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1. Dr Syed Alwi bin Ahmad blames Islam for the failures of governance in Muslim countries.
2. It is true that Muslim countries are often poorly governed. There is not a single one of them which qualify to be a developed country.
3. But the fault does not lie with the religion of Islam. Over a period of 1,400 years the original teachings of Islam as was brought by Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) have been interpreted and re-interpreted by genuine scholars and charlatans with vested interest so that it is no longer the Islam of the messages of Allah subhanawata’ala. Some of these interpretations are so different from the original that they are not Islamic at all.
4. In Malaysia we have Arqam and Ayah Pin and many others who have clearly deviated from the true teachings of Islam. Yet their followers are fanatical about their beliefs in the teachings of these people. In the Muslim world there are also many Ashaaris and Ayah Pins.
5. Their teachings are intended to validate their own deeds and purpose, many of which are political. Thus in the Turkish Sultanate of the distant past, when a Sultan was enthroned, he ordered the murder of all his brothers. This was to prevent them from mounting a challenge against him. And his religious advisers justify this act by pointing out that Islam abhors “fitnah” (bad mouthing as well as attempting to overthrow a ruler and take over a country – both of these happened between the small Muslim states of Al-Andalus or Spain, often with Spanish help).
6. Fratricide as happened in the Turkish Sultanate is not sanctioned by Islam. The verse in the Quran which declares that fitnah (bad mouthing) is worse than killing is not meant to permit fratricide. In fact killing a fellow Muslim is forbidden.
7. Differences in the interpretations also occur in the Christian religion. That is why there are many sects among the followers of Christianity. In the past the differences had led to wars, with the authorities burning the alleged heretics at the stakes. The war in Northern Ireland which has flared up recently is due to differences in the interpretation of the Christian religion.
8. Similarly the Muslim sects often fight each other. These are not due to Islam but are caused by interpretations by different imams and ulamas. It is wrong to blame Islam for the sad state of Muslim states. The blame should be put on the shoulders of the interpreters of Islam whose teachings divide the Muslims so deeply that they fail to be guided by the true teachings of Islam.
9. If Muslims follow the true teachings of Islam as found in the Quran and the verified hadiths, they should be able to govern their countries as effectively as the followers of other religions. I must say though that the followers of other religions too often fail.
10. Yes I was thinking of the situation in the country also when I say that Muslims are easily mislead. If their leader says that they will become “kafir” if they work with non-Muslims, they will fanatically uphold this and condemn people who work with non-Muslims. If tomorrow the same leader says working with the “kafir” is alright, they will say “Yes, yes,” and forget how in the past they had condemned others as kafir for doing what they are now doing.
Salam Tun,
3:32
Katakanlah: “Taatlah kamu kepada Allah dan RasulNya. Oleh itu, jika kamu berpaling, maka sesungguhnya Allah tidak suka kepada orang-orang yang kafir.
61:6
Dan (ingatlah juga peristiwa) ketika Nabi Isa ibni Maryam berkata: “Wahai Bani Israil, sesungguhnya aku ini Rasul Allah
43:63
Dan ketika Nabi Isa datang dengan membawa keterangan-keterangan yang nyata, berkatalah ia: “Sesungguhnya aku datang kepada kamu dengan membawa Hikmat, dan untuk Menerangkan kepada kamu: sebahagian dari yang kamu berselisihan padanya. Oleh itu, bertaqwalah kamu kepada Allah dan taatlah kepadaku.
2:285
Rasulullah telah beriman kepada apa yang diturunkan kepadanya dari Tuhannya, dan juga orang-orang yang beriman; semuanya beriman kepada Allah, dan Malaikat-malaikatNya, dan Kitab-kitabNya, dan Rasul-rasulNya. (Mereka berkata): “Kami tidak membezakan antara seorang dengan yang lain Rasul-rasulnya”. Mereka berkata lagi: Kami dengar dan kami taat keampunanMu wahai Tuhan kami, dan kepadaMu jualah tempat kembali”.
Muslim mesti taat, dan mengikut Nabi Isa & Bible?
apa Ayat-AlQuran yang mengharamkan, “Muslim mesti taat, dan mengikut Nabi Isa & Bible?”
Salam Tun,
3:32
Katakanlah: “Taatlah kamu kepada Allah dan RasulNya. Oleh itu, jika kamu berpaling, maka sesungguhnya Allah tidak suka kepada orang-orang yang kafir.
61:6
Dan (ingatlah juga peristiwa) ketika Nabi Isa ibni Maryam berkata: “Wahai Bani Israil, sesungguhnya aku ini Rasul Allah
43:63
Dan ketika Nabi Isa datang dengan membawa keterangan-keterangan yang nyata, berkatalah ia: “Sesungguhnya aku datang kepada kamu dengan membawa Hikmat, dan untuk Menerangkan kepada kamu: sebahagian dari yang kamu berselisihan padanya. Oleh itu, bertaqwalah kamu kepada Allah dan taatlah kepadaku.
2:285
Rasulullah telah beriman kepada apa yang diturunkan kepadanya dari Tuhannya, dan juga orang-orang yang beriman; semuanya beriman kepada Allah, dan Malaikat-malaikatNya, dan Kitab-kitabNya, dan Rasul-rasulNya. (Mereka berkata): “Kami tidak membezakan antara seorang dengan yang lain Rasul-rasulnya”. Mereka berkata lagi: Kami dengar dan kami taat keampunanMu wahai Tuhan kami, dan kepadaMu jualah tempat kembali”.
Jika “Taat Rasul”, “Hikmat”, “Menerangkan” merujuk pada Hadis, ayat diatas juga boleh merujuk pada Hadis Isa.
Salam Tun,
43:63
Dan ketika Nabi Isa datang dengan membawa keterangan-keterangan yang nyata, berkatalah ia: “Sesungguhnya aku datang kepada kamu dengan membawa Hikmat, dan untuk Menerangkan kepada kamu: sebahagian dari yang kamu berselisihan padanya. Oleh itu, bertaqwalah kamu kepada Allah dan taatlah kepadaku.
Perlukah kita taat pada Hadis Nabi Isa ?
Salam Tun,
Abdulazizomar may have misunderstood me.
He asks that i not surrender. Here is my reply.
@abdulazizomar
I have surrendered, but you ask me not to ?
I have surrendered to the will of God. You see, i am convinced
i cannot win against God. It’s no use. So I had better surrender. It’s good for my health.
But of course, i surrender not to arguments that are clearly
in error ! Common sense must prevail.
Quran(yusuf-ali)
2:136. Say ye: “We believe in Allah,
and the revelation given to us,
and to Abraham, Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob,
and the Tribes,
and that given to Moses and Jesus,
and that given to [all] prophets from their Lord:
We make no difference between one and another of them:
And we bow to Allah [in Islam].”
Thank You Kindly Tun.
Salam Tun.
The trouble with Islam (Muslims) today, the backwardness, poverty, war etc. is not because of the religion but because of the wrong understanding of this great religion.
We have seen people from other religions like Buddhism, Chriastianity, Hinduism who are more prosperous than the Muslims in this world. To me these peoples, they do not take their religions, whether they are right or wrong, and practice them into their daily lives, like we Muslims do. We Muslims take our religious laws more seriously and try our best to follow ‘the way of Messenger Muhammad’ in every ways and means. So we are prone to suffer more if what we follow is wrong or can be dangerous to our spiritual and material developments.
As I said earlier, we have abandoned the religion of God which was brought through the Last Prophet of God (Muhammad). We have blatantly forsake our good laws (Quran) and take bad laws (hadiths). Some of our friends here fail to see this differences. They blame people like me as ‘anti-hadiths’ while never flich of their ‘anti-Quran’.
I have given many examples why not following the Quran will retard the growth of the Ummah.
I have a friend who is a good businessman and has millions of cash in the bank. When I suggest to him to invest in some very potentially lucrative business he replied that he does not want to ‘pay interest’, which he said is haram, and do not want to commit a sin. This is the same episodes that is going on with millions of people in the Muslim world today. To me this is a big sadness. Anyone even if he or she is ‘five years old’, like NikMat said, can understand from the Quran when Allah said that if ‘the money’ is for trade, it is halal. And if the money is not for trade then it is ‘riba’, haram. There have been many Muslim leaders througtout history who try to ‘rewrite the law’ but with no sucess. One that I can remember was when the King of Saudi Arabia, the late King Fahad, made one such suggestion during a big Islamic meeting in Mecca some more than ten years ago. But nothing has come out of it.
To wajaperak, I would like to remind you to treat opinions of others with some respect. We are here in discussions not to quarrel. Please do not make threaths. I believe that we all want to find the truth and pray for the sucess of the Ummah. “Believers should not be angry’ (Al-Quran). I do not know if you ever read all or any of the posts here or that you are already ‘preconceptual’ in your approach.
The one that ‘follow the right way’ is better than the one who ‘follow the wrong way’, even if he is less educated than the other or even if they are in the minority. We see many examples throughout the Quran where the prominent peoples are the ones that refuses to believe in the message of God when they were brought by the Messengers during their respectives periods.
Thank you Tun.
Salam Tun,
Below is the syahadah according to the Al Quran.
[3:18] God bears witness that there is no God except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute God; there is no God but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.
If you want to use a different syahadah then you are not following Al Quran.
Thank you Tun
Assalamu’alaikum wr wb.
Tn Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
“La ilaha ilALLAH, Muhammad Rasulullah”
1. Kalau setakat menyalin dan mencatatkan terjemahan ayat Quran berjela-jela dalam blog TnGuruDrM ni, spt yg dibuat oleh abdulazizomar dan dr syed alwi, budak darjah 5 sekolah Agama Islam yang sebenar pun boleh buat juga.
2. Sebaliknya jika menyesatkan penganut agama Islam sebenar dan memudaratkan penganut Islam sebenar, ha ………. yg itu jangan kata budak drj 5 sek. agama Islam sebenar tidak pandai nak buat, kami yang dewasa ini sebagai penganut agama Islam sebenar pun memang tidak akan lakukan.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Tun..moga sudi mengizinkan ruang..
Oleh kerana Tajuk Posting ini akan di hantar ke arkib..maka saya cuba membuat kesimpulan di atas hujah pembelaan..
[[1. Dr Syed Alwi bin Ahmad blames Islam for the failures of governance in Muslim countries]]
Tun..it is always the propagator of certain ism that is very much guilty of their own slogan and mantra.Case in point..Israel.. ..their “ism” is hell bent on banishment and war upon terror..Everytime I read the news about “keganasan” and “terrorism” like this..”Berita yang kami terima ini adalah serangan “Israel” ( Equate Israel with Terrorism )..it ceased no wonder to me how Israel gain worlwide notoriety in fighting themselves!!
So..What Dr Syed here have thing’s in common?..Kaki sembang dan kaki komplen..Rasullulah s.a.w saw the deterioration of moral values in his society.He took some time off to purify his soul in “khalwah” and by Allah allowances he slowly turns the tide of the improper values by self practicing those noble value.A revolution.A Reinassance.
But what we have here is the inability or rather apt the impotency of a man to follow suit.He could not muster erection to perform..Er..What I mean is gather the needeed resources in the mean of men and material to prove that somebody have to do job.Could do the job.But he leaves the the fairer side much to desires due to his own inability.Suffice to say he forgotten this Al Quran verse..
“Akan ditimpa kehinaan di mana sahaja kamu berada kecuali kamu tegakkan dua hubungan iaitu habluminallah (hubungan dengan Allah) dan habluminannas (hubungan dengan manusia)” (Al Imran: 112)..
It is utmost sad and melancholy pathetic blaming other’s for the failure of our own..and blaming Islam while claiming one is the follower is a double whammy!!..Crash..Bang..Boom!!..
And for the kafirian of Anti Hadith who actually is Dahari’s..
Try to be more honest in writing to Dato’ Dr Uthman El Muhamadiy and his kind of brethren,in seeking exchange of knowledges.DO NOT COME HERE FISHING..because your kail is only panjang sejengkal..And what happened in Sidaratul Muntaha??
To moderator: Please weed out this incitement of anti hadith.I knew which indvidual of you that supports and harbour them!For the sake of bigger achievement,please do not allow them in Tun blog.Feeding them publicity that they crave which they could not get in their blog htt://antihadith.kafir.cc/
And to our dearest Tun..may this story tugs at your heart strings..
Seorang makcik gelisah melihat anak perempuannya asyik muntah..Wuzzara..kenapa kau ni nak? Mak risau tengok kau ni..Tak ada apa-apa mak.Mak saya ada satu perkara saya nak berterus terang ( saya kan anak mak yang berani )..Saya sebenarnya dah bernikah..Hah!..Apa anak ku?..Tapi mak sendiri pun tak tahu??..Saya di nikahi oleh omarabdaziz di sebuah gua..MasyaAllah anak ku..Mana sijil nikahnya?..Mak nak tengok..Mak ni ( mula meninggi suara )..Tu la mak kolot..Dalam Al Quran mana ada di sebutkan ini semua??..omarabdaziz telah ‘membuka pintu hati kami’ dengan kebenaran..( emm bangganya aku..:( )
Akhirnya Siti Wuzzara di buang keluarganya.omarabdaziz yang di sangkanya akan membantunya telah meninggalkannya.Siti Wuzzarra dengan rahmat Allah berjaya juga dalam kehidupan dunianya tetapi kebenciannya kepada orang lain telah di terjemahkan kepada membenci Agama Islam.
Dengan tanpa malu dan segan silu beliau menyerang Islam dengan gelaran Makcik Hajjah Shitt Al Wuzzara..
Tun..bukankah keluarga pengedar dadah pernah memaki hamun Tun dengan pelbagai kata keji dan nista?Bukankah mereka terlupa yang anak-anak merekalah sebenarnya perosak anak bangsa kita?..Apa alasan mereka?..”Kami hanya menawarkan dadah.Kalau mereka menjadi penagih itu bukan salah kami!!Mengapa pula kami di hukum gantung??
Tun..pembawa kepada kemusnahan mesti di musnahkan terlebih dahulu..Itulah yang Tun lakukan dalam Kempen memerangi Dadah.Sekarang..Agama Islam diserang dengan pelbagai cara..sebab itu mengikut syariat sejati Agama Islam..mereka yang membawa ajaran sesat mesti di bunuh..
“ADAKAH ISLAM LEBIH MURAH DARI NILAI PASARAN DADAH???”
Sekian,ribuan terima kasih.
Selamat Hari Raya Maaf Zahir Batin.
Peace!
IN THE NAME OF GOD.
There are people who salat (contact prayer) 5 times in a day.
There are people who salat 3 times is a day.
There are people who do not salat at all.
There are people who salat more than 5 times in a day.
All of them read the same Quran but… all of them have different understanding of the Quran, different interpretation of the Quran.
Which one is the truth? No salat at all? 3 times salat? 5 times salat? Or more than 5 times salat?
Edip Yuksel, Kassim Ahmad, Pak Man, ustaz UMNO, ustaz PAS, ustaz PKR and etc. have their own different understanding and interpretation of the Quran.
That’s the reason why GOD sent a clarifying messenger with proof. That’s why the messenger has no choice but to declare his messengership so that we know whom we should follow.
As such, let us obey and follow the clarifying messenger, rather than follow other humans or our own understanding and interpretation of the Quran.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWVsaSy9HXg
GOD bless.
Salam Tun, saya ingin megucapkan Selamat Hari Raya kepada Tun dan keluarga dan semua saudara yang membaca post ini.
To MiddleAges I would like say please do not surrender!!
The Quran tells us that humans have ‘heavy burden ahead of him’.
You are right that the trouble with Islam today is not the religion itself but the people who misinterpret it by mixing truths with falshood. They say that if you throw a piece of a block it will not go as far as when you break it into smaller pieces. They say that the ‘greatest truth is the simplest’. And the Quran also says that ‘Besides the truth whatelse but falshood?’ And they also say that if you put a frog in a boiling water it will jump out and be saved. But if you put the frog in cool water and slowly boil it, the frog will die (the parable of lies).
And to Nikmat I would like to say that the trouble with the Muslims world today is not the interpretation of Islam through the Quran but rather of ‘accepting’ the message of God that is brought to this world through Muhammad, the Last Prophet. Apa yang nak di tafsirkan sedangkan ajaran AlQuran yang terang2 pun kita tidak nak ikut? Kita memutarbelikan ugama Allah yang suci ini dengan factor2 asing sehinggakan Islam yang di tinggalkan olih Nabi Muhammad sudah jauh berubah dari yang asal. Kalau ada orang nak membetulkan kesalahan kita, kita kata orang itu sudah masuk syaitan!!
I think that we all want our people to progress and we watch with great sadness the faith of our brothers and sisters who are constantly at war and have no peace.
It is not the interpretation of Islam but rather the refusal of us to adhere to the true message of Islam. For example the Quran tells us that the Day of Judgement will happen during ‘day or night’. This is a simple sciencetifically proven fact that the world is round!! But we Muslims still believe from hadiths, that on that day the sun will rise from the west halfway and go down again!! There are hundreds of things like this that we refuse to follow. When God tells us clearly in the Quran that the moon, the sun and the stars are to be used as ‘calculating devises’, we still want to see the physical sighting of the moon to start and stop fasting during Ramadhan!! But at the same time we do not see the sun rise to start the morning prayer!! When the Quran says clearly that Haj could be observed during the ‘known months’ (plural), we still stick to tradition of celebrating the Haj only on ‘ a specific day’!!! Does God make mistakes in His grammar? The whole trouble is that we take another source besides the Quran and thus throw ourselves offcource and into darkness. You might think that simple things like covering the faces of the women in Islam is not harmful or even good for the Muslims. But the trouble is that this is never asked by God to be done by the women!! Do you think that God forget to tell us? No, ‘ God never forgets’ (Quran).
We are beginning to see the awakening of the Ummah in the world today and I hope that something good will come to us. With the computer and the technologies, we can bring the message of God to the world much more efficiently.
Victory will certainly come to the believers when we start to follow the ‘religion of God’ and cast away the ‘religion of men’!!Quran says 48:1 ‘We have bestowed upon you a great victory’
Quran 41:53 ‘We will show them our proofs in the horizons, and within themselves, until they realize that this (Quran) is the truth’. Also in 110:1-3 (last surah revealed) ‘When triumph comes from God and victory. You will see the people embracing God’s religion in throngs. You shall glorify and praise your Lord, and implore Him for forgiveness. He is the Redeemer’.
On this ‘night of power’ I would like to wish all believers a great journey through this mortal life and pray for forgiveness and victory to all. Let us cast away all the bad in us and strive for the best for us and our families. May Allah guide us all.
Thank you Tun
Salam Tun,
There is already a platform for the renewal of Islam.
I am not affilliated in any way with them.
