaya in creating Malaysia with certain agreements, which did not include the provision to change the demography of the State of Sabah by granting large numbers of citizenship to foreigners, the Non-Muslim Kadazans are now a minority in their own state. What will the western powers think about Malay management of the Country that they gave independence to. Think carefully. Changing the demography of a country giving large numbers of citesenship to foreigners without agreement from the people of the land, is not considered an internal matter of the country. This matter may lead to foreign intervention in the coming future. Today France is actively engaged in military activity of its former colonies, we have seen their action in Ivory Coast, Libya and currently Mali. The British too seems to have a appetitite for military overtures. If we are conquared again by Western Powers, the Westerners will hand over power to the Non-Muslims because of the ongoing Clash of Civilizations and their distrust of Muslim Goverments. ”

    Now lets look at the News coming from the Phillipines Newspapers.

    Feb 20 2013
    The heirs of the Sultan of Sulu are considering asking the help of the United States in the ongoing standoff between government forces and armed Filipinos in a Sabah village,former senator Santanina Rasul, one of the heirs who lays claim over Sabah, which is located on the northern portion of the island of Borneo, said.

    Feb23 2013
    According to the Philippine Daily Inquirer, President Benigno Aquino ordered the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) and the Office of the President to study the legal validity of the sultanate’s claim to Sabah.As Sulu sultan Jamalul Kiram’s militants continue their standoff with Malaysian authorities in Lahad Datu, Sabah, Manila has deployed six naval ships to the waters off Sulu and Tawi-Tawi to contain the conflict.

    March 3 2013 http://www.tribune.net.ph
    Meanwhile, Bayan Muna Rep. Neri Colmenares charged the Aquino administration for mishandling the standoff in Sabah that resulted to unconfirmed number of casualties after a firefight broke out yesterday between the Malaysian military and “royal army” of the heirs of Sulu Sultanate.
    “Our claim of Sabah is very strong especially since Malaysia paid rent to the Sultanate as early as during the British occupation. In fact it is as strong as our claim over Panatag shoals. It was a wrong move for the Aquino government to distance itself from the claim even portraying the claim as nuisance and threatening the Sultan’s men with arrest when they return,” he said. “Aquino should have asserted our claim in the same way that we asserted our territorial integrity over Panatag Shoal,” said Colmeranes.“The Philippines and the Sultanate, more than any entity, have solid historical and legal basis for claiming Sabah. Sabah is within the Philippine territory and Aquino should have had asserted along with our Muslim brothers and sisters our sovereignty,”.“The attack of the Malaysian military is an attack on Filipinos which requires accountability” Colmenares explained
    Zambales Rep. Mitos Magsaysay, who is also running for senator under UNA, said that it is about time the administration says where they stand on the Sabah issue.
    “Are they with us Filipinos or with the Malaysians? Will they just allow our brothers to be killed there and do nothing? Is this how the government show their love for our Muslim brothers?

    March 3, 2013
    The Philippine government may take a Sulu rebel group’s ownership claim on Sabah to be adjudicated at world court even though the Borneo state in now part of Malaysia.
    Leila de Lima, secretary in the Philippines’ Department of Justice (DOJ) was reported saying in Manila yesterday that the government had not ruled out taking the territorial dispute to the International Court of Justice in the Hague, but was studying carefully the case as it did not want to strain its friendship with Malaysia.
    “That is among the options we are looking into. Of course there are international fora available so we’re considering that,” she was quoted as saying by the Philippine Star news portal.The Sultanate of Sulu was founded in 1457 and is believed to exist as a sovereign nation for at least 442 years. Malaysia, which is currently brokering peace talks between Manila and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, still pays a token to the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu around 6,300 ringgits each year.

    March 2, 2013
    “I am afraid there will be a civil war in Sabah because thousands of Bangsamoro are residing in Sabah,” Gapul Hajirul, political chief of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), was reported as saying today by the Philippine Star news portal.

    Well read carefully what I have presented here. Tun you are mistaken if you think the “others” mudah lupa. You have said previously that ” Melayu Mudah Lupa” but you know very well that the Chinese, Indians and White Man have very long lasting memories. The Western Powers dislike you especialy your rhetoric and worse still when you prevented them from making money here by changing the rules of the game when you were prime minister. They are waiting for payback time ( They waited for 10 years to kill Osama bin Laden). They have not forgotten, neither has Mrs Hillary Clinton who is quite close to Datuk Ambiga who you guys were demonising mercylessly. The CIA may be involved in the Future.

  33. HBT456 Mar 8,2013 2:40 AM

    May Sir Mubarak Chan tells me how much Berjaya Group is spending in chedet as A & P?

  34. HBT456 Mar 8,2013 1:35 AM

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/criminal-charges-await-sulu-sultan-royal-army-over-sabah-siege/

    Even the Filipino maids have participated in street demonstration in Hongkong to pressure HK government to grant them as citizen of Hongkong.

    Will High Court of Hongkong allows them to do so?

  35. HBT456 Mar 7,2013 11:26 PM

    Earning money over the dead bodies is what Amin Tan is interested with?

    LOL.

    Money like this, Mr Obama also not interested ler.

    If not, why USA President, Mr Obama does not come to Malaysia after millions were spent to lobby him?

  36. amin tan Mar 7,2013 10:28 PM

    Dear Tun,

    Please allow me to quote Sibotak as below,

    “”Sibotak
    March 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM | Permalink
    IT IS VERY WRONG OF MALAYSIA
    VERY WRONG OF JOHORE
    TO ALLOW FOREIGNERS TO BUY OUR LAND AT FREEHOLD
    NOT JUST VERY WRONG , NONE IN THE WORLD PRACTISE SUCH
    NOT IN THE NAME OF DEVELOPMENT””

    Tuan Sibotak,

    You say to allow foreigners to buy our land at freehold, not just very wrong, none in the world practise such. Where do you get this idea? You are wrong. If you have money you can buy freehold land any where in the world. You can buy up the whole Orchard Road in Singapore, you can buy properties in Tokyo, London , New York. I have a Malay friend who owns a country home at the suburb of London. The Manor has 13 rooms sitting on 9 acres of country land. My family used to spend one month of holidays at his house. The house is worth 9 millions pounds. We do not want to keep jungle because Sulu terrorists can come and hide there. If We we have money, we buy some more guided missiles to bomb the terrorists.
    Please do not simply say anything without knowing the facts.

    amin tan

  37. HBT456 Mar 7,2013 10:03 PM

    They are more worried about the expensive war.

    They are not worry about the lost of human lives.

    Everyday, our people are killed in road accidents.

    Everyday, our people are being robbed.

    What is our KDN doing there?

    They are more interested to lobby themselves as the next PM kut.

  38. alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi Mar 7,2013 9:58 PM

    Salam, dear Tun!

    As indicated I have forwarded your Humpty-Dumpty-Posting to the President of the Federal Republic of Germany and to the German Chancellor, to Leaders and Members of major Political Parties in Germany as well as to the Editors in Chief of most of the relevant Daily and Weekly Newspapers and Magazines in Germany and in the German speaking part of Switzerland. I have also sent it to some Bank CEOs and to a number of our business partners together with my following comment, namely:

    QUOTE
    Tun Dr. Mahathir was Prime Minister of Malaysia from 1983 to 2003. Since approximately 5 (five) years he operates his blog http://chedet.cc/blog/. In the early years of his career chedet was already his pseudonym for publication in local publications in Malaysia and in Singapore.

    During the years 1997/98 Malaysia had a recession, the Economic Down Turn, as it was then called. This took place at the same time as the disastrous economic situation in Russia at the time and the devaluation of the Rubel which in major part was then attributed to operators like George Soro and their Hedge Fonds who with their investments had bet on the further fall of the Rubel and had made enormous amounts of money this way, now intending to do the same with Malaysia, betting on the further downfall of the Malaysian currently.

    The IMF, International Monetary Fund, had offered Malaysia conditional help to overcome this economic crisis. But Dr. Mahathir had rejected this at the time. Instead he expelled the Hedge Fonds from Malaysia and has pledged the Malaysian currency, the Ringgit, with a fix rate of exchange of 3,80 to the USD, similar to what the Hong Kong Dollar had already had for decades and is still operating this way today.

    Doing this, on one had he left the Hedge Fonds with no business in Malaysia and on the other hand he gave the local industry a solid base again for their export business – MYR 3,80 = 1 USD.

    The economy recovered quickly and today Malaysia is in better shape than many of the countries of th European Union, with grows rates of around 5% and more and no unemployment to speak of.

    To have brought this underway and to have accompanied it throughout as Prime Minister until the day it brought the desired success is what qualifies Dr. Mahathir to make the comments to be found under http://chedet.cc/?p=930#more-930 and to give the “gratuitous advise” he there says that he doesn’t even address to the Europeans but rather to countries that have somehow survived the “financial Tsunami” and whos systems are still intact now, telling them not to lean on Europe for Europe has no monopoly for wisdom.

    In the initial text of his comments he says that Europe currently finds itself in a “State of Denial”. The sender does not take the trouble to translate these comments which are redacted in English language for he is of the opinion that all he directs these comments to are sufficiently mastering English, thus avoiding any loss in translation of the brilliant ideas and thoughts of the author Dr. Mahathir Mohamad.

    What an “Elder Statesman” says here is expressed in relative simplicity so that all his Asian readers -to whom English is only a second language- understand it well. This simplicity in expression though doesn’t in any way diminish the fact that he is right in all of what he says to it’s full extent. What he says there is certainly also easily understandable to more complicated thinking individuals and it may in actual fact be path-leading to them which is the very reason why this is transmitted here!

    Whoever has some saying anywhere in Europe should take these thoughts to heart for to bring Europe back on track and trail can only be done this way and not with accounting-acrobatics as is still widely believed. Europe must make real money again and created real wealth, she must divert from prophecies that promise miraculous multiplication of monies which never existed, she must dissolve herself from the State of Denial and face her problems again with eyes wide open.

    Europe in general and Germany in particular know how to start anew from scratch. Seemingly the time for this has come again. If Third World Countries, like in Europe Malaysia is considered being one, are already saying this, there must be something to it!

    Here are the comments of Tun Dr. Mahathir Moahndad dated 1 March 2013 as published http://chedet.cc/?p=930#more-930
    UNQUOTE

    Trusting this finds you well I wish to remain, as always,
    with best regards for your Wellbeing and Good Health

    Alfred Willner
    alfed.willner&euromotors.ltd.gi

  39. HBT456 Mar 7,2013 9:55 PM

    http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/3/7/nation/20130307212311&sec=nation

    YAB, you have been voicing out your thoughts all these years to the Muslim Community as OIC President.

    Can Malaysia’s majority race be elected as OIC President after this war on “Penganas” (means Terrorism in English) as spoken by the defense minister elected by UMNO’s 5th PM?

    Am I sad about this situation?

    I am not sad because UMNO has done that to the Chinese because of power to get rich 1st.

    Therefore, if UMNO has done that to Sulu Sultan, the poorest Sultan in the world, how other Sultans looks at the PM?

    If the Sulu Sultanate lost hope, they may decided to join Al-Queda, just like Osama bin Ladin as crusaders of “Allah”, they may seek revenge.

    They may not target KL.

    What if they target Langkawi or Sempoena similar to Bali, what would you say then, YAB?

    This is human nature.

    Even when a tiger is being forced into a wall, it might jumped over the war.

  40. HBT456 Mar 7,2013 9:09 PM

    Wrong?

    Then why you opened the land for development in the 1st place, sibotak?

  41. sibotak Mar 7,2013 7:53 PM

    IT IS VERY WRONG OF MALAYSIA
    VERY WRONG OF JOHORE
    TO ALLOW FOREIGNERS TO BUY OUR LAND AT FREEHOLD
    NOT JUST VERY WRONG , NONE IN THE WORLD PRACTISE SUCH
    NOT IN THE NAME OF DEVELOPMENT

    AN ICNH WILL LEADS TO INVASION
    THE FIRST STEPS WILL LEADS TO A THOUSANDS STEPS
    A THOUSAND STEPS WILL LEADS TO A MILIION
    WHERE DO WE GO NEXT

  42. mubarakchan Mar 7,2013 4:29 PM

    Tun

    The poem covers overt and covert intruders. They are all there including Daddy !

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. We will arrive at a new dawn with the BN as led by the UMNO with the 14 component parties. If we do not stand up and be counted, no one in the Universe will care a damn for us all. It is on TV every night ! That’s the sad truth !

  43. amin tan Mar 7,2013 3:27 PM

    Dear Tun,

    Bravo Mr Mubarakchan,
    Such moving and patriotic poem. Congratulations Mr Mubarakchan for a beautiful patriotic poem. For once you left behind your favourite sugar daddy or fail to mention the brilliant Datuk Lee Kuan yew and Daddy Action Party with bank accounts and folks or family members working there. Singapore is a runaway failure in human terms and Sabah (particularly) Lahad Datu is a runaway success in military terms.

    “”mubarakchan
    March 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM | Permalink
    Tun

    IN HONOUR OF OUR FALLEN HEROES

    ARISE, ARISE, ARISE,””

    amin tan

  44. mubarakchan Mar 7,2013 1:29 PM

    Tun

    IN HONOUR OF OUR FALLEN HEROES

    ARISE, ARISE, ARISE,
    MY FELLOW COUNTRY MEN AND WOMEN,
    UNITE, UNITE, UNITE,
    ALL YE MALAYS, BUMIPUTRAS, CHINESE, INDIANS AND ALL,
    ALL YE MUSLIMS AND NON-MUSLIMS,
    TO SWEEP THESE MURDEROUS INTRUDERS IN JUNGLE GREEN OR TUXEDOS ARMED WITH
    AK 47 OR PAPER ARROWS,
    FROM OUT BELOVED SHORE,
    WE MUST REPAY IN KIND,
    WERE THEY VICTIMS OF UNBRIDLED GREED FOR POWER
    OR A QUIRK OF HISTORICAL FATE ?
    LET NO BARNACLES GROW IN OUR HEARTS,
    LET OUR COMPASSION FLOW IN A FLOOD,
    LET LOOSE OUR HEART STRINGS,
    LET OUR TEARS FLOW FREELY
    FROM OUR HEARTS AND MINDS,
    IN THEIR HONOUR,
    ARISE, ARISE, ARISE,
    ALL YE MALAYS, BUMIPUTRAS, CHINESE, INDIANS AND ALL,
    MUSLIMS AND NON-MUSLIMS AND ALL,
    UNITE, UNITE, UNITE,
    FOR OUR FALLEN HEROES,
    WE ALL SALUTE YOU !

  45. Tired Mar 7,2013 11:18 AM

    P.s.
    Salam, Tun.

    Tumpang lalu; terima kasih, Tun!

    Tuan Haji Amin Tan,

    You are welcome, and thank you all the same. However no ‘Mr’, please? As for THAT lunatic, just leave him alone. With his traits and demeanour, he is neither Chinese nor Malay, but he is wanting, that is for sure!

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.

  46. HBT456 Mar 6,2013 11:24 PM

    This war is not to show the westerners how great we are.

    The Lahat Datu is for voters of all states in Malaysia except Sarawak to decide in this ballot boxes who should there support.

    Why spit on Tian Chua when ex-armies can show their buntut?

    Change is inevitable especially in the Capital city.

    Welcome to KL, Alfred.

  47. alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi Mar 6,2013 9:37 PM

    Salam, dear Tun!

    In an earlier posting I requested your permission to distribute in Europe what you have posted here. Unlike your reaction on another posting of mine to which you had responded directly by subsequently posting a LETTER TO ALFRED WILLNER here, you have not responded my latest request.

    I take it that this is because in the PREFACE of this blog you are saying …

    “this site is dedicated to publishing my writings as and when I am able to pen my thoughts and opinions. Interested parties, including the Press, may reproduce or quote materials published with the condition that they are credited to CHEDET.CC ”

    … which implies that you do generally grant permission for your postings to be reproduced or quoted and I will admit that I had not paid any particular attention to these explicit words before.

    Now that I have seen them I will take your permission to distribute your thoughts in Europe as granted and I will therefor proceed to distribute your Humpty Dumpty thoughts there. In due course in time I will provide you with a list of addresses I have forwarded your posting too, together with an English translation of my comments thereto to the addressees.

    It is my considerate opinion that your views must be seen and appreciated by People In Charge in Europe, for what you are saying has lots of merits and, what is more, you having successfully taken Malaysia out of its own recession following of the Economic Down Turn of the years 1997/98 illustrates and demonstrates that you are talking with profound knowledge of cause -off lived experience as it were- which is very EXEMPLARY to EUROPEANS!

    With my wishes for Alll the Best and Good Health I remain, as always,
    very sincerely yours

    Alfred Willner
    alfred.willner@euromotors.tld.gi

  48. Age_of_Enlightenment Mar 6,2013 9:26 PM

    Salam Tun,

    HBT456 writes :-


    Age_of_Enlightenment,

    International Court of Justice will not entertain ancestral land in Penang, Sarawak, Sabah nor in Selangor in a democratic and independent country like Malaysia.

    Only general election will solve these problems.

    Yes, I agreed, war is not the way to solve these ancestral land disputes.

    Well, okay, but hurry up with the political process, elections and so on, as people, including security personnel are dying by the day.

    I am not suggesting ICJ anyway, that takes too long, people are at war, i meant external political influence to solve this as it involves ASEAN nations, not only the various races.

    It is complicated, well beyond my understanding but i understand war and war is not to be prolonged, and in fact should be avoided at all cost.

    It has been dragged on for far too long. It will be very expensive.

  49. PAShit Mar 6,2013 9:15 PM

    salam Tun,

    Tian Chua the conniving moron is hot news lately. I have always hated this amateur photoshop editor for his stupid fake photo of Najib with Altantuya. This poor excuse of a politician, the Batu Member of Parliament is indeed a shameful disgrace to his constituents who voted for him in the last PRU.
    This just show the low quality and deceiving mentality of the opposition in this country who will even sell their own mothers for Putrajaya.
    Let’s check out the Buku Jinggay and try to find if there’s any mention of hudud. THERE’S NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF HUDUD IN THE PR MONKEYFESTO!
    Why there is not even a mention about the advancement of the Indian community in that jinggay book.
    SO WHAT THE HELL ARE THE TOK LEBAIS AND INDIANS IN PAKATAN SYAITAN GONNA DO BOUT THIS?
    By the way no sane or proper Muslim will dare vote for PR who has a Ketua Umum with questionable sexual habits unless they are in it for personal gains and positions.

    JIKA ADA ORANG YANG MENGAKU DIRINYA ISLAM DALAM PAKATAN SYAITAN SANGGUP BERKETUAKAN SEORANG PELIWAT TEGAR MAKA ANDA SEMUA ADALAH UMAT NABI LUT!
    NABI SAW SENDIRI TIDAK MENGAKU PELIWAT SEBAGAI UMAT BAGINDA!

    PAKATAN SYAITAN INI SEBENARNYA SATU PAKATAN JAHAT YANG SANGGUP BUAT APA SAHAJA DEMI KUASA POLITIK! SAYA SERU SUPAYA RAKYAT MARHAEN JGN MENGUNDI MEREKA. UNDILAH SESIAPA SAJA, BN KE BEBAS KE AYAM KE KAMBING KE TAPI JANGAN UNDI PAKATAN SYAITAN!

    PAShit

    p/s LET’S HAVE A SPITTING CAMPAIGN FOR TIAN CHUA. WHENEVER YOU HAPPEN TO ENCOUNTER THIS GUY JUST SPIT IN ANY DIRECTION YOU WISH.

  50. milshah Mar 6,2013 7:50 PM

    Assalamualaikum Tun,

    I would like to say I support 100% our policemen and soldiers in defense of sovereignty. I also support the use of heavy weapons and warplanes to crush our enemies. As the saying goes “All’s fair in war and love”. For those who question our methods, who are they to question what we can or cannot do in our country. This is our country. Our Prime Minister have warned the intruders we are going all out. If they don’t like it, then leave Sabah. Simple as that.

    On another note, I think there is too much information being divulged about our military operations. I do not want to go into specifics but just read the comments and you would know. If an ordinary person can know about the details of operations, couldn’t the enemy know as well? If the enemy knew our strategy, then the enemy might customise their strategy accordingly.

    One way to determine whether that information is important or not is to step back and ask oneself, if the enemy knew this information would he change his strategy or act differently as compared if he did not know the information?

    Malaysia is very IT savy. It is good but it could also prove to be our weakness. Anything that happens is quickly dessimated to everyone and the whole Malaysia knows about it. I fear the enemy might know about it as well.

    On the other hand, I don’t know anything about the enemy. What weapons are they using? What are there targets? How many ammunition and food do they have left? How many are there? Do they plan to eat and sleep in the jungle playing hide and seek with our soldiers for the next 30 years? I really don’t know. Because we don’t know about them, and they know about us, it gives them an advantage.

    I know Malaysians wants to know about everything that happens in Lahad Datu but we must know that the operations there is still on going.

    In war, and this is the closest Malaysia has been to a real war, information is king. Knowing or not knowing about a certain information can decide the outcome of the war.

    So if ministers or military officers were to only disclose in general, please don’t feel sad or left out. I know I want to know as well. But I think these information are best known only to the military and policemen. At least until we win this ‘war’.