Thank You Kindly Tun
Dear Tun,
May I refer to MiddleAges. It is true that Islam prohibits his portrait be drawn and circulated in order to prevent idol worship. But Islam is the religion of practice(agama amalan) based on Quran, sunnah and Hadis. We must try to emulate how Mohammad lived life based on the holy Quran. It is the Quran that Mohammad and all genuine Muslims follow. Sunnah and hadis reinforce and deepen our understanding of why and how the Quran is supposed to be practised.
I am sorry False Prophet abdolazizomar if you are angry. Syaitan dan Iblis telah menyesatkan anda. Banyak2lah mengucap dua kalimah syahadah supaya anda memeluk islam kembali. La ila ha illalah Mohammada Rasullullah. Kalimah kedua baca kuat sikit
amin tan
Salam Tun,
Homing in….
@parameswara 2.
8-We don’t impose our beliefs on others, we have to face God who will tell us our deeds.You have your beliefs and we have ours – that is no compulsion in religion.
Then, let there be no compulsion in religion, by law. Uphold this sacred law.
I’m done Tun, Thank You Much for the Space.
Peace be with you.
What does Masih mean in “Masih ’Isa.”?
Was any other of the 124,000 prophets the Muslims revere given that designation?
Which one of the 124,000 can help a person get to heaven?
’Isa, or Jesus, is holy; ’Isa has power over death; and ’Isa knows the way to heaven.
Adam was forced to leave paradise because of sin. Sin causes death.
The Messiah who was to enter the world and bruise the head of Satan was to come through the seed of woman (Gen. 3:15).
’Isa, or Jesus, the “Masih”, can “bring dead to life.”
Those who deny the truth that ’Isa proclaims will be far below those who follow his truth.
John 14:6 (KJV)
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Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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John 17:3
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And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
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Matthew 5:44
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But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
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Matthew 5:45
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That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
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Peace be with you, in Jesus’ name.
Dearest tun
I actually want to exit this topic..may be my last one.
Middle ages
1-The problem with you people once you reject the hadis outright is that you begin to imagine that our prophet Muhammad is just God’s delivery boy to bring us the ‘koran’.There is nothing great about him vis-a-vis the other prophets.I agree that all prophets of God are equal in status as prophets but their achievements are not necessarily the same.
2-// Michael J Hart The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History, which has sold more than 500,000 copies and been translated into 15 languages. What mainly surprised readers in this book was the first person on Hart’s list (Hart, 1992). Hart decided to choose Muhammad over Jesus or Moses. Hart attributes this to the fact that Muhammad was “supremely successful” in both the religious and secular realms. He also accredits the authorship of the Qur’an to Muhammad, making his role in the development of Islam far more influential than Jesus’ collaboration in the development of Christianity. He attributes the development of Christianity to St. Paul, who played a pivotal role in the dissemination of Christianity.//wikepedia
3-All other prophets before Muhammad did not have the kind of success to influence their people to a complete submission in their lifetime.Many of them had their people snubbing them completely.John the baptist was murdered.Jesus had only around thirty followers before his ascension.We do not know how many followers Abraham had but we know that many prophets after him had come to continue renewing the faith.But still inspite it all this perfect religion of Islam had not prevailed over the promised Holyland covering the Euphrates to the Nile.It was only during our prophet Muhammad,’in his lifetime’ that this whole land mass of about 3 million sq km have been subdued to the almighty Allah.And since the 7th century AD it is still standing,although not in its glorious and united form that it was before.
4-The prophet had more to offer than meets the eye.As one of the world’s most influential guy he has got a lot to teach us if only we are humble enough.There is nothing wrong to be a fan of the world’s most influential man.There is nothing wrong to emulate the world’s most influential man as your model.In fact you’d be a fool not to learn anything at all from a successful personality.What more when he is your own beloved Prophet.
5-Actually if only you care to study the philosophy behind the prophet’s success you will understand that there is ‘ science’ behind it all.The right human materials factor,the right center factor,the right time factor,etc,etc.Nothing happen in a vacuum everything happen in compliance with the laws of cause and effects.The prophet is afforded the ‘leverages’ not afforded all the other earlier prophets.If only you care to meet I am willing to elaborate more on this ‘sciences’.
6-Once again we must identify the ‘leverages’ this time around, the time,the place,the human resources,etc,if it is afforded again.If you notice the trends,than you can safely conclude that ‘time’ for the works may be back again.But just like the first it would be God’s choice of candidates,’the party of truth’ whoever would be selected for this ‘restoration’ job.These people must definitely come from that new right center for the 21st century wherever that it is.I imagine we must not waste all the right levers like the internet and other advance telecommunication media.Anyway ‘the party of truth’ whoever they are will know what to do.I wish to be one of them if that center is Malaysia.If it is care to join me?
7-Let me assure you this restoration to our original strength is not a negative one.It will be a peaceful and glorious one because the power of the 21st century ‘leverages’ would enable this ‘restored’ truth enter every home more effectively so there will be less resistance as before.It would be as peaceful as how the Straits of Malacca and the Silk Route accepted Islam en-mass 700 year ago.What happened in the 7th and 14th century AD can happen again in this 21st century.All of mankind will eventually submit to the ALMIGHTY.Then it will be the end of history.God’s plan “to proclaim Islam over all religion” would eventually have been fulfilled.Wallahualam.
8-Yes help and victory is coming,but how?
Surah Al Nasr THE HELP
‘When comes the Help of God, and Victory, And thou dost see the people enter God’s Religion in crowds, Celebrate the praises of thy Lord, and pray for His Forgiveness: For He is Oft-Returning (in Grace and Mercy)’
Insya Allah,that’s how.
Peace be upon you!
Thanks Tun.
Assallammualaikumwarahamtullahiwabarokatuh..
Semoga Tun sudi mengizinkan ruangan..
Parameswara 2
[[wajaperak equates me with Dtan and middle ages.He thinks that the three of us are good at logic ‘aqli’. I am really confused ,didn’t the alQuran also command us to think,and use our logic aqli?
Thank you Mr Parameswara 2 in getting this in right perspective.Of course Al Quran asked us to think but how to think?The 'allowance' of that thought already been underlined by Rasullulah s.a.w
"Hendaklah kamu memikirkan tentang Allah dan ciptaanNya.Jangan kamu memikirkan tentang Zat Allah.Nanti kamu binasa"..
Coming back to the very essence of this dispute.What actually all this argument all about?It is about education.Everybody must be educated in Islam.That is why it is Fardu Ain that every able bodied muslim must learns.And the first basic learning is knowing Allah that is what the whole mainstream muslim education is all about.
We learns through our ustaz and ustazah.The proper islamic teacher.Through pondok and 'secular' school.But the basic is still the same.You are not allowed to question the methodology of the system which is 1400 year's old.Why? Nabi Musa a.s learned it the hard way in Surah Al Kahfi.Don't you check your statement first according to the naqli fact?..This is something we called nas.Evidence base according to the Al Quran,Hadith and the atsar..Sahabah ways of performing Islamic deed.
We must not question the Islamic convention of constituitional establishment..We can only questions when we need to know how to performs Islamic deed..We works along inside the safety of confinement that is pure belief.Summing it up with this hadith
"Mereka yang banyak bertanya..Lemahlah imannya"..
[[Is there anything wrong with that?Do you study the sciences in the Quran using a different logic?]]
Yes we do.We study Al Quran using the norm practices mainstream of the whole wide world muslim and we complemented them by using tassawuf..Something which you did not.Don’t you realizes the sciences in the quran is started here??
Al Baqarah 3
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them..
The unseen..The spirit of thing’s..The metaphysical of essential beings..So..What we have here is body without soul.Plain and simple.Without ‘naqli’ fact revealation,your argument is soulless..Fine in the physical aspect..wanting in the soul department..
[[I don’t believe Cat Stevens studied the awaltuddin Makrifatullah first before he was captivated by the magic of the alQuran?I believe he was only using the logic that God have given all of us]]
Suffice to says Cat Stevens ‘connected’ with his former soul that is missing before..
Finally..what common values that we have with aqli people??
The inability to follow the TRUE islamic teaching starting with education.Soulless people..If you ask me I says they do not appears like zombie..But their characteristic is so..They who does not know and does not care to read Al Quran by using our methodology in tajwid,tartil and does not have the ability to illustrates their argument using this fine line of Islamic education in short is
VERY MUCH SHORT..
Terima kasih Tun
Salam Tun,
May i address the others.
parameswara 2 says to abdulazizomar…
“1-Since you have abrogated the hadis completely,baby and bathwater,you can’t be someone who accept our Prophet as our model,that’s what I was alluding to..I ”
and amin tan says…
“If we dismiss sunnah and hadis outright, then we deprive ourselves of perfect human example and the context in which the Quran was revealed.”
Therein lies the crux of the problem in the interpretation of Islam in Malaysia. Islam muslims in Malaysia believe that to be Islamic is to be like Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him ).
“Our model” says parameswara 2.
“perfect human example” says amin tan.
It’s a very big fan club, this despite the Prophet Muhammad even went to the extent of prohibiting his potrait be drawn and circulated. I simply don’t know what to say.
I surrender.
Thank You Kindly Tun
Salam Tun,
More responses…
Parameswara 2 said, among other things…
“5-If Allah have felt that the time has come for Islam to be restored to its original strength again, it would be easy for God.The leverages are all already here,some you are already using like the internet,but there are still more to be exploited.”
1. A truly amazing statement. Kinda like, we need to wait for Science and Technology before God can do restoration works. Sort of “work in progress” right now. Something you know that we don’t ? I do not know what is this Islam you are talking about and what exactly you mean by “original strength”, but i certainly hope it is in good spirit and in good faith.
“8-Yes middle ages,pls encourage all your friends to be man enough to prove to all of us that they are indeed from God.”
2. This “man enough” phrase suggests an element of ego involved. Religion of Islam, and in fact all great world religions, is not about ego. It is not about one having to prove anything. No one can “prove” God exists.
It is definitely not about proving oneself to be a man. That’s male chauvinism speaking. You probably would not accept a woman Prime Minister.
3. I merely suggested “abdulazizomar” to serve the greater purpose ( and burden ) of bringing his Islam to society, but as he answered, he tried before and was blocked by religious authorities of Malaysia, who probably do not subscribe to freedom of religious belief.
In which case i would happily now suggest to “abdulazizomar” to then allow the religious authorities to carry on with that burden, under the watchful eyes of all the people of Malaysia, and even the world as Dr. Syed puts it. Maybe we can make it into world headlines often without the need to pay lots to the media people.
4. I do not even even know if “abdulazizomar” exists. I did not know that there is a “fatwa” against these so called “anti-hadith” group, because it is all none of my business before. But it has now become my business because no man is an island. It is however, not a pressing matter to me. Who needs progress anyway. The government is always there to serve us and is responsible for progress, right ? In fact, when “Kingdom comes” as you put it, we would have to work again, and our holidays would be over. How sad. So there, brother “abdulazizomar”. Let it be.
Thank You Kindly Tun
Everyone agrees with Islam but is question of situational priority,capacity,methodology to achieve objective of Islam both in this world and hereafter.
Tunku had done his part and he is in the age of republican and secularism lead by Attaturk he compromise. He keep the Sultan (being prince himself he understand the Sultan perpective),Keep Islam religion of state and Bumiputra as owner of the land (Tanah Melayu- Malaysia). Tun Razak di his part on economic and education,Tun Hussin On Amanah Saham and Tun Mahathir Industrialization. Leader with limited resource and time have to focus on certain aspect first.If we list all the aspiration of Islam surely you cannot fulfill all and people often disagree with priority. That the reason dispute among the Sahabat after during Othman,Ali and so on….
Ottoman practice of killing brothers is wrong but cival war of succession is even worse. Even Aurangazeb killed his elder brother Dara Sikhoh who began cosolidating power by the support of Jaswan Sign and Auragazeb declare Dara no longer Muslim.
Salam Tun
It seems like that our friends cannot differentiate between what our Prophet said and what ‘people said our prophet said’. I have had some heated discussions with some friends who asked with frustrations, that if the so called hadiths are truly the words of Prophet Muhammad, would I believe them? And I replied that I would certainly do! First we have to make our faith clear. Believing in hadiths is not a must to be considered a Muslim. Otherwise most of the Muslim scholars like Abu Hanifa, Imam Safie, Malik, Imam Hambali and Imam Jafaar who did not accept some or most hadiths that the others accept to be kafirs. Among these ulamas they reject some hadiths that the others accept to become law. The criteria to become ‘Muslim’ is to believe in God, His Angels, His Messengers, His Books and to believe in the Day of Judgement. Nowhere is the Quran God tells us to believe in a ‘hadith’. In fact the Quran tells us that the meaning of a kafir (unbeliever) is the one that do not believe or accept what God tells us (Quran). If the Quran says something please do believe them!! God always says to believe in God and His Messenger. This is because God does not manifest Himself physically to us and thus He sends His Messenger. To believe in His messenger is to believe in what was divinely brought through him to us and not in what other people say ‘what the messenger says’!!! Do you find it difficult to understand this? Like when you build a house, you have to place all the pillars in straight positions and the other structures will follow suite. The same with our iman, faith, we have to start in the right position and we will never get lost. Follow the Quran and light that comes with it and you will never get lost. If you get lost in the jungle and then you take a compass that show different ways out, you can never find your way out!! Our Prophet Muhammad was commanded to teach only the Quran and nothing else. The Quran says in 69:43-52 ‘ This is a revelation from the Lord of the universe. Had he (Muhammad) uttered any other teachings. We would have seized him by his right hand (punish). And then We would certainly cut off his life artery (stopped his mission). None of you could have helped him. And verily this (Quran) is a reminder for the righteous. We know some of you are rejectors. It is but sorrow for the disbelievers. It is the absolute truth. So glorify the name of your Lord, the Most Great’.
Prophet was told many times in the Quran that his mission WAS ONLY to deliver the Quran to humanity. When God says that ‘You are a mercy to the worlds’, it means that the message that Muhammad brought and not him as a person. Muhammad lived as a Messenger of God only for a period of about 23 years but his message (Quran) will last until the end of the world, thus he was a mercy to the worlds!! And he was told clearly and strongly in the Quran that ‘your mission oh Muhammad is to bring clear message (Quran) to the world’. And also the Quran are words of the Messenger (Muhammad) ‘these (Quran) are the words of the Honorable Messenger’ (Innahu kau la rasul karim).
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
Amin Tan, what is nonsense? Quran revelations are nonsense to you? And your hadith is no nonsense to you? You are really sick in your head. I am so sorry for you and your mere lip service of believing in Allah and His revelations. You claim that you believe in Muhammad but deserting Quran against his wills. It was Muhammad who brought the Quran but you insist on your way to defend hadith which was not brought by Muhammad. You are really blind and just deaf in your ears. You cant even believe and be certain of God’s revelations but you are so certain of the hadith. What is wrong with your logic?
If you insist on your way then so be it. Let Allah deal with you and people like you who continuously mocking and not certain of God’s revelations.
Its very hard talking to people who are deaf, blind and dumb!
May Allah guide us all.
Thank you Tun!
Tun
1-wajaperak equates me with Dtan and middle ages.He thinks that the three of us are good at logic ‘aqli’. I am really confused ,didn’t the alQuran also command us to think,and use our logic aqli?Is there anything wrong with that?Do you study the sciences in the Quran using a different logic?I don’t believe Cat Stevens studied the awaltuddin Makrifatullah first before he was captivated by the magic of the alQuran?I believe he was only using the logic that God have given all of us.
2-BTW Middle ages, AbdulAzizOmar,Kassim Muhamad Hussain,Hidden Secrets and many more, I believe your Abraham Muslims Sect (this sounds more positive than ANTIhadis)have quite a following already here in Malaysia.So its about time you people your start making public appearance roadshows now.
3-Have more confidence in yourselves.Don’t be afraid,your Nabi in particular is even willing to be burnt alive and he even sacrificed his only son(at that time) out of his love of God,hence the title,’friend of God’.Shouldn’t you people emulate him at least just a little wee bit?
4-Actually for one who uses a lot of my ‘I.K.O.S’ I actually am impressed by your dedication and also knowledge in your version of the alQuran.I am particularly impressed with Hidden Secrets knowledge of the hadis.You people working together would have a compelling case against the hadis.You could easily win over people who use akal alone and not so knowledgeable like me.
5-Maybe you people are right.Maybe I am right.Maybe wajaperak,Amin Tan,sudin,zulkiflee arif ,JB from and samurai melayu are right.Maybe Jolly the baby and Dtan is right.Or maybe all of us are wrong.But not all of us can be right.I think there is no point of going on and on arguing about our faith in this blog,there will be no end.
6-Why don’t we wait for the results to be announced by the only one who knows the truth soon?Not in this world,then in the hereafter.Don’t worry the time will come soon enough.
7-In the meanwhile why don’t we all just go about believing whatever we believe sincerely with all our hearts and our soul.We are all over 18 and matured enough to think for ourselves.Let us respect each other in our beliefs.If anyone want to believe in the hadis let them have the peace of mind to do just that.If someone else feel right to abrogate the hadis then do it,its a free world.
8-We don’t impose our beliefs on others, we have to face God who will tell us our deeds.You have your beliefs and we have ours – that is no compulsion in religion.
May peace be upon you.
Thanks Tun
Salam Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
1. Islam adalah agama suci dari Allah swt yang menyelamatkan hamba2nya di dunia dan di akhirat.
2. Islam – apabila ia disalahtafsir, maka kemusnahanlah kepada mereka yang menyalahtafsirkannya.
3. Islam boleh disalahtafsirkan akibat daripada :
a. Mahu berebut kuasa, seperti nak berebut jadi PM, berebut nak memerintah
b. Mahu cari pengaruh
c. Mencaci Allah, Tuhan pencipta langit dan bumi serta makhluk di antara keduanya.
d. Bekerjasama dengan syaitan
Semua itu boleh memusnahkan; samada org yg menyalahtafsirkannya atau pun orang lain
TGDrM, saya ucapkan “Selamat Hari Raya 1432H”
Taqobalallahu min(g)kum
Salam Tun,
Points on monothesim.
parameswara 2 wrote :-
10-Our Prophet Muhammad is the confirmed last one because it is through him that Islam has already become perfected.You can’t improve something that is already perfect.
1. It does not work like that. There is already a perfect system of belief, of monothesitic belief. It is Islam. It was installed by Prophet Ibrahim ( peace be upon him ). And that is as far as one can logically get in monotheism. It is pefect logic.
2. You missed the point that monotheism was stared by Prophet Ibrahim. It could not be sustained throughout the ages because people keep straying, like sheeps straying from the shepherds protection, *after* the religion of Abraham. Even until today. We are hard wired to argue.
3. You cannot deny Islam is already perfect when it was started, because it says so in the Quran. If the Quran says it is perfect, then perhaps you might want to give it a little bit of consideration, no ? How about a little trust in the Quran ?
Quran
[6:161] Say, “My Lord has guided me in a straight path–the perfect religion of Abraham, monotheism. He never was an idol worshiper.”
Submission (Islam): Abraham’s Religion*
[2:135] They said, “You have to be Jewish or Christian, to be guided.” Say, “We follow the religion of Abraham–monotheism–he never was an idol worshiper.”
[9:32] They want to put out GOD’s light with their mouths, but GOD insists upon perfecting His light, in spite of the disbelievers.
[3:69] Some followers of the scripture wish to lead you astray, but they only lead themselves astray, without perceiving.
Abraham: Original Messenger of Islam*
[22:78] You shall strive for the cause of GOD as you should strive for His cause. He has chosen you and has placed no hardship on you in practicing your religion–the religion of your father Abraham. He is the one who named you “Submitters” originally. Thus, the messenger shall serve as a witness among you, and you shall serve as witnesses among the people. Therefore, you shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and hold fast to GOD; He is your Lord, the best Lord and the best Supporter.
parameswara 2 also said …
3-Islam that God have given our prophet is the perfected islam suited for the age of science and discovery while the one given the ealier prophets were still in its infancy.
4. This statement is simply not true, and is to me grossly misleading not to mention an injustice to all previous Prophets and Messengers of Islam.
Islam is perfect ever since Prophet Abraham. Islam by the Prophet Muhamad is the continuation of the Islam of Prophet Abraham, and that is how Islam will continue forever. No need for human intervention.
parameswara 2 also asserts that …
“This iS God’s firman to confirm;-”Today I have perfected your religion for you, and have bestowed upon you the full measure of My blessings, and willed that self-surrender unto Me shall be your way of life.”
The Holy Quran, 5:3
I think you misread the script. It says “self-surrender unto Me shall be your way of life”, and that is crystal clear to me. The religion of Muhammad and the religion of Abraham and of All Prophets and Messengers of Allah are All Islam. They are all “self-surrender unto God”. They are all perfect.
“Today” refers to the day Prophet Muhamad ( peace be upon him ) acquires the perfect religion of Abraham. It cannot refer to anything else. Truth stand clear from error.
That is all my interpretation of course. The Prophets and Messengers of Allah all speak the same message, the message being “pray to God”, so it does not worry me at all whatever your interpretation is.
If you have a personal liking for Prophet Muhamad, that is fine, but to claim Islam was perfected only by the arrival of Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him ) is ignoring the real history of monotheism.
In one stroke, you eliminated Christianity, Judaism, Abrahanism and other monotheistic religions i may not know of, but Allah knows. You will then not accept the Torah and the Gospel. You then reject “People of the Books”.
Still, it is fine with me, many “Islam” muslims in Malaysia are like that i know, the loss is their own. But what a great loss it is, i assure you.
Quran
[5:59] Say, “O people of the scripture, do you not hate us because we believe in GOD, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed before us, and because most of you are not righteous?”
[5:65] If only the people of the scripture believe and lead a righteous life, we will then remit their sins, and admit them into gardens of bliss.
[5:68] Say, “O people of the scripture, you have no basis until you uphold the Torah, and the Gospel, and what is sent down to you herein from your Lord.” For sure, these revelations from your Lord will cause many of them to plunge deeper into transgression and disbelief. Therefore, do not feel sorry for the disbelieving people.
[5:77] Say, “O people of the scripture, do not transgress the limits of your religion beyond the truth, and do not follow the opinions of people who have gone astray, and have misled multitudes of people; they are far astray from the right path.”
So i believe it is advantegeous to belief in ALL the scriptures from Allah. In case some worry they may go astray, there is only Allah, so how could you go astray ? And it certainly helps with the “Interpretation of Islam”, which is the main title of Tuns blog.
We all have our current belief of course, which is most fine, no doubt. I personally prefer to have one monotheistic religion.
Thank You Kindly Tun
Salam Tun,
Short points.
@parameswara 2
If you say so, yes. I’m not here to argue. Allah knows better. Please accept my apology.
Abraham: Original Messenger of Islam*
[4:125] Who is better guided in his religion than one who submits totally to GOD, leads a righteous life, according to the creed of Abraham: monotheism? GOD has chosen Abraham as a beloved friend.
@abdulazizomar
the Quran speaks correctly only to a “quiet soul” and a “teachable heart”
I rest now Tun
Thank You.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to share some articles made Sinar Harian.
http://malaysiakini.com/news/173845
They said that the Christians are using 4 methods to influence the thinking and doing of Muslim in Malaysia. This is to ‘MURTADKAN’ Muslims in Malaysia.
People who wrote this articles were so ignorant of their action. They thought the religions of Christian teach people to be bad. All the bad habits come from Christian. All the negative come from other people from other religions. And when Muslims are following to foot step of Satan, they blame Muslims because of Christianity influence. How embarrassing and sick is their thinking? Their mentality is so sick that they think religion of Christian teach people to be bad and evil person.
Have they read the Bible and understand it? Never you see in the Bible that it teaches bad behavior. Just like how Quran never teach the people to be evil.
But still there are many Muslims that are not guided and end up being a bad person in the society. But you can’t go around and blame Christians for that. If a Christian person is bad, it is because he/she is bad. She/he does not follow the right teaching of Christians. Just like if a Muslim is bad, he/she is bad because of her own doing. Nothing to do with Islam. Islam, Christians, and Jewish religion does not permit evil. Only human with Satan influence that will do bad things in this world.
Please use your brain and understand the roots of the problem. People do not follow the religion of God simply because they were influence by Satan. People from all religions including Islam is severely corrupted. Many of you may not agree with me but everyone of us study the scripture carefully, we will find the answer!
Thank you Tun.
Dear Tun,
By following Ibrahim, Musa, Muhammad and all other prophets, you are following the right teaching of Islam. All the lesson for us to take heed are written in the Quran. I am not questioning that. I have been giving you all the proofs from the verses from Al Quran to encourage everyone of us here to read Quran and take heed from it. Not by following Hadith. Hadith is not from Muhammad.
To wajaperak, please never say that Allah refer to Muhammad when Allah ask you to obey Allah, obey Rasul. If Allah wanted to mention his name, Allah would say obey Muhammad. But Allah wanted people to follow Muhammad as a Rasul. When Allah mentioned Nabi, was when Nabi was alive and giving dakwah to the people.
You cant simply change the meaning of the Quran to please your ego.
One of the major prophecies in the Quran is that God’s Messenger of the Covenant will be sent after all the prophets have come to this world, and after all of God’s scriptures have been delivered.
God took a covenant from the prophets, saying, “I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him.” He said, “Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?” They said, “We agree.” He said, “You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you.” [3:81]
Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall translated 3:81 as follows:
When Allah made (His) covenant with the Prophets, (He said): Behold that which I have given you of the Scripture and knowledge. And afterward there will come unto you a messenger, confirming that which ye possess. Ye shall believe in him and ye shall help him. He said: Do ye agree, and will ye take up My burden (which I lay upon you) in this (matter)? They answered: We agree. He said: Then bear witness. I will be a witness with you.
We learn from Sura 33 that Muhammad was one of the prophets who made that solemn covenant with God.
And when we exacted a covenant from the Prophets, and from thee (O Muhammad) and from Noah and Abraham and Moses and Jesus son of Mary, We took from them a solemn covenant. [33:7] (according to Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall)
Verse 3:81, among many other verses, provides the definitions of “Nabi” (Prophet) and “Rasoul” (Messenger). Thus, “Nabi” is a messenger of God who delivers a new scripture, while “Rasoul” is a messenger commissioned by God to confirm existing scripture; he does not bring a new scripture. According to the Quran, every “Nabi” is a “Rasoul,” but not every “Rasoul” is a “Nabi.”
Not every messenger was given a new scripture. It is not logical that God will give a scripture to a prophet, then ask him to keep it exclusively for himself, as stated by some Muslim “scholars” (2:42, 146, 159). Those who are not sufficiently familiar with the Quran tend to think that Aaron was a “Nabi,” as stated in 19:53, who did not receive a scripture. However, the Quran clearly states that the Torah was given specifically “to both Moses and Aaron” (21:48, 37:117).
We learn from the Quran, 33:40, that Muhammad was the last prophet (Nabi), but not the last messenger (Rasoul):
Muhammad was not the father of any of your men; he was a messenger (Rasoul) of God and the last prophet (Nabi). [ 33:40 ]
From time immemorial, it has been a human trait to reject a contemporary, living messenger. Joseph was declared “the last messenger” (40:34). Yet, many messengers came after him, including Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus, and Muhammad.
So if one day another messenger come to this world proving God’s divine scripture, will you then believe? When are you going to believe?
If every time a messenger come to you, to remind you that we need to uphold the Quran alone and all our worship belongs to Allah alone. He did not ask anyone to praise him or even mention his name. But you people end up praising Muhammad against his will. Yet you claim yourself to be doing the right thing. How could Muhammad ask people to praise his name in Syahadah when all the prophets bring one and same message. There is no god except Allah.
God bless us all…
Thank you Tun
Peace Be Upon You.
Let us walk the talk…
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 31, Number 167:
Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah:
Allah’s Apostle was on a journey and saw a crowd of people, and a man was being shaded (by them). He asked, “What is the matter?” They said, “He (the man) is fasting.” The Prophet said, “IT IS NOT RIGHTEOUS THAT YOU FAST ON A JOURNEY.”
GOD bless.
Dear Tun,
All fataawa are derived from evidence from the three sources of Islamic knowledge: the Qur’an, authentic Sunnah, and understanding of the rightly guided companions of the Prophet Muhammad
Quran is revealed knowledge from Allah to Mohammad through Arch Angel, Gibrael asking Mohammad to spread the good tidings to mankind.
Sunnah is the behaviour or what or how he did certain things
Hadis is he recorded saying of Mohammad by his close companions Aishah, Ali, Abu Bakar, Omar and others
1. Quran. There is no dispute. Every verses from the Quran was revealed to Mohammad with a reason. We must study the life history of Mohammad and his struggle to understand the Quran more perfectly, so that the revealed verse has a context. For example, the Muslims lost in the battle of Uhud, then revelation came reprimanding greed. The requirement of 4 credible witnesses was revealed because Aishah was rumoured to have improper relationship with Safuan.
If we dismiss sunnah and hadis outright, then we deprive ourselves of perfect human example and the context in which the Quran was revealed.
To abdulazizomar, please stop your nonsence. You don’t try to be a prophet. You don’t try to be cleverer than the Saudi Fatwa Committee. All your writings are in English whereas Quran is in Lughatul Arabia. You are wrong, deviant and wasting people’s time.
amin tan
Peace Be Upon You.
IN THE NAME OF GOD.
Hadith has nothing to do with Prophet Muhammad and they are lies attributed to him.
Hadith insult Prophet Muhammad by giving false description of him, by portraying him as a sex maniac who was busy fulfilling his lust, busy with sex-hopping with nine (or eleven?) women in a night.
Hadith are also lies attributed to GOD. Did GOD really give Muhammad the strength of thirty men? Did GOD really turn Muhammad into Superman?
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:
Narrated Qatada:
Anas bin Malik said, “The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number.” I asked Anas, “Had the Prophet the strength for it?” Anas replied, “We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men).” And Sa’id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).
Regards and GOD bless.
Dearest tun
may I..abdulazizOmar/middle ages
1-Since you have abrogated the hadis completely,baby and bathwater,you can’t be someone who accept our Prophet as our model,that’s what I was alluding to..I sincerely have no intention of mocking you here,but truly sorry if I have offended you Aziz.
2-I find it truly interesting that you people would rather
consider yourself ummat Nabi Ibrahim i/o being Ummat Nabi Muhamad inspite it was Muhammad who delivered this Islam and the alQuran to you.Are you aware that the Islam of all earlier prophets is not a complete Islam as yet?
3-Islam that God have given our prophet is the perfected islam suited for the age of science and discovery while the one given the ealier prophets were still in its infancy.This iS God’s firman to confirm;-”Today I have perfected your religion for you, and have bestowed upon you the full measure of My blessings, and willed that self-surrender unto Me shall be your way of life.” The Holy Quran, 5:3
4-When God wanted to establish Islam in this world God provided all the leverages to our prophet to do just that.God provided the right individual,the right helpers,the right human materials,at the right strategic place in the World,the right time,with the rightly executed plan.And some of these inputs took years to become of help,some even thousands of years.
5-If Allah have felt that the time has come for Islam to be restored to its original strength again, it would be easy for God.The leverages are all already here,some you are already using like the internet,but there are still more to be exploited.
6-The people God would choose for the mission would be someone who would be aware of the opportunities already afforded and able to utilise all these facilities to bring about the desired results again.It is for easy for God to resurrect all the right whatever it takes to be in place again.Some may have been prepared a thousand years ago and may be ready soon.
7-Agree with middle ages I don’t think the way it is being done now the right way at all.Where is the hiqmah?You people come into this blog insulting the Muslims as idol worshippers for following hadis..and that we honor the word of man more than the word of God,we have been brainwashed,we are stupid,etc,etc.and you want us to listen to you?Is this the way of the alQuran?
8-Yes middle ages,pls encourage all your friends to be man enough to prove to all of us that they are indeed from God.Because if you really are true, god would not forsake you .God would not appoint a Messenger of the Covenant and then just let this all important mission go ‘hidup segan mati tak mahu’. If you really believe in Rashad,you must believe that God will surely help you as God had helped the Rasullullah and the Quraish 1400 years ago.
9-If God wants a restoration job done trust me God would have the means to realize it.I am one who earnestly believe that time for help is near.Corruption is too rampant outside of the AlQuran and we muslims seem so helpless.The signs for salvation is all over the place and yes I am for a revolution.But I am only waiting for a guided leader and not another Prophet or Messenger.
10-Our Prophet Muhammad is the confirmed last one because it is through him that Islam has already become perfected.You can’t improve something that is already perfect.
Thanks Tun
Dear Tun,
Middle Ages suggest that I meet Parameswara2 and others to discuss about this. This message has been brought up before. What did they do? What did government do? They called those who uphold Quran alone kafir and called them wrong practice of Islam because they do not follow the majority Sunni practice in Malaysia.
The problem with the government Malaysia is that they control all the religious practice of all religions. Why? Is it because for their benefit? Or is it because for the safety of the country? But I still read/see on newspaper about religion conflicts in Malaysia. If they are doing their job sincerely then all this wont be happening. If they want to have a peaceful country with no compulsion in religion then everyone can practice their religion equally. Then InsyAllah our country will be peace and people of all races and religions practice can live together happily.
When the message has come for all of us to understand the miracle of Quran, with number 19, many people are against it. Because? Because it expose their ideology of Quran alone is not enough. They need more
books to explain the Quran. I cant agree with that. But if you people insist on your way to use hadith to help you to understand Quran then it is your problem. I am asking you here to believe in the Quran. Nothing else.
Wajaperak, why don’t you go and read surah 9 (Bara’ah) and also read Surah Maryam. You will see many proofs that Allah against those who mentioned another name beside His name in your prayers. Never did any of the prophet before mentioned any other names. Then now suddenly after Muhammad passed away, Bukhari and etc told you to mention Muhammad’s name as well? Muhammad also never did. Abraham also never did. All the prophets never did. What makes you think you are right to mention? Just ask that question.
It is so sick to see how the people behave like mad when Allah alone is worth to mention. They see Allah alone is not enough. They need more. They need more entity to rival Allah. You put Muhammad’s name beside Allah’s name simply because you believe that Muhammad can intercede on your behalf. That is why the more you mention is name, the higher the chances for you to be interceded by Muhammad. Believing someone else would be able to intercede for you is already wrong. All intercession belongs to Allah. How could Muhammad intercede? Please use your logic.
Thank you Tun
Salam Tun
abdulazizomar says
“Majority of the Muslims today follow Hadith because they insist on saying that Quran is hard and difficult to understand.”
1. It is most difficult, if one tries to take in the entire Quran in a limited span of time, in a hurry to get “certificates”, in a hurry to please other men, in a hurry to show off, in a hurry to win competition or to win an election.
2. So it is much easier to just “copy” what the Prophet Muhammad did, and surely ( some muslims think ) this will guarantee heavenly life and hereafter. Alas, copying, under whatever circumstances, will fail us almost immediately in our test of life. The results are obvious for all to see.
3. Study the Quran. And study all of Nature. It’s time for something original.
Thank You Kindly Tun
Salam Tun,
jolly the baby said
“I would rather trust a carpenter than a trader.”
I trust neither. I put my trust in God. The rest i expect to pay cash. And of course today i am broke
Thank You Tun.
Hi Tun,
May I ask if anyone has investigated this (quoted from another source which can be traced via the link I mentioned earlier):
The Quran was given to him by that spirit who appeared to him at the cave of Hira. The Muslims say, that the spirit was Gabriel the angel. They say the angel Gabriel is the spirit who appeared to Mohammed at the cave of Hira , and he squeezed him tightly.
But listen, when you go the Bible, Gabriel appeared to many people. Gabriel appeared to Daniel, and Daniel was scared. And he said, “Do not be afraid, Daniel.” Then he appeared Zecharia, the father of John the Baptist. And he was afraid, and Gabriel said, “Do not be afraid, do not be afraid.” Then he appeared to Mary. And Mary was troubled, and Gabriel said, “Do not be afraid.” But that spirit who met Mohammed and squeezed him, left him very troubled. He was scared to death. And when he went back to his wife Khadigah, he said, “I am scared, I am scared! I am trembling?” She said, “What?” He said, “I don’t know, I don’t know. I am afraid that I am possessed.” Then she took him to a bishop in Mecca, by the name of Waraka Bin Nawfal, who was her cousin, and she told him about what happened. And this Waraka, the bishop of the Amunit cult in Mecca said to her, “Oh, be quiet. Be quiet. Mohammed will be the prophet of the Arabs.”
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So the Quran is not the invention of Mohammed. It was dictated to him by that spirit.
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To P2,
I indeed was referring to you.
The reason why I don’t use that name to refer to you is,
I not only love GOD, but also fear GOD.
GOD is also GOD the Father. Many of us says GOD is love, but they forgot about GOD the Father, who is just and righteous.
To have names which can be traced to other idol worshipping is, to me, no righteousness.
I disagree with your answer regarding traders.
Have you heard of this old saying: wU jian Bu shang (meaning, no traders not cunning), which is still widely said even now.
BTW, you have forgotten to comment on the other point which is more important, about the narrow gate which few will make it.
Thank you Tun.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Semoga Tun sudi mengizinkan ruang..Tun..posting pertama saya selalu typo error.Dahulu ada preview jadi saya boleh edit..Harap Tun sudi publishkan yang kedua ini..
[[MiddleAges]]
Your qoute
[[13. But then the principles are also as laid out in the Quran itself, which renders the Hadith irrelevant. Therefore it is by the authority of the Quran itself that renders the Hadith irrelevant. And the Quran is what the Prophet left for mankind, and is indeed a Miracle in itself. There are plenty more Miracles to be had in the Quran, if only mankind knew]]
I strongly believe that you are muslim.If you are,than this statement of your’s is not short of blasphemny by the long shot of it.