  51. sibotak Mar 6,2013 7:25 PM

    SE INCHI TANAH DI SABAH TUN NAJIB
    TAK AKAN BERGANJAK

    TANAH TANJUNG PAGAR,KTM ,TENTERA LAUT DI SINGAPURA
    MEMBENARKAN PELABUR ASING MENJAJAH BERIBU ACRE DI JOHOR
    NAJIB DIAM MACAM BUDAK TONGON
    Aaade……………….deh ! bangu……….n deh !
    Bangun dah Magrhib

  52. sentinel3 Mar 6,2013 6:15 PM

    Tun,

    With the recent developement in Sabah, i think the goverment should seriously consider beefing up the assets of the armed forces of our country.

    Looks like the goverment decisions before this to buy sophiscated weapons like the scorpene submarines, the F-18 and Shukoi fighter jets is right and their deractors are wrong.

    The recent incident in Lahat Datu could escalate into an open warfare between two countries if we are not carefull enough.

    Besides that we also have a kiasu and jealous neighbour to think about and a northern neighbour that also have a problems of its own.

    So we need the latest technology such as the UAV and smart munitions so that precisions bombing could be done and the terrorist could be silence once and for all and at the same time minimizing the casualty among our armed foces personnel.

    Tun, the goverment should also consider to set aside some allocations to build up fences at the seasides of Lahad Datu to curtail the movement of terrorist from the island of Philipines through sea.

    And please advise the goverment to stop giving any more allowances the terrorist leader Jamalul Kiram III, with his hand now tainted with the blood of our fallen hereos.

    I also like to suggest that after the military have finish doing their mopping up operations in Lahat Datu, the goverment should also do its own mopping up jobs on the social ills among our citizens in this country.

    The ISA should be reintroduce, so that those that are disloyal to the King and the country and the traitors can be weed out and put in jail permanently so that Malaysians can live peacefully.

    After the GE, the goverment should close down the oppositions news portal that are deterimental to the security and well-being of this country.

    We dont need to listen or kowtow to the hipocrisy of the West on press freedom, freedom of expressions etc, etc. After all we are not beholden to any of this countries,

    Those that are ungratefull and dont have the sense to be loyal to this country should be thrown in jail or advise to leave this country so that they could live in a country of their choice.

    Maybe an incentives should be given to these ungratefull scumbag to leave this country permanently.

    And let Humpty Dumpty or the bad egg falls from the wall.

    Salam Tun.

  53. mubarakchan Mar 6,2013 6:07 PM

    Tun

    It teases my thoughts on your interesting subject of Humpty Dumpty.

    What comes to my mind is the thought that in some Malaysians especially the Malaysian
    Chinese who look upon the great Lee Kuan Yew as a role model or whatever that here is a Chinaman who achieved greatness in all the wondrous things he did eg. no corruption, a lst class civil service, no nepotism, profits on an even field for all, the courts are fair and incorruptible, meritocracy held sway at all levels etc. etc. All the good things which go to form a paradise of having the cake and eat it as well. I am sorry to say all these goodies are far far from the truth. These are myths which have been cleverly spun and twisted to serve an ultimate control of power first over the Government’s own populace and further afield to pump up a deflatable superman like the cartoon ‘Tom and Jerry’ !

    This myth of the invincible and very clever Lee Kuan Yew as embedded in the mind-set of some Malaysians and most Malaysian Chinese is the Humpty Dumpty of Malaysian politics when the incumbent BN Government as led by the UMNO and the 14 component parties let their guard down. The Daddy’s Action Party has had 44 years of insinuating and cajoling all and sundry especially the Malaysian Chinese who because of the up-bringing in an exclusive environment preferred not to understand Malaysia and what it means to themselves and others. This has been the strength of the DAP so far by leaning on the myth of the great Lee Kuan Yew’s impeccable derring-dos.

    However, it is now slowly and clearly being revealed especially by the failure of Lee Kuan Yew’s policies which were mainly on the laws in stark black and white with the devil in the details that put paid to the myth of his invincibility and superior intellect. In politics, as is shown around the World, needs a human touch which is compassion. His mistake was to place all emphasis on the finest law statutes in the land to hell with the non-believers ! And the result which is very clear for all to see is in the Singapore Government’s White Paper on Population.

    At the beginning of his over 55 year rule of Singapore, the indigenuous population was 100%. In 2003, this has dropped to 62%. By 2030, only 45% of the indigenuous population which supported Lee Kuan Yew way back in 1959 remain. What did Lee Kuan Yew, the myth, did to the Singaporean population which literally killed them off by the thousands without so much as lifting a finger ? What was it ? It was the absolute absence of compassion and the weeding out of all dissent. Period. A sort of scorched earth policy which has since back-fired to the embarassment of the inheritors who came after Lee Kuan Yew. How to make good ? his is the trillion Singapore dollar question ?

    DAP has been riding the hefty shoulders of Lee Kuan Yew for so long, 44 years to be precise and now the giant is found to be wanting and have feet of clay, how far can the leadership hang on with the thick smoke and faulty mirrors to mislead the constituents that they are just as good as the great Lee Kuan Yew if not better. Those who think the DAP is great must be in a pipe-dream. And as for the Malaysian Chinese who think the DAP is great because Lee Kuan Yew is great, it is obvious they are ignorant of Singaporean current affairs. Lee Kuan Yew with great anticipation has already said that castle Singapore will not open the gates to these Malaysian Chinese refugees if something untoward happens in Malaysia.

    Malaysian Chinese please note that two myths do not make reality. Like two wrongs do not make a right. Wake up from your dream that Malaysia is going to be like the failed state of Singapore by supporting DAP. This is not going to happened. Dr Tony Pua said so not too many moons ago !

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. I know that most of you are not happy with this and that. But do think which country is better than your beloved Malaysia as administered by the BN as led by the UMNO and the 14 component parties since 1957. Which country ? Together we can make a better Malaysia. That has always been my hope and aspiration. Nothing is easy.

  54. ahmad Mar 6,2013 2:32 PM

    Mahathir melindungi penghina Islam, mana Perkasa dan Pemuda Umno ?

    Kertas pendakwaan di atas cukup jelas dan terang, bukti tidak perlu dicari kerana jelas pemilik komen dan blogger tersebut iaitu Syed Akhbar Ali mudah terkait kerana dia merupakan penulis blog yang tidak berselindung.

    Syed Akhbar Ali dikenali ramai sebagai ‘#1 spin doctor’ bagi Dr. Mahathir Mohamad kerana keakrabannya dengan Dr.Mahathir beliau dinamakan sebagai salah seorang NEAC economic consultant, dia juga ahli lembaga panel SPRM selain dari Presiden Blog House kumpulan yang terhasil dari operasi menjatuhkan Abdullah ketika dia menjadi PM.

    Dia telah didakwa namun difahamkan selepas sebutan kes tiba – tiba Pendakwa menarik balik dan kes digugurkan. Bagaimana mungkin sebegitu hebat penghinaan dilemparkan oleh individu yang ‘ternama’ terhadap Islam

    Diyakini pengguguran kes tersebut ada kaitan dengan kemesraan Syed Akhbar Ali.

    Dr. Mahathir melancarkan buku yang ditulis oleh Syed Akbar Ali.
    Tun Dr Mahathir launched my 3rd book yesterday (Friday 19th June 2009) which is titled ‘Things In Common’. He was accompanied by Tun Dr Siti Hasmah Mohd Ali. The event was held at the Kelantan Delights Restaurant which is owned and run by my good friend Juhaidi Yean Abdullah.
    Dua tahun sebelum itu, Dr. M telah juga melancarkan buku dari penulis yang sama:
    “It’s is important that Muslims read and gain knowledge in everything, including science, technology and mathematics and not only read the Quran and recite the Hadith”, said Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad said this afternoon. He was invited to speak at the launching of Syed Akbar Ali’s second book, “Malaysia and the club of Doom: The collapse of the Islamic Countries”, at Kelantan Delight restaurant, KLCC Suria.

    Bagi yang mahu membaca dengan lebih jelas kertas pertuduhan Syed Akhbar Ali sila klik sini

    Ini antara banyak tulisan menghina Islam yang ditulisnya.

    “The Arabs are kafirs or disbelievers. They founded the religion of the Batu Gang. They have conned millions into believing that a stupid stone structure in their shit hole desert should be the centre of focus of people’s worship — another stupid concept.
    True to Arab homosexual tradition, the sick Arabs have conned millions of people into raising their arse above their heads five times a day — supposedly in prayer. Ass holes! Staring up each others backsides! Yo Brader Anwar. Just thought of you.”

    Sekarang mana geng-geng pembela seperti Perkasa dan seumpamanya adakah kerana dia ‘spin doctor’ Dr. M maka semua halal ? Sebaliknya komen Guan Eng yang mengulang kenyataan Nazri mengenai isu Kalimah Allah di Pulau Pinang kamu bersungguh mengamuk tak tentu hala.

    maksud penghinaan tersebut ialah :

    Batu Gang Malays : Penganut Islam yang bersolat dan bertawaf dengan berkiblatkan Kaabah

    They founded the religion of the Batu Gang : ditujukan kepada masyarakat Arab

    a stupid stone structure … the centre of focus of people’s worship : dimaksudkan ialah Kaabah

    the sick Arabs have conned millions of people into raising their arse above their heads five times a day : solat lima waktu sehari semalam.

    Adakah Dr. Mahathir melindungi penghina agama Islam ini ?

  55. Simple Mind Mar 6,2013 1:15 PM

    Asalm’kum Tun,

    There is TWO ways of getting to Putajaya – One through the Front (by elections0), and the other is through the back (creating chaos and taking the opportunity to muscle through).
    If one is to look back before PRU12, there was Hindraf, and now there is the incursion in Sabah. it seems that it was created by some one to cause disturbance in the country and so he could use it to (hijack it) to cause an Arab Spring. Maybe he failed this time. Nevertheless, the government must be vigilante for such happenings in the country, and not be deceived by it.

  56. amin tan Mar 6,2013 12:38 PM

    Dear Tun,

    Thank you Mr tired for pointing out the liar, hypocrite and traitor among the bloggers. a Chinese disguising himself as Malay muslim and continue to insult and belittle Malay and Muslim. But he is thick skinned and will continue to show up especially when there is calamity or misfortune in the country to insinuate and pass negative remarks of racist and bigoted nature.

    ””Tired
    March 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM | Permalink
    Salam Tun,

    Tumpang lalu; terima kasih, Tun!

    Age_of_Enlightment,

    1. I’m sure you are beaming now, proudly, from ear-to-ear, for your coup on ‘Love’, ‘Hate’ and ‘ISA!’ or so you thought! Think again!

    2. Most Malaysians (‘balance’ included) know what is at stake, and cheap thrills like you’ve just exhibited are just cliché that are to be expected from ingrates and hypocrites like you!””

    amin tan

  57. Tired Mar 6,2013 9:20 AM

    Salam Tun,

    Tumpang lalu; terima kasih, Tun!

    Age_of_Enlightment,

    1. I’m sure you are beaming now, proudly, from ear-to-ear, for your coup on ‘Love’, ‘Hate’ and ‘ISA!’ or so you thought! Think again!

    2. Most Malaysians (‘balance’ included) know what is at stake, and cheap thrills like you’ve just exhibited are just cliché that are to be expected from ingrates and hypocrites like you!

    3. I, for one, tried not to play ‘the race card’, as I thought we could resolve our current problem, differently, hence my ‘Why’’ comment yesterday. Clearly, as proven here, you’re one of those ingrates and ‘kiasus’ that we need to be “set them sail to Sulu”; to borrow a line from my esteemed blogger, Dr Jafri.

    4. While my heart goes out to those families that have lost their husbands and fathers in defending our beloved country, Malays et all, I’ll spit on you grave if I were to stumble upon it someday, Insyallah.

    5. Pls know that we Muslims cherish death. We are not fearful of death esp. if we were to die in defending our rights, Islam, and the Nation; hence, DO NOT ENTICES US! Our patience has limits. Always be mindful of that, you ingrates!

    6. If you’re still ignorant and foolish, Malays are lovable and tolerable people. We’re peace loving and respectful people by nature (though I wish we shouldn’t have been, on hindsight!).

    7. We were living harmoniously (or were good actors at that, if otherwise!), before. We never ever had to discuss and talk ‘rights’, ‘democracy’, ‘free speech’, and all that rubbish until Pak Lah became PM! You, Hindraf, Ambiga, Tian Chua, and your likes are his creations! But again, ‘Man proposes God disposes!’ And, as they say, “the rest is history…”

    8. But all is not lost yet, God Willing. For a start, why don’t you and your likes show some love? Let’s see if it is reciprocated! Let’s start healing those wounds. Let’s start all over again. We’ve done it before, and I’m sure we could do it again! PLEASE…I beg all of you out there! Don’t destroy this beautiful country! Let’s be fair to our children, and their children’s children! PLEASE…For their sake, at least? Could we at least try?

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.

  58. HBT456 Mar 6,2013 7:56 AM

    Therefore, do not get non-Muslim voters involve in this ugly situation again, and again.

  59. HBT456 Mar 6,2013 7:54 AM

    ** International Court of Justice will not entertain ancestral land “disputes politicized by Muslim politicians in Penang, Sarawak, Sabah nor in Selangor in a democratic and independent country like Malaysia.

  60. HBT456 Mar 6,2013 7:51 AM

    Age_of_Enlightenment,

    International Court of Justice will not entertain ancestral land in Penang, Sarawak, Sabah nor in Selangor in a democratic and independent country like Malaysia.

    Only general election will solve these problems.

    Yes, I agreed, war is not the way to solve these ancestral land disputes.

  61. Age_of_Enlightenment Mar 6,2013 3:10 AM

    Salam Tun,

    A quote …

    “There is not enough love and goodness in the world to permit giving any of it away to imaginary beings.”

    ― Friedrich Nietzsche

    I post this quote because we are at war, and some kind of love or bond between humans need to be rekindled, as whatever bangsa is at war, we are all humans.

    Hence i do not favour military action, and this essentially political problem should be re-solved by politiicians.

    Thank You Tun

  62. Age_of_Enlightenment Mar 6,2013 3:02 AM

    Salam Tun,

    I am not extending gratuitous advice to the Europeans. I am aiming this at countries which have somehow escaped the financial tsunami. Don’t copy the Europeans. If your systems are doing well, continue with them. Europeans don’t have a monopoly of wisdom.

    Ah, but you are dong so Tun, and many Europeans who are wide awake will benefit from this advise.

    And in Malaysia, there are still very many who believe God and Government will assist them and so they do not have to work so hard. Predominantly these are muslims, but other religions also have similar followers, it is just that there are majority muslims here. Of late this number is dwindling, as more people get on their feet to earn more, simply because cost of living has risen very high so many believe they need to do extra work to earn extra income to make ends meet. That is good.

    Those left behind are the ones copying these failed economic ways, and this way of thinking will seep in and become a way of life, thus making those who aim for get rich quick ways suffer the predictable losses over and over again.

    ISA

    In the wake of Lahad Datu events, a friend of mine echoed or rather parrotted the call for reintroduction of ISA. Well, while we are at it, why not go back to stoning and caning and beheading.

    This war is essentially between two races, Malays and the so called Bangsamoro which PM Najib successfully negotiated for peace with the Philipines only recently.

    The Moros chairman said yesterday, quote from http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/03/06/916294/misuari-visits-sulu-sultan

    Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) founding chairman Nur Misuari yesterday volunteered to serve as emissary to Kuala Lumpur and help in talks to resolve the violence in Sabah peacefully.

    And if he fails, this war between muslims and muslims will escalate and be prolonged and as Tun says will dwindle into a long guerilla style warfare, which we should avoid.

    And so i think we really need an external force or influence to solve this peacefully, a neutral and reliable peacemaker. Not Malaysia, Not Philipines, Not Sabahan who are victims and not Moros who were given a boost of authority by Malaysia.

    A very complicated situation, but i hope both sides will see that guns and cannons is not going to achieve any good for anyone.

    May Peace Prevail.

    Thank You Tun

  63. HBT456 Mar 5,2013 11:32 PM

    http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/3/5/nation/20130305194304&sec=nation

    Anwar Ibrahim needs think twice before accepting this offer?

    Yes.

    If he agrees to be interviewed, then, he has disqualified himself to be the PM of Malaysia.

  64. mubarakchan Mar 5,2013 11:28 PM

    Tun

    The good Dr Tony Pua of Daddy’s Action Party has let it be known to all and sundry that Malaysia’s politics is Bumiputra (Malay) based. This is the first time such an utterance has been openly expressed at anywhere and anytime as though is a new discovery by the great scientist, Einstein ! The year is 2013. Malaysia has march forth from Merdeka in 1957 and it was obvious to all our politics with its own uniqueness and originality and innovation has always been Malay based. This is only proper and one wonders why such a surprising utterance was made at all. This can only be the fact that the DAP has operated as an entirely unit entirely independent of the mainstream of Malaysian politics for so long, to be precise, 44 years without a care of its duties and responsibilities as a political party. And now it wants to come in from the cold to partake in the spoils which will be on the table for those who can get rid of the incumbent BN Government. Is this fair and equitable for such an act or change to take place. Notwithstanding that this bunch of fellows of the Oppostion are johnny-come-latelies. Of course, it is up to all responsible citizens to prevent a ‘Humpty-Dumpty’ scenario as will be created by the Opposition.
    The astonishing discovery of the basis of Malaysian politics by Dr Pua that it is Malay base in 2003 shows also the hidden thoughts and intentions of the DAP. Are they serious in this me’nage a trois’ with the PAS and the PKR to go through this political marriage for 5 long years ? Or are they just making fools of their new found political Malay friends at the behest of their ultimate master, Lee Kuan Yew ? The future has much to foretell.
    Logically and with political expediency, Daddy’s Action Party should have joined the BN long ago in the interests of the Nation and would have contributed much. But it did not. Hence, DAP became not only an enigma but also a dilemma as to their true and hidden intentions. Or pardon this thought, are these people out to do something to wreak havoc to the present peace, stability and prosperity ? There are so many unanswered questions to this DAP which was founded by Lee Kuan Yew. And yet, there are intelligent people willingly and seemingly became attracted to it. Was the attraction the might Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore’s mythical achievements through policies which have now found to be wanting. In which case, when are these Pied Piper of Hamelin followers going to wake up from their cosy dreams of a perfect political paradise as orchestrated and produced by the titan Lee Kuan Yew !
    Fortunately, Malaysia is resilient and survives on the fact that the many different communities co-exist in many different ways which are not easily understood by the oursider or the latecomer. When a political vacuum existed in recent years, the political socio-economic fabric was subjected to great stress and strain. But this has happened before and Malaysia re-bounded to greater heights of achievements like Tun’s 22 year administration.
    As I said before, the DAP is the weakest link in the PR because the raison d’etre of its existence in Malaysian politics is not there. OK. Then, if their leadership based themselves on their role model the great Lee Kuan Yew whose policies have failed like Humpty Dumpty in Singapore, then they have nothing to lean on. They might as well fold their tents and go back to Singapore. Daddy’s Action Party ! And leave us Malaysians alone and in peace, stability and prosperity.

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. Do not be misled by the Opposition with unproven partners and records in this serious business of Malaysian politics.
    AROUND THE WORLD I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A COMICAL REMARK BY THE OPPOSITION, ‘ GIVE US A CHANCE TO RULE ‘ BY ANY SERIOUS POLITICAL PARTY !

  65. HBT456 Mar 5,2013 11:13 PM

    http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/3/5/nation/20130305191538&sec=nation

    Beijing with no democratic system is not quite satisfy with this President Aquino in Manila.

    The way he used justice to jail the ex-President by riding-off his opponent elected by the people to be the President is just not gentleman.

    Even Washington DC has never used justice to topple the Presidents elected by Americans in this most liberal and democratic United States of America.

    Therefore, if PR is thinking of prosecuting President cum PM of Malaysia with treason, they better think twice.

    .

  66. HBT456 Mar 5,2013 10:29 PM

    The Digital Board that shows daily the selling price and buying FOREX price in Maybank shown that after US dollar is Renminbi.

    Therefore, never under estimate the Chinese wisdom and civilization, Sentinel 3.

  67. nyot75 Mar 5,2013 9:38 PM

    Salam ,
    Yg Berbahagia Tun ,

    Nampaknya drama swasta yang di mainkan ‘Saudara’ kita tak
    menarik penonton dan penyokong . Nak dicalonkan dalam anugerah
    di TV3 pun belum tentu menang.Pilhanraya ni pun belum tentu lagi .

    Kenyataan saudara kita nak duduk meja bulat bersama perdana menteri,
    Kementerian Pertahanan dan Kementerian Dalam Negeri untuk menyelesaikan masalah ini. Nampak gayanya meja tu tak bulat lagi. Segala perwatakan saudara kita, sudah di baca .

    Inti pati drama tersebut kononnya , sultan sulu datang ke Malaysia untuk menuntut
    hak , sebenarnya mereka tidak berniat pun sebegitu pun . Mereka hadir sekadar menggemparkan keadaan. Bila sudah sampai di Malaysia , mereka menetapkan syarat perundingan dengan saudara kita.