“Awalltuddin makrifatullah”..
This is basic Islamic education practiced all over the world.
Basic mainstream muslimin practice.
So..what we have here?..Argument and dispute of differences over belief of opinion and very self strong sustained opinion at that..
What do we do when we disagree over another muslimin thought,opinion and belief??..We go here..
“Wahai orang-orang yang beriman! Taatilah Allah dan taatilah Rasul (Muhammad SAW), dan Ulil Amri (pemegang kekuasaan-selagi tidak bercanggah dengan Al-Quran dan Sunnah) di antara kamu. Kemudian, jika kamu berbeza pendapat tentang sesuatu, maka kembalilah kepada Allah (Al-Quran) dan Rasul (Sunnahnya) , jika kamu beriman kepada Allah dan Hari Kemudian. Yang demikian itu, lebih utama (bagimu) dan lebih baik akibatnya.” (An-Nisa : 59).
Have we done that??No..so..It is utmost hypocrite on our part in claiming that we follows Al Quran and Islamic principal here and that but we thumbed our nose to the very basic Allah commandment…Have we no shame??
MidlleAges strongly believe in his own opinion forgetting this Al Quran verse..
“Maka bertanyalah kepada ahlinya jika kamu tidak mengetahui” (An-Nahl: 43)
Who is most expert about Islam then Rasullulah s.a.w??So..we asked him all about Islamic matters.But Rasullulah s.a.w does no longer physically available for us to ask any of our question.How?..
In this wordly matter that is how we manage our wordly affair’s..we depended on people before us to laid out the basic law,rules and regulation.In healthcare when mentioned about skin grafting,layman is barred and not permitted to attempt this kind of procedure for patients.Only certified specialist who have undergone strict training is allowed to pratices.
The principal of how to do it in Medical care is “documented” since Hypocrates.It was passed over generation after generation that finally reach us.The authentic of documentation have gone through rigorous scrutiny of medical brethren and fraternity.Should any procedure does not benefitting patient in whatever manner the WHO will see that this is not allowed and nullify.
By comparision..certain thousands of “self proclaimant muslimin” thought that hadith is not that authentic as much as wordly convention and establishment are..What a sham of shame!!
If you ask me me..I says that this conception of belief is highly delusional..Well.. everybody is entitle to his or her opinion but
I would definitely not comes to you for any medical procedures!!
Middleages..What is wrong with your opinion?It is very wrong because you only use your own aqli argument like Parameswara2.We all respect the aqli argument, a good one at that too but what happens to your naqli argument??
Don’t you have the ability to illustrate you naqli ability?
If you don’t have them then this verse is for you..
“Dan janganlah kamu mengikut apa yang kamu tidak ketahui; sesungguhnya pendengaran, penglihatan dan hati, semuanya akan ditanya apa yang dilakukan. ( Di pertanggungjawabkan )” (al-Isra:36)
Mr Middleages..Anti hadith that is the kafirian ( no such thing as abrahamic ) goes here and there to put up their wild goose chase of argument.My question is simple..
WHAT HAPPENED AT SIDRATUL MUNTAHA???
Maybe you could help them here..
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Semoga Tun sudi mengizinkan ruang..
[[MiddleAges]]
Your qoute
[[13. But then the principles are also as laid out in the Quran itself, which renders the Hadith irrelevant. Therefore it is by the authority of the Quran itself that renders the Hadith irrelevant. And the Quran is what the Prophet left for mankind, and is indeed a Miracle in itself. There are plenty more Miracles to be had in the Quran, if only mankind knew]]
I strongly believe that you are muslim.If you are,than this statement of your’s is not short of blasphemny by the long shot of it.
“Awalltuddin makrifatullah”..
This is basic Islamic education practiced all over the world.
Basic mainstream muslimin practice.
So..what we have here?..Argument and dispute of differences over belief of opinion and very self strong sustained opinion at that..
What do we do when we disagree over another muslimin thought,opinion and belief??..We go here..
“Wahai orang-orang yang beriman! Taatilah Allah dan taatilah Rasul (Muhammad SAW), dan Ulil Amri (pemegang kekuasaan-selagi tidak bercanggah dengan Al-Quran dan Sunnah) di antara kamu. Kemudian, jika kamu berbeza pendapat tentang sesuatu, maka kembalilah kepada Allah (Al-Quran) dan Rasul (Sunnahnya) , jika kamu beriman kepada Allah dan Hari Kemudian. Yang demikian itu, lebih utama (bagimu) dan lebih baik akibatnya.” (An-Nisa : 59).
Have we done that??No..so..It is utmost hypocrite on our part in claiming that we follows Al Quran and Islamic prinsipal here and that but we thumbed our nose to the very basic Allah commandment…Have we no shame??
MidlleAges strongly believe in his own opinion forgetting this Al Quran verse..
“Maka bertanyalah kepada ahlinya jika kamu tidak mengetahui” (An-Nahl: 43)
Who is most expert about Islam then Rasullulah s.a.w??So..we asked him all about Islamic matters.But Rasullulah s.a.w does no longer physically available for us to ask any of our question.How?..
In this wordly matter that is how we manage our wordly affair’s..we depended on people before us to laid out the basic law,rules and regulation.In healthcare when mentioned about skin grafting,layman is barred and not permitted to attempt this kind of procedure for patients.Only certified specialist who have undergone strict training is allowed to pratices.
The principal of how to do it in Medical care is “documented” since Hypocrates.It was passed over generation after generation that finally reach us.The authentic of documentation have gone through rigorous scrutiny of medical brethren and fraternity.Should any procedure does not benefitting patient in whatever manner the WHO will see that this is not allowed and nullify.
By comparision..certain thousands of “self proclaimant muslimin” thought that hadith is not that authentic as much as wordly convention and establishment are..What a sham of shame!!
If you ask me me..I says that this conception of belief is highly delusional..Well.. everybody is entitle to his or her opinion but
I would definitely comes to you for any medical procedures!!
Middleages..What is wrong with your opinion?It is ver wrong because you only use your own aqli argument like Parameswara2.We all respect the aqli argument, a good one at that too but what happens to your naqli argument??
Don’t you have the ability to illustrate you naqli ability?
If you don’t have them then this verse is for you..
“Dan janganlah kamu mengikut apa yang kamu tidak ketahui; sesungguhnya pendengaran, penglihatan dan hati, semuanya akan ditanya apa yang dilakukan. ( Di pertanggungjawabkan )” (al-Isra:36)
Mr Middleages..Anti hadith that is the kafirian ( no such thing as abrahamic ) goes here and there to put up their wild goose chase of argument.My question is simple..
???
Maybe you could help them here..
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..
Salam Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir Yg Di Rahmati ALLAH,
Akibat daripada menyalah tafsirkan sehingga Islam di permainkan:
1. Berteriak ‘Hudud’ tetapi tidak mampu berkata benar mengenai penzinaan.
2. Memohon maaf kepada orang bukan Islam yang mengkafirkan orang Islam
3. Bercakap ayat Quran berjela2, tetapi buta dan membutakan mata terhadap bukti kejayaan yang dinikmati.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to share my of the verses from the Quran.
All True Believers Accept the Quran
[28:51] We have delivered the message to them, that they may take heed.
[28:52] Those whom we blessed with the previous scriptures will believe in this.
[28:53] When it is recited to them, they will say, “We believe in it. This is the truth from our Lord. Even before we heard of it, we were submitters.”
The Torah and The Quran
[28:48] Now that the truth has come to them from us, they said, “If only we could be given what was given to Moses!” Did they not disbelieve in what was given to Moses in the past? They said, “Both (scriptures) are works of magic that copied one another.” They also said, “We are disbelievers in both of them.”
[28:49] Say, “Then produce a scripture from God with better guidance than the two, so I can follow it, if you are truthful.”
Important Commandments to All Believers
[62:9] O you who believe, when the Congregational Prayer (Salat Al-Jumu`ah) is announced on Friday, you shall hasten to the commemoration of God, and drop all business. This is better for you, if you only knew.
[62:10] Once the prayer is completed, you may spread through the land to seek God’s bounties, and continue to remember God frequently, that you may succeed.
[62:11] When some of them come across a business deal, or some entertainment, they rush to it and leave you standing! Say, “What God possesses is far better than the entertainment or the business. God is the best Provider.”
Above verses mentioned clearly that all people who believe, they must perform the Solat Jumaat. But in Malaysia we see only men are compulsory to attend it. Not for women. How could this be? Why women in Mecca attend the Solat Jumaat but not in Malaysia? And some parts of the world too? Why? Can you people explain? Does hadith say otherwise that you people follow over word of Allah? Please use your brain.
Men and women Endowed With Unique Qualities
[4:32] You shall not covet the qualities bestowed upon each other by God; the men enjoy certain qualities, and the women enjoy certain qualities. You may implore God to shower you with His grace. God is fully aware of all things.
How many people in Middle east region treat women like second class? Not just middle east, most of Muslim countries I must say. They do not allow them to drive, to go to mecca by themselves, can’t do this, can’t do that. They set all the rules just to make men better than women. More superior. How could this be? Where do they get the law from? Definitely not from the Quran.
Major Commandments
[4:36] You shall worship God alone – do not associate anything with Him. You shall regard the parents, the relatives, the orphans, the poor, the related neighbor, the unrelated neighbor, the close associate, the traveling alien, and your servants. God does not like the arrogant show-offs.
[4:37] The ones who are stingy, exhort the people to be stingy, and conceal what God has bestowed upon them from His bounties. We have prepared for the disbelievers a shameful retribution.
[4:38] They give money to charity only to show off, while disbelieving in God and the Last Day. If one’s companion is the devil, that is the worst companion.
[4:39] Why do they not believe in God and the Last Day, and give from God’s provisions to them? God is fully aware of them.
What Nullifies Ablution
[4:43] O you who believe, do not observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) while intoxicated, so that you know what you are saying. Nor after sexual orgasm without bathing, unless you are on the road, traveling; if you are ill or traveling, or you had urinary or fecal-related excretion (such as gas), or contacted the women (sexually), and you cannot find water, you shall observe Tayammum (dry ablution) by touching clean dry soil, then wiping your faces and hands therewith. God is Pardoner, Forgiver.
[4:44] Have you noted those who received a portion of the scripture, and how they choose to stray, and wish that you stray from the path?
[4:45] God knows best who your enemies are. God is the only Lord and Master. God is the only Supporter.
[4:46] Among those who are Jewish, some distort the words beyond the truth, and they say, “We hear, but we disobey,” and “Your words are falling on deaf ears,” and “Raa’ena* (be our shepherd),” as they twist their tongues to mock the religion. Had they said, “We hear, and we obey,” and “We hear you,” and “Unzurna (watch over us),” it would have been better for them, and more righteous. Instead, they have incurred condemnation from God due to their disbelief. Consequently, the majority of them cannot believe.
*4:46 The word “Raa’ena” was twisted by some Hebrew speaking people to sound like a dirty word. See 2:104.
[4:47] O you who received the scripture, you shall believe in what we reveal herein, confirming what you have, before we banish certain faces to exile, or condemn them as we condemned those who desecrated the Sabbath. God’s command is done.
Believers Or Hypocrites?
[4:60] Have you noted those who claim that they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you, then uphold the unjust laws of their idols? They were commanded to reject such laws. Indeed, it is the devil’s wish to lead them far astray.
[4:61] When they are told, “Come to what God has revealed, and to the messenger,” you see the hypocrites shunning you completely.
[4:62] How will it be when a disaster hits them, as a consequence of their own works? They will come to you then and swear by God: “Our intentions were good and righteous!”
[4:63] God is fully aware of their innermost intentions. You shall ignore them, enlighten them, and give them good advice that may save their souls.
Unquestioning Submission: Quality of the True Believers
[4:64] We did not send any messenger except to be obeyed in accordance with God’s will. Had they, when they wronged their souls, come to you and prayed to God for forgiveness, and the messenger prayed for their forgiveness, they would have found God Redeemer, Most Merciful.
[4:65] Never indeed, by your Lord; they are not believers unless they come to you to judge in their disputes, then find no hesitation in their hearts whatsoever in accepting your judgment. They must submit a total submission.
Proof of Divine Authorship
[4:82] Why do they not study the Quran carefully? If it were from other than God, they would have found in it numerous contradictions.*
*4:82 Although the Quran was revealed during the dark ages, you cannot find any nonsense in it; another proof of divine authorship.
Abraham: Original Messenger of Islam*
[4:125] Who is better guided in his religion than one who submits totally to God, leads a righteous life, according to the creed of Abraham: monotheism? God has chosen Abraham as a beloved friend.
[4:135] O you who believe, you shall be absolutely equitable, and observe God, when you serve as witnesses, even against yourselves, or your parents, or your relatives. Whether the accused is rich or poor, God takes care of both. Therefore, do not be biased by your personal wishes. If you deviate or disregard (this commandment), then God is fully Cognizant of everything you do.
Rukun Iman
[4:136] O you who believe, you shall believe in God and His messenger, and the scripture He has revealed through His messenger, and the scripture He has revealed before that. Anyone who refuses to believe in God, and His angels, and His scriptures, and His messengers, and the Last Day, has indeed strayed far astray.
[4:137] Surely, those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe, then disbelieve, then plunge deeper into disbelief, God will not forgive them, nor will He guide them in any way.
[4:138] Inform the hypocrites that they have incurred painful retribution.
[4:139] They are the ones who ally themselves with disbelievers instead of believers. Are they seeking dignity with them? All dignity belongs with God alone.
Mocking God’s Revelation
[4:140] He has instructed you in the scripture that: if you hear God’s revelations being mocked and ridiculed, you shall not sit with them, unless they delve into another subject. Otherwise, you will be as guilty as they are. God will gather the hypocrites and the disbelievers together in Hell.
Do Not Use Bad Language
[4:148] God does not like the utterance of bad language, unless one is treated with gross injustice. God is Hearer, Knower.
[4:149] If you work righteousness – either declared or concealed – or pardon a transgression, God is Pardoner, Omnipotent.
You Shall Not Make Any Distinction Among God’s Messengers
[4:150] Those who disbelieve in God and His messengers, and seek to make distinction among God and His messengers, and say, “We believe in some and reject some,” and wish to follow a path in between;
[4:151] these are the real disbelievers. We have prepared for the disbelievers a shameful retribution.
[4:152] As for those who believe in God and His messengers, and make no distinction among them, He will grant them their recompense. God is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
By putting Muhammad’s name in your shahadah, you are making distinction among the messengers.
Lessons From Israel
[4:153] The people of the scripture challenge you to bring down to them a book from the sky! They have asked Moses for more than that, saying, “Show us God, physically.” Consequently, the lightning struck them, as a consequence of their audacity. Additionally, they worshiped the calf, after all the miracles they had seen. Yet, we pardoned all this. We supported Moses with profound miracles.
[4:154] And we raised Mount Sinai above them, as we took their covenant. And we said to them, “Enter the gate humbly.” And we said to them, “Do not desecrate the Sabbath.” Indeed, we took from them a solemn covenant.
[4:155] (They incurred condemnation) for violating their covenant, rejecting God’s revelations, killing the prophets unjustly, and for saying, “Our minds are made up!” In fact, God is the One who sealed their minds, due to their disbelief, and this is why they fail to believe, except rarely.
[4:156] (They are condemned) for disbelieving and uttering about Mary a gross lie.
Crucifying “the Body” of Jesus*
[4:157] And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him – they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him.*
*4:157-158 Jesus, the real person, the soul, was raised in the same manner as in the death of any righteous person. Subsequently, his enemies arrested, tortured, and crucified his living, but empty, body.
[4:158] Instead, God raised him to Him; God is Almighty, Most Wise.
[4:159] Everyone among the people of the scripture was required to believe in him before his death. On the Day of Resurrection, he will be a witness against them.
[4:160] Due to their transgressions, we prohibited for the Jews good foods that used to be lawful for them; also for consistently repelling from the path of God.
[4:161] And for practicing usury, which was forbidden, and for consuming the people’s money illicitly. We have prepared for the disbelievers among them painful retribution.
[4:162] As for those among them who are well founded in knowledge, and the believers, they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you. They are observers of the Contact Prayers (Salat), and givers of the obligatory charity (Zakat); they are believers in God and the Last Day. We grant these a great recompense.
In 4:162 we see God stated clearly that they are observers of the Contact Prayers and givers of the obligatory charity. But God was telling the story of the previous Prophet and not Muhammad. It means that Salat and Zakat were done by people before Muhammad. Can’t you understand that?
God’s Messengers
[4:163] We have inspired you, as we inspired Noah and the prophets after him. And we inspired Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, the Patriarchs, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon. And we gave David the Psalms.
[4:164] Messengers we have told you about, and messengers we never told you about. And God spoke to Moses directly.
[4:165] Messengers to deliver good news, as well as warnings. Thus, the people will have no excuse when they face God, after all these messengers have come to them. God is Almighty, Most Wise.
[4:166] But God bears witness concerning what He has revealed to you; He has revealed it with His knowledge. And the angels bear witness as well, but God suffices as witness.
[4:167] Surely, those who disbelieve and repel from the way of God have strayed far astray.
[4:168] Those who disbelieve and transgress, God will not forgive them, nor will He guide them in any way;
[4:169] except the way to Hell, wherein they abide forever. This is easy for God to do.
[4:170] O people, the messenger has come to you with the truth from your Lord. Therefore, you shall believe for your own good. If you disbelieve, then to God belongs everything in the heavens and the earth. God is Omniscient, Most Wise.
In 4:169, God stated clearly that the disbelievers abide in Hell forever. But most people believe that Muslim all around the world will taste Hell for a while before they are intercede by Prophet Muhammad to enter Heaven eventually. Where do get it from? All intercessions belongs to God.
Trinity: A False Doctrine
[4:171] O people of the scripture, do not transgress the limits of your religion, and do not say about God except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was a messenger of God, and His word that He had sent to Mary, and a revelation from Him. Therefore, you shall believe in God and His messengers. You shall not say, “Trinity.” You shall refrain from this for your own good. God is only one God. Be He glorified; He is much too glorious to have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. God suffices as Lord and Master.
[4:172] The Messiah would never disdain from being a servant of God, nor would the closest angels. Those who disdain from worshiping Him, and are too arrogant to submit, He will summon them all before Him.
[4:173] As for those who believe and lead a righteous life, He will fully recompense them, and shower them with His grace. As for those who disdain and turn arrogant, He will commit them to painful retribution. They will find no lord beside God, nor a savior.
Thank you Tun
Thank you Tun
Salam Tun,
A point to consider.
Personal religion must be separate from the state, but lets not forget the state has its own religion and need to protect itself from the religion of its own people, so that the state can maintain peace when there is a religious conflict.
I wonder how AbdulAzizOmar will handle this point ? Where will he position Islam in the entire scheme of a nation ?