    Sekiranya , permintaan ini di tunaikan oleh perdana menteri. Maka saudara itu
    akan memukul canang seluruh dunia . Bahawasanya dialah yg menyelesaikan masalah
    di Lahad Datu.

    Tetapi lain yang dirancang , maka lain yang jadi ,Macam cerita P Ramle .. skrip drama ni orang atasan saja yang tahu ,orang bawahan hanya jadi pak turut . Sebab itu terjadi lah episod yang tak di sangka.

    Saya bangga dengan anggota yang terkorban .. Al Fatihah

  68. HBT456 Mar 5,2013 9:20 PM

    Sentinel 3,

    You are sick, a very sick person.

    And the way you put the comments here is like it’s chedet is the one whom is harming the Chinese and other minor races in Malaysia.

    Dr Jaffri, ini lah orang yang kamu kena berwaspada.

    Who are those “kafir” to UMNO Baru?

    It looks like TS Abdul Khalid wants to be the PM via menubuhkan dana Wira RM10 juta yang gugur di Selangor.

    Once bitten, twice shy.

    Yes, I support PM Najib to support the country wealth of RM600 millions to those Bumiputra who needs soft grant to do small businesses.

  69. sentinel3 Mar 5,2013 7:33 PM

    Tun,

    Tajuk terbaharu daripada sebuah berita portal propembangkang ditulis begini “Filipino groups gathered in front of the Malaysian Embassy in Manila as bombs dropped over their countrymen in Sabah”.
    Taiada langsung sikap patriotik mahupun rasa belas kasihan terhadap anggota-anggota keselamatan kita yang dibunuh oleh kumpulan pengganas dan nasib keluarga mereka yang kehilangan ketua keluarga.
    The editor in chief and the editorial staff of this pro opposition news portal are sick and should be thrown in jail.
    The goverment should kick out this ungratefull group of editors out from this country. We dont need this group of b……d around.
    Sent them back to China or any western country they like because we dont need sick persons that are sick in the head and heart like them in this country.

    Salam Tun.

  70. Faizul Mar 5,2013 4:47 PM

    Salam Tun..
    Currently, the government is splashing all sort of aids to the people in various form and target group. Personally i think the programme is good as it can lessen the cost of living especially those in the cities but i don’t think in the long run it is a good solution as it can nurture subsidy mentality among the people furthermore can deteriorate or falsify the purchasing power of the people. By giving aids, it seems that the people are better off when in fact in reality they can’t buy as much without the aid given. What is your take on this.. is it not a humpty dumpty in the making?

  71. balance Mar 5,2013 3:17 PM

    Tun,

    If only many more thinks, ask and do like what Tired March 5, 2013 at 10:45 AM mentioned the world and surely Malaysia would be the best and most peaceful place.

    Many cannot because of their prejudicial interest and nature. Many cannot imagine what if they are wrong or done wrong. How many can accept that there is two-side to a coin and accept or try to understand someone else comments, opinion and deed with sincere, helpful and open heart. Many will jump to conclusion and condemnation or approval. The best is every holy books and teaching already warn us about this human nature but we still think we are better.

    The better way to condemnation is to explain and convince (like Amin Tan) Fight fire with water not with petrol.

  72. wajaperak Mar 5,2013 2:17 PM

    Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh..
    Tun..terima kasih kerana ruangan..
    Polo..Polo..
    First and foremost your profession does not inlvoves in security matter..so you don’t know..
    Me..I don’t know too but being in certain moment in jungle will give you certain ideas what beastly creatures roaming about.And the most beastly creatures are among men.
    You must have the ability to ferret them out.Isolate them and go for the grace de coup..
    Situation are diferrent in Sabah where one are demonstrator’s and the other’s are armed intruder..Before you hit a dog,watch out first who let them out?..

    Dear Mr Tired..
    The why commenced here..
    Malaikat berkata: “Mengapa Engkau hendak menjadikan (khalifah) di bumi itu orang yang akan membuat kerusakan padanya dan menumpahkan darah, padahal kami senantiasa bertasbih dengan memuji Engkau dan menyucikan Engkau?”

    After they were shown the why..the obeyed..
    Malaikat itu menjawab: “Maha suci Engkau (Ya Allah)! Kami tidak mempunyai pengetahuan selain dari apa yang Engkau ajarkan kepada kami; sesungguhnya Engkau jualah yang Maha Mengetahui, lagi Maha Bijaksana”.

    And..proceed to sujud..
    Iblis enggan dan jadilah dia orang yang kafir..
    This verses actually apllied to us..
    It is only when we practiced the proper basic Islamic tenet and principal we will able to sharpen and enhance our perceptionary level to be able to understand the life why’s..
    There is level of understanding..
    There is level of absorption of understanding..
    And there is comprehension of matter at hand
    And there is the degree level of divine comprehension..
    To each to the best of their abilities..
    And for that come the responsibilities, the punishment and rewards..

    Terima kasih Tun.

  73. sibotak Mar 5,2013 1:48 PM

    MUSLIMS WORLD NEEDS
    SELF BUILT MILITARY
    A COLIATION OF ISLAMIC NATION

  74. sudin Mar 5,2013 1:44 PM

    Salam Tun.

    Our security forces must end the Sabah insurgency issue, capture as many insurgents possible and dig the full truth from them.
    This one incident Anwar must not be allowed to escape guilty verdict for treason, and including tianchua, Jeffrey Kitingan, and all those perpetrators.
    It has been so long since the last recorded death by firing squad in Malaysia!!

    Do not compromise with their sympathisers, including one appearing in chedet, whose identity is very well verified by KDN!

  75. Dr Jafri Mar 5,2013 11:44 AM

    Tun yang saya hormati,

    why, right after your HD post, you went on to say that money will depreciate?

    Muslims must help each other out in spurring their economic growth. Stop supporting the kafir economy, and invest your money and do business with Muslims only.

    I believe, with our higher rate of conscience and trust in God, we can easily beat the kafirs and turn the economic balance in our favor in a short time.

    But first, we need to weed out the ingrates amongst us. Put them all on a dingy boat and set them sail to Sulu.

  76. Polo Mar 5,2013 11:22 AM

    Dear Tun,
    Sorry for my disrespectful previously and out of topic comment that i’m going to write. Currently there’s war going on in Sabah and Tun did say below statement. “That’s why we acted cautiously at first. After all, they are Muslims, and we are Muslims. We do not want to be hasty, but they acted in bad faith by gunning down two of our policemen,”

    I’m wondering is religion really matter when come to national security and public safety? It sounds like if they were not Muslims, the police / army will go in with all guns firing? If they were not muslim, i guess the previously 2 policemen won’t sacrifice as govt already blast them off.

    When comes to bersih demonstration, why government taking so hard action against them? Using water cannon, smoke grenade and etc. They are weaponless. There were senior citizen as well.

    But when comes to intruders with weapon and obviously they are not come in peace, they have been camping there for almost 1month. It give them alot of time to deploy their army batch by batch. Why can’t govt take action like how they fight bersih? Just because they are muslim?

    Thanks.

  77. Tired Mar 5,2013 10:45 AM

    Salam, Tun.

    1. Why? Why do we have ingrates amongst us? Why do we have ‘kiasus?’ Why do we have traitors? Why do we have corrupts? Why do we have social ills? Why do we have dissenting views? Why do we have always had to question ‘our rights?’ Why this? Why that? Whatever? Why?

    2. Why? Was it religion? Was it race? Was it greed? Was it life? Was it death? What? Why?

    3. Why? Could we without using ‘the blame game’, give our unequivocal attention to those questions? Could we reflect for a second? Could we not use religion as an excuse but use it as reason instead (if one wants to use it, as after all, isn’t all religions teaches us compassion whatever religion one’s professes?) Could we? Couldn’t we? Why?

    4. Why? Don’t we have sufficient acts and laws to protect ourselves? Don’t we have political system that governs us? Don’t we have a constitution that guarantees equality? Don’t we have statutory bodies and agencies to implement and enforce parliamentary enactments ? Don’t we have all those? Why?

    5. Why? Why then are uncertainties like now? Why is everyone happy with what is going on around us? Why do we allow our bodies, souls, and minds to endure these stressing torturing elements? Why can’t we be as what we were 10 to 15 years ago? Why must everything be either right or wrong? Why must everything be black or white? Why? Why I know there’s imperfection, why couldn’t we be almost perfect then? Why?

    6. Why? Could it be because our education system is not educating? Could it be because we are focusing on the wrong thing? Could it be because we are emphasizing on the wrong priority? Could it be because we are preparing our generation and their future generation wrong concept of life and death? What could it be? What couldn’t it be? Why?

    7. Why? Do we have to be ‘Humpty Dumpty’ then only we will reflect, and regret? Why?

    8. Why? I’m tired… Why?

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.

  78. HBT456 Mar 5,2013 9:30 AM

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/worried-over-security-crisis-but-sabahans-warn-against-stereotyping-filipinos/

    Seeing Petron Philippines owned Petrol Station billboards in the Capital city, now KDN and MoD declared wars on these Muslim Militant settlers there after more than 50 years via Project IC to increase Muslim votes in a democratic country like Malaysia?

    Even the PAP President of Singapore told the voters to vote PAP if they think that the Government is good in Punggol East by-election recently so that they can get the mandate to make Singapore a better and safer place to live, work and play.

    Singapore is an independent country after separation from Malaysia.

    Without votes, there is no way for PAP to sit as PM of Singapore.

    People sentiments change as time move on.

    Have Amin Tan ever think that voters are tired with BN after voting them for more than 50 years now and decided to go for change?

    There is no right or wrong, there are only winners and losers in personal wealth in democratic process country in the rule of law via Humpty Dumpty.

    However, when civil wars started, there will be only losers at the top down instruction in the name of “Allah” like what is happening in Middle-East especially when the general election in around the corner.

    It looks like PM Najib has no choice but to delay General Election.

    But, state governments may choose not to delay to get the feedback from voters before they push forward their budget and state plans for the next 5 years.

  79. HBT456 Mar 5,2013 8:36 AM

    Dear Amin Tan,

    As employees, if anything bad happened that caused lost of lives or serious injuries, we are covered by SOCSO (compulsory under Ministry of Human Resource) + Personal Accident Insurance (given by Management as benefit forked out as operating expenses before taxes) and now Medicare Care (given by Management as extra benefit forked out as operating expenses before taxes).

    If anything bad happened to PDRM and Army, it’s their Ministers’ responsibility paid by tax payers’ monies of all faiths with Islam as the official religion, right?

    Seeing the pictures in news on Home Minister, IGP and MoD Minister, they do not wear bullet proof west.

    I am wondering, those Wira who had sacrificed their lives for Lahad Datu, were they provided by bullet proof west when they entered the kampung there?

    After reading some of the comments written by penyokong kuat, I am rather disappointed, but that does not mean that we will vote DSAI.

    Bela anjing sebagai hobby pun dikatakan jahat?

    Tak mahu makan kerbau kerana binatang ini adalah dibela untuk membajak padi for centuries, ini pun dikatakan jahat?

    Macam ini pun mahu ISA?

  80. amin tan Mar 5,2013 6:11 AM

    Dear Tun,

    Please allow me to address The Hidden Secret whose posting I reproduce in full as below,

    “”The Hidden Secret
    March 4, 2013 at 7:22 PM | Permalink
    Peace!

    IN THE NAME OF GOD.

    For those who have knowledge, their shahaadah is the same with the angels’ shahaadah, which is the same with GOD’s shahaadah.

    As per Quran, chapter and verse [3:18], the sahaadah of GOD is as follow :

    [3:18] GOD BEARS WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO god EXCEPT HE, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.

    As per Quran, chapter and verse [3:18], the angels and those who possess knowledge have the same shahaadah with GOD’s shahaadah.

    [3:18] GOD bears witness that there is no god except He, and SO DO THE ANGELS AND THOSE WHO POSSESS KNOWLEDGE. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.

    As such, the shahaadah of the Angels and those who possess knowledge is “THERE IS NO god EXCEPT GOD”.

    For those who do not have knowledge, their shahaadah is different than the shahaadah of the angels and GOD.

    As per the Quran, only the hypocrites bears witness that Muhammad is a messenger of GOD.

    [63:1] WHEN THE HYPOCRITES COME TO YOU THEY SAY, “WE BEAR WITNESS THAT YOU ARE THE MESSENGER OF GOD.” GOD knows that you are His messenger, and GOD bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.

    We do not have to bear witness on Muhammad messengership because, as per [63:1], GOD knows that Muhammad is His messenger. GOD never commanded us to bear witness that Muhammad is His messenger. ‘Muhammad is/was a messenger of GOD’ is just a statement of fact. Religiously, it is not compulsory to bear witness on Muhammad’s messengership.

    However, insisting to mention Muhammad’s name violate [2:285] as we are making distinction among GOD’s messengers when we failed to mentioned the names of other messengers of GOD.

    [2:285] The messenger has believed in what was sent down to him from his Lord, and so did the believers. They believe in GOD, His angels, His scripture, and His messengers: “WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION AMONG ANY OF HIS MESSENGERS.” THEY SAY, “WE HEAR, AND WE OBEY. Forgive us, our Lord. To You is the ultimate destiny.”

    Insisting to put Muhammad’s name or any other names besides and on par with GOD’s name also violate major Quranic principle in [39:45]. It is an act of creating partners besides GOD.

    [39:45] When GOD ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But WHEN OTHERS ARE MENTIONED BESIDE HIM, THEY BECOME SATISFIED.

    [40:12] This is because when GOD ALONE was advocated, you disbelieved, but WHEN OTHERS WERE MENTIONED BESIDE HIM, YOU BELIEVED. Therefore, GOD’s judgment has been issued; He is the Most High, the Great.

    The key word is “GOD ALONE”. GOD does not like to have a partner. He does not like us to put any other name(s) besides His name. As a big boss, GOD does not like to share his authority regarding HIS religion with anyone.

    Tidak ada satu nama pun yang layak untuk diletak bersama-sama dengan nama TUHAN. Tidak ada satu nama pun yang layak diletak bersebelahan dengan nama TUHAN. Tidak ada satu nama pun yang layak diletak sama tinggi dengan nama TUHAN.

    [16:71] GOD has provided for some of you more than others. THOSE WHO ARE GIVEN PLENTY WOULD NEVER GIVE THEIR PROPERTIES TO THEIR SUBORDINATE TO THE EXTENT OF MAKING THEM PARTNERS. Would they give up GOD’s blessings?*

    *16:71 If the humans would not give up their power to that extent, why do they expect GOD to do this, and create partners for Himself?

    [30:28] He cites for you herein an example from among yourselves: DO YOU EVER ELEVATE YOUR SERVANTS OR SUBORDINATE TO THE LEVEL WHERE THEY RIVAL YOU, AND TO THE POINT THAT YOU PAY THEM AS MUCH ALLEGIANCE AS IS BEING PAID TO YOU? We thus explain the revelations for people who understand.

    I thank and praise GOD for awarding me the shahaadah which is exactly the same as His shahaadah i.e. “THERE IS NO god EXCEPT GOD”. Not many people ‘have’ this shahaadah except a few.

    Rgds.””

    Dear Mr Hidden Secret,

    We have discussed this single kalimah shahadah of yours before and it had caused so much anger among Muslims as you are saying all this while their practice has been wrong. On the contrary, it is you that is wrong either purposely wanting to confuse and mislead the Muslims or otherwise , wallahu alam.
    2. I have checked the Quran, your quotation from the Quran is not shahadah. Shahadah is the Muslim declaration of belief in the Oneness of Allah(tauhid) and the acceptance of Mohammad as Allah’s prophet.

    The second part of the Shahadah carries several conditions as well:
    To believe in Muhammad and in whatever he said and conveyed in his message as the seal of the prophets.
    To obey him in whatever he commanded.
    To stay away from or avoid whatever he commanded Muslims not to do.
    To follow or emulate him in our ʿibādah (عبادة; worship), ʾaḫlāq (أخلاق; manners), and way of life.
    To understand, practice, and promote his sunnah (“habits”) in the best way possible, without creating any chaos, enmity or harm.

    amin tan

  81. Dr Jafri Mar 5,2013 12:24 AM

    Sdr sentinel3,

    Sikap mereka ini yang anti-Melayu, saling tak tumpah seperti pendirian Malayan Communist Party (MCP), apabila disogok dengan hak kewarganeraan yang serata melalui gagasan Malayan Union 1946. Malahan, lebih dari itu, mereka dan MCP menuntut dwi-kewarganeraan bagi orang keturunan China – yakni, memegang passport Malaya dan passport China.

    Tidak cukup dengan itu, mereka juga mahu kesetiaan (allegiance) orang China tempatan diberikan kepada negara China, jika atau seandainya terjadi konflik antara Malaya dan negara China ! Memang dah terang-terang dasar pembelot.

    Maka, berbondong sejak kebelakangan ini mereka lari keluar negara bukanlah kerana tekanan dari pemerintah Melayu, tapi ianya adalah sekadar alasan yang sengaja direka untuk menutup pekung yang mereka simpan sejak lama dulu lagi. Kalau tidak kenapa mereka sepetkan mata dan tak mahu balik ke Tongsan atau Taiwan sahaja, kenapa dengan hidung tak mancung mereka cuba menyondol di US dan Australia pula?

    Jadi, tak heranlah jika sikap gelojoh dan tak tahu malu babi itu diwarisi dan kini terserlah melalui tindak-tanduk mereka yang tak dapat lagi dipendam sebagai satu “Rahsia Tersembunyi”, apatah lagi bila putar-belit mereka kini sudah dapat dihidu dan dijejak ke akar umbi. Pekung yang sama datang dari kandang babi ….

  82. sentinel3 Mar 4,2013 10:07 PM

    Tun,

    Tumpang sikit memberi komen walaupun lari sikit daripada topik Humpty Dumpty dan sepatutnya saya tulis di ruangan mengenai ISA sebelum ini tetapi tiada masa kerana kesibukan tugas.
    Tun, i think the goverment made a big big mistake in abolishing the ISA because we reallly need it in a multi racial country like Malaysia.
    Much as i hates to say it, the Singapore goverment is right in maintaining the ISA as they still needed it for the security of their country.
    Tun, why must we kowtow to the Western countries which practice double standards and hipocrisy on freedom of expression, freedom of the press etc, etc especially on the third world countries?
    And why must we please other countries and their leaders by abolishing the ISA?
    It is a well known fact that the western countries including the US put their enemies in jail without trial for a long period, as an example is the Guantanamo Bay detention camp.
    In the US, eventhou they are multi ethnic, they speak English as their common and national language regardless whether they are Negroes, Hispanics, etc-etc unlike in Malaysia where most of the Chinese which is sad to say could hardly speak the national language properly despite 55 years of our country independence.
    Some which call themselves as Malaysians didnt have any feeling of patriotism at alll towards the country.
    Such as the case of calling the police personnel that was killed in Lahad Datu recently as anjing kerajaan.
    And they have no qualm of abandoning this country, fleeing to another country especially in the west if they have a chance to do so if anything were to happens to the security or economy of this country.
    Even if there is no problems to the country economy and security, they will still flee to the west if given a chance to do so.
    Some of our politicians are more supportive to their western friends compare to their fellow comrades in this coutry.
    And there are those that are even willing to betray their country talking to the enemies as long as their political ambitions are fullfill.
    So Tun, the goverment should reconsider bringing back the ISA so that these guys including HBT456, Age Of Enlightening, the hindrafs guys or even Vell Paari could be put in their respective places so that other Malaysians could live in peace.

    Salam Tun.

    P.S Saya setuju dengan pertanyaan seorang penulis baru-baru ini bahawa ada kerosakkan pada laman blog Tun kerana kotak untuk menulis agak kecil dan sejak akhir-akhir ini saya tidak boleh membaca siapa yang membuat komen di blog Tun.
    Terima kasih.

  83. sudin Mar 4,2013 9:31 PM

    Salam Tun.

    Looks like our mr jealous has turned to being a preacher!
    Probably disappointed after his economic theories faltered at its initial stage!

    The last time when his political views were lambasted as immature, he countered by insisting that he’s neutral and never belonged to any party, albeit continually making quick jabs and blunt remarks at anything that correlate to the ruling party!!

    He’s very allergic to Utusan, always bias and synonymous with lying, say him!
    Probably hoodwinked by the likes of Harakah, Suara Keadilan, Malaysiakini, the Rocket, …..those are his true references!
    He god-worship Anwar maniac like no others, however his denial even confounded himself, and astounded all the normal thinking human being!!

    Okay mr Rahsia Tersorok, I’ll give this point-blank advise to you:
    Nobody is interested in religious preaches given by a looney, you must expose/show yourself to be heard.

  84. Tired Mar 4,2013 9:23 PM

    Salam, Tun.

    Tumpang lalu; nak menyahut seruan rakan blogger yg dihormati. Terima kasih, Tun!

    Sdr Wajaperak;
    “wajaperak March 4, 2013 at 12:35 PM “HUMPTY DUMPTY”
    “Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh..Terima kasih Tun kerana ruangan..
    Saudara Tired..
    I would really like you to emphasizes the definition of ‘Dysphemism’ since somebody who have Hidden Secret Agenda claimed that we should abide to the Geneva Convention no less!..”

    1. Duh, Sdr Wajaperak, how could we minnows compare ourselves to giants like “The Hidden Secret?” (Hereinafter referred to as “She”, for ease of reference, and for us to identify her with ‘a person’ rather than ‘a thingy’ or whatever besides her already other famous acronym “The Wikipedia Queen!”). It is clearly incomparable and immeasurable, definitely. Reminding me of the famous biblical story, “David and Goliath!” (…but of course we know that in the end, “David defeated Goliath”, but she doesn’t think so, and which is why she is searching her “Wikipedia Bible” now to see if there was any slight variation that “Goliath could’ve defeated David actually, and that when the purported fight took place, Goliath was sleeping (like Pak Lah!), and when he’s awaken; he defeated David ‘smacked-down!’)

    2. And I can tell you now that you’ll never win her. Let’s look at this fine example, “The Hidden Secret March 4, 2013 at 7:22 PM “HUMPTY DUMPTY”: “I thank and praise GOD for awarding me the shahaadah which is exactly the same as His shahaadah i.e. “THERE IS NO god EXCEPT GOD”. Not many people ‘have’ this shahaadah except a few.”
    — Noticed the time the above comment was posted? I bet with you that if you were to question her why wasn’t she preparing herself for Evening Prayer (“Solat Maghrib’) at that time, she’ll tell you surely, that, ”Wikipedia says that when one’s having her per*od, she is exempted from praying, automatically!” But again, who are you to question her belief, as “not many people ‘have’ this shahaadah except a few.”

    3. Don’t tell me, “I didn’t tell you so…” Gosh*

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.

  85. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 7:22 PM

    Peace!

    IN THE NAME OF GOD.

    For those who have knowledge, their shahaadah is the same with the angels’ shahaadah, which is the same with GOD’s shahaadah.

    As per Quran, chapter and verse [3:18], the sahaadah of GOD is as follow :

    [3:18] GOD BEARS WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO god EXCEPT HE, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.

    As per Quran, chapter and verse [3:18], the angels and those who possess knowledge have the same shahaadah with GOD’s shahaadah.

    [3:18] GOD bears witness that there is no god except He, and SO DO THE ANGELS AND THOSE WHO POSSESS KNOWLEDGE. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.

    As such, the shahaadah of the Angels and those who possess knowledge is “THERE IS NO god EXCEPT GOD”.

    For those who do not have knowledge, their shahaadah is different than the shahaadah of the angels and GOD.

    As per the Quran, only the hypocrites bears witness that Muhammad is a messenger of GOD.

    [63:1] WHEN THE HYPOCRITES COME TO YOU THEY SAY, “WE BEAR WITNESS THAT YOU ARE THE MESSENGER OF GOD.” GOD knows that you are His messenger, and GOD bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.

    We do not have to bear witness on Muhammad messengership because, as per [63:1], GOD knows that Muhammad is His messenger. GOD never commanded us to bear witness that Muhammad is His messenger. ‘Muhammad is/was a messenger of GOD’ is just a statement of fact. Religiously, it is not compulsory to bear witness on Muhammad’s messengership.

    However, insisting to mention Muhammad’s name violate [2:285] as we are making distinction among GOD’s messengers when we failed to mentioned the names of other messengers of GOD.

    [2:285] The messenger has believed in what was sent down to him from his Lord, and so did the believers. They believe in GOD, His angels, His scripture, and His messengers: “WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION AMONG ANY OF HIS MESSENGERS.” THEY SAY, “WE HEAR, AND WE OBEY. Forgive us, our Lord. To You is the ultimate destiny.”

    Insisting to put Muhammad’s name or any other names besides and on par with GOD’s name also violate major Quranic principle in [39:45]. It is an act of creating partners besides GOD.

    [39:45] When GOD ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But WHEN OTHERS ARE MENTIONED BESIDE HIM, THEY BECOME SATISFIED.

    [40:12] This is because when GOD ALONE was advocated, you disbelieved, but WHEN OTHERS WERE MENTIONED BESIDE HIM, YOU BELIEVED. Therefore, GOD’s judgment has been issued; He is the Most High, the Great.

    The key word is “GOD ALONE”. GOD does not like to have a partner. He does not like us to put any other name(s) besides His name. As a big boss, GOD does not like to share his authority regarding HIS religion with anyone.

    Tidak ada satu nama pun yang layak untuk diletak bersama-sama dengan nama TUHAN. Tidak ada satu nama pun yang layak diletak bersebelahan dengan nama TUHAN. Tidak ada satu nama pun yang layak diletak sama tinggi dengan nama TUHAN.

    [16:71] GOD has provided for some of you more than others. THOSE WHO ARE GIVEN PLENTY WOULD NEVER GIVE THEIR PROPERTIES TO THEIR SUBORDINATE TO THE EXTENT OF MAKING THEM PARTNERS. Would they give up GOD’s blessings?*

    *16:71 If the humans would not give up their power to that extent, why do they expect GOD to do this, and create partners for Himself?

    [30:28] He cites for you herein an example from among yourselves: DO YOU EVER ELEVATE YOUR SERVANTS OR SUBORDINATE TO THE LEVEL WHERE THEY RIVAL YOU, AND TO THE POINT THAT YOU PAY THEM AS MUCH ALLEGIANCE AS IS BEING PAID TO YOU? We thus explain the revelations for people who understand.

    I thank and praise GOD for awarding me the shahaadah which is exactly the same as His shahaadah i.e. “THERE IS NO god EXCEPT GOD”. Not many people ‘have’ this shahaadah except a few.

    Rgds.

  86. mgpunya Mar 4,2013 3:44 PM

    YABhg Tun,

    My prayers goes to our fallen heroes and family….

  87. wajaperak Mar 4,2013 2:59 PM

    Assallammualaikum Tun.
    Terima kasih kerana ruangan..

    [Siaran ulangan…
    If we all really wish to make Tun’s blog a respected blog, we should stop calling names, stop all personal attack and stop using bad words (although in the form of initial) in this blog]

    Tun..binatang mana yang mula menyerang Islam dalam blog Tun yang mulia ini?
    Di dalam Al Quran telah jelas tersebut sikap mereka.
    Mereka bintang buas yang menyerang Islam sebagai Anti Hadith..
    Mari kita lihat sesuatu yang di panggil..Saying it diferrently..
    Berita yang baru kami terima..
    Anjing kerajaan Malaysia baru sahaja di sembelih pejuang sulu..
    Opss..ampun maaf..
    Allow me to rephrase that.
    Pasukan keselamatan Malaysia telah terkorban di serang hendap lanun-lanun Sulu…
    Now..
    Which side you are on?..
    Kalau sanak saudara mara engkau yang terkorban..
    Apakah engkau akan memanggil mereka pejuang-pejuang sulu atau lanun??
    Cakap mesti serupa bikin bro…berok to be precise..
    Anda dan konco-konco anda menyerang Islam..
    Apakah gelaran yang anda ingin minta?..
    Islam moden?..atau

    KAFIR TULIN?..

    ‘Dysphemism’ is aptly used here..

    Tun..Terima kasih.

  88. sudin Mar 4,2013 1:03 PM

    Salam Tun.

    The sotong has spoken. Kejap lagi dia akan melatah tak habis, semua akan kena tempias.

    Awat hang syok sangat kat wikipedia nuu. Tidoq wiki, celik mata wiki, beletiaq wiki, copy paste wiki, kot2 baca Quran pun wiki laa nuu!
    Yang hang dok tulis pebodoh dighi tak abih2 nuu kenalah kami pebetui.
    Tapi susoh nuu kalau dah jadi mr jealous, pi mai tang mana pun dok balun hok jealous tak sat mesti pekena jugok.
    Tambah lai hang dok syok besecret2, tersorok pulak, memang susoh lah nak pi ubat.

    Lain kali baca syahadah tu biarlah sempurna, baru boleh kalau nak perbetul diri.

  89. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 1:02 PM

    Peace!

    To understand that name callings, personal attacks and bad words are bad things, our children need not necessarily understand anything about ‘Dysphemism’ or Geneva Convention or In Medical,Military and Science or Swiss Cheese Model cumulative act effect or mental bandwith or The Appopriation or Iconoclastic or maze of The Mahan Strategy or the modus vivendi or etc.

    While Tun prefers to use simple terms in his writings and books, Anwar Ibrahim prefers to use bombastic terms in his books.

    Rgds.

  90. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 12:50 PM

    Peace!

    My point is very simple…. don’t call other people babi. Don’t call other people anjing. Don’t call other people kerbau. Don’t call other people binatang najis. Don’t call other people makhluk jahanam. Don’t say other people stupid. Don’t say other people this and that.

    Tun’s blog is a public domain because the public has access to this blog and the public may write or give comment in this blog, subject to Tun’s approval of course.

    Am I wrong?

    Rgds.

  91. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 12:40 PM

    Peace!

    Siaran ulangan…

    If we all really wish to make Tun’s blog a respected blog, we should stop calling names, stop all personal attack and stop using bad words (although in the form of initial) in this blog.

    Tun is a statesman. I do not know what do you think but, as for me, It is a sad thing to see people calling names, to see people practising personal attacks, to see people saying bad words (although in the form of initial) in Tun’s blog. For me, it is sad to see these in a statesman’s blog.

    If we really have respect towards Tun, we all should participate in make Tun’s blog a respected blog by stop calling names, stop personal attacks and stop using bad words.

    These are the real rubbish, not the comments or writings which have different views and opinions from Tun or from our views and opinions.

    Based on the readers of Tun blog, the readers of Tun’s blog consist of babi, anjing, kerbau, binatang najis, penjual sayur, makhluk jahanam, etc.

    Let us take one good example of a respected website like Wikipedia. Wikipedia never allows name calling, personal attacks and bad words. I hope that Tun’s blog will go the same direction like Wikipedia, free from name callings, personal attacks and bad words.

    Let us all make Tun’s blog a respected blog, free from the real rubbish of name callings, personal attacks and bad words.

    Rgds.

  92. wajaperak Mar 4,2013 12:35 PM

    Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh..
    Terima kasih Tun kerana ruangan..
    Saudara Tired..
    I would really like you to emphasizes the definition of ‘Dysphemism’ since somebody who have Hidden Secret Agenda claimed that we should abide to the Geneva Convention no less!..
    In Medical,Military and Science, I believe we have something that called naming convention.In this particular aspect one need to identify certain entity and give them the proper classification.And the best classification comes from Al Quran..The beastly creatures have been aptly and suitable named..To say otherwise is tantamount to treason to Islamic principal..So a khinzir and their brethren is a pig..Why?..
    Any other name but rose will be as sweet..:)

    Some believe in Swiss Cheese Model cumulative act effect.How do your measures their mental bandwith?..This is what the Hidden Secret Agenda brought into attention.The Appopriation – Iconoclastic.I would really like to beat them in maze of The Mahan Strategy.Beat them soundly.This ‘Agent’ is latent in their act.Demanding us the modus vivendi.Let me say my piece of true story to Dr Jafri from my late Ustaz.

    It is a story of a jackass or a pony exploited by a stalk of corn or edible hung beyond it perimeter reach.It performed task by an installation of it neck by turning the motion of wheel of a flour or the respective mill.It could be cruel but useful usage of the notion part of the jackass who keep trying the reach the edible thus provide the necessary grinding.This is exactly what HBT is doing here.
    “Ass” idously reaching something beyond her reach.Unfortunately she does not know when to stop not fully comprehend that the edible is just forever beyond her reach due the restriction of her neck that made forward movement impossible..

    Tun terima kasih..

  93. Tired Mar 4,2013 12:28 PM

    Salam, Tun.

    Tumpang lalu; one last comment to Sdr (Sdri?) “The Hidden Secret” before you got angry with me…Terima kasih, Tun!

    The Hidden Secret,

    “1. For those who are not interested with what I wrote, you don’t have to comment on my writing. You don’t even have to read my writing. For those who are interested with what I wrote, you may read and comment on my writing.” And,” 1. We should COMMENT ON THE CONTENT WRITTEN BY OTHERS, NOT MAKE COMMENT ON THEM (examples : low intelligence, a smart alec, your skewed mind, you are too obsessive with your political view, you have took things for granted far too long that you don’t remember what you did, you don’t know what you are talking about, you want to sound like Nobel Laurette Prof Dr Joseph E Stiglitz, the lady with the moustache who talks like a man, just like that ‘polo’ boy, that tuan shaik, doleng, etc.).” And, “4. Let us be cool when things get hotter. Please refer to an article in Wikipedia entitled “Staying Cool When The Editing Gets Hot” to get tips on how to stay cool.”

    1. Oh, touchy are we? Tun’s Blog is ‘a Public Domain’ of sorts. So? When you comment here, you must expect idiots like me to say something; otherwise, I would not sound intelligent. Btw, the catch phrase here is, “No matter what you said, one must sounds intelligent!” I do need attention as you do too, you know?! Anyway, as I was saying, “You’re a walking cliché!” Especially now, when you are angry, you indeed does sound like my wife! Matter of facts, you sound cute too!!! LMFAO

    2. As per Meeriam-Webster, “Definition of CONTRADICTION: Is an act or an instance of contradicting: (a) proposition, statement, or phrase that asserts or implies both the truth and falsity of something, and (b) statement or phrase whose parts contradict each other. Whereas, logical incongruity is a situation in which inherent factors, actions, or propositions are inconsistent or contrary to one another. Examples of CONTRADICTION are (i) No one was surprised by the defendant’s contradiction of the plaintiff’s accusations. (ii) Her rebuttal contained many contradictions to my arguments. (iii) There have been some contradictions in his statements. (iv) There is a contradiction between what he said yesterday and what he said today. (v) Her statements are mired in contradiction. (vi) What he said yesterday is in direct contradiction to what he said today. Etc., etc. (Sorry, I couldn’t find ‘contradiction’ at Wikipedia! Moreover, I wanted to tell another jokes about lawyers but since one of my esteemed blogger had warned me against it, NO MORE ‘lawyers’ jokes’ henceforth! (Wink, wink…)

    3. Ok, I’m outta here already! My humblest apologies if I had offended you; after all, like you’ve said, “life is short!” Or did you say that? I’m confused now! Anyway, you’ve a good lunch, and a great afternoon!

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.

  94. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 12:09 PM

    Peace,

    1. The government of Brunei Darussalam has zero debt. The country also has no external debt. Please refer to articles in Wikipedia entitled “List of countries by public debt” and “List of countries by external debt”. Government of Libya had zero debt also up to year 2010.

    2. It is a normal thing to borrow money. However, it is not a good thing to borrow too much money. We should borrow money based on our income (eg. monthly income vs. monthly loan installment). Reduce our borrowing if we could see the possibility of loosing part of our income.

    3. Uttering bad language like “LMFAO” and “ROFLMFO” is against the teaching of the Quran.

    [4: 148] GOD does not like the utterance of bad language, unless one is treated with gross injustice. GOD is Hearer, Knower.

    Rgds.

  95. mgpunya Mar 4,2013 12:06 PM

    YABhg Tun,

    I was telling friends that we’ve made a mistake by brokering the peace deal in the southern Philippines. Look what it got us into. These crazy people are now running around with guns simply because they have nothing else better to do….

  96. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 11:37 AM

    Peace!

    1. For those who are not interested with what I wrote, you don’t have to comment on my writing. You don’t even have to read my writing. For those who are interested with what I wrote, you may read and comment on my writing.

    Did you read or not read my writing? Did you comment or not comment on my writing?

    2. No body has the right to stop me from writing or giving my comment in this blog except Tun alone. For those who are not happy with my writing, there is nothing you could do to stop me from writing. We all have to understand our rights and other people’s rights in regards to writing and give comments in this blog. Sedangkan Tun pun tak halang tak kan lah kita pulak yang nak halang?

    3. Having different views and beliefs is a normal thing in our life. We should learn on how to live in this kind of environment (different views and beliefs). There is no reason for us to be unhappy with other people’s differences in regards to views and beliefs.

    Rgds.

  97. mgpunya Mar 4,2013 11:30 AM

    YABhg Tun,

    ….state of denial ? I don’t agree with you on that sir. Infact, I think some of them have changed part of their diet preferences ……..beef to horsemeat!!!!

  98. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 11:13 AM

    Peace!

    1. We should COMMENT ON THE CONTENT WRITTEN BY OTHERS, NOT MAKE COMMENT ON THEM (examples : low intelligence, a smart alec, your skewed mind, you are too obsessive with your political view, you have took things for granted far too long that you don’t remember what you did, you don’t know what you are talking about, you want to sound like Nobel Laurette Prof Dr Joseph E Stiglitz, the lady with the moustache who talks like a man, just like that ‘polo’ boy, that tuan shaik, doleng, etc.).

    As such, THERE SHOULD BE NO PERSONAL ATTACK (AD HOMINEM) ON ANY PERSON WHO GIVE THEIR COMMENT. According to Wikipedia, An ad hominem (Latin for “to the man” or “to the person”), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument. Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as an informal fallacy, more precisely an irrelevance. Please refer to an article in Wikipedia entitled “Personal Attack”. Let us all stop practising Personal Attack against others who make comments in this blog.

    2. If we wish to follow Wikipedia’s standard, personal attack is not allowed at all. Please refer to an article in Wikipedia entitled “No Personal Attacks”. If we wish to follow our own standard, we shall continue with our personal attack. We are what we are. Only we can change ourself, not others.

    3. CALLING NAMES (examples : babi, anjing, kerbau, binatang najis, penjual sayur, makhluk jahanam, etc. ) IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE. According to Wikipedia, name calling is a cognitive bias and a technique to promote propaganda. Please refer to an article in Wikipedia entitled “Name Calling”. Let us all stop calling names on each other.

    4. Let us be cool when things get hotter. Please refer to an article in Wikipedia entitled “Staying Cool When The Editing Gets Hot” to get tips on how to stay cool.

    Regards.

  99. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 11:01 AM

    Peace!

    1. We should COMMENT ON THE CONTENT WRITTEN BY OTHERS, NOT MAKE COMMENT ON THEM (low intelligence, a smart alec, your skewed mind, you are too obsessive with your political view, you have took things for granted far too long that you don’t remember what you did, you don’t know what you are talking about, you want to sound like Nobel Laurette Prof Dr Joseph E Stiglitz, the lady with the moustache who talks like a man, just like that ‘polo’ boy, that tuan shaik, doleng, etc.).

    As such, THERE SHOULD BE NO PERSONAL ATTACK ON ANY PERSON WHO GIVE THEIR COMMENT. An ad hominem (Latin for “to the man” or “to the person”), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument. Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as an informal fallacy, more precisely an irrelevance.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_attack

    If we wish to follow Wikipedia’s standard, personal attack is not allowed at all.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks

    If we wish to follow our own standard, we shall continue with our personal attack. We are what we are. Only we can change ourself, not others.

    2. Calling names (babi, anjing, kerbau, binatang najis, penjual sayur, makhluk jahanam, etc. ) is counter productive. Name calling is a cognitive bias and a technique to promote propaganda.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_calling

    3. Let us be cool when things get hotter.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Staying_cool_when_the_editing_gets_hot

    Regards.

  100. Tired Mar 4,2013 10:45 AM

    Salam Tun,

    Tumpang lalu; terima kasih, Tun!

    The Hidden Secret,

    1. Hello? Anybody home? You lost me lah! Poorah dei! Teori engko ni teori basi dar; sama mcm pemutar teori tersebut, dah basi! LMFAO

    2. You are littering this respected blog already! Pls bring your garbage elsewhere. Do you not notice that no one’s interested in you theory or statement or whatever?

    3. Last I heard, THE ONLY PERSON OR THING that doesn’t has a debt in this world is the Roman Catholic Church (but do make sure that you don’t send pretty young boys to collect the utility bills though…^_^)

    4. Where have you been all this while? A cave? ROFLMFO

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.

    P.s.
    Sdri Hajar,
    Don’t mind Sdr Wajaperak. Except on occasions his youth overwhelms him, otherwise, he’s a really nice gentleman. Anyway, he just wants to illustrate to both of you that “a pen is mightier than a sword”, that was all, I think. ^_^

  101. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 10:05 AM

    Peace!

    Our main export partners are: Singapore (15% of total exports), China (13%), Japan (12%), European Union (9%) and United states (9%).

    Our export to EU, U.S. and Japan is 30% from our total export.

    Our export to China and Singapore is 28% from our total export.

    Singapore is trading country. As such, most probably our 15% export to Singapore will ended up in EU, U.S., Japan and China.

    China is the factory for the whole world. As such, most probably our 13% export to China will also ended up in EU, U.S. and Japan.

    Simple calculation…

    1. Malaysia export of goods and services (% of GDP) in Malaysia was last reported at 97.30 in 2010.

    2. Malaysia export to EU, U.S., Japan, China and Singapore is 58% from Malaysia’s total export.

    3. As such, this 58% export is 56% from Malaysia’s GDP. In simple words, our export to EU, U.S., Japan, China and Singapore is 56% from our GDP. As such, our income from EU, U.S., Japan, China and Singapore is 56% from our GDP.