Thank you kindly Tun.
Dear Tun,
I would like to ask Amin Tan to read Quran properly and try to take heed from it. Slowly InsyAllah you will be able to understand it. You need to put away all the nonsense of Hadith aside for now and read from cover to cover. That would be helpful.
The purpose of this blog/debate is for us to go back to original teaching of Islam base on the Quran alone. Just like how all the prophets did before. All the prophets follow only God’s scripture. They never follow anything else. Am I right? If they(Rasul/Nabi) are messengers of Allah, they would not utter anything else other than what was told by Allah.
To JB From,
Majority of the Muslims today follow Hadith because they insist on saying that Quran is hard and difficult to understand. As long as you have that set of mind fixed in your head, then you will never find the truth from the Quran. You will continue to believe in words of men over words of Allah.
Some of you argue that God is not the same as Allah. It is the same. You are just being either stupid or ignorant of the language. Allah means God in Arabic language. For English, Allah is God. If you take another language for mandarin, spanish, french, italian, they call something else. But they also refer to God. It does not matter because Allah knows your innermost thoughts. You have so much rules about you that you think Allah is only for Muslims. I cannot agree with that.
I have given you so much proofs form the verses of Quran for to refer to. If you are not happy with the translation then find one that suitable to your understanding. But never bring in Hadith to explain or abrogate the word of Allah just to please your ego. That is all I am asking here. Study the Quran. Please…
Thank you Tun
Salam Tun,
A quick response to parameswara 2
@parameswara 2
1-Dear Midddle ages,what I meant by not making good sense to me is…………………….You get me?
I got you, yes. Sorry. Please do go on.
Thank you kindly Tun.
Salam Tun,
Please allow me space.
@abdulazizomar
Peace.
1. As pointed out by parameswara 2, if you do not yourself submit, then all you suceed in doing is establishing the “cult of Abraham”.
2. I protest to the formation of a cult of Abraham ( for now ), for Abraham himself led his people to Allah. ( via the stone of Kaabah ). You do injustice to my Prophet should you not follow the path of the righteous people before you. Allah is with those who are on the right path, so have no fear, go in the name of Peace.
3. You have my support if you walk in peace, although I am of no significance at all, for i am merely just one vote.
Thank you kindly Tun.
Salam Tun,
There is no compulsion in RELIGION is a sacred law.
There is no “buts” to a sacred law.
Life, is also sacred.
Peace is also sacred. And it is because of peace that there shall be no compulsion in religion.
Obeying this commandment provides much more than peace, it allows the love of mankind to prevail and grow.
Thank You Kindly Tun.
Peace!
Whether we like it or not… Whether it’s a sensitive issue or not… We all have to face the fact that the Malaysian Christians are preaching Christianity to Malaysian Sunnis. As such, we all have to face the fact that there are Malaysian Sunnis whom had denounced their Sunni religion and converted to Christianity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=cETBbKOwYaQ&feature=related
These people who had converted and become Christians, they did it due to reasons which are valid to them. Nobody change their religion for fun.
From accepting Muhammad as GOD’s partner, they now believe in Trinity (Single entity but in three different forms – GOD in a form of god, GOD in a form of spirit, GOD in a form of human).
Human factors has been injected into monotheism. Instead of worshipping GOD alone, people worship GOD along with Muhammad, Jesus, Mary, Buddha, the saints, the ‘wali’, the scholars etc by accepting these human as GOD’s partner. People believed that these humans have the ability to intercede on behalf of GOD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc2D-gNjShw
Let us reject any form of partnership with GOD and worship GOD alone.
Regards and GOD bless.
Salam Tun,
I need to ‘speak’ to brother abdulazizomar & co, and do my best to try and ‘save’ him from ‘hell’.
@abdulazizomar
1. My position is that i bear witness to the miracle of the Quran, in my own way. But i cannot bear witness that Prophet Muhamad ( peace be upon him ) is the messenger of Allah, for the simple reason that i was not there, hence i am no witness to that event. I accept Prophet Muhamad ( peace be upon him ) as the messenger who brought the Quran, because it says so in the Quran.
2. My position with regards to Hadith is that for one who needs to learn more of Prophet Muhamad ( peace be upon him ), the Hadith provides the best insight into his life. And in them Hadith also is the demonstration of how Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him ) dispensed Islam. So I agree it is not strictly a requirement for Islam, but wether or not the Hadith is detrimental to monotheistic belief, i cannot say, and is not for me to say. Faith is a matter for Allah to determine. As far as religion goes, if the person is good, then his religion must be good, Hadith or no Hadith.
3. I can understand why people resort to Hadith. If you are given a book on mathematics say, and told you will be asked to sit for a test, it would be extremely difficult to know just what will be asked. And so a set of examples of questions and answers ( equivalent of hadith ) would provide you with comfortable confidence in being able to sit for the maths test. The Hadith serves the purpose of providing the situational responses of Prophet Muhamad ( peace be upon him ) during his lifetime, and serves as guidance too.
4. I also subscribe to that it is all in the context of 10th century Middle East, and that we need to adapt to the challenges of a 21st century global village. And it would be extremely difficult if people insists on holding on to the Hadith and downgrade, or even discard the Quran altogether as mere collection of mantras.
5. The 19 phenomena to me, is not a miracle, it is a demostration of the elegance of the Quran. And yes, i followed Rashad Khalifa’s arguments and points a long long time ago. I could not verify for myself this so called miracle, but take it as good news nevertheless, that someone somewhere has found a beautiful mathematical pattern in the Quran. Muslim scholars all over the world thinks Rashad Khalifa has gone mad, and though i reserved my judgement at the time, looking at his disciples today i am beginning to think the scholars were right after all.
6. It’s one thing to beg us to believe in the Quran as you do, it is quite another thing trying to shove the Quran down our throats. It has become the “cult of 19″.
7. You seem to have broken the principles of the very Quran you are trying to bring, how then do you expect people to believe in you or what you say ?
8. I would suggest you take up the offer or challenge by Parameswara2. Organize your goodselves and serve the muslim society in Malaysia towards peace and progress. If you devote yourself to good works and charity, you can get a rather large following i think, and we will certainly benefit from what you bring.
9. Of course, it should be done in a clean and open manner, you will first need to get the permission of the government , whether state or national government, and you need to convince them first. All that energy pent up in you will go to waste if they put you in prison, for disturbing the peace. Please consider our advise. You have my conditional support.
10. As you have perhaps offended some people here, i think now it is a little difficult to get their support. I however feel Parameswara2 may perhaps still give you the benefit of the doubt, if you promise to repent your ways. You cannot install a religion using insults.
11. Parameswara2 is right, quote “until Kingdom comes the rate of conversion to anti Hadism will be too slow to impact the Muslims to become a successful people again”. If i were you, i would jump at this opportunity offered by Parameswara2. It is not often one gets such oppportunity. If you truly want to do good, do it.
@Parameswara2
Parameswara2 said
“I agree that scientific matters are not in the Hadis it is because it is more about the sayings/accounts of our prophet who happen to know more about commerce than science.That does not make the Hadis irrelevant.”
12. There is science in the Hadith. It is called social science. There is also behavorial science. They are all human science. But they apply to the society at that time. The principles are relevant to this day.
13. But then the principles are also as laid out in the Quran itself, which renders the Hadith irrelevant. Therefore it is by the authority of the Quran itself that renders the Hadith irrelevant. And the Quran is what the Prophet left for mankind, and is indeed a Miracle in itself. There are plenty more Miracles to be had in the Quran, if only mankind knew.
14. I am just explaning the logic, i do not expect you to accept or understand them. But if you do, i am happy indeed, and i thank Allah that He has guided us.
God Bless.
Thank you kindly Tun.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh.
Tun..kalau kita lihat di dalam Al quran kita akan dapati ayat ini..
“Itulah Sunnatullah..Kamu tidak akan mendapati perubahan pada sunnatullah itu”..
Dan apakah yang di maksudkan dengan sunnatullah ini?..Macam Tun juga..idea dan cara untuk mengubah pandangan masyarakat di masa itu biasanya akan menghadapi tentangan yang hebat..
Jadi..jalan apakah yang di ambil oleh Para Rasul..?
Dakwah..dan jika kita lihat dalam Surah Al Buruj..kita akan dapati nasib orang yang berdakwah dan mengamalkan ajaran Islam adalah di bakar di dalam parit..Jadi bagaimana pendekatan yang di ambil oleh orang-orang yang berdakwah dari sejak zaman dahulu kala..Melarikan diri bila berjumpa dengan halangan?..
ATAU BERANI BERSEMUKA DENGAN PIHAK BERKUASA SEMASA DAN MENERIMA AKIBATNYA?
Begitulah Tun..
Sejak dahulu sehingga sekarang pelbagai kumpulan dan puak-puak telah muncul mendakwa diri mereka lebih Islam dari orang Islam yang lain.Bila di ajak bersemuka mereka kecut..Kerana apa Tun?…Takut mati..Rasullulah s.a.w sendiri iaitu Penghulu saya menemplak golongan ini..
Kami pergi mengadu kepada Rasulullah saw. yang ketika itu sedang tidur berbantalkan kain burdahnya di bawah naungan Ka’bah. Permohonan kami kepadanya.· “Wahai Rasulullah, tidakkah anda hendak memohonkan kepada Allah pertolongan bagi hami…?” Rasulullah saw pun duduk, mukanya jadi merah, lalu sabdanya: “Dulu sebelum kalian, ada seorang laki-laki yang disiksa, tubuhnya dikubur kecuali leher ke atas, lalu diambil sebuah gergaji untuk menggergaji kepalanya, tetapi siksaan demikian itu tidak sedikit pun dapal memalingkannya dari Agamanya … ! Ada pula yang disikat antara daging dan tulang-tulangnya dengan sikat besi, juga tidak dapat menggoyahkan keimanannya …. Sungguh Allah akan menyempurnakan hal tersebut, hingga setiap pengembara yang bepergian dari Shan’a ke Hadlramaut, tiada takut kecuali oleh Allah ‘Azza wa Jalla, walaupun serigala ada di antara hewan gembalaannya, tetapi kalian terburu-buru……!!”
Khabbab dengan kawan-kawannya mendengarkan kata-kata itu, bertambahlah keimanan dan.keteguhan hati mereka,dan masing-masing mereka berikrar akan membuktikan kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya hal yang diharapkan dari mereka, ialah ketabahan, keshabaran dan pengurbanan.
[[So how could we want to inform and dakwah other people when the law said otherwise. JAIS and everyone who representing religious department are all corrupt in Malaysia. They follow their own law. They do not follow the correct teaching/law of Islam. They have been making mistake after mistake all this while. They can’t even help poor people who needs money/zakat to prepare for Ramadhan. When others do help, they become angry and jealous. These are leaders that you want to follow?]]
Sungguh memalukan!!..Allah dan RasulNya menghina golongan ini dan mereka tanpa segan silu menuduh golongan muslimin yang lain…??
Ish..Ish..begitulah Tun..
Tun..golongan ini menjadi semakin kuat,angkuh dan sombong kerana Tun terlibat sama “memberi mereka nyawa”..
Harap harap Tun sudi memikirkannya…:(
Terima kasih Tun..
Dear Tun,
Parameswara, who started calling people names? Who started mocking others in this blog? Please read again the earlier post. I have been asking you to use good words and never mock other. But you, wajaperak, sudin and others still mock me. God will deal with you for that.
If you want to follow Rasullulah then follow Quran. Not by following hadith. But you insist on that. You can’t threaten me or anyone here. Its a freedom of speech. If you are not happy, so be it. It is your life to live, and my life to live. We have got nothing to do with each other. People like you are the one that has been exposed of your hypocrisy due to your objection of believing Al Quran alone but must need hadith. I called you disbelievers simply because you do not believe in Quran alone.
Then you can me disbelievers just because I believe in Quran alone? hahahaha….I cant believe this. So right now, it is for sure you people are corrupt and sick in your head because you do not follow word of Allah but follow word of men. You continue with your man made religion, but I will stick with Allah’s religion.
I thank you so much Tun for posting all my earlier comment all this while. I hope one day people will embrace Islam and practice it according to the teaching of Quran alone. People like them are wicked and arrogant. They mock Allah’s revelation simply because they are obsessed with human entity. But they deny that. I have shown you many verses in the Quran for you to refer, but you say the verses I posted are not right. Then I ask you to read it yourself, then you did not answer me back. You insist on your way of believing hadith and putting hadith above Quran. You can never guide a blind man who do not see. You can never guide a deaf man who do not hear. I am so sorry for you and your sick head.
I pray that Allah will guide you and make you among His righteous servant who follow Quran alone as the law.
If you do not want to believe, it is okay. It is not the end of the world. Other people are still interested in Islam, the real Islam. Not your backwards Islam who only preach men’s word. People all over the world are starting to realize that Islam has been distorted in most aspects. But you are still blind and follow the traditional practice. So sad…..
Thank you Tun.
Salaam Tun
I do not believe that this discussion is getting dirtier by the day as Amin Tan suggest. First we should not be upset when someone is different from you! This is exactly the problems with the ‘Muslims’ of today, they cannot see any dissents. Through history we find out that one of the reasons for the demise of the Ummah is that they stopped asking questions. The Muslims in the world today stopped using their reasoning capacity after the introductions of the so-called sayings of the Prophet some one thousand years ago (Hadiths). As we all know that the sayings (hadiths) attributed to our Prophet were written down by the scholars, who were mostly of Persian race, like Bukhari and the rest, some more than two hundred years after the death of Prophet Muhammad. And these sayings were narrated through mouth to mouth by some people who were supposed to have heard something or see something that the Prophet did some more than two hundred years ago!! And for any student of Hadiths know that originally there were more than one million of them were written down!! From the original there are only less than five percent of the Hadiths are ‘accepted’ by all the madzabs in todays Islam, the four madzabs, Wahabi and Shias, and they totaled not more than fifty thousand of them. These Hadiths were so ridiculous that the ancient ulamas including Bukhari himself eliminated more than 95% of them and cast them away. Even in the present fifty thousand or so Hadiths that are in circulation today, we can still find contradictions and silly things attributed to our Prophet.
Coming to the original topic for discussion in this forum, I would like to go back to the reason for the decline of the Muslims in the world today. After the death of Prophet Muhammad the Muslims were full of vigor in their preaching of Islam with only the Quran as their source of law. But after the adoption of Hadiths as ‘another’ source of law, then Islam start their decline and non-stopped until today. We see today that the Muslims are deprived of all things you think of in their daily lives. Any ummat will never progress if they follow a ‘wrong’ or ‘bad’ law. We have deserted the Quran and instead opted for Hadiths as our guiding light, and thus fall into the trap of Satan. The Devil is very happy to see the followers of Muhammad are in this state. Muhammad himself complained to God on the Day of Judgement by saying ‘O Allah, my people have deserted the Quran’ 25:30. We have cast the Words of God that was brought through the holy lips of His messenger (Muhammad) and take the words of men to be our guiding light.
Actually the idea of Hadith and /Sunnah were first introduced by the Jewish people before people like Bukhari started writing them, and they are called Misnah and Gammarah. Even though not all Hadiths are bad and some are useful, they still post great danger to the religion of Islam but taking us off course and thus in the long journey in our history we found ourselves thousand of miles away from the original track!!
I would blame most if not all of our problems to the fact that we have adopted a ‘bad law’ or rather a wrong way by deserting the Quran.
One might easily say that we never did!! But you can find hundreds of contradictions from that of the Quran from Hadiths.
A simple thing you can see among the Arabs nations. Why is that the Muslims are far behind the Christians and the Jews in the matter of knowledge and commerce, arts and the sciences, when it was the Muslims who first were the pioneer in the field of arts and sciences and helped to bring about the Renaissance in Europe.
We are trapped with “NOS” and “HARAMS” found in the Hadith books which contradicts the verses of the Quran. ‘These are ayats (verses) of Allah that We recite to you (Muhammad) with truth.Then in which hadiths besides Allah and His ayats will they believe? Woe to every fabricator, liar’ 45:6-7.
Thank you Tun
Dearest Tun
//jolly the baby
August 15, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Permalink
Hi To P2:
1. Though at times your viewpoints match mine, but I totally disagree with your frequent viewpoint that traders are a kind of trusted persons. I would rather trust a carpenter than a trader.//
jolly baby you are talking to me right?
1-You are right I too would rather trust a carpenter than a trader in today’s environment.To maximize profit they have to do a geat sales job that normally would be a ‘greatly’ exaggerating the things you are trading.All that matters is you sell as much as you can.Duit haram?who give a damn.Will you give away this hard earned cash you earned to the needy?No way!The needy only need to work their own way to find their own cash.After all the main objective of your trading is to make as much money as you can for yourself.The poor can take for themselves.If they can’t that’s not our problem.Right jolly baby?
2-But you better believe it Jolly there was once a different model of traders.A group of traders who dared brave The Indian ocean, The Straits of Malacca or the tough,bandit infested Gobi desert of Central Asia to exchange merchandise made tons of money but believed in the responsibility of giving back to the community as a sadakah and other form of generosity,apart from the compulsory contribution of zakat to their emirs.They were the God fearing Global Muslim traders,in the footsteps of their trader prophet doing charity and dakwah at the same time.Money,Jolly talks.The generosity of the Muslim traders and their generally good God fearing behavior was what that converted the once staunch Hindu Kingdoms of Malacca,Majapahit,the Buddhist kingdoms along the Silk route and elsewhere to Islam.
3-This is the basis of the Islamic Economics system where the objective of the individual is only to seek God’s blessings vis a vis the maximizing of individual satisfaction of the other prevailing system then.This is the missing link of Islam today and why the religion have not spread anymore.We have lost that economic model with the collapse of the Islamic caliphate sytem that supported it.
4-When it reappears Jolly baby,you will understand.
Thanks Tun
TO AbdulAzizOmar,
All what you had written here is considered “MISGUIDED” interpretation of Islam by the Department of Islamic Affairs of our country.
Similar judgement have been made to Kassim Ahmad long time ago proposing something similar to what you are proposing in terms of interpretation of Islam.
There is no Islamic country in this planet endorsed the anti-hadith in Islam you had made.
There is no compulsion in Islam, you are free to choose to go to Heaven or Hell but do not transmit “Misguided teaching” of Islam that are in contradiction of the Religious body of the land and the planet as this is irresponsible and immoral.
Salam YAB & diKasihi Tun,
Saya ingin minta tolong Tun dan juga pengurusan blog Chedet untuk TIDAK LAGI MENYIARKAN KOMEN DARI BLOGGER abdulazizomar yang nampak gayanya menggunakan blog Chedet untuk menyebar AJARAN SESAT beliau. Beliau mendapat RUANG IKLAN PERCUMA dari blog Chedet, tanpa apa-apa bayaran.