    4. The total of Malaysia’s government debt (53% from GDP) and non-government debt (115% from GDP) is 168% from GDP.

    5. When our income is 100% from GDP, and our debt is 168% from GDP, and then we loose 56% of our income, will this has no significant to our economy?

    6. Kasi senang paham macam ni la… duit kita ada RM 100 hinggit. Kemudian kita hilang sumber pendapatan sebanyak RM 56 hinggit. Jadi pendapatan kita sekarang tinggal RM 44 hinggit. Pada masa yang sama, kita ada hutang sebanyak RM 168 hinggit. Hutang kita sekarang menjadi hampir empat kali ganda daripada pendapatan kita. Masalah ke tak masalah?

    Regards.

  102. Dr Jafri Mar 4,2013 10:04 AM

    Sdr wajaperak,

    berkenaan IMP dan babi lain yang berkeliaran di blog Tun ini, saya akan cuba buat satu mithalan dari kisah benar.

    Seorang budak lelaki cina, anak kepada jiran saya, suka buat bising memukul gendang tak berhenti-henti siang dan malam, walaupun CNY dah lama berlalu. Oleh kerana budak ini hiperaktif akibat masalah ADHD, adalah tidak wajar untuk memarahi perbuatannya, apatah lagi gendang itu adalah hadiah dari bapanya sendiri, seorang akauntan profesional pro-pembangkang yang sangat chauvinist. Beberapa jiran yang baik hati telah tampil ke depan membantu dengan memberi budak itu buku, komik dan barang-barang mainan bagi mententeramkan suasana. Untuk satu jangka masa yang pendek, percubaan mereka nampak berjaya, tapi budak itu masih suka pada bunyi gendang dan kembali membuat bising. Apa nak buat? Bapa dia sendiri pun tak boleh kawal, malahan jadi ‘punca sebenar’ kepada masalah akustik ini. Orang Melayu ada mengata, bapa borek anak rintik.

    To cut a long story short, saya juga telah secara senyap-senyap memberi satu hadiah istimewa kepada budak itu – satu set screw driver dan tukul – dan memberi kata semangat kepadanya, “I wonder what’s inside that drum !” Sekarang ni, di kejiranan saya, sudah tidak kedengaran bunyi bising dari gendang itu lagi. Wallahu’alam, di mana relevan kisah kejiranan ini dengan tabiat makhluk perosak di dalam blog Tun, sama-samalah kita renungkan.

  103. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 9:57 AM

    Peace!

    Remember THE GREAT DEPRESSION? When U.S. economy was in trouble, it had devastating effects in other countries, rich and poor.

    Remember what happened to the whole world during the 1973 OIL CRISIS? When U.S. and few European countries got into economic crisis, the whole world follows.

    The same thing will happen… If EU, U.S. and Japan economy collapse, we will follow them too because we depend on them for our income (56% from GDP) and our debt (168% from GDP) is too high.

    Regards.

  104. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 9:53 AM

    Peace!

    Another simple calculation…

    Income 100% from GDP.

    Income from EU, US, Japan, China and Singapore is 56% from GDP.

    Non-government debt is 115% from GDP.

    Government debt is 53% from GDP.

    Let us assume Malaysian government revenue is 20% from GDP. It could be more, it could be less.

    When we loose 56% income from EU, U.S., Japan, China and Singapore, the following will happen :-

    Private income will drop from100% from GDP to 44% from GDP.

    Government income will drop from 20% from GDP to 9% from GDP. This drop exclude the drop of government income from Petronas. As such, Government income will drop below than 9% from GDP.

    However, non-government and government debt remain at 115% and 53%.

    To help we see the above scenario better, let’s change GDP to RM. This is how the above scenario will looks like :-

    Non-government income will drop from RM 100 to RM 44. However, non-government debt remain at RM 115.

    Government income will drop from RM 20 to RM 9. Government debt remain at RM 53.

    Imagine you have RM 44 in your pocket but your debt is RM 115. Your debt is 2.6 times than the money you have.

    Imagine you have RM 9 in your pocket but your debt is RM 53. Your debt is 5.8 times than the money you have.

    Assuming the effect to Malaysia’s economy is not 100% but 50% only. Still, non-government income will drop from RM 100 to RM 72. Debt remains at RM 115. Non-government debt is then 1.6 times than the money which the non-government entities have.

    As for the Malaysian government, it’s income will drop from RM 20 to RM 15. Debt remains at RM 53. Government debt is now at 3.5 times than the money which the Government has.

    It is still devastating.

    You (Malaysia) are in trouble when your customers (EU, U.S., Japan, China, Singapore) are in trouble because they (EU, U.S., Japan, China, Singapore) stop buying from you at time when you (Malaysia) have too much debt.

    Regards.

  105. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 9:19 AM

    Peace!

    Remember The Great Depression? When U.S. economy was in trouble, it had devastating effects in other countries, rich and poor.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression

    Remember what happened to the whole world during the 1973 oil crisis? When U.S. and few European countries got into economic crisis, the whole world follows.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The same thing will happen… If EU, U.S. and Japan economy collapse, we will follow them too because we depend on them for our income (56% from GDP) and our debt (168% from GDP) is too high.

    Regards.

  106. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 9:14 AM

    Peace!

    Simple calculation…

    1. Malaysia export of goods and services (% of GDP) in Malaysia was last reported at 97.30 in 2010.

    2. Malaysia export to EU, U.S., Japan, China and Singapore is 58% from Malaysia’s total export.

    3. As such, this 58% export is 56.43% from Malaysia’s GDP. In simple words, our export to EU, U.S., Japan, China and Singapore is 56.43% from our GDP. As such, our income from EU, U.S., Japan, China and Singapore is 56.43% from our GDP.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/exports-of-goods-and-services-percent-of-gdp-wb-data.html

    4. The total of Malaysia’s government debt (53% from GDP) and non-government debt (115% from GDP) is 168% from GDP.

    http://www.ahamedkameel.com/archives/509

    5. When our income is 100% from GDP, and our debt is 168% from GDP, and then we loose 56.43% of our income, will this has no significant to our economy?

    6. Kasi senang paham macam ni la… duit kita ada RM 100 hinggit. Kemudian kita hilang sumber pendapatan sebanyak RM 56 hinggit. Jadi pendapatan kita sekarang tinggal RM 44 hinggit. Pada masa yang sama, kita ada hutang sebanyak RM 168 hinggit. Hutang kita sekarang menjadi empat kali ganda daripada pendapatan kita. Masalah ke tak masalah?

    Regards.

  107. anti-jibaok Mar 4,2013 9:10 AM

    All are encouraged to digest upon this 4-hour long video to grasp the rudiments and nature of money for what it is.., as below:-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xx_5PuLIzc

    The title of the video – “The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of The World” begins by inviting us all to contemplate upon – ‘A world without Money’.

    The video continues to suggest that – “Money is only worth what others are willing exchange for it”.

    It goes on to elaborate that – “Money is about trust” and tapers-off touching about the Bond Market in suggesting that – “War is impossible if you don’t have the money to pay for it..!”

    The central lesson of the financial history is that sooner or later every bubble bursts, sooner or later the bearish sellers outnumber the bullish buyers, sooner or later greed flips into fear. The video bears much relevance to this forum’s topic of – ‘Humpty Dumpty’.

    Happy viewing.

  108. HBT456 Mar 4,2013 8:53 AM

    Sudin,

    It’s up to you, Sudin.

    You nak jadi anjing atau kerbau, it’s up to you.

  109. sudin Mar 4,2013 8:34 AM

    Salam Tun.

    Ada seekor anjing tu gigit polis sampai berdarah, kemudian baring tengah jalanraya sikit pun tak takut kat truck FRU. Malah dia jelir lidah panjang2 kat truck tu suruh langgar!
    Tiap2 kali nampak polis dia nak gigit.
    Semua tindakan polis dia akan menyalak woof woof woof!

    Ada seekor penjual sayur di slog Tun yang mengakui diri “aku babi”, dan sentiasa membela serta menyokong anjing bergelar tianchua tu!
    Kedua2 binatang najis tu memang tak sepatutnya dan tak layak berada di bumi Malaysia ni!!
    Orang2 Melayu akan berterusan membenci binatang2 tersebut dan keturunannya.
    Makhluk jahanam!

  110. thaiso Mar 4,2013 7:52 AM

    8 orang mati Najib oi!

    Lagi mau cakap sombong ke Najib, 7 minit boleh setel?

  111. thaiso Mar 4,2013 7:47 AM

    Datuk Najib weh,

    Bila pewaris sebenar menuntut, memang mereka berhak menuntut.

    Mana ada dalangnya bila mereka menuntut.

    Kekuatan mereka bukan pada senjata, tapi pada darah keturunan mereka.

    What are you doing?

    Hantar ustaz Azhar Idrus pun boleh settle.

  112. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 7:14 AM

    Peace!

    Our main export partners are: Singapore (15 percent of total exports), China (13 percent), Japan (12 percent), European Union (9 percent) and United states (9 percent).

    Our export to EU, U.S. and Japan is 30% from our total export.

    Our export to China and Singapore is 28% from our total export.

    Singapore is trading country. As such, a big portion of our 15% export to Singapore ended up in EU, U.S., Japan and China.

    China is the factory for the whole world. As such, a big portion of our 13% export to China also ended up in EU, U.S. and Japan.

    Our export to these countries (EU, U.S., Japan, China, Singapore) is 58% from our total export. WE ARE DEPENDING ON THEM.

    The Exports of goods and services (% of GDP) in Malaysia was last reported at 97.30 in 2010, according to a World Bank report published in 2012. As such, this 58% export is equivalent to 56.43% of our GDP.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/exports-of-goods-and-services-percent-of-gdp-wb-data.html

    Remember The Great Depression? When U.S. economy was in trouble, it had devastating effects in other countries, rich and poor.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression

    Remember what happened to the whole world during the 1973 oil crisis? When U.S. and few European countries got into economic crisis, the whole world follows.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The same thing will happen… If EU, U.S. and Japan economy collapse, we will follow them too because we depend on them for our export income (56.43% from our GDP) and our debt (government debt – 53% from GDP, private debt, and household debt – 76% from GDP) are too high.

    Senang cerita macam ni la… Ini cuma contoh sahaja… Bayangkan hutang kita tengah banyak keliling pinggang. Tiba-tiba datang satu krisis yang menyebabkan pendapatan kita berkurangan. Agak-agak senang ke untuk kita survive? Bila hutang kita banyak dan sumber pendapatan kita berkurangan, kita akan dilanda masalah. Tetapi, kalau hutang kita sedikit dan kemudiannya krisis melanda menyebabkan pendapatan kita berkurangan, InsyaALLAH kita boleh bertahan.

    Rgds.

  113. mubarakchan Mar 4,2013 6:11 AM

    Tun

    Some additions to my previous comment.

    2 The 2 child family…………. Vide The Star. Seah Chiang Nee Column. Saturday

    6. The daily importation of 5000 pigs…….And the sale of Kim Eng Securities to Maybank.

  114. The Hidden Secret Mar 4,2013 2:18 AM

    Peace!

    The Exports of goods and services (% of GDP) in Malaysia was last reported at 97.30 in 2010.

    58% from 97.3% is 56.43%.

    As such, 56.43% of our income comes from our export to EU, U.S., Japan, China and Singapore.

    Thus, I repeat my statement… IF EU, U.S. AND JAPAN GET INTO TROUBLE, MALAYSIA WILL GET INTO TROUBLE ALSO.

    If we wish to reduce our trouble, we have to reduce our debt (government, private and household).

    Regards.

  115. sudin Mar 3,2013 10:27 PM

    Salam Tun.

    Tak fahamlah kenapa si babi tu tak disembelih/dikorbankan!!
    Tak malu orang2 lain mentertawakan sikap binatang terkeji tu!

    Tulis berputar belit, lain yang ditulis lain yang diertikan.
    Bohong tak habis2.
    Kalau nak ditafsirkan low intelligence yang kerap ditunjukkannya, sepatutnya dia merempat dalam dunia ni! Jual sayur pun orang tak sudi datang!

    Tak sedar diri bahawa segala yang dia ada adalah semata2 kerana sikap rasis bangsanya yang meminggir kaum lain dan memberi ruang untuk dia hidup senang!

    Yang anihnya sehingga sekarang dia belum sedar low intelligence yang dimilikinya!

  116. mubarakchan Mar 3,2013 9:36 PM

    Tun

    First, I would like to express my deepest and heartfelt sympathies and condolences to the bereaved families of our fallen heroes at Lahat Datu.

    Second, I like to express again the failed policies of Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore because of HBT456 snide remarks on facts from the Singaporean and International media as presented by me. And to the Bloggers newly acquainted with this distinguished Blog.

    Lee Kuan Yew recently said that his first intention was to have a clean Government. All Prime Ministers of the World surely must have had this intention. The following :-

    1. Money was used as an instrument of foreign policy resulting in the deaths and injuries to innocent men, women and children. Malaysia has no blood on her hands. Vide. ASEAN Regional News on Thaksin.

    2. The 2 child family of the 1970s and the 1980s reduced drastically Singapore’s indigenous population. When Lee Kuan Yew assumed power in 1959, the indigenous population was 100%.
    By 2013, the indigenous population was down to 62% and to 45% by 2030. Vide The Singapore Government White Paper on Population. Which Government in the World reduced a population of supporters like this except Hitler ?

    3. US$108 Billions (RM350 Billions) of the citizens trust money was lost in a jiffy in October 2008 on Wall Street. Vide. Channelnewsasia. Lee Kuan Yew November 2008. Financial Times London. Gillian Tett. April 2010.’Singapore’s Harvard Investment Model’. All Singaporean Blogs. 2009-2013.

    4. Humanity and Multiculturalism was never practised. Early on, places of worship were demolished until someone told the Boss to stop. Also, the Curry Smell Tribunal, the Toilet Fights, the 188 bus drivers strike, 3,000 protesters at Speakers Corner, etc. etc. Vide. Channelnewsasia.

    5. A perfunctory Judiciary System which is well-known world wide. Vide. Admiral Canaris was stripped naked by Hitler to demean him and hung him naked with piano wires. The unfortunate and fortunate Dr Chee. The unfortunate and unfortunate Tan Koon Swan. Dr Woffles Wu. Shaw. The Australian and German drug mules. etc.etc.

    6. The daily importation of 5,000 pigs. Flower nursery contracts.etc.etc. The biggest football match rigging was alleged to be based in Singapore. Vide. BBC.

    7. Lee Kuan Yew is a one-man ruler for over 55 years over Singapore during which time Malaysia has had 5 democratically elected Prime Ministers. He is still there. A source said he will be there the next 10 years.

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. Please clear the cobwebs from your minds and see the light – the reliability of the BN as led by the UMNO with 14 component parties to deliver the goodies always.

  117. HBT456 Mar 3,2013 7:07 PM

    What Wajaperak wants to say, it’s alright, Tired.

    Don’t be too confident about the situation here and that of Sabah after years of cheating there and here.

    After Anwar, as usual they start pointing fingers at Tian Chua, it will only make PKR stronger and more popular.

    Will their lives at risk due to kebencian macam Wajaperak.

    It won’t be because Tian Chua is not the one who robbed the land of the people for industry purpose.

    ww.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/asia/story/china-village-defies-officials-demand-democracy-20130303

  118. Tired Mar 3,2013 6:54 PM

    Salam Tun,

    Tumpang lalu; terima kasih, Tun!

    The Hidden Secret,

    “6. Do you know why we spent 2/3 of our income on house and car? Because the price of house and car are way too expensive. Do you know why the price are too expensive? Because the developer are greedy and the government allows the, to be greedy. Our cars are expensive because of the AP, import duty, excise duty and sales tax.” And, “9. We should worry and talk about ourself first before we talk about others. And, “10. As mentioned earlier, the increase of household debt was the reason for the U.S. and EU economic crisin in 2007-2012. So we need to reduce our household debt. As such, we need to reduce our properties and vehicles prices as they represent 2/3 of our household debt. If we are still stubborn and refuse to reduce these two, once the economy of EU or U.S. or Japan or even Singapore collapse, we will collapse too because of our open economy.”

    1. This process is called “Economy.” I am surprised that you did not know that? It consists of the economic system of a country or other area; the labor, capital, and land resources; and the manufacturing, production, trade, distribution, and consumption of goods and services of that area. A given economy is the result of a process that involves its technological evolution, history and social organization, as well as its geography, natural resource endowment, and ecology, as main factors. These factors give context, content, and set the conditions and parameters in which an economy functions. A market-based economy may be described as a spatially limited social network where goods and services are freely produced and exchanged according to demand and supply between participants (economic agents) by barter or a medium of exchange with a credit or debit value accepted within the network. Capital and labor can move freely across places, industries and firms in search of higher profits, dividends, interest, compensations and benefits. Rent on land allocates this generally fixed resource among competing users. Contemporary Capitalism is a market economy in which most of the production capacity is owned and directed by the private sector. Government role (Tun’s role too then, not now!^_^ ) is limited, to a great extent, to the following tasks: providing for defense and internal security, administering justice and prisons, making laws and regulations, enforcing contracts, laws and regulations, correcting market imperfections and failures, ensuring full employment without inflation, promoting balanced economic growth and development, providing for the poor, children, and elderly, protecting against and assisting in emergencies and natural disasters, providing basic opportunities to all members of society, preventing future calamities and disasters, and pursuing national goals established by society at large such as protection of the environment and natural resources. Government levies taxes and borrow money to pay for the goods and services it provides to society.

    2. On the other hand, traditional socialism like what PRC used to be is a command-based economy in which markets and the free exchange of goods and services, as well as manufacturing, production, trade and distribution are replaced or done by government central planning and state owned enterprises. In this economy all private owners of capital (called capitalist) and of land (called landowners) are not allowed or banned; and the only permitted private ownership is of consumption goods. Capital labor, and land are assigned by the state and free movement of labor is severely restricted. There are no profits, dividends, interest or rent. Labor compensation and benefits as well as investment expenditures are decided by central planners. Source: Wikipedia (too!).

    3. Finally, a mixed economy like that what our country (if you’re a Malaysian, that is!) contains elements of both capitalism and socialism which essentially means a market-based economy with a varied degrees of government central planning and state owned enterprises.

    4. Luckily, Syed Mokhtar’s debt is about 10% from the total domestic loan amount in Malaysia; otherwise, we would all be his slaves including the Government! Don’t you reckon?

    5. This fact is no secret as much as your acronym suggest! Thus,”what’s so secret when it is hidden?”

    6. Pls stop trying to be a smart alec when you don’t know what you are talking about especially in dragging Tun into your skewed mind!

    7. The simple answer to all your difficult equation is for as long as there’s demand, there’s supply! Even PRC is opening her trillion dollar economy, for that simple reason simply, and yet you want to sound like Nobel Laurette Prof Dr Joseph E Stiglitz…Plueeez…LMFAO

    8. Anyway, Peace! (Since Tun did not answer your question, I took the liberty to answer it on his behalf. I’m as much as a ‘smart alec’ as you too!^_^)

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.

    P.s.

    1. Dr Jafri,
    One this Decembers, I’ll have you check my brain, as I believe it is overworked!!!LOL

    2. Sdr Wajaperak,
    Take it easy! Dr Jafri and I know what we’re doing. We don’t meant any harm towards anyone; alive or dead. We said what needed saying; no more, no less. Fyi, Dr Jafri is an authority on Allah SWT’s most precious gift to you and all of us! Get to know him better, and you’ll be alright, Insyallah. Trust me!

  119. wajaperak Mar 3,2013 6:41 PM

    Assallammualaikum Tun..
    Terima kasih..
    Puan Hajar..
    such a brave word..But do you realizes the magnitude of the situation?
    Only they who fully trained and officially at them who truly do.
    In World War 2, there is many account of how the war happened and the account of the happening.Layman should comment on their capacities of layman.
    It will be glaring foolish of me to tell Dr Jafri how to perform I&D ( Incision and Drainage ) but even layman can contribute in the CPG ( Clinical Practice Guideline ).
    Captain W.E John echoes the maxim of the Dogfight.
    Leave the fighting to the machine design for them.
    Leave the fighting to our security forces.
    We are in good hand.
    But you can call the head of the politician’s who push the pen and the pencil!…

    Tun..
    Terima kasih.

  120. wajaperak Mar 3,2013 6:29 PM

    Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh..
    Terima kasih Tun kerana ruangan..
    Dear Dr Jafri..
    I am much saddened by your comment.I believe you have forgotten but not forsaken I hope that in Islam there is knowledge..and there is degree of knowledge..There is skill and there is degree of skill.You have not touch this matter nor do you hunt down imam malaysia perasan from this onward classified as IMP.
    I have known personally a few Datuk’s.From my social ‘integration’ with them,I believe they lost touch with the people on the street they represent.They live in their jade or ivory tower and have forgotten the root of the structure is populated by tramp,transient,vagabond and myself.
    I made this concise by a remark from an acquitance Dr of mine.
    In this world there is only two ( 2 ) kind of people.
    Dr and non Dr.
    Yes it is true..
    But it take the crap like me to remove the sweat from your countenance the moment you perform the operation where both your hand preoccupied and me to shine your shoes outside the operating theater..
    Please take stock and reflect back the role of ‘Islamist’.
    I could give a helping hand but alas..My IQ and EQ allows me to be Ofiice Boy only..:(

    Dear Mr Tired…
    I do not take kindly your kafirian joke about lawyers.
    Do you want me to laugh about the joke that even Muhammad must go to the mountain??

    Tun..
    Apakah ciri-ciri binatang itu?..
    Seperti Kaldai yang memikul kitab.
    Seperti Anjing yang menjelirkan lidahnya..
    Seperti mereka yang memakan bangkai saudara mereka yang sudah mati..
    Seperti HBT yang menyerang Islam kerana kebencian..

    TIAN CHUA..

    KAU INI MEMANG BINATANG!!!!!

    Minta maaf Tun.
    Terima kasih.

  121. hajar Mar 3,2013 5:57 PM

    Dearest YAB Tun,

    1. Mohon laluan Tun:

    Dr. Mubarak Chan, keep on writing. Your postings contain a lot of FACTS. At least we learn something from someone very experienced and knowledgeable. I know you also studied at Cambridge .

    2. Tun, saya sedih bila membaca berita ada lagi anggota Polis yang terkorban – menurut laporan 5 Polis terkorban di Semporna semalam. Saya sarankan supaya PDRM dan ATM SERANG saja penceroboh tanpa membahayakan nyawa mereka sendiri setelah yakin akan lokasi ”intruders”. Jika penceroboh boleh menggunakan bom mortar (atau guna cara lain untuk mengelak pergi terlalu dekat ke lokasi penceroboh), mengapa tidak pihak berkuasa menggunakan taktik yang sama. Jika berjalan saja (seperti yang terjadi di Semporna) ke arah premis disyaki, sudah tentu senang saja kena tembak sebab mereka terdedah kepada sebarang bentuk serangan dari Penceroboh di dalam premis tersebut; yang berada di dalam premis boleh berlindung. Nyawa pihak Polis/Tentera amat berharga; ini bukan cerita ”Rambo” atau ”Hisdustan” bilamana hero boleh elak tembakan bertubi-tubi sebab cuma lakonan saja. Saya kasihan melihat ahli keluarga Pahlawan2 kita yang terkorban.

    Please advise our PM to take STERN actions against the ”armed intruders”. Tidak perlu lagi berlembut. Kita kena TEGAS.

    Jika saya ada kuasa, saya tidak akan bertolak-ansur dengan Penceroboh-Penceroboh tersebut. Mereka yang kenal saya tahu yang saya akan kotakan kata-kata saya, tapi saya yakin saya bukan dalam majoriti. Jika saya ambil tindakan, mungkin saya dianggap kejam pula. Saya tidak kisah dianggap kejam asalkan saya buat apa yang sepatutnya dibuat. Jadi pihak berkuasa, tolonglah hapuskan Penceroboh-Penceroboh tersebut. Sudahlah masuk negara orang secara haram, boleh pula sesuka hati membunuh pihak yang sah-sah rakyat Malaysia.

    Jangan nanti jadi macam ”Humpty Dumpty”. Sudah hancur baru terkial-kial untuk membetulkan keadaan…

    Thanks Tun.

    *** May Allah SWT bless Tun and family ***

  122. mubarakchan Mar 3,2013 4:35 PM

    Tun

    For Mr HBT456 the lady with the moustache who talks like a man.

    Wake up ! You are blogging in a distinguished political Blog.

    Further, Dr Tony Pua of the Daddy’s Action Party who went up to Cambridge like Lee Kuan Yew by the back door after discovering and confirming on 2 March 2013 and after 44 years in the Opposition loudly and proudly confirms that our beloved Malaysia’s politics is Bumiputra (Malay) based. To add to Daddy’s Action Party inertness for 44 years and proven Chinese chauvinism by themselves because one Muslim gentleman was pulled on board at the last minute recently, the Daddy’s Action Party after years of derring-do, admits, not finally admits, that they play THIRD FIDDLE TO PAS AND PKR in this me’nage a trois’ ! At least in the BN as led by the UMNO with 14 component parties, all are equal partners. There is a nursery rhyme ‘ The Cat and the Fiddle’.

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. It is crystal clear what Daddy’s Action Party told us all the time are different tunes all the time. You can some of the the people all the time, and all the people some of the time but you cannot con all the people all the time. This also applies to Mr HBT456 the lady with the moustache who talks like a man.

  123. mubarakchan Mar 3,2013 4:21 PM

    Tun

    For Mr HBT456 the lady with the moustache who talks like a man. And she/he wants to dominate everyone on this Blog and defends the great Lee Kuan Yew. And definitely thinks he/she is a better Malaysian than all of us, and a super chinaman/woman too. A friend once told me he does not trust Chinaman/woman with moustache !

    Dr Tony Pua of Daddy’s Action Party who went up to Cambridge like Lee Kuan Yew by the back door has confirmed that the Bumiputras (Malays) is the political base of our beloved Malaysia. It took him and the Daddy’s Action Party 44 long years to find out about those Opposition fellows sitting next to him. During this 44 long years, the Daddy’s Action Party waited until the Malaysian Chinese goose is properly cook and well-done before jumping in like the Batman or the knight in shining armour to save the day. Why let the Malaysian Chinese and all the Malaysians have the benefit of the Daddy’s Action Party’s wisdom and leadership during this 44 long years ? Why now ? Go home to Daddy Daddy’s Action Party. Like Mr HBT456 the lady with the moustache who claims to vote for BN but wallop the good Mubarakchan all the time. Stupid !

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. Malaysia is our finest home for all of us and through the BN as led by the UMNO’s and the 14 component parties’ sweat and toil, we are where we are today. We are just on the threshold of a greater achievement to come. Don not let glib talk, quick turn of the brain and no record individuals sway you with rubbish !

  124. HBT456 Mar 3,2013 12:47 PM

    Sir Mubarak Chan,

    You are too obsessive with your political view.

    May be you have took things for granted far too long that you don’t remember what you did.

    Brush up your mother tongue language so that you can understand yourself better as Malaysian.

    Multi-lingual is Hak Istimewa Negaraku is envied and loved by locals and foreigners.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPzJpZx4Mf0

    Enjoy yourself, Sir.

    P.S. I am just a pengundi warganegara Malaysia…

  125. mubarakchan Mar 3,2013 12:34 PM

    Tun

    For Mr HBT456 the lady with the moustache who talks like a man.

    The PAP of Singapore was founded in 1955.

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. Do not be swayed by all sorts of rumours. Always remember the mainstream of events through the ages, through the decades as led by the BN with the UMNO leadership and 14 component parties. Even Dr Tony Pua of Daddy’s Action Party who went into Cambridge like Lee Kuan Yew by the back door says so. POLITICS IN OUR BELOVED MALAYSIA IS BUMIPUTRA (MALAY) BASED. No more. No less.

  126. mubarakchan Mar 3,2013 12:24 PM

    Tun

    This is specially for MrHBT456 the lady with the moustache who talks like a man. Please remember and do not conveniently forget what I said about Lee Kuan Yew and Singapore.

    1. My elder sister married the only younger brother of Tun Sir Colonel Lee Hau Shik, Malaya’s first Finance Minister in 1938.

    2. My elder brother married Lee Kuan Yew’s only sister, Monica, in October 1951. That was when my political observations began.

    3. In 1969, Tun Tan Siew Sin invited me to stand for the State seat of Kuala Kubu Baru, Selangor. He told me it was the best for a Chinaman. I declined. In 2 January 1973, Tun Tan again invited me to take-over his safe seat of Batu Berendam, Melaka. I declined. He assured me I would be a Deputy Minister of Finance.

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. I spent a lifetime studying the good and the great on both sides of the Causeway. I could find no better political group than the BN as led by the UMNO with 14 component parties through my independent studies. No need any faction for me. This is my honest opinion of a lifetime. Vote BN and create World’s best history for our beloved Malaysia and all Malaysians, the good and the bad, the beautiful and ugly, the young and the old !

  127. balance Mar 3,2013 12:18 PM

    This is the correct way by Dr Jafri

    “With all these shenanigan displays of haughtiness, they in fact, should be properly termed as Islamist. Because they worship Islam, not Allah. The Real Muslims pray and worship Allah and they dont worship a religion nor do they kill or get killed in the name of Islam.”

    i salute you for the comment and sharing.

  128. HBT456 Mar 3,2013 11:50 AM

    Don’t give up, PM Najib.

    It’s not you fault as you are still new in this position surrounded by the koncu2 of Mahathir and Pak Lah.

    Pak Lah got 70% rating by Merdeka Centre, he lost 2/3 majority.

    Remember what your 1st speech was when you were appointed as PM.

    As MoD, if you received calls in the middle of the night, that’s nothing you can do as you are dealing with the deaths.

    As PM, if you receive call in the middle of the night, something terrible might happened to the share market as you are dealing with people who are alive.

    Keep it up, PM Najib.

    After GE13th, we have GE14th and so on….

    My votes are for you, PM Najib.

  129. HBT456 Mar 3,2013 11:28 AM

    By the way, sex, under ground and sport betting service industry in Japan is contributing huge income to the Emperor and Cabinet as part of Japanese economy, why UMNO can allow its component parties to stand on “elegant silent” mode to tolerate that?

    Mereka boleh buat, DSAI tak boleh buat ke as jantan?

    Well, they really think that Malaysians are stupid and do not know what is going on in the world.

  130. HBT456 Mar 3,2013 10:53 AM

    RM130 million, it’s RM130 billion.

  131. The Hidden Secret Mar 3,2013 10:52 AM

    Peace Tun.

    1. Our public debt is around 53% from our GDP.

    2. Our private debt is around… Hmm… I don’t know.

    3. Our household debt is around 76% from our GDP. A significant rise in this debt was the cause of U.S. and EU economic crisis in 2007-2012.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_debt

    4. Syed Mokhtar’s debt is about 10% from the total domestic loan amount in Malaysia if I am not mistaken.

    5. Do you know why does our household debt is 76% from our GDP? It is because of the car loan and the housing loan. 2/3 of our household monthly income is being spend to pay our housing and car loans. The remaining 1/3 is being spend for food, education, hutang PTPTN, parents and family members, entertainment etc. To make thing worst, this remaining 1/3 spending is largely by credit card. There we go… 76% household debt from our GDP.

    6. Do you know why we spent 2/3 of our income on house and car? Because the price of house and car are way too expensive. Do you know why the price are too expensive? Because the developer are greedy and the government allows the, to be greedy. Our cars are expensive because of the AP, import duty, excise duty and sales tax.

    7. EU, U.S. And Japan are in deep s**t. The amount of EU and U.S. debt are immense. Japan’s interest rate is already at 0%.

    8. Should the economy of EU or U.S. or Japan or even Singapore collapse, we will collapse too.

    9. We should worry and talk about ourself first before we talk about others.

    10. As mentioned earlier, the increase of household debt was the reason for the U.S. and EU economic crisin in 2007-2012. So we need to reduce our household debt. As such, we need to reduce our properties and vehicles prices as they represent 2/3 of our household debt. If we are still stubborn and refuse to reduce these two, once the economy of EU or U.S. or Japan or even Singapore collapse, we will collapse too because of our open economy.

    Rgds.

  132. HBT456 Mar 3,2013 10:39 AM

    More fire means peperangan mulut, the better, in this coming general election.

    More chefs will spoil the soup.

    By the end, nothing is achieved in the name of peperangan mulut, atau peperangan M16 & M14.

    I like the advanced countries’ leaderships whom treat their job scope voted by the people as paid skilled and professionalism is to solve the issues affecting the people, not to get rich ala monopoly wise, via democratic process whereby we can debate the issues facing the voters.

    The Malaysian tax system is similar to USA model whereby revenue from the Bankers, Investment Companies, GLC companies, Multi-National, Multi-International companies, private entrepreneurs of SMI and property developers are used to fund the Federal Government.

    Therefore, do not talk big that MoF can kutip RM130 million by forcing these Humpty Dumty as taxpayers to leave the country that caused more brain drains to other countries.

  133. HBT456 Mar 3,2013 9:03 AM

    Sir Mubarak Chan,

    If that’s the case, let the show begin.

    I was having a birthday dinner with my family in a very famous Chinese owned restaurant last night.

    Lion dance and Negaraku were being played by DAP’s fund raising function in the next hall.

    You know what, 10 out of 10 Chinese as pribumi being labeled as non-Bumiputra by MCA and Gerakan have already decided to support Daddy Action Party in Peninsula.

    I sure hope that Sir Mubarak Chan’s faction in MCA, our BN coalition that always Making Chinese Angry party that have treated the Chinese as “no voting right” citizens all these years will do what President Chua claimed, “if MCA cannot secure 15 Parliament seats, they will not take any Cabinet positions” to respect the Chinese community.

    After hearing so much grievances from their side, it’s time to let the Chinese decide who they want as their Wakil Rakyat and MPs to contest for the Federal Government.

    Will Ong Tee Keat as MP for 20 years contests in Pandan Indah as per Najib’s instruction to show the Chinese that he is the puppet to UMNO again, and again?

    Will Ong Tee Keat join opposition party if he can’t get along with Chua?

    No need to bergaduh.

    Why?

    Without pribumi as non-bumiputra votes they are nothing.

    Top down instructions do not work in the time of global uncertainties in the past, present and future because we have general elections in every 5 years.

    Malaysia economy is resilient, vibrant and can adapt to world global crisis.

    Using Singapore, Anwar and Sulu as the fear factors will not guarantee BN can win 2/3 majority to retain Penang and the states under PR now.

    Getting support from pribumi as non-Bumiputra voptes can guarantee PR to sit in Putrajaya.

    More fire, the better, man, it’s general election time.

  134. thaiso Mar 3,2013 8:55 AM

    Najib oi!

    Bahalul mana dalam polis VAT69 dan askar guna perkataan ‘taktik kotor’?

    Rakyat tak mahu tahu la Anwar ke Tian Chua ke….

    What are you doing?

  135. mubarakchan Mar 3,2013 12:30 AM

    Tun

    Fortunately, Malaysia became a runaway success in human terms and Singapore a runaway failure for the simple reason that we did not stress excellence in academic qualifications at Oxbridge or the Ivy League as the benchmark to judge a person’s ability. This is abnormal and non-egalitarian. Such a measuring scale is only good for specialised jobs and not for jobs with questions for all sorts of problems. But somehow to reach beyond the middle income trap, Malaysia has to review its available productive human resources to drive us there.

    Again, Singapore is a good example how too meritocratic a systeme can go horribly wrong. First, the very long term planning that needs to be properly thought out in a free World unlike yesterday. See the F-16s, the brigades of aging Gurkha Guards, the submarines, the rusting tanks, the Apaches etc. Whether these are Lend-lease or not, depreciation and the cost bear heavily on a very small country with no resources. To govern this place, it is like standing on a knife’s edge. One slip and the whole edifice is gone. This really happened in October 2008. Then, as always, all the bad news come at once.

    If Singapore had built up a few thousand tons of gold, even thought it might not be kept there, people would have the impression that it is there. The magnitude of her influence in World affairs would have been beyond imagination. The huge military would have something to protect. As it is, it protects nothing.

    And most importantly, Singapore’s control over Malaysia would be as easy a ABC by the touch of a button rigging the price of gold up or down. The whole World would salaam at Singapore’s doorstep. She need not be so crude as to be uncomplimentary to Malaysia in her media, covert political stooges, or open support of the Opposition to the Government etc.etc.

    The meritocratic pyramid failed with the smartest fellow on top. Like Humpty-Dumpty, confidence and self-esteem is lost forever. The whole World now goes on along its undefinable journey and stragglers are not taken prisoners. What a horrible thought for the financial mess the World is in now ! Man proposes. God disposes.

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. The next General Elections is very serious and is not going to be a tea party for any one because from the onwards it is only the BN as led by the UMNO and the 14 component parties who will take measure to protect us from the impending storm. The DAP leadership lacks the excellent academic credentials of the great Lee Kuan Yew and may not think out its options properly. Like as declared by Dr Pua who went to Cambridge like Lee Kuan Yew through the back-door, Daddy’s Action Party is willing to play 3rd fiddle to PAS and PKR ! Go home to Daddy Daddy’s Action Party !

  136. Tired Mar 2,2013 6:27 PM

    Salam, Tun.

    Tumpang lalu; terima kasih, Tun!

    Alfred Willner,

    1. Danke für das Kompliment! Ich lernte Deutsch an der Hochschule. Sie haben einen guten Abend!

    2. I regret this misunderstanding has dismayed you, Alfred. Sorry!

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.”

    P.s.

    1. HBT456,
    Thank you, for you update on ‘Andy Lau.’

    2. Sdr Dr Jafri,
    ROFLTMLO and that makes two recalcitrant! And them Inso ppl are sharks, ops sorry, snake, and ops sorry: blind me! lawyers in disguise too, and of course with a lower rate of conscience too, hahaha. But, wow! That was some posting you did there, Doc! At least now I know why I will never ever going to get that elusive PhD!!!

  137. Jojo Mar 2,2013 6:21 PM

    wah.. best la tok det punya word press ni! bermanfaat ! saya boleh dianggap pangkat cucu pada tok det harap lain kali kalau ada jemputan jgn lupa dtg Ipoh. teringin sangat nak jumpa tok det lagi!, haritu last jumpa masa kat bangunan SUK, ipoh ada program PGPF dekat sana, kami bdk form 6 ckg bawa pergi sana, best sangat itu lah pertama kali dalam hidup jumpa tok det! semoga sihat selalu tok det!

  138. alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi Mar 2,2013 4:36 PM

    Salam, Tun!

    Please allow me another short note to “Tired”.

    I have read your posting dated March 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM and yes, we are clear now.

    Danke fuer die Aufklaerung! Ich hatte Ihre Nachricht in Deutscher Sprache tatsaechlich vorher nicht gesehen! Sie schreiben sehr schoen Deutsch. Wo haben Sie es gelernt?

    What saddens me a bit is that every time I reply to one of your postings, dear Tun, I seem to get wrapped up in General Election Discussions which is of course the very least thing I want to do. About time the GE came by now and is come over with so we can thereafter communicate here with more ease again.

    Kind regards!

    Alfred Willner

  139. HBT456 Mar 2,2013 4:30 PM

    mgpunya,

    Similarly, buffalo meat also cannot lah because it is haram in Malaysia market too especially to local Buddhists, Christians and Hindu.

    When McD knows about this horse meat issue (note: horse and dog including cat meats are halal in Mongolia and Guangzhou restaurants as long as no one make official complaint, respectively), the top management immediately made a official press statement to the world, and they rectified this problem after receiving complaints from Regional Consumer Bureau.

    That’s one case with our Ikea’s hot dog, also kena because some Jakim made the press statement, the supplier needs to close down, if I am not mistaken.

    What is the mind of Tian Chua, I do not know.

    What is in your mind, I can understand since it’s still BN that rules in Malaysia.

    I think mgpunya heard of toxic milk scandal that is approved by authority macam Sirim kita ini in China.

    Because the state government took drastic measure to save their faces and sentenced the owners on death penalty without allowing them the opportunity to “bela” themselves in the court, since the Kerajaan always think they know all, the impact of consumer panic, PRC nationals went down to Hongkong and buy milk that cause Hongkongers can’t buy the milk themselves.

    Today, PRC nationals cannot go down to Hongkong as and when they like.

  140. mgpunya Mar 2,2013 3:57 PM

    YABhg Tun,

    ….Tian Chua, I’ve been thinking about your Lahad Datu UMNO conspiracy theory. Now that you mention it….I think the floods in some of the states in peninsular is the work of UMNO as well!!!
    I think it’s not so good to carry around so much hate……it can cloud your thinking.

  141. mgpunya Mar 2,2013 3:32 PM

    YABhg Tun,

    ……..horsemeat any one…..??

  142. amin tan Mar 2,2013 3:08 PM

    Dear Tun,
    A few weeks ago we conducted a survey or opinion poll to gauge the chances of winning for either BN and PR in the coming PRU13. We took random samples from different segments of society. Here is my frank and honest assessment of the political situation on the ground
    1. BN is heading for unprecedentedly huge majority win across the country in spite of the PR hype prior to the poll.
    2. The Malays have finally rallied at the last moment in huge numbers to help the floundering BN. THE CHINESE who are always economic and money minded, fear the impending collapse of the share market should there be a change of government and civil disorder also overwhelmingly vote BN. The Indians always follow the Chinese for guidance. Only about 10%, mostly party activists and employees and a few George Soros’ sympathisers and beneficiaries , like Ambiga and Samad are left to vote for the badly trounced Opposition.
    3. As usual, the Opposition accuse the SPR and BN of vote buying and cheating in the polls. This is to be expected from a sore loser as we still retain some third world mentality.
    4. Eventually ,after a cliff hanging episode and a period of suspense, we have a happy ending for Malaysia. The multi racial and multi religious people of Malaysia live in peace and harmony ever after.

    amin tan

  143. Dr Jafri Mar 2,2013 1:57 PM

    This is a little off the curve from the topical Hamti Damti, but I have twisted the tail end a little bit to imitate the planes of 911.