Dibimbangi ada pula pembaca yang terpengaruh dengan ajaran sesat ini. Kita sedia maklum yang syaitan akan cuba sedaya-upaya untuk membantu beliau untuk menyesatkan umat Islam.
Lagipun dari cara penulisan beliau, kita tidak tahu samada beliau benar-benar beragama Islam dan hanya menyembah ALLAH SWT. Ramai juga orang bukan Islam yang mengkaji Al-Quran.
Terima kasih Tun.
*** Semoga Allah SWT melindungi Tun sekeluarga. ***
Peace!
There is no point in giving suggestion to Tun on what he (Tun) should do regarding Submission/Submitters. There is no point also suggesting to Tun to lodge a police report as you yourself may lodge the report. To trace us is too easy as we are subscribers of TM, Jaring, Celcom, Digi, Maxis etc. ISP.
However, I am willing to meet up with those who are unhappy with us only if you are able to provide comprehensive and detail hadith(s) on how to observe the Subuh, Zohor, Asar, Maghrib, Isya’ and Jumaat contact prayer (salat) from the 1st takbir until the ‘salam’ (for both male and female).
Regards and GOD bless.
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Salam kasih sayang kepada sahabat2 kami yang bersyahadat 2 kalimah,
yang mengagungkan Perintah Yang Maha Esa Allah Subhanahuwataala dan yang memuliakan Suruhan Nabi Muhammad Pesuruh Allah berpandukan Firman Allah dan Hadith Rasul…
Tidak perlu risau dan marah kepada gulungan manusia yang berkalimah 1 dan mendakwa diri mereka dijalan yang ‘benar’ hanya dengan membaca dan menghafal ayat2 AlQuran ( pengertian nya yang tersurat) dan berhujah tentang kod 19.. belum sampai sebulu rama lagi Ilmu mereka.
Ini cerita kod 19 kami juga tahu ( tapi tidak kenal) pada tahun 70′an dan banyak lagi ILMU yang tiada sempadan terkandung dalam kitab suci AlQuran, yang tiada pangkal dan hujungnya didunia fana’ ini… hanya bermula dan berakhir diSyurga… tiada seorang pun manusia mampu mengenal segala Ilmu Allah
Persoalan nya,
Mengapa dari mulanya artikel Ayahanda Tun tersiar hinggalah terkini, gulungan yang mengaku diri mereka ‘Islam’ tanpa 2 kalimah itu berat hati sangat untuk menyebut ‘ALLAH’ atau lebih afdal ‘ALLAH SUBHANAHUWATAALA’ tetapi kerap menyebut ‘GOD’ dalam terjemahan Ayat2 suci AlQuran yang mereka nyatakan?
Walhal mereka sendiri telah menyatakan ‘ There’s no God except ALLAH!’…
Mereka telah mencerminkan diri mereka dan kita dapat pandang dan lihat ‘cermin’ yang kabur dan mengejek kepada diri mereka sendiri…
Bak kata perpatah,
‘ si luncai terjun dengan labu-labu nya, biarkan, biarkan’
ALFATIHAH, AMIN
Ps. Orang Islam yang HIDUP dengan 2 kalimah tidak akan terpesong akidah mereka, ibarat ikan yang HIDUP didalam air laut yang masin..
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Salam kasih sayang Sahabat2 kami yang bersyahadat 2 kalimah,
yang mengagungkan Kebesaran Yang Maha Esa Allah Subhanahuwataala dan yang Memuliakan amalan Nabi Muhammad Pesuruh Allah berpandukan Firman Allah dan Hadith Rasul…
Tidak perlu risau dan marah kepada gulungan manusia yang berkalimah 1 dan mendakwa diri mereka dijalan yang ‘benar’ hanya dengan membaca dan menghafal ayat2 AlQuran dan berhujah tentang kod 19.. ini cerita kami tahun 70′an dan banyak lagi ILMU yang tiada sempadan terkandung dalam kitab suci AlQuran, yang tiada pangkal dan hujungnya didunia fana’ ini… hanya bermula dan berakhir diSyurga… Amin
Persoalan nya,
Mengapa dari mulanya artikel Ayahanda Tun tersiar hinggalah terkini, gulungan yang mengaku diri mereka ‘Islam’ tanpa 2 kalimah itu sangat berat hati untuk menyebut ‘ALLAH’ atau lebih afdal ‘ALLAH SUBHANAHUWATAALA’ tetapi kerap menyebut ‘GOD’ dalam terjemahan Ayat2 suci AlQuran?
Walhal mereka sendiri telah menyatakan ‘ There’s no God except ALLAH!’…
Mereka telah mencerminkan diri mereka dan kita dapat pandang dan lihat ‘cermin’ yang kabur dan mengejek kepada diri mereka sendiri…
Bak kata perpatah,
‘ si luncai terjun dengan labu-labu nya, biarkan, biarkan’
ALFATIHAH, AMIN
Ps. Orang Islam yang HIDUP dengan 2 kalimah tidak akan terpesong akidah mereka, ibarat ikan yang HIDUP didalam air laut yang masin..
Assalamu’alaikum Tun,
Blog Tun sudah menjadi semacam platfom percuma untuk penyebaran fahaman anti-Islam,anti-Melayu dan yg terbaru anti-Hadis.tak boleh kah kita kekalkan nya untuk anti-Pendatang sahaja?
demokrasi ke ni? kebebasan bersuara yg melampau-lampau hanya menyemarakkan kebencian.orang bodoh,orang dungu,,orang tak berilmu malah orang bisu pun turut mahu menyumbang suara.Hadis Nabi s.a.w di remehkan.Rashad Khalifa pula di lantik Nabi.dan blog Tun dijadikan dewan penobatan nya.
Tun,hentikan lah penyiaran komen-komen anti-hadis,anti-Islam atau anti-Melayu diblog Tun ini.atau tapis lah(sertu) kata-kata kotor yg keluar dari mulut-mulut yg bernajis.mereka ini bukan mencari Kebenaran melainkan hanya melancarkan provokasi saja.
Rashad Khalifa sebagai Nabi? Isa ibni Maryam sebagai Tuhan? ini adalah sama karut nya dgn Lee kuan yew sebagai perdana menteri dan SR Nathan sebagai presiden.kedua-dua nya hanyalah pekerja-pekerja asing yg kita beri kerakyatan.betul kah keadaan ini? Betulkan Keadaan Ini!
saya pun sebenar nya kagum juga pada teori mathematic kod 19 yg diketengahkan oleh ‘nabi’ baru ini.teori nya benar.tapi disebalik teori yg benar itu,tersimpul niat jahat nya memesongkan kita dari ajaran Al Quran.dia hendak jadi nabi rupa nya.
secara halus dia mengikut jejak Iblis memperkenalkan kpd Adam khasiat buah khuldi dgn tujuan agar Adam memakan nya lalu tersingkir dari Syurga.sebab itu dipetik nya ayat-ayat Al Quran lalu ditafsir sesuka hati nya demi menegakkan pendirian nya mengurangi kredibiliti Rasulullah s.a.w.dgn begitu dia sangka dapat menyesatkan Ummat dan menghapuskan Islam dari pangkal nya.
Tun,undang-undang Negara yg melindungi Islam tidak dilaksanakan di blog Tun.atas nama demokrasi,cempedak luar pagar,kail panjang sejengkal seperti azizomar,hidden secret dan ala-kassim dapat bebas mengkecam amalan dan tafsiran Al Quran kita.kalau tiada saudara-saudara kita seperti wajaperak,amin tan,sudin dan parameswara2 yg tidak putus-putus mendebat,pastilah ajaran sesat ini mendapat iklan percuma dan pasaran yg besar dikalangan umat Islam yg belum mendalami pengertian Islam nya.
strategi anti-hadis mencampur-aduk kebenaran dan kebatilan harus kita akui sebagai sangat berkesan untuk mengelirukan Ummat.Ayat Al Quran dipermainkan dgn sungguh ‘tactful’.terjemahan Inggeris nya ada masa nya jauh bertentangan dgn maksud asal dalam bahasa Arab.tapi monyet-monyet ini sama ada tak peduli atau tak tahu,lalu dgn ilmu yg tak seberapa,tetap ingkar mengetengahkan nya.
Allah Maha Kaya.kemunculan kaum anti-hadis ini membawa Rahmat yg besar bagi diri saya.kalau dulu pulang dari kerja,hanya rehat-rehat saja,menonton tv kemudian,selepas Isyak terus tidur.maklum lah dah agak berumur.tapi Alhamdulillah,sekarang saya mula banyak membaca,mencari bahan dan mendekati Ilmu secara CSI dgn niat mencari Jalan yg Lurus.
kita yakin kita berada dilaluan yg Benar.namun kita diajar oleh Rasulullah s.a.w untuk bersikap tawaduk,tunduk merendah diri memohon sekurang-kurang nya 17 kali sehari minta Ihdinash-shiratal mustaqim…”ia-itu jalan orang-orang yg Engkau beri Nikmat.bukan jalan-jalan orang yg Engkau Murkai dan bukan pula jalan orang-orang yg sesat.”
siapakah Orang yg di beri Nikmat? saya menyarankan kaum anti-hadis melakukan CSI mengenai nya sebagaimana anda bertungkus-lumus mengenai fahaman anti-hadis anda.ini adalah kunci kpd seluruh kefahaman mengenai Islam dan Al Quran. maksud saya Kunci kod 19 yg anda perjuangkan ada pada 19 huruf rumi ini
“ORANG YG DI BERI NIKMAT”
kira lah 19 huruf nya dan selidik lah ia dgn saksama.gunakan lah otak anda yg tidak seberapa itu.sekira nya anda jujur,Insya-Allah,pintu karat dihati anda akan terbuka untuk menerima kod 19 saya “Orang Yg Di Beri Nikmat”,(bahasa arab nya plural,tapi untuk sedap-bercakap dan senang-kira,saya sebut ‘Orang’ saja).anda akan jumpa jawapan nya tentang “orang-orang yg diberi nikmat” didalam Al Quran.
ini lah Orang dan orang-orang nya yg manusia tidak akan berhenti bercakap tentang mereka.Dia dan anak-keturunan nya di sucikan,berserta para leluhur nya sebelum Dia,ini lah orang nya yg mata anda begitu buta dalam menuruti jejak-langkah nya.Anda mengaku berpegang pada Al Quran tapi anda begitu berkeras menafikan Sunnah nya.dan anda beriya-iya benar mengaku Muslim.
hanya kerana beberapa gelintir penyebar hadis palsu,anda jadikan alasan menolak Sunnah Rasul.Muslim jenis apakah anda ini? bunga di petik,perdu di berakkan? atau begitu pemalas kah anda dalam meneliti Hadis lalu menolak semua nya sekali dgn beralasankan ALASAN? kerdil sungguh jiwa anda.
daripada anda menimbulkan kesesatan dikalangan umat Islam dgn memakai nama Agama Islam sendiri,sebaik nya anda kaum anti-hadis join saja John Travolta dalam Sciencetology.dgn kepakaran anda mempermainkan Ayat Al Quran sepotong-sepotong,anda pasti boleh meyakinkan John untuk buka gereja Sciencetology pertama luar Amerika.saya pasti d.tan dan jolly akan berebut untuk dapatkan hak franchise nya…mereka kaum opportunist yg tak pernah kenyang.pantang nampak peluang.
dan apalagi peluang buat duit yg lebih menarik selain ajaran agama baru yg lebih up-to-date,gereja yg lebih hightech,mesra-pengguna ala-country-club dan paderi-paderi berpakaian trendy.apa lagi kalau paderi ada kuasa mengampunkan dosa,tentu ramai yg tertarik untuk beriman.
anti-hadis,fikirkan cadangan saya.kaji Al Quran dan teliti Sunnah.atau tubuhkan Sciencetology di Malaysia dan ajak d.tan dan jolly berkongsi franchise.mereka adalah golongan peniaga yg hebat,oppurtunist lagi.strategi pemasaran mereka tiada tara nya.Faith for sale! anda pasti untung duit.sebulan 20%? sama dgn pungutan kebanyakkan gereja.boleh juga jual memorabilia sampingan seperti sijil pengampunan dosa dan sijil layak ke syurga,seperti yg pernah di jual oleh Vatican suatu waktu dahulu.
terimakasih Tun.
Dearest Tun
//MiddleAges
August 16, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Permalink
@parameswara 2
1. First of, my religion is the religion of Abraham. I guess you could say i am an Abrahamic muslim i guess.
2. If the religion of Abraham does not make sense to you, i guess you ought to follow what makes perfect sense to you, and not of course follow any “illogical” path. Faith is a matter for Allah, not for us to determine.//
1-Dear Midddle ages,what I meant by not making good sense to me is, how do you follow Abraham in his performing his rituals solat, terawihs, Haj,etc,etc knowing that the prophet was about at least a 1000 years earlier than his descendant prophet Muhamad?What record of Abraham do you people refer to in order to know just exactly how it was done.For example did prophet Abraham do 8 rakaats in his terawihs or more?Did prophet Abraham also do the sa’i or the stoning during Haj?Did prophet Abraham also pray 5 times a day?Where is your evidence to support all your Abrahamic practises?You get me?
NOW BACK TO ABDULAZIZOMAR
2-Dear AbdulAzizOmar,do you think the Rasullullah and his followers was also given the approval to do daqwah by the JAIS of Pagan Mecca?Why were the followers of the Prophet willing to be persecuted and die for their faith while the followers of Rashad Khalifa not willing? I am sure that no matter how the establishment of Malaysia may not be happy with your mission,they will not do you any bodily harm.Worse case scenario,only go to jail.Is that too much to undergo for your faith?
3-Like I have reiterated to you God would help us all the way in this restoration job under the leadership of the rightly guided caliph,and his helpers at the right time.This is the quranic evidence to support:-”Allah has promised those of you who believe and do right actions that he will make them the successors in the land,as he has made those before them successors ,and will firmly establish for them their deen,with which he is pleased,and give them in place of their fear,security.’They worship me ,not attributing any partner to me’.Any who reject after that,such people are the wantonly deviant”(24:55)
4-I have watched this video of the miracle 19 before and truly impressed with the discovery.If I am not mistaken Ahmad Deedat was also in that video.I think it was almost twenty years ago or maybe more.But it doesn’t matter so much to me because I am already a staunch believer in the AlQuran as a miracle from God with or without that sign 19.
5-I have a problem however in believing in a new Messenger of the Covenant from God,coming after the prophet who God had neither afford any power or any help of committed disciples to execute a very simple mission indeed,just to save the Muslims from the falsehood of the Hadis and to return them to believing only in the AlQu’ran.Compare this job to the job of establishing submission to a one God to the staunch polytheist of Mecca!
6-Instead of doing daqwah to non Muslims you seem more interested to expend your time on energy on fellow Muslims who you find have commitTed a grave sin against Allah for believing in the Hadis,a collection of what is supposed to be the prophet’s sayings or actions,when Muslims are in fact only obeying Allah’s command”You have an excellent model in the messenger of Allah,for all who put their hope in Allah and the last day”(33:21).
7-With this half hearted and an uncommitted initiative on your part you have only succeeded in starting another madhab of Islam,the Abrahamic Muslims sect.The divisions of Muslims have only worsen by the day.
8-I hope you understand why I would rather wait for the Al Mahdi instead.
Thanks Tun
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to say something.
Abdulazizomar you should know what you will get when debating with a group of kids.
If you dont like to be mocked and called names, you should just quietly walk away.
You should know kid’s behaviour, they cant discuss like an adult but yet they want to act like one. When was the last time
you saw a kid admitting mistake willingly? Educating one single kid is already tough, let alone a group of them.
Thank you Tun.
Dear Tun,
This posting is getting dirtier by the day. We have this evil person provoking muslims of Malaysia calling Wajaperak blind, calling me not using brain and general using distorted and unconventional interpretation of the Holy Quran to attack islam but pretending to be pro Quran and anti hadis. This evil person called abdulazizomar has accomplice in Kassim mohd Hussein and Hidden Secret.
Among his numerous writing, he introduces new azan for Muslim, minus Mohammada Rasullullah. Similarly he has a new protestant muslim religion with single kalimah shahadah. Here and there he tries to weaken the islamic faith by creating doubts among muslims. In other words, he creates misunderstanding among muslims by disputing praying silently or loudly, shahadah, azan and purposely finding faults with the conventional interpretation of islam. He even belittles JAIS. In other words he is the new Abuya or Ayah Pin. As Zulkifli Arif puts it correctly, this is the job for the authority or police to deal with the deviationist teaching of islam or ajaran sesat. Abdulazizomar is a false prophet or nabi palsu. Parameswara 2 has challenged him to openly preach his new religion or he can declare the islam we practice in Malaysia and Saudi Arabia as completely wrong and introduce his brand new religion called Submission abdulazizomartaik. abdulazizomar telah menghina dan mengkhianati islam bersubahat dengan geng2 lain seperti Kassim Mohd Hussein dan Hidden secret/agenda. Saya cadangkan Tun buat laporan polis segera supaya ajaran sesat ini tidak merebak dan memecahbelahkan orang2 islam di Malaysia.
amin tan
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to share some articles about the role of prophet Muhammad according to the Quran.
Role of the Prophet Muhammad
The Prophet’s sole mission was to deliver Quran, the whole Quran, and nothing but Quran (3:20; 5:48-50, 92, 99; 6:19; 13:40; 16:35, 82; 24:54; 29:18; 42:48; 64:12).
Delivering the Quran was such a momentous and noble mission that the Prophet did not have any time to do anything else. Moreover, the Prophet was enjoined in the strongest words from issuing any religious teachings besides the Quran (69:38-47). He was even enjoined from explaining the Quran (75:15-19) – God is the only teacher of the Quran (55:1-2) and the Quran is the best Hadith (39:23 & 45:6).
These Quranic facts are manifested in the historical reality that the words and actions (Hadith & Sunna) attributed to the Prophet did not appear until the second century after his death. The Quran has prophesied the fabrication of Hadith and Sunna by the Prophet’s enemies (6:112-115). The Quran teaches us that it was God’s will to permit the invention of Hadith and Sunna to serve as criteria for exposing those who believe only with their lips, not in their hearts. Those who are attracted to Hadith and Sunna are proven to be false believers (6:113).
Hadith & Sunna: Fabrications by the Prophet’s Enemies
[6:112] We have permitted the enemies of every prophet – human and jinn devils – to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.
Important Criterion
[6:113] This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.*
*6:113 The Quran provides criteria that tell us whether we truly believe in the Hereafter or merely give it lip service. These important criteria are stated here, and in 17:45-46 and 39:45.
*6:113-115 Upholding any source beside the Quran reflects disbelief in the Quran.
Quran: Fully Detailed
[6:114] Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
[6:115] The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.
Ironically, the books of Hadith report the Prophet’s orders to write down nothing from him except the Quran!