    However to start with, to dive into the oceans of ignorance, if I may .. and emerge with just a tiny pearl of truth, on the issue of misusing public funds and public trust, to be stringed together to later decorate Damti’s foul and ultimate fall.

    The problem with the Malay people, is that they use religion to shield themselves from just retribution and henceforth their obsessive focus on ‘sins’ and the dosa-pahala dialectics, to deflect truth wherever it is convenient to help them keep up with the consumer producer process of the modern world that they sometimes find at odds with their belief.

    Somehow, out of nowhere, a mental culture is bred, that compels them to an insatiable urge to champion the Palestinian cause. What if Palestinians are 86% Christians – can we picture this? Whereas this is now becoming a life transaction, artificially ingested in a cunning sublime manner, rather to redeem than to correct their own slovenliness in fronting the kafir economic and legal system at home, rendering them beggars in their own Homeland, which incidentally are the brilliant inventions and interventions of their filthy rich ruling elite brothers in Islam, declared as syariah compliant and forever sealed from further questioning or rationale. After which, a series of brain washing process will start to eliminate all doubts and life is up and running as pristine as we are programmed to experience and know it.

    It is a sacred mantra formula, the efficacy which is being equally exploited by Brader Anwar Bin Ibrahim, or BABI in short, to seduce support from the self-proclaimed color blind politicians in PAS, who are the sworn blind dungu-devils that you may already know how to use and re-use and then recycle to achieve the eco-green umno-envy effects to burst like a gothic fireworks on a full moon sky. If you are a true racist DAP politician or an opportunist PKR bitch in heat, these little green men with little grey matter will be a very useful opening act for your show.

    Back to the Palestinian thingy, it seems being a champion in the eyes of fellow Muslims is a huge accomplishment by their standards, when in fact it is an Arab-Jew conflict issue that should be taken care of by the peripheral muslim brotherhood in that combat zone itself. What is wrong with the oil-rich Saudis or the resourceful Turks is a question no Malay Islamist is begging to ask, but whatever the fart is, they must send a team of circus and clowns, and a pseudo-Ustaz commentator at hand, to record a sampling of how fearsome our lives in our very own Homeland will become if we allow the parallels of Zionism take root in the admin of the govt. Remember, the BABI-IMF bogey tune is still a hot number and relevant, just as it is an evergreen in its own nature and a classic textbook case.

    The local chapter of the Palestine cause may have a point there, but overkills it with a very cheap plastic PR exercise, that glugs equally on our non-muslim tax-payers money, when in fact they should have used money properly from the baitul-maal. But of course, re HBT456 post, the skull cap fellow can do no wrong, even when it is brimming with stupidity and bad taste, his insistence would help make god look uncool at the wrong places, specially at a non-muslim kenduri, sticking his ugly skull capped head like a sore middle finger.

    With all these shenanigan displays of haughtiness, they in fact, should be properly termed as Islamist. Because they worship Islam, not Allah. The Real Muslims pray and worship Allah and they dont worship a religion nor do they kill or get killed in the name of Islam.

    Properly said, the Islamist Malay, they can never be a mukmin (God-fearing) and you can find them frequently hiding or loitering behind UMNO’s banner, but their existence and fallacy is open and consistently demonstrated in PAS’s holier-than-thou attitude and PKR’s smart alec rhetorics. Whereas, in UMNO they take the form of the devil you know, in PAS they are always the price-haggling devil you dont want to know, who you honestly dont care to know, but categorically forced down your throat because you so badly want to unseat the Malay Emperor and to silence him to sobriety. Even an imminent public mayhem is just a pink blush on a whiter shade of pale on your face that you can deal with no shame in order to win this game conclusively and put an end to the bumiputera dynasty. Clap clap.

    Being the racist you are, Hamti Damti or not, this is the chance of a lifetime to place the Malay Islamist rightly square where they belong. The real muslims will, in the meantime, be the colateral damage that you would want to conveniently erase from memory. But that is, and they are of course, none of your problem.

    By the way, Tun’s suggestion or is it a premonition of things to come our way? seems to support the filthy-rich ruling elite’s modus operandi plus the so-called Malay captains of industry, at the expense of the working middle class and salaried citizens, who are by now already addicted to a life cushioned by the bank housing and car loans, and the perks that have been promised to last indefinitely, provided the elite ruling class is kept and maintained status-quo and the magician’s act of juggling telor si Damti is done exclusive and privately by few and selected players comprising of kafir bankers, politicians and industrialists. We are truly at their mercy now, if we are not to belief in God, we will have the damning option to believe in gold.

    Sdr Tired,

    :) ROFL, am glad to know you are no more recalcitrant than i am, or wished to be.
    i think the insolvency pple are just bankers in disguise with a lower rate of conscience. haha

  144. mubarakchan Mar 2,2013 12:27 PM

    Tun

    For whoever called me Sir Mubarak Chan. Your comment on the young, dynamic, go-go, clever Chinese of Pulau Pinang illustrates perfectly the viable and democratic character of our beloved Malaysia today as laboriously and diligently created by the BN as led by the UMNO with the 14 component parties through years of sweat and toil. Please note English educated Malaysian Chinese are hollow and argumentative and Chinese educated Malaysian Chinese have a big inferiority complex which they cover up with the apparent superiority complex by knowing just 1000 words of the Mandarin language. Take your pick, folks ! If these went to Oxford or Cambridge worse, they do not fit into the Malaysian Society. I only know of 2 who fitted in during a whole lifetime !

    Now coming to meritocratic Singapore and the sad story of how the meritocratic pyramid missed the finest opportunity for Lee Kuan Yew to control the World through Gold because they did not have commonsense, ability to think out of a box, and compassion (arrogance).

    Convention economic wisdom dictates that gold is barbaric and does not incurr an income. Right ! But this is what the common ecomonic folks think. If they support this crazy idea they will be out of a job. Now they are all out of a job by failing to realise their own failings. If Singapore had invested in gold, a few thousand tons, the following world shaking events occur :-

    1. The creation of a gold natural resource out of nothing.
    2. Gold banks, gold bonds, lend out gold through certificates, gold market, gold refineries, gold depositories, etc. The creation of a formal and trustworthy Gold Market of the World. IMF objects. But why cannot Singapore do this for her ultimate survival. She has nothing !
    3. Gold industry of jewelry, industrial use. Indonesian, Indian, Italian, Malaysian, etc.etc. artisans created.
    4. Politically Singapore swaggers around the World doing equal partnerships with the US, India and China on a superior footing on currency values and sit in on every top Summit Meetings. CONTROLLING THE WORLD AND US ! And Malaysia, OMG, Singapore would have got us by the short…………!
    5. However, Man proposes. God disposes. Lucky for Malaysia which escaped by a hair’s breadth.
    6. For Singapore now, back to the drawing boards and thinking caps. There is a saying ‘Time is of the essence’ or ‘the horses have bolted !’

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. Do listen to hearsay or rumours. Do not worship or kow-tow to so-called superior people but only yourself. Unite and vote as one.

  145. Ibnu Mukmin Mar 2,2013 12:26 PM

    Salam Tun,

    Saya ada beberapa soalan buat Tun. Soalan yang saya rasa amat penting buat Umat Islam berbangsa Melayu Malaysia/Singapura dan juga bukan berbangsa Melayu. Juga pada Melayu yang di definasikan didalam perlembagaan.

    Sebagai bekas PM dan juga perjuang yang terulung, dari pengalaman dan kebijaksanaan Tun, saya harap Tun dapat memberi komen dan jawapan kepada soalan berikut;

    1) Melayu Malaysia perlu maju kehadapan dari kedudukan yang kami ada sekarang. Apa kah kedudukan kami sekarang yang tidak memuaskan dan kenapa ia tidak memuaskan?

    2) Apa kedudukan yang kita idamkan untok di capai. Atau lebih tepat lagi apa itu definasi maju (success) yang kita ingin capai?

    3) Kerana Tun lebih kenal UMNO dari lain parti, apa kah kelemahan UMNO yang amat perlu di perbaiki supaya Melayu dapat mencapai kemajuan yang di sebut tadi (definasi dari Tun).

    4) Kami selalu mendengar dan ada juga orang yang telah mengalami sendiri, di mana persepsi ada nya salah guna kuasa, memberi projek kepada kroni, mengambil persen dari projek, korupsi dan lain2 angkara selalu di sampaikan dari mulut ke mulut. Betulkan perkara ini ada berlaku dan tahap manakan masalah ini berleluasa di kalangan UMNO. Ada kah masalah ini hanya bersangkutan dengan orang UMNO atau lebih kepada Penjawat awam. Atau pun kelaziman in bukan saja berlaku kepada orang UMNO dan penjawat awam, tetapi semua orang; termasuk orang Institusi Raja2, PKR, DAP, PAS, MCA, MIC, dll yang ada sedikit kuasa?

    5) Sehubungi dgn soalan (4), apa kah saranan Tun untok kita mengengkang penularan masalah ini.

    6) Akhir sekali, kita semua sedia maklum kebaikan tujuan DEB. Tetapi, mungkin perlaksanaan nya dapat di perbaiki, terutama berhubung soalan (4), dimana ramai yang beranggapan DEB mendukung masalah yang di sebut tadi.

    Kami menanti dengan penuh harapan ulasan and saranan Tun kepada soalan dan kemuskilan di atas.

    Terima Kasih Tun

  146. thaiso Mar 2,2013 12:03 PM

    Satu kenyataan yang mengejutkan saya bila ustaz madrasah channel 114 alhijrah menegaskan bahawa Allah s.w.t berhak memilih sesiapa pun untuk ‘bercakap’.

    Terdapat kisah dalam al quran bilamana Nabi Musa a.s mengaku bahawa dialah orang yg paling berilmu.

    Tetapi kenyataan baginda itu disangkal oleh Allah s.w.t dan baginda disuruh bertemu dengan seorang lagi yang lebih berilmu iaitu Nabi Khidir a.s

    Jelas sekali kisah perjalanan hidup Nabi Khidir a.s adalah berpaksikan pada kehidupan yang berpijak di bumi nyata.

    Jangan berada dalam kehidupan denial wahai dunia Eropah.

  147. HBT456 Mar 2,2013 11:58 AM

    Tired,

    Do you know who is Andy Lau?

    Andy Lau is just like you who have gone through dark ages of bankruptcy when he wanted to venture into some businesses so that he can retire acting before age 40 years.

    What he faced was worst than you since he is an actor cum singer.

    At age 50 years old and a happy father to a child born in Penang, he worked hard, keep his image clean, and clear off his debts.

    Don’t give up, and all the best to you, Tired.

  148. hati.kering Mar 2,2013 11:21 AM

    SURAT DARIku syaitan laknatullah UNTUKmu yang aku sayangi tetapi aku tetap membenci kamu…

    Aku melihatmu kelmarin, saat engkau memulai aktiviti harianmu. Kau bangun tanpa sujud kepada Allah mengerjakan subuhmu. Bahkan kemudiannya, kau juga tidak mengucapkan “Bismillah” sebelum memulai santapanmu. Juga tidak sempat mengerjakan solat Isyak sebelum berangkat ke tempat tidurmu.

    Kau benar-benar orang yang bersyukur, aku menyukainya. Aku tak dapat mengungkapkan betapa senangnya aku melihatmu tidak merubah cara hidupmu.

    Hai Bodoh, kamu millikku.,

    Ingat, kau dan aku sudah bertahun-tahun bersama dan aku masih belum bisa benar-benar mencintaimu. Malah aku masih membencimu, karena aku benci Allah. Aku hanya menggunakanmu untuk membalas dendamku kepada Allah. Dia sudah mencampakkan aku dari Syurga dan aku akan tetap memanafaatkanmu sepanjang masa untuk mebalaskannya.

    Kau lihat, ALLAH MENYAYANGIMU dan dia masih memiliki rencana-rencana untukmu di hari depan. Tapi kau sudah menyerahkan hidupmu padaku dan aku akan membuat kehidupanmu seperti Neraka. Sehingga kita bisa bersama dua kali dan ini akan menyakiti ALLAH.

    Hai Bodoh, kamu millikku.,

    Aku benar-benar berterima kasih padamu, karena aku sudah menunjukkan kepadaNYA siapa yang menjadi pengatur dalam hidupmu dalam masa-masa yang kita jalani. Kita nonton film porno bersama, memaki orang, mencuri, berbohong, munafik, makan sekenyang-kenyangya, guyon2an jorok, bergosip, manghakimi orang, menghujam orang dari belakang, tidak hormat pada orang tua, tidak menghargai Masjid dan berperilaku buruk.

    Tentunya kau tak ingin meninggalkan ini begitu saja. Ayuhlah, hai bodoh, kita terbakar bersama, selamanya. Aku masih memiliki rencana-rencana hangat untuk kita. Ini hanya merupakan surat penghargaanku untukmu. Aku ingin mengucapkan “TERIMA KASIH” kerana sudah mengizinkanku memanafaatkan hampir semua masa hidupmu.

    Hai Bodoh, kamu millikku.,

    Kamu memang mudah dibodohi, dibohongi, aku mentertawakanmu. Saat kau tergoda dan ternoda berbuat dosa, kamu aku hadiahi tawaku dengan frekuensi tertinggi. Dosa sudah mulai mewarnai hidupmu.

    Kamu sudah 20 tahun lebih tua dan sekarang aku perlu darah muda untuk diresapkan ke dalam rohmu. Jadi pergi dan lanjutkanlah mengajarkan orang-orang muda bagaimana berbuat dosa. Yang perlu kau lakukan adalah merokok, mabuk-mabuk, berbohong, berjudi, bergosip dan hidupkanlah egomu selayak mungkin. Lakukan semua ini didepan anak-anak dan mereka akan menirunya.

    Hai Bodoh, kamu millikku.,

    Pesanku, inilah waktunya engkau merencanakan fitnah pelbagai, seperti yang engkau pernah melakukannya beberapa tahun dahulu. Engkau ada talen, ada kuasa ada pengaruh. Saat ini aku telah berjaya menggodam sebanyak mungkin mereka yang menjadi pengikutmu, supaya sentiasa mengiakan segala fitnahmu yang pelbagai.

    Hancurkan mereka yang jujur, yang amanah dan yang menuruti perentah Allah dan yang menghindari larangan Allah. Lakukan seolah-olah mereka adalah penipu dimata penyokongmu. Katakan kepada penyokongmu, orang itu adalah perasuah yang sebenar dan orang yang gila nama dan gila kuasa. Hancur leburkan impian orang yang jujur, sekali lagi seperti mana yang pernah engkau lakukan dulu dengan merencanakan kemusnahannya di mata orang yang selama ini meneladaninya. Buatlah supaya mereka nampak engkaulah orang yang sebenar-benarnya amanh, jujur, ikhlas dan kayaraya serta berkehidupan mewah kerana kerja kerasmu.

    Hai Bodoh, kamu millikku.,

    Ingat manusia sekarang lebih percayakan fitnah itu benar dan yang benar itu fitnah. Mudah saja engkau meracuni perasaan dan pemikiran mereka. Hebatkan engkau di mata mereka.

    Begitulah anak-anak. Aku persilakan kau bergerak sekarang. Aku akan kembali beberapa detik lagi untuk menggodamu lagi. Jika kau cukup cerdas, kau akan lari sembunyi dan bertaubat atas dosa-dosamu dan hidup untuk Allah dengan sisa umurmu yang tinggal sedikit. Memperingati orang bukan tabiatku. Tetapi di usiamu sekarang dan tetap melakukan dosa, sepertinya memang agak aneh.

    Jangan salah sangka, aku tetap membencimu. Hanya saja kau harus menjadi orang tolol yang lebih baik di mata Allah.

    (tanda tanganku tidak diperlukan)

    Catatan : Jika kau benar-benar menyayangiku , kau tak akan mengirim suratku ini dengan sesiapa pun.

  149. Tired Mar 2,2013 11:16 AM

    Salam, Tun.

    Tumpang lalu; terima kasih, Tun!

    Alfred Willner,

    You commented, “alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi March 1, 2013 at 11:04 PM “HUMPTY DUMPTY”:
    “Salam, dear Tun!
    A short note to “Tired”:
    In your posting dated March 1, 2013 at 11:03 AM you seem to address me with the following comment when you say, QUOTE P.s HBT456, Let’s hear what Alfred has to say about my question. UNQUOTE
    — Much to my dismay I do not understand what is your “QUESTION” albeit reading your story about what happened to you during the Economic Down Turn in Malaysia in 1998. Sad to still see you suffering from it today. Maybe you want to elaborate on your question. Thank you! Alfred Willner”

    1. Presumably, you’ve missed my reply to your reply to my “question” (a bit confusing, I know!). Anyway, I’m pasting those comments here, for your reference:-
    “Tired March 1, 2013 at 8:36 PM “XENOFON”:
    Salam, Tun. Tumpang lalu; terima kasih, Tun!
    Alfred Willner,
    Guten Tag, Herr Willner. Beeindruckende Antwort! By the way, habe ich vorgeschlagen, die Frage zum Mitnehmen Aufmerksamkeit vom Blog. Einige Blogger haben Müll hier gepostet! Ich denke, weil die General Election 13 ist auf den Horizont. Bleiben Sie gesund und warm! Danke!
    1. No apology required, Alfred, and I noted on your reply to my question. Thank you!
    2. My sincerest apology if my Germans are a bit off…^_^
    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.”

    2. And, the following was you reply to my “question”:
    “alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi March 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM “XENOFON”:
    Salam, dear Tun, a note for Tired: I do apologize, I meant the United Nations Tribunal in The Hague, not the International Court of Justice. Other than that your assumptions are right, all I meant was FRIENDLY.
    Kind regards, Alfred Willner”

    3. I hope we’re good now, Alfred. Nevertheless, if you would be requiring further clarification, kindly drop me a comment here. (Thank you, Tun, for allowing us some space!)

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.

    P.s.

    1. HBT456,
    Your assumption about ‘my question’ to Alfred was wrong, I am afraid, but it is okay. Thank you, for trying to help. I’ll be alright with Alfred, I’m sure. Anyway, since you’ve brought-up the matter, Yes, I hope to bring some votes to BN, as I believe BN is THE ONLY PARTY that could guarantee us continuous harmony, peace, stability, and economic opportunities to make sure that our children and their children’s children continue to enjoy what we’ve been enjoying since 1957 albeit hick-ups here and there along the way. Needless to say, for as long as we are human not angels, we are susceptible to human flaws and errors. That is what we call “LIFE!” However, contrary to your expectation, as a matter of principle, I won’t be voting in the upcoming GE13. In fact, I’ve stopped voting since Pak Lah’s days in 2004! Sorry, to have disappointed you!

    2. Sdr Dr Jafri,
    Did I mention all the Judges or just a few of them only? Anyway, my lawyers’ friends did tell me that “all the good Judges and lawyers are in heaven now!”

  150. HBT456 Mar 2,2013 9:50 AM

    Sir Mubarak Chan,

    The Chinese in DAP are young, energetic, full of ideals, professionals and highly educated who know what they want to achieve today.

    I am not saying Sir Mubarak Chan’s way is wrong.

    But seeing a Palestine supporter who have went to Palestine sponsored by tax payers of all faiths, wore “kopiah” during our Christmas celebration in the office has indeed made himself looked weird.

    All these years, UMNO has said it loud and clear that only Muslim Malays are entitled to “Allah”.

    But if Malays are entitled to use the word “Allah”, should we halau him out since this is a company’s Christmas party to avoid ourselves being investigate by Jakim?

    P.S.

    Alfred,

    Bankruptcy cases like Tired is plenty in Malaysia and he can make sure thousands of votes to support PM and UMNO in this coming election. I think this is what Tired meant.

  151. mubarakchan Mar 2,2013 9:16 AM

    Tun

    Throughout my life, I have studied and learnt from the mistakes of others and my own. It is indeed illuminating to study and learn from the meritocratic mistakes of Singapore which was ensnared in this once in a lifetime catalclysmic financial event which could only created by Humankind – the ride of the Kondratieff Wave, not the ride of the Valkyrie.

    My rough estimate is that Singapore in their meritocratic exuberance invested a minimum of US$500 Billions in US and around the World, slowly at first but began to gain momentum at the turn of the 21st century. In the 2 years before 2007, this serious investment came under pressure from the international media peers which called funds like these ‘ sovereign funds ‘. Singapore ‘ sovereign fund ‘ came from the hard-earned savings from her citizens unlike China, Kuwait etc. which came from trade. Khazanah please take note. These sovereign funds were praised sky high nearly daily. For those who were educated in the top universities in the West, these graduates would understand the close relationship of the ‘old boys’ or ‘ivy league’ networks in the West – the elite. Unfortunately, meritocratic Singapore thought they too were part of this elitist group. They were not because of racial differences.

    With the above in mind, and taking the scenario back to the point when Lee Kuan Yew retired at the age of 65 as Prime Minister and if the meritocratic pyramid had seriously considered all the options for investment available to meritocratic Singapore, I reckon the meritocrats could only come up with one single option based on the real fact that Singapore has no natural resources apart from the idyllic piece of tropical island land. What to do ? Gold ! The United States and the IMF frowned on countries investing in gold which economists call a barbaric relic and does not incurr an income. Roughly, the United States has 8,000 tons, Germany 4,000 tons, France 3,000 tons, Italy 2000 tons, China and India over 1000 tons. Malaysia also had gold when the ringgit was RM1 = S$1.03, 1972 – 1981. The reason is that these countries have financial muscle.