Shown below are two such Hadiths taken from the Hadithists’ most reliable sources, Sahih Muslim and Is-haah Ahmad Ibn Hanbal:
The Prophet said, “Do not write down anything from me except the Quran.” [Ahmed, Vol. 1, Page 171, and Sahih Muslim]
This Hadith states that the Prophet maintained his anti-Hadith stand until death. [Ahmed, Vol. 1, Page 192]
If you do not believe me, then maybe all of you should go and buy hadith and check it for yourself.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
I would like to share some articles about the name Allah that were once become and issue in Malaysia. The scholars were angry at the Christians for using word Allah for God.
Is Allah God of Muslims only?
According to the Quran, the most beautiful names belong to God Almighty. God creates all the languages and we can derive His beautiful names from any of these languages. There is no restriction in the Quran whatsoever in this matter. However, God only condemns the distortion of His name by associating idols besides Him. These are the important teachings of the Quran.
God Almighty created all languages, not just Arabic:
[30:22] Among His proofs are the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variation in your languages and your colors. In these, there are signs for the knowledgeable.
We can derive His Most beautiful names from any language, Arabic or non-Arabic, as we understand from the verse:
[7:180] To God belongs the most beautiful names; call upon Him therewith, and disregard those who distort His name. They will be requited for their sins.
Some of God’s beautiful English names can be derived from this English translation of the Quran:
[59:23] He is the One God; there is no other god besides Him. The King, the Most Sacred, the Peace, the Most Faithful, the Supreme, the Almighty, the Most Powerful, the Most Dignified. God be glorified; far above having partners.
[59:24] He is the One God; the Creator, the Initiator, the Designer. To Him belong the most beautiful names. Glorifying Him is everything in the heavens and the earth. He is the Almighty, Most Wise.
The “Islamic” scholars invent all sorts of ridiculous issues (hadith, tafsir, fatwas, etc.) and successfully divert millions of Muslims from the very important Quranic issues to unimportant unQuranic issues!!! One of such issue is their ridiculous invention of not saying the name of “God” for the Supreme Being in the English translation. According to them, “Allah” is genderless but “God” has gender!!!
The most important Quranic issue is not to distort God’s beautiful name by associating idol/idols beside God. Sadly, the Islamic scholars completely overlook this important point!!!
For example, the Quranic testimony for Declaration of Faith (in Arabic Shahadah) is simply “La elaha ella Allah”
(There is no god beside God). This testimony is taught by God Almighty in the Quran. All prophets and messengers, including Prophet Muhammad preached and followed this testimony (7:172-173; 3:18; 47:19; 20:14; 10:90; 37:35-36).
[37:35] When they are told, “La Elaha Ellah Allah”, they turned arrogant.
[37:36] They said, “Shall we leave our gods for the sake of a crazy poet?”
Sadly, millions of Muslims reverted to idolatry after the death of the prophet, added Muhammad’s name in the Quranic Testimony and practice this corrupt shahadah on a daily basis! (39:45; 3:18; 37:35)
The Arabic speaking Christians use the Arabic word “Allah” and not “God” —and they believe in Jesus as the “son of God” or in Arabic “Ibn’ Allah.” According to the Quran (7:180), they obviously distort the name Allah by associating Prophet Jesus with Allah.
Can we then reject the Arabic name “Allah” simply because they associate Jesus as “son of Allah” (in Arabic: Isa Ibn’ Allah)? Absolutely not!
In the Quran (59:23-24, 114:2-3), God Almighty suggests to us that one of His beautiful names is “The King” (in Arabic Malek). Can we deny God’s suggestion for “The King” for one of His beautiful names simply because the female gender for the King is the Queen? Absolutely not!
Even before the advent of Muhammad, the idol worshipers attributed sons and daughters to Allah (6:100, 16:57, 17:40, 37:149,153;43: 16; 52:39; 53:21). One such verse states:
[6:100] Yet, they set up besides Allah idols from among the jinns, though He is the One who created them. They even attribute to Him (Allah) sons and daughters, without any knowledge. Be He glorified. He is the Most High, far above their claims.
So, can we reject the Arabic word “Allah” simply because the Meccan idol worshipers associated sons and daughters with Allah and distort or pollute His name? Not at all!
We can find the use of “Allah” not “God” in the Arabic Bible. We can find the use of “Ishwar” not “God” in the Hindi Bible. An Arab Christian uses the word “Allah” not “God” when he or she calls on God. An English speaking Christian uses the word “God” for Allah. Sadly, the traditional English translators of the Quran are influenced by hadith or fatwas and used the Arabic word “Allah” instead of English word “God” in their English translations. This only gives the false impression to the English speaking people that “Allah” is an Arabic God or a Muslim God!
Using the word “Allah,” “Khoda,” “God” or “Dios” and so on, all depends on the circumstances. For example, it is logical to use “Khoda” in Farsi or the Bangla translation of the Quran for Bangla speaking people (of Bangladesh). It is logical to use “Bhagavan” in the Hindi translation of the Quran for the Hindi speaking people, “Dios” for the Spanish speakers and “God” in the English translation of the Quran for the English speaking people.
In most non-Arabic speaking Muslim countries, some Muslims force their children to read the Quran in Arabic. The adults also read the Quran in Arabic, but they do not understand a single word of what they read. What good is it to read the Quran in Arabic like a parrot without understanding its meaning or like a donkey carrying valuable books?
[62:5] The example of those who were given the Torah, then failed to uphold it, is like the donkey carrying great works of literature. Miserable indeed is the example of people who rejected God’s revelations. God does not guide the wicked people.
The important thing is not what name we call God, as God knows our innermost intentions; but not to associate any idols with Him and recognize Him in our hearts as He should be recognized. Last but not least, this is one of the many reminders of the Quran.
[30:40] God is the One who created you. He is the One who provides for you. He is the One who puts you to death. He is the One who resurrects you. Can any of your idols do any of these things? Be He glorified. He is much too exalted to have any partners.
Thank you Tun
Peace!
Government of Malaysia prohibits the open preaching of all religions to Sunni people in Malaysia. As such, all religions in Malaysia are ‘disorganized’ in preaching openly to the Sunni people in Malaysia.
http://www.e-fatwa.gov.my/kategori-fatwa/akidah?page=9
As such, we are not interested to preach openly to the Sunni people in Malaysia. However, anyone can post comment in Tun’s blog including you and us. It is up to Tun then. For those who are unhappy or dislike with what other people write in Tun’s blog, all of us have to accept the fact that we do not have any control over Tun’s blog and there is nothing we can do to prevent anyone from writing or giving comments. What we should do is to give our response in the nicest possible manner.
[41:34] Not equal is the good response and the bad response. YOU SHALL RESORT TO THE NICEST POSSIBLE RESPONSE. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend.
For those who are interested to meet us or to debate with us, I am regret to inform you that we are not interested to meet up or to debate with you because we do not care about your believe. We only care about our believe.
Regards and GOD bless.
Dear Tun,
may I please reply to abdul aziz omar’s latest entry addressed to me,
Islam is agama yang rukhsah (easy to practice), practical and wholesome.
I read the Quran, I have my full faith in Al-quran, and I try my best to understand and practice it. I believe in words like surah Muhammad verse 24; “Do they not think deeply over Alquran or are their hearts locked up?” . But I also believe in its following sentence verse 33; “O you who believe, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and render not vain your deeds”.
Unfortunately perhaps I’m not blessed like you, to be able to understand simple surah al-fatihah right up to an-nas without interpretations, translations, or understanding its history when it was sent down. I believe with having these aids around me I can come closer to Allah’s words and be passionate of Islam. When I read its translation, I believe that His words are addressed to me. I was not there with his family and companions like Abu bakr, Umar, Ali, Uthman, Abu Hurairah, Fatimah, Aisyah etc; to be with them when the prophet revealed the Quran and propagated Islam, but I would like to know its history. I don’t believe that that is haram, and that does not mean that I am being syirik against Allah because never since I have embraced Islam that I believe that there are any other deities except for Allah. and I do believe in the second kalimah syahadah as Muhammad is the messenger of God.
Arguing whether to say your prayers silently, in a moderate tone or loudly is silly. This is embarrassing Islam as a religion by making it look so stringent that two need to argue over the simplest thing ! Try going abroad and having to pray in a fitting room in a foreign country, or even needing to pray on a moving train or an aircraft sat next to a non-muslim. At the same time as you follow Allah’s orders, as Muslims, you have to respect your neighbours and the order of the countries that you are visiting too. I know the prophet has prayed silently before, hence I know that that won’t be haram, then I do it silently. You are so blessed to see masjid and surau everywhere around you in Malaysia to be able to keep your moderate tone of voice when you pray your five times a day prayers. There is no one to say that you are doing it wrong, it’s stated in the quran as we believe and you rightly quoted, yes, continue to do so. Nobody is saying that it is wrong. However I also go for practicality and as what I believe in the prophet’s sunnah. I have full faith that that’s guided by Allah and I use his way too. That, too, I believe in Islam, and re-quoting surah Al-ahzab verse 21 again in the quran, “Dan Sungguh, telah ada pada diri Rasulullah itu suri teladan yang baik bagimu, bagi orang yang mengharap rahmat Allah dan hari kiamat dan yang banyak mengingati Allah. I believe that that will give me brownie points for trying to copy the best Muslim there is to give me that extra little chance of a ticket to jannah. Because I know that it’s only by Allah’s blessings despite any of the deeds that I have done that I can gain entry into paradise.
You can group people into separate “types” of believers, announce that only you are right and the rest of the world is wrong as you like, but please know abdulaziz, we are all not god to judge people. That is god’s job. Alhujurat verse 11 said, o you who believe, do not scoff another party as that other person/party is better than you are. Please do not say that people who believe in the prophet’s sunnah and words in the form of hadeeth are disbelievers who do not read and believe in the Quran, and the oneness of Allah. They do.
Allah knows best.
Thanks Tun.
amin tan
To, AbdulAzizOmar,
Let suppose that you are sent to Papua New Guinea to convert savages to Islam.
You are sent to this location from the Anti-Hadis organization.
How are you going to teach them how to pray 5 times a day (practically), and the other Islam rukun (in practical detail).?
Secondy what is the model of good behavior (akhlaq) that they should adopt since you said we cannot follow Muhammad but only Al-Quran?
Supposing there is one smart guy from the savages ask you how are you sure that the prayers and the Islamic practices that you thought is the correct interpretation of Islam, are you going to say that this is what my grandfather thought me since the prophet Ibrahim 3000 years ago, therefore it must be correct? (is this an academically valid answer?)
I am quite curious and hoping for the answer if you do not mind answering those question rather then diverting to other things except answering the question.
Dear Tun,
Parameswara, in Malaysia there is rules and regulations that we need to follow JAIS, or whatever. If you do not follow them, then you are in trouble. If you do not follow majority, you are doing something wrong. You know that….
So how could we want to inform and dakwah other people when the law said otherwise. JAIS and everyone who representing religious department are all corrupt in Malaysia. They follow their own law. They do not follow the correct teaching/law of Islam. They have been making mistake after mistake all this while. They can’t even help poor people who needs money/zakat to prepare for Ramadhan. When others do help, they become angry and jealous. These are leaders that you want to follow?
Brother, Rashad Khalifa is dead now. But the message he brought was simply to worship God. He never ask anyone to worship him. He did not ask money from people. He never put himself above anyone. He simply deliver the message. Of course the message must a have a proof. The proof is the code ’19′. I suggest you should read about it. And he also inform us to band together worshiping God alone. Nothing else. He also asked us to refer to Quran. What is wrong with that? Imam Mahdi, as everyone believes, will be sent to this world, confirming all the scripture, and reading a purified scripture to us. That was what he did. He brought same message, which is the the Quran as well. But he must have a proof to make people believe. His mukjizat is the miracle of Quran with number 19 to prove that Quran is from Allah.
Let me share with you some proofs of it. Then you can go home and count yourself to see it for yourself.
The Simple Facts
Like the Quran itself, the Quran’s mathematical coding ranges from the very simple, to the very complex. The Simple Facts are those observations that can be ascertained without using any tools. The complex facts require the assistance of a calculator or a computer. The following facts do not require any tools to be verified, but please remember they all refer to the original Arabic text:
1. The first verse (1:1), known as “Basmalah,” consists of 19 letters.
2. The Quran consists of 114 Suras, which is 19 x 6.
3. The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346, or 19 x 334.
[6234 numbered verses & 112 un-numbered verses (Basmalahs) 6234+112 = 6346] Note that 6+3+4+6= 19.
4. The Basmalah occurs 114 times, despite its conspicuous absence from Sura 9 (it occurs twice in Sura 27) & 114= 19 x 6.
5. From the missing Basmalah of Sura 9 to the extra Basmalah of Sura 27, there are precisely 19 Suras.
6. It follows that the total of the Sura numbers from 9 to 27 (9+10+11+12+…+26+27) is 342, or 19 x 18.
7. This total (342) also equals the number of words between the two Basmalahs of Sura 27, and 342 = 19 x 18.
8. The famous first revelation (96:1-5) consists of 19 words.
9. This 19-worded first revelation consists of 76 letters 19 x 4.
10. Sura 96, first in the chronological sequence, consists of 19 verses.
11. This first chronological Sura is placed atop the last 19 Suras.
12. Sura 96 consists of 304 Arabic letters, and 304 equals 19 x 16.
13. The last revelation (Sura 110) consists of 19 words.
14. The first verse of the last revelation (110:1) consists of 19 letters.
15. 14 different Arabic letters, form 14 different sets of “Quranic Initials” (such as A.L.M. of 2:1), and prefix 29 Suras. These numbers add up to 14+14+29=57= 19 x 3.
16. The total of the 29 Sura numbers where the Quranic Initials occur is 2+3+7+…+50+68 = 822, and 822+14 (14 sets of initials) equals 836, or 19 x 44.
17. Between the first initialed Sura (Sura 2) and the last initialed Sura (Sura 68) there are 38 un-initialed Suras 19 x 2.
18. Between the first and last initialed Sura there are 19 sets
of alternating “initialed” and “uninitialed” Suras.
19. The Quran mentions 30 different numbers: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 19, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 99, 100, 200, 300, 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000, 50,000, & 100,000. The sum of these numbers is 162146, which equals 19×8534.
Above are the simple facts that you can verify yourself. There are many more proofs from Quran regarding the miracle of Quran with number 19. But it is more complex in some of it. You need to read it for yourself of how calculation works. Maybe you should check it and read it for yourself. Who knows, you might like it and amazed by it. God willing.
I have never been informed of anything like this by any Imam/scholars in Islam. They always tell me about hadith but not the greatness of Quran. So why should I listen to them? I should listen to someone who is telling me the greatness of God and the Quran. Then only I can understand my religion. Understanding hadith, does not permit you to understand Islam. Quran is what you and me should study. That is the right path.
I pray that everyone of us will study and learn Quran in detail. It will strengthen our belief to Allah.
Thank you Tun
Salam Tun,
I wish to add just a tiny bit please.
parameswara 2 wrote :
“Your explanation ( explanation by abdulazizomar ) that it has already been done by prophet Ibraham does not make good sense to me.”
@parameswara 2
1. First of, my religion is the religion of Abraham. I guess you could say i am an Abrahamic muslim i guess.
2. If the religion of Abraham does not make sense to you, i guess you ought to follow what makes perfect sense to you, and not of course follow any “illogical” path. Faith is a matter for Allah, not for us to determine.
3. To interpret Islam correctly, I recommend all to earnestly study the Quran in its completeness, and additionally all the Books of Allah ( the Torah and the Gospel ). If you follow the light of Allah, i am sure Allah will guide you all the way until you understand. Be patient, and follow the light.
QURAN
[6:161] Say, “My Lord has guided me in a straight path – the perfect religion of Abraham, monotheism. He never was an idol worshiper.”
[6:162] Say, “My Contact Prayers (Salat), my worship practices, my life and my death, are all devoted absolutely to God alone, the Lord of the universe.
[6:163] “He has no partner. This is what I am commanded to believe, and I am the first to submit.”
[6:164] Say, “Shall I seek other than God as a lord, when He is the Lord of all things? No soul benefits except from its own works, and none bears the burden of another. Ultimately, you return to your Lord, then He informs you regarding all your disputes.”
This is then the religion of Abraham, as enlightened by the Quran.
Thank you kindly Tun
Peace Be Upon You!
IN THE NAME OF GOD.
Did Noah fail in his mission as a messenger of GOD because only a few believe in his message?
[29:14] We sent Noah to his people, and HE STAYED WITH THEM ONE THOUSAND YEARS, LESS FIFTY.* Subsequently, they incurred the flood because of their transgressions.
*29:14 Since the Quran’s miracle is mathematical, the numbers especially constitute an important part of the 19-based code. Thus, the numbers mentioned in the Quran add up to 162146, or 19×8534 (see Appendix 1 for the details).
[11:40] When our judgment came, and the atmosphere boiled over, we said, “Carry on it a pair of each kind,* together with your family, except those who are condemned. Carry with you those who have believed,” and ONLY A FEW HAVE BELIEVED WITH HIM.
*11:40 & 44 This is God’s proven truth: Noah’s ark was made of logs, tied together with primitive ropes (54:13). Contrary to common belief, the flood was limited to the area around today’s Dead Sea, and the animals were Noah’s livestock only; not every animal that lived on earth.
Regards and GOD bless.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Tun..Tun..
Orang kafir anti hadith ni cari publisiti dan Tun bagi?…:)
Ikut suka Tun lah…
Tun..saya harap Tun emphasized kepada orang-orang kafir anti hadith ini soalan tentang apakah yang berlaku di Sidaratul Muntaha?..itu sahaja yang saya minta dari mereka..
Terima kasih Tun..
Deaerest Tun
1-Abdulazizomar, the ALQuran is the ultimate book of the Muslims and the only thing that i refer to for my guidance.But I understand that if we do not have the Hadis we will not have the methodology of how we perform our rituals.Your explanation that it has already been done by prophet Ibraham does not make good sense to me.
2-But if you have been reading me which I am sure you have ,I will only surrender myself to God to help me with this big decision.I am awaiting the rightfully guided Caliph the AlMahdi the only person with the clear authority to correct whatever that is wrong.He may be in authority to abrogate or restore the Hadis with the power in his hand.I won’t simply believe that he is the Mahdi just because of some clear magical signs but only when he has successfully established himself as that promised powerful Caliph with God’s help.
3-The theory of the return of the caliphate found in the Hadis makes sense to me.Islam came great it must also end great.This big restoration will be instrumental in a paradigm shift the way Muslims think and that will lead us out of darkness into light.To do this effective mindset change will require lots of power,because there will be a hell lot of resistance.We will insya’allah achieve a new golden Age much glorier than our former.
4-But in the meanwhile I won’t be hasty.As I am not in the field of Islamic jurisprudence my only reference to the Hadis is when I want to learn more about the Rasulullah.But because I will always be critical of the accounts, I find that the Hadis does not in anyway make me think of God less or even place the Prophet in the same level with God.If there had been corruption,which I know there is I will only patiently wait for the right authority God had promised to deliver of help .I do not have the authority to restore it by myself.