    Sadly, the meritocrats of Singapore read the same books and was part of a rigid pyramid with the smartest fellow on top. They went conventional and traditional without regard to commonsense, ability to think out of the box with compassion. Not only that, they forgot their soverignty, national interest and self-esteem by salaaming the Wall Street folks some of whom were the biggest crooks the World has ever seen.

    If meritocratic Singapore had seriously thought about themselves and the options, there is only one lethal weapon (not the F 16, brigade of aging Gurkhas or rusting tanks etc) which will protect Singapore forever and forever – GOLD. Natural resourceless Singapore with a couple of tons of gold arising from a time when the price of gold was only US$300 an ounce would control the World. She could be in partnership of whoever, US, China or India. And definitely, the soft under-belly of Malaysia would be in her hands. But this is not to be so. The opportunity to control the World through a simple investment in gold has now gone forever. Man propose. God disposes. Vide. The Failure of Genius. 1994.

    Vote BN. All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. Think of yourselves not some high faluting bound to fail meritocrats who orbit way above the Earth. The latest joke – a Singaporean Minister said recently, ‘ A person’s ability must not be dependent on academic qualifications alone. His other abilities should also be taken into consideration !’ Vide. Channelnewsasia. February 2013. Thanks a billion folks after making us Singaporeans burn the proverbial midnight oil since 1959 and now tell us that egg-heads do not count and after all the opportunities to make a billion are gone. Thanks !
    The DAP, Daddy’s Action Party, has effectively collapsed as underlined by Dr Pua ( I believe he went in like Lee Kuan Yew ) from Cambridge University that DAP plays third fiddle to PKR and PAS !

  152. hajar Mar 2,2013 9:08 AM

    Salam YAB & diKasihi Tun,

    1. Pendapat yang bernas dan nasihat yang amat berharga dari Tun kepada negara-negara yang bermasaalah dan juga kepada negara-negara yang masih boleh bertahan menggunakan kaedah tersendiri.

    2. Saya harap Kerajaan Malaysia juga mendengar nasihat ini dan tidak terlalu mengikut rentak dan cara negara-negara barat menangani kewangan/ekonomi mereka. Kita kena ikut ACUAN/FORMULA kita sendiri seperti yang Tun pernah lakukan sekitar 1997/1998.

    3. Kalau telur dah pecah berderai, memang mustahil untuk ”put together” telur tersebut; ”nasi sudah menjadi bubur…”

    4. Negara/Orang yang telah jatuh miskin/muflif eloklah berbelanja seperti orang miskin; tapi memang amat sukar sebab sudah terbiasa hidup mewah..lagipun banyak orang yang suka jalan pintas/mudah, tapi kenalah ”ukur baju di badan sendiri”; kena SEDAR kemampuan diri.

    5. Saya bersyukur Malaysia masih lagi aman makmur walaupun ada anasir luar yang menceroboh negara kita; saya pun kurang faham mengapa kita amat berlembut dengan penceroboh-penceroboh ini. Jika sayalah yang berkuasa, sedari awal lagi saya sudah usir keluar PENCEROBOH di Lahat Datu tersebut supaya tidak timbul masalaah lain seperti apa yang telah berlaku semalam. Tidak pasal-pasal ada anggota Polis kita yang berkorban.

    Terima kasih Tun.

    *** Semoga Allah SWT melindungi Tun sekeluarga. ***

  153. alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi Mar 1,2013 11:04 PM

    Salam, dear Tun!

    A short note to “Tired”:

    In your posting dated March 1, 2013 at 11:03 AM you seem to address me with the following
    comment when you say

    QUOTE
    P.s
    HBT456,
    Let’s hear what Alfred has to say about my question.
    UNQUOTE

    Much to my dismay I do not understand what is your “QUESTION” albeit reading your story about what happened to you during the Economic Down Turn in Malaysia in 1998. Sad to still see you suffering from it today. Maybe you want to elaborate on your question.

    Thank you!

    Alfred Willner
    alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi

  154. meisterzizou81 Mar 1,2013 10:53 PM

    Dear Tun,

    What do you think of the Khazanah people who keep selling our land to foreigners?.. now they are expanding their business in Desaru. Selling Kejora land to everyone else but Malaysian. I believe one of the reason why Pak Lah been voted out previously was because of this goon. But now, what is Najib doing in containing this band of traitor. I’m very afraid that the 4th floor boys will be the reasons for the fall of BN Dinasty unless there is somebody to control them first..

    Thanks TUN

  155. sudin Mar 1,2013 7:18 PM

    Salam Tun.

    I’m not sure if Anwar understands the full context of Tun’s Humpty Dumpty article.
    But one thing I’m very sure is, Anwar will not believe to any reasoning/ideas if they are coming from Dr. Mahathir!
    He has this ‘firewall’ kind of brainwashing implanted in him, just like that ‘polo’ boy, that tuan shaik, doleng, ….amat memalukan!!

    p.s.
    Congratulation to Tun.
    This article has resulted to a blogger believing in God!
    Probably the humpty dumpty title fits perfectly with his mumbo jumbo quotes!

  156. mubarakchan Mar 1,2013 6:58 PM

    Tun

    Another exciting topic published by you from your experience and observation on world affairs which are now coming home to roost. And mind you, this cataclysmic event happened in the top meritocratic countries of the World, the United States and Singapore included. The ruinous increase in wealth from the end of World War II to 2007 and the final blow in October 2008 put paid to Humpty Dumpty who could never be put together again even by the King’s men and soldiers. I myself reckon the recovery according to the Kondratieff Wave began with the bombing of Pearl Harbour 7 December 1941. From the years of the Great Depression and the New Deal, 1931 to 1941, the Americans actually could not kick start their economy until the advent of War.

    Your comment effectively underlined that investment in banks should be avoided. And this was what the meritocratic pyramid of Singapore did the opposite. Huge investments of real and hard earned money of the citizens were invested into banks at the end of the Kondratieff Wave. Vide Wikipedia. Daily Telegraph. Jeffrey Warner. 20 March 2012. A huge sum of US$108 Billions (RM350 Billions) were officially lost in a jiffy on 8 October 2008. It is reckoned that the World is at the beginning of the Kondratieff Wave down-slope which may last 5 to 36 years – a world depression. However, this is also a great opportunity to make money !

    The painful lesson of Singapore is an eye-opener for us. Singapore poured everything into the wide wild open Western capital market which was actually like a casino. The values of assets disappeared overnight, not to Saudi Arabia or Switzerland but due to a severe reduction of values which were an integral part of the giant bubble. How to replace the lost multi-trillions of dollars is now the 64 trillion dollar question ?

    Fast back trek to the Cold War and beyond. Eisenhower’s political-military-industrial complex delivered the goods without much ado. Singapore reaped the riches of the fall-out from the Korean, the Vietnam and the Cold Wars. But with the end of the Cold War, 1989, America proposed globalisation, free trade, human rights which are actually run counter to the interests of Singapore, strange to say. The seduction of Singapore’s to put at least US500 Billions into Western capital market at the end of the Kondratieff Wave is the stuff of historical works to come.

    From the Malaysian perspective, hardly any investment was made in the Western capital market at the relevant time and a huge loss was averted. But this is not the end of the story. Who knows what the future will unfold, Tun ? You rightly pointed your finger at the political excesses and abuse of asset values in the West for decades since the end of World War II eg. free education, health services, social services, etc.etc created through generations of politicians exactly like what the PR is now promising the voters.
    Malaysia will be hit by the downturn in world demand for her natural resources if the world recession continues which is becoming likely.

    Therefore, you are right that at such crucial times a country needs to be administered by the BN as led by the UMNO with the 14 component parties and not to amateurs.

    Vote BN All Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese. The foremost economic experts of the World have endorsed that the socio-economic policies of the BN as led by the UMNO with the 14 component parties are properly in place. Unite and vote as one !

  157. alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi Mar 1,2013 6:20 PM

    Salam, dear Sum, and Good Health

    SORRY, dear Tun, the above was a TYPO committed in the haste of battle as it were.

    My sincere apologies!

    Alfred Willner

  158. alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi Mar 1,2013 6:02 PM

    Brilliant,

    dear Tun,

    absolutely brilliant!

    You are talking off the very bottom of my heart and so precisely along the lines I have myself been advocating for years already that such coincidence does surprise me, I will admit. It feels great to find someone thinking along the same lines.

    In Europe I can’t find anyone to share my views. The wisdom is in Asia it would seem.

    You may not have intended to give gratuitous advice to the Europeans but any European in charge anywhere should read what you are writing here with great attention.

    May I have your permission to DISTRIBUTE this in Europe and name you as the Author? Not too many Europeans are following your blog here – I may in actual fact be the only one.

    The advise you are giving countries which have somehow escaped the financial tsunami, telling them not to copy the European for the European don’t have a monopoly of wisdom, is certainly well placed in such countries and your warning should be taken to heart there but, by the very same token, it would be an ENCOURAGEMENT to EUROPEANS AND THEIR LEADERS if they read it too, for what you are saying is so BRILLIANT, expressed in such a simple manner, at the time convincing and compulsory in your conclusions.

    Please allow me to DISTRIBUTE your thoughts in EUROPE if you have not already thought yourself of doing so.

    Salam, dear Sum, and Good Health

    as always yours

    Alfred Willner
    alfred.willner@euromotors.ltd.gi

  159. HBT456 Mar 1,2013 5:48 PM

    Farihan Han,

    In the 90s, yes, it happened because of top down instructions to bankers

    Today, it won’t happen because bankers have other choices to grow their profit and revenue.

  160. Farihan Han Mar 1,2013 5:36 PM

    HUMPTY DUMPTY.. when the amounts became so huge, running into tens and hundreds of billions that even smart accounting could not hide the losses. The great banks failed and went bankrupt.

  161. sibotak Mar 1,2013 1:27 PM

    HUMTY DUMTY …………….PULAK SI TUN NI
    ENJIT……. JIT SEMUT KE
    AIR PASANG PAGI, SIRAM POKOK BUNGA, KE
    BA…….BA BLACK SHEEP PUN OK PE

  162. sibotak Mar 1,2013 1:22 PM

    I DONT UNDERSTAND MUCH OF THESE EUROPEAN INVESTMENT , BANKING ,ETC
    WHAT I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF TRICKS AROUND IT
    AND THEY THE EUROPEANS ARE GOOD AT IT
    WE ARE NOT
    CHINA ARE GOOD AT COPY RIGHT
    WE ARE NOT

    BE WHAT WE ARE
    I DON,T BELIEVES IN LAWYERS AGREEMENT, BUSINESS AGREEMENT
    I BELIEVES IN
    I GIVE YOU 1
    YOU GIVE ME 1

    WE ASIANS MOSTLY EARNS SWEATS MONEY
    EUROPEAN ARE CREATIVE WHITE COLLAR WHO SITS ON THE TABLE

    WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL
    DON,T HAVE TO FOLLOW THEIR CULTURE

    BE WHAT WE WANT TO BE
    NOT BE WHAT THEY ARE

  163. balance Mar 1,2013 1:07 PM

    tun,

    Only God and nature create perfect system others are false and imaginary. It is time they relished and repent and we must learn from it

  164. A Malay child Mar 1,2013 12:42 PM

    Salam Tun,

    somewhat i think the Europeans have become the dreamers in their own reality
    using imaginary figures to be rich but poor in the real world

    Stop Dreaming Start Working

    thanks Tun for your leadership
    thanks for dismissing the corrupt, infidel, traitor, Anwar

  165. The Hidden Secret Mar 1,2013 12:40 PM

    Peace!

    1. Hmm… It is not only the EU (European Union). The U.S. and Japan are also in trouble now.

    2. When they are in trouble, we will be in trouble also. In fact, the whole world will be in trouble due to the open economy which we are practising.

    3. Even rich countries like the oil producing countries (Brunei, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia etc.) will be affected due to the drop in demand and price.

    4. Japan, EU and U.S. are our 3rd, 4th and 5th main export partners. 12% of our export goes to Japan, 9% to EU and 9% to USA.

    5. 15% of our export goes to Singapore. Most probably, a big chunk of this export also ended up in Japan, EU and U.S.

    6. As such, 45% of our export income are at stake should the EU, U.S. and Japan economies collapse. If we want to recover the losses from this 45% export, we need to look for other countries or to increase our domestic demand. If they collapsed, we could no longer run but to walk using crutches. It will slow down our economic growth. When Humpty Dumpty falls, he will fell on us.

    7. A good way of going out from recession is to increase the revenue from the tourism industry. EU has lots to be offered when it comes to tourism. EU also has good existing infrastructure to support their tourism industry. However, EU needs to find ways on how to make their tourism industry cheaper and more affordable. Form the top 10 of the most visited countries by international tourist, 6 of them are EU countries and U.S.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

    8. Another way to get out from this crisis is to increase export. EU, U.S. and Japan need us and the rest of the world to continue buying their products and services. Tun has already said what should be done by them to boost their export of products and services.

    9. This is from Forbes… Based on U.S. experience in times of high unemployment, a 10% depreciation of the euro would improve net exports by about 1.5% of GDP. To make a difference, EU net exports should reach 3% of GDP. The arithmetic implies, as a necessary but not sufficient condition to spark EU growth (robust growth abroad is also needed), the Euro should drop about 20% against the currencies of its trading partners.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2012/08/27/europe-will-recover-as-the-euro-falls/

    10. Crimes and prostitutions will increase when the economy is in recession. There are more crimes in the troubled EU countries now then before. Prostitution ‘service’ charge would become cheaper. This will help the tourism industry but crime will give negative effect on the industry. More focus need to be given by EU to fight crimes.

    11. If the crisis continues over a long period of time, well who knows… maybe we could see Europeans, Americans and Japanese workers working at McDonalds, KFCs or even mamak restaurants and stalls in Malaysia. Then, the Bangladeshi need to compete with them. Imagine using the rest room in KLCC and the janitor is a young, handsome, good looking Portugese guy who looks like Cristiano Ronaldo? If the crisis still continues over a longer period of time, maybe we will start seeing Europeans, Americans and Japanese prostitutes in Malaysia. The prostitutes from China, Vietnam and Indonesia will then need to reduce their ‘service’ charge to compete with the more attractive Caucasian prostitutes. Although the economic crisis started in EU, U.S. and Japan, since Malaysia is the 9th most visited countries by international tourist, well who knows… Kuala Lumpur will eventually become like Dubai… A city in a Muslim country with lots of international prostitutes.

    Rgds.

  166. Dr Jafri Mar 1,2013 12:38 PM

    Tun, this subject is tricky.

    Its like slurping on Ba Kut Teh, and still insist it is Halal.

    The whole consumer producer system, that is our bloodline now, coupled with the fulfillment of commercially induced and seduced lifestyle, like a Malaysian Fantasia, and what with the bank loans to be taken for the car and house that we so-called ‘own’. Tun, even the financial foundation of the Proton car industry is hopelessly embroiled in its complexity that have overtaken their depleting muscle to handle it, disabling even your good self to properly locate where are the missing nuts and springs. What now, if I may digress, with cheaper price tags for imported cars. Bila semua tak boleh balance, bukan saja Hamti Damti, tapi telur dalam seluar pun boleh jatuh.

    Not to mention, waiting in some sordid corner higher up, the legal eagles, faceless and powered by a ruthless banking system is ever ready to disassemble your malaysian dream with their merciless claws and clause. *Sdr Tired, anda must stop making fun of your lawyer friends, or giving away juicy statistics of judges that are allegedly lodged in hell :)

    In a sense, you cant shoot the ibu ayam without hurting her anak-anak. Unless if you want to rewrite the whole story.

  167. daus0 Mar 1,2013 12:32 PM

    “7. The fact is that their economy was not sound in the first place. They believed that their wealth was real but it was not. It was really make believe wealth created by trickery. Their so-called wealth was created through tricks in valuation. Share prices for example were increased not because the businesses were making profits but because of the demand for the shares. And very often the demands were artificial, cleverly manipulated by the market players.

    8. The money they use for all those wealth-creating tricks were not real either. The banks lent money which they did not have. The banks created the money out of nothing. The money lent is then regarded as the asset of the bank. The more they lent, the bigger the bank’s asset. It was alright as long as they did not abuse this money creation too much. But they became greedy and created too much. This non-existent money is then invested in the shares of companies which were incapable of producing anything substantial, too much which were not profitable. They were invested in houses which did not exist or were not even built. But on paper, in their book these non-existent things were given values.”

    1. Today we are living in a time where paper imprinted with values are believed to “have real values”.

    2. If we were to work hard such as the China, we would also be rich (should be rich). But is it being rich to just having a lot of paper money?

    3. But alas when China asked America for their money, it was simple enough that the banks of America would just give out their “worthless paper money” (which we are storing in our federal reserve?)

    4. If asked for more, they print more. Simple yet destructive.

    5. When they go down due to their own mistakes of creating “excessive imaginary wealth”, we will go down with them. Only we get it worse.

    6. The answer lies within the gold and silver coin. We must call upon all people to use it as currency. Real currency that has intristic value.

    7. Currency that is mentioned in the Al – Quran, Dinar and Dirham.

  168. nadzrikamsin Mar 1,2013 12:19 PM

    Life is like a wheel. Sometimes you are at the top, sometimes you are at the bottom. Now, it is the time for the European to face the declining phase.

    US is losing its legitimacy as the sole superpower. On the other hand, we see the rising China in many areas be it diplomacy, military or economy.

    You can’t claim yourself as superpower when your economy is in critical condition but other inferior countries’ economy is much better than you. How do you want to manage others when you can’t manage your own?

    People who are ‘euro-centric’ should think twice before they plan to copy everything from the European model.

  169. Ibnu Mukmin Mar 1,2013 11:38 AM

    Salam Tun,

    The real sad thing is that the people who will suffer the most will be the future generations who will need to repay the debts incurred by the present generation.

    Only Allah has monoploy on Wisdom. However you wish to define Wisdom.

    It is an innate human character that they will do or act in ways that eventually is for them to achieve something for themselves. Even if they seem to be doing a charitable act for someone else.

    The thing that separates the individuals are the life values and ethics that they hold. It will differentiate if they will act (to finally achieve thier own goal) – whether they will hurt others in the process or avoid avoiding others.

    One of the primary value in Islam is not to hurt (aniaya) others in whatever we do.

    People who claim to be cultured, civilised and want freedom but do no uphold this important life value are no better than selfish bigots. They want freedom and rights without responsibility.

    May Allah grant hidayah to see the truth to all humanbeings who truly seek the truth for this short life of ours. Eternal recompense awaits us all without exceptions.

    Thanks Tun

  170. Tired Mar 1,2013 11:03 AM

    Salam, Tun.

    “8. The money they use for all those wealth-creating tricks were not real either. The banks lent money which they did not have. The banks created the money out of nothing. The money lent is then regarded as the asset of the bank. The more they lent, the bigger the bank’s asset. It was alright as long as they did not abuse this money creation too much. But they became greedy and created too much. This non-existent money is then invested in the shares of companies which were incapable of producing anything substantial, too much which were not profitable. They were invested in houses which did not exist or were not even built. But on paper, in their book these non-existent things were given values.” and “23. It is galling. To go back to being poor, to have to work hard to produce real things, to learn to sell in a fiercely competitive market, it will be painful. But it will be real wealth. It will be cash in the banks and not merely numbers.”

    1. I concur with your above statements, wholeheartedly!

    2. At 29 years old, my asset and quoted shares were >RM5m, but today I’m a bankrupt!

    3. In 1998, in my effort to rescue one of my ‘on going’ property development project, I had to sell off all of my assets and shares, which during that time proved futile, as I had to sell them at ‘fire sale.’ And as they say, “the rest is history…”

    4. It is indeed galling to be poor especially when you’re a bankrupt in this Country! Even GLCs do not want to employ you, and forget the rests, especially, when you are Malay like me! At times, I feel as though former convicts have better opportunity than me, it would appear… And when you had an opportunity to work overseas, the Insolvency Dept. would make it sure that you would feel like a Pariah! The best joke? If you were successful in getting that approval to leave the Country, they would make you poorer by making you deposit thousands of ringgits into ‘your assets’ and ‘collateral’; talk about being bankrupt with no money!

    5. I hope the Europeans have better luck than me!

    Sekian, Tun. Wassalam.

    P.s
    HBT456,
    Let’s hear what Alfred has to say about my question. I did not meant him any harm or whatever, but merely wanted to share his view. Anyway, my question was based on truth and hard facts too…^_^ Btw, talking about “the Truth”, my lawyers are refusing to represent me Pro Bono anymore until I stop making those silly ‘lawyers’ jokes’, as there are all the Truth (except maybe two, or three, or…)

  171. HBT456 Mar 1,2013 10:10 AM

    If we want to take Humpty Dumpty eggs, why kill the inventor of Humty Dumpty?

    Kalau kita ingin dapatkan telur ayam tu, kenapa nak bunuh ibu ayam tu?

    All great dictatorships in the world would fall in the name of growth and development.

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