5-I understand that you and your many friends believe that Rashad Khalifa is the Messenger of the Covenant who has been send by God to restore the message hence why you have been so dead sure to reject the Hadis.
6-For this restoration job the chosen one must be helped fully the way Allah have helped prophet Muhamad SAW to deliver Islam and the AlQuran.He should also be around to see the restoration job done to completion until the Muslims become successful people again.
7-Rashad Khalifah came maybe with some clear signs ’19′but now he is dead.His messengership is only confirmed by a handful of his believers who doesn’t seem to be too sure of themselves to preach to the masses openly.Unlike the Prophet and his followers who are willing to be martyred for challenging the Pagan establishment to deliver the message in public,Rashad Khalifa’s disciples only dare to do behind the screen through the internet.
8-OmarAbdulAziz,Hidden secret,Kassim Muhamad Hussain,I think it is about time you people become organized ,if not yet,and appear in public to announce your real faith.Because until Kingdom comes the rate of conversion to anti Hadism will be too slow to impact the Muslims to become a successful people again.I think Rashad Khalifa’s martyrdom had been in vain by the cowardice of his disciples.
9-If you are truly confident that Rashad Khalifa is the true Messenger of the Covenant you must be proud to be among the first of his helpers and be ready to even give up your lives for this mission.
10-If you are true don’t worry be happy,God will be on your side.Only your God fearing commitment if I can see it may bring me to your side.I am open.You know that!
Thanks Tun
Dear Tun,
Amin Tan, you are missing the point. If you really obey Allah and His revelations, then you should read the same way as how God inform you. By using Hadith to say Muhammad said,’ pray the way you see me pray’ is not a proof for you to justify your argument here. Since Muhammad is a obedient of Allah, he surely utter exactly how Quran told him to utter. Even he did is silently or secretly, he must have his reasons. But for you to obey Hadith is wrong because we should obey God’s revelations.
That is the reason why I have been against you and people like you simply because you do not follow Quran. Worse more, you said it is from Quran. Please understand. Do not simply follow Hadith without even using your brain. What makes you want to overlook Quran’s revelation? Is it because hadith said so? Or is it because you are having war now in your place that you cannot utter loudly, moderate tone? You have enemies around you listening to you doing Solat? Please use your brain brother.
Islam is not abu hurairah, muslim’s religion. It is God’s religion. So follow Quran please.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
Amin Tan, you are missing the point. If you really obey Allah and His revelations, then you should read the same way as how God inform you. By using Hadith to say Muhammad said,’ pray the you see me pray’ is not a proof for you to justify your argument here. Since Muhammad is a obedient of Allah, he surely utter exactly how Quran told him to utter. Even he did is silently or secretly, he must have his reasons. But for you to obey Hadith is wrong because we should obey God’s revelations.
That is the reason why I have been against you and people like you simply because you do not follow Quran. Worse more, you said it is from Quran. Please understand. Do not simply follow Hadith without even using your brain. What makes you want to overlook Quran’s revelation? Is it because hadith said so? Or is it because you are having war now in your place that you cannot utter loudly, moderate tone? You have enemies around you listening to you doing Solat? Please use your brain brother.
Islam is not abu hurairah, muslim’s religion. It is God’s religion. So follow Quran please.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
Wajaperak continue his mumbling again as always. You questions so much of the authenticity and understanding of Quran because maybe you are blind that is why. You always have your reasoning regarding understanding of the Quran. How many times do I have to show you verses from Quran that says QUran is complete, fully detailed, easy to understand, hikmat to people, healing to human, and God describe with the word, HAKIM and WISDOM. But you insist on your way of not believing in Quran. I guess your hearts has been shield!
Thank you Tun!
Peace Be Upon You!
Let us measure ourselves…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITf149iZqX8
[6:112] We have permitted the enemies of every prophet – human and jinn devils – to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.
[6:113] This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.
Regards and GOD bless.
Hi Tun,
May I respond to AbdulAzizOmar and P2. Thank you Tun.
Hi AbdulAzizOmar, it is not fair for you to say things about Christianity by criticizing backwards. God’s inspired works are original, and prophesize forward, and not criticize backward.
Anybody can write articles that criticize past events, if even this is allowed, everybody can write something and claims it is of God.
“And I will pour on the house of David, and on those living in Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of prayers. And they shall look on Me whom they have pierced; and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only [son], and [they] shall be bitter over Him, like the bitterness over the first-born.” (ref. the Old Testament, Zechariah 12:10)
God was talking about Pentecost here, and that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were all in the same verse, and that the Father identified Himself with the Son when He said, “look on Me whom they have pierced.”
Jesus said, “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you do know Him, and have seen Him” (ref. John 14:7).
The book of Revelation, the last book in the Bible, ends with a severe warning telling us not to add or take away from the prophecies written in that book . It is very surprising that people dare (emphasize dare) to add a whole new book of prophecies a few centuries later. Do I not agree with the fact that the work inspired by God preempt rather than criticize backward in time?
To P2:
1. Though at times your viewpoints match mine, but I totally disagree with your frequent viewpoint that traders are a kind of trusted persons. I would rather trust a carpenter than a trader.
2. The rapid increase in membership of a certain institution doesn’t really indicate whether that institution is of God or not.
“Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.” (ref. Matthew 7:14)
Peace!
Let us walk the talk…
http://www.youtube.com/user/fromdtothelight#p/u/45/TGOCijWwBHE
Regards and GOD bless.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to respond to our friend parameswara.
Old Testament, New Testament and Final Testament are all from Allah. Those earlier scripture were sent to down to prophets before Muhammad. People before Muhammad used them as source of law. But then people corrupt them. Just like Muslims today corrupt the teaching of Quran with hadith explanation. They put the hadith of Moses over word of God(Old Testament). Same goes to New Testament when the Christians corrupts it with their believe of Jesus being the god and son of god, and holy spirit. Then with Final Testament, Muslims believe that we need hadith to explain the Quran. The scholars said, without hadith, we cannot understand the Quran. How could they dare to say that? Nobody is using old scripture right now. Maybe you can still find them, but I am not sure the authenticity of it. So I do not think I should follow them when Quran is right on my table for me to refer.
Do not change change the topic now. We are arguing about the truth of Quran and Hadith. This is has nothing to do with previous scripture. Even then, the previous scriptures were all from Allah. But Hadith you know for sure, were human made. You admit it yourself that some hadith are totally nonsense but you still believe in some of it. But you are missing the point here. When you have inconsistent book to refer about salvation and the truth of Islam, then you should eliminate them. Because God will be with those who uphold His revelations not others. His revelations are the truth. No falsehood can enter it. But you insist on mixing it up with hadith, then end up not getting the right message of Islam. At the end of the day, you are upholding human’s law. Not God’s law. As simple as that.
You should study the history of how hadith was collected and compiled. Then maybe you can understand better. Right now its very difficult because you insist on defending hadith, but not Quran. Are you saying word of men (HADITH) is better than word of God (QURAN)? Please use your brain and study the Quran then Insyallah you will get the answers in it.
You should read the miracle of Quran with the number 19. Then maybe you will understand better. If you understand the miracle of the Quran, then maybe you will be more confident with Quran than you are right now. It seems that you need more proofs from Allah to tell you that the Quran is from Allah. Muhammad only brought the Quran. He did not bring any other kitab. Please understand that. But the message of Quran has been delivered to every corner of the world. If you want to defend Islam then defend Quran. Defend what was brought by our beloved Prophet Muhammad. Not by defending Abu Hurairah, Muslims and etc.
I can’t believe in Hadith simply because Muhammad never believe in them. Muhammad never use them. Muhammad never refer to it. Muhammad never ask people to write anything about his doings and sayings(HADITH) -if you believe in Hadith then maybe you should believe in this one too. Muhammad maintain his stand against hadith during his lifetime. This is according to hadith also. But you put that away.
Islam all over the world has become religion of their leaders. No longer religion of God which use God’s law according to the Quran. All I am asking you right now, use Quran as the source of law and regulations. Use Quran for us to refer when we have disputes. Use Quran when we have problems with people around us. There is healing for everyone who reads Quran. Do not use other sources for us to establish Islam.
That is all I am asking here. Just use Quran. After all, Allah is the teacher of the Quran. 55:2
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
Allow me to share one piece of information of knowledge to all the bloggers including Syed Alwi Ahmad, Dtan, Ekompute, Andrew Tay, Abdul aziz omar, HPT456, Sudin, Wajaperak, zulkifli arif, parameswara2, samuraimelayu, nikmat and everybody else who may want to know more about Islam and be inspired by the religion.
Please read or research the 2 very important personalities who were prophet Muhammad’s sahabah.
1. Khalid ibn Walid (nicknamed Saifullah)
2. Abu Ubaidah Al-Jarrah
After reading the history of these 2 personalities, one will surely appreciate Islam.
wallahualam
amin tan
Dear Tun,
May I also please refer to a specific sentence written by abdul aziz omar as follows;
“they saw prophet utter secretly so that the enemy could not hear”
There is a difference between using the word secretly as compared to silently. Secretly may imply that someone has a hidden agenda, and silently is a better word to use in this case.
wallahualam
amin tan
Salam Tun,
Laughter is the best medicine.
There is a Muhammad.com. Wow.
Better still, i tried Allah.com. Guess what ?
I got sent ( not god sent) to the same page as Muhammad.com !
I guess Muhammad.com exclusively owns Allah.com
Isn’t IT amazing ?
No wonder it’s so difficult for people to get to know Allah.
Thank You Tun
Assallammualaikum Tun..
Saya hanya satu sahaja nak tambah..dengan keizinan Tun..
Di zaman Rasullullah s.a.w,Al Quran tidak dibukukan.Ianya di bukukan di zaman Saidina Abu Bakar Assidiq r.a. atas saranan Saidina Umar r.a.Saidina Abu Bakar terus-menerus bertanya Saidina Umar r.a.”Adakah aku akan melakukan apa yang tidak di lakukan oleh Rasullulah s.a.w?”Tapi usul ini adalah untuk kebaikan”.Demikianlah sehingga Allah membuka pintu hati Saidina Abu Bakar Assidiq r.a.Di masa itu mashaf bukanlah seperti sekarang.Ianya tidak bertitik dan rupa bentuk kalimah hampir sama sehingga hanya orang Arab yang fasih sahaja dapat membaca tanpa baris dan titik.Hal ini pernah di nyatakan oleh arwah ustaz saya Ustaz Zainuddin.”Jika mereka orang yang benar..buang semua baris dan titik dan bacalah..” Hal yang sama pernah di ucapkan oleh Rasullullah s.a.w…”Ma ana bikari..” Saya tidak tahu membaca..Mengapa Jibril a.s memeluk Rasullulah s.a.w 3 kali dan baru mengajar baginda s.a.w membaca?..Begitulah..berapakah jarak lama terputusnya wahyu?Berapa banyak ayat yang di turunkan di malam hari?Berapa banyak pula ayat yang di turunkan di siang hari??
Apakah yang berlaku di Sidaratul Muntaha?
Siapakah orangnya yang di sebut oleh Allah..”Dian dan sahabatnya berdua di dalam gua”..Siapakah orang itu??
Abdazizomar atau Rashad Khalifah atau…Ala Kassim??
“Dan Musa a.s berjumpa dengan salah seorang hamba kami
( Allah ) yang di beri ilmu langsung dari kami ( Allah )..
Siapakah nama hamba ini ?
Abdazizomar atau Rashad Khalifah atau…Ala Kassim??
Siapakah yang memberi nama-nama Surah di dalam Al Quran??
Abdazizomar atau Rashad Khalifah atau…Ala Kassim??
Bagaimanakah yang di katakan bacaan Tartil itu?
Apa bezanya dengan bacaan Tadwir dan Hadar??
Berapa huruf-huruf hija’yah yang boleh di sambung?
Berapa huruf yang tidak boleh di sambungkan?
Bagaimana menggayakan bacaan Al Quran itu?
Mengapa hukum Mad itu 13 dan bukan 130??
Apakah yang di katakan sukun? Waqaf?
Di manakah waqaf Jibril dan mengapa?
Mengapa surah-surah Al Quran berakhir dengan jumlah tertentu seperti 285,110 dan lain-lain..Adakah perkiraan ini di lakukan oleh
Abdazizomar atau Rashad Khalifah atau…Ala Kassim??
Begitulah Tun..tidak kehabisan persoalan tentang Al Quran.Tetapi intipati yang penting ialah kami belajar di tempat-tempat yang betul.Mengikut saluran,guru dan peraturan yang betul..Telah banyak ayat Al Quran yang saya sebut dan saya tidak mahu mengulanginya lagi..Tetapi Tun..alangkah peliknya manusia yang mendakwa mengikut ajaran Al Quran tetapi cara membacanya pun tidak di fahaminya bermula dengan hukum mad yang 13 itu..
Sekian Tun..Cukuplah Allah menjadi saksi..
Ribuan terima kasih..
Salam Tun,
Al-Quran adalah Al-Kitab
[27:1]
Ta-seen tilka ayatual Qur-ani wakitabin mubeen
Taa, siin. Ini ialah ayat-ayat Al-Quran, juga Kitab yang jelas nyata
Sejarah Al-Quran diluar Al-Quran tidak diperlukan, kerana ia mudah diBohongi. Sejarah Palsu, Tipu, Bohong boleh dicipta.
[12:111]
Demi sesungguhnya, kisah Nabi-nabi itu mengandungi pelajaran yang mendatangkan iktibar bagi orang-orang yang mempunyai akal fikiran. Bukanlah ia Hadeeth yang diada-adakan, tetapi ia mengesahkan apa yang tersebut di dalam Kitab-kitab ugama yang terdahulu daripadanya, dan ia sebagai keterangan yang menjelaskan tiap-tiap sesuatu, serta menjadi hidayah petunjuk dan rahmat bagi kaum yang beriman.
Al-Quran Bebas dari Bohong kerana ianya AL-KITAB [2:2]
Kerana Al-Quran Al-Kitab memberi perlindungan dari Palsu, Tipu, Bohong. [2:2]
Al-Quran tidak perlu pertolongan hadis luar.
[10:37]
“Al-Quran itu diturunkan oleh Allah untuk membenarkan Kitab-kitab yang diturunkan sebelumnya, dan untuk menjelaskan satu persatu hukum-hukum”
Dan Al-Quran Al-Kitab disalin dengan banyaknya sehingga mustahil untuk diRosakkan.
[3:20]
Oleh sebab itu jika mereka berhujah membantahmu, maka katakanlah: “Aku telah berserah diriku kepada Allah dan demikian juga orang-orang yang mengikutku”. Dan bertanyalah kepada orang-orang yang diberi Kitab, dan orang-orang yang “Ummi”: “Sudahkah kamu mematuhi dan menurut?” Kemudian jika mereka memeluk Islam, maka sebenarnya mereka telah memperoleh petunjuk; dan jika mereka berpaling, maka sesungguhnya kewajipanmu hanyalah menyampaikan. Dan (ingatlah), Allah sentiasa Melihat (tingkah laku) sekalian hambaNya.
Apakah Jaminan, Mekanisme Keselamatan Hadis Diluar Al-Quran?
Dear Tun,
May I refer to Abdul Aziz Omar’s entry which stated as below;
“Just to ask you readman and everyone else. In 17:110, God stated that we shall not utter our contact prayers too loudly, nor secretly; use a moderate tone.
Then why do we utter the third and fourth unit/rakaat secretly? God asked us to use a moderate tone. Why can’t we even follow a simple instruction like that? Why can’t we just continue to utter the same tone as we utter for 1st and 2nd unit for 3rd and 4th? Do we obey God? Or do we obey Hadith here? Is it because hadith said during the time of Prophet Muhammad, during a war, they saw prophet utter secretly so that the enemy could not hear. ”
King Faisal ibn Abd al-Aziz of Saudi Arabia on the 8th of Rajab 1391 AH (August 29, 1971 C.E. in the Gregorian calendar) issued a royal decree establishing the Council of Senior Scholars for his country. Under section four of the decree, it stated,
“The Permanent Committee has been left the task of selecting its members from amongst the members of the Council (of Senior Scholars) in accordance with the Royal Decree. Its aim is to prepare research papers ready for discussion amongst the Council (of Senior Scholars), and issue fataawa on individual issues. This is by responding to the fatwa-seeking public in areas of ‘aqeedah, ‘ibaadah and social issues. It will be called: The Permanent Committee for Islaamic Research and Fataawa (al-Lajnah ad-Daa’imah lil-Buhooth al-’Ilmiyyah wal-Iftaa.)”
With this decree came the establishment of the Permanent Committee for Islamic Research and Fataawa (Islamic rulings). Since its inception, the Permanent Committee has been relied upon by Muslims all over the world for rulings in Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence), Hadith (sayings of the Prophet Muhammad), and Aqeedah (Islamic creed) issues.
For those with questions regarding the Islamic ruling on a variety of questions, it is possible to write to the Permanent Committee asking for a fatwa on a specific topic.
In their fataawa, the Permanent Committee has become renowned for its thoroughness in deriving their rulings. All fataawa are derived from evidence from the three sources of Islamic knowledge: the Qur’an, authentic Sunnah, and understanding of the rightly guided companions of the Prophet Muhammad. Moreover, they will usually explain all the potential Islamic viewpoints of an issue and will then explain, which in their view is the most authentic opinion based on the evidence
In Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah wa’l-Buhooth (6/392) it says the following:
It was reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to recite aloud in the two Rak’ahs of Subh (Fajr), and in the first two rak’ahs of Maghrib and ‘Ishaa’. So reciting aloud in these cases is Sunnah, and it is prescribed for his Ummah to follow his example, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Indeed in the Messenger of Allaah you have a good example to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allaah and the Last Day and remembers Allaah much.” [al-Ahzaab 33:21].
It was reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Pray as you have seen me praying.”
Reciting silently when one is supposed to recite aloud implies that one is neglecting the Sunnah, even though this does not invalidate the prayer.
So the Muslim should recite aloud during Fajr prayer and in the first two rak’ahs of Maghrib and ‘Ishaa’, even if he is praying alone, because this is the Sunnah.
wallahu’alam.
amin tan
Hi Tun,
There seems (Hi Sudin, please check out the meaning of “seem”) to be a lot of experts in Tun’s blog, arguing with each other.
Instead of arguing with each other, why do they not spend some time refuting each and every point found in
http://www.arabicbible.com/islam/prophet.htm
Sooner or later the future generations will get to know the facts stated, why not refute them earlier if they can.
These future generations will definitely find out that the true GOD the Almighty definitely knew of the future events (because all creations are in HIS plan), and that we will, one day, GOD willing, be living in space stations and on other planets.
It will be lucrative, therefore, for them to invent a machine in advance, that can pin-point to a particular location in the relative space-time, in carrying out their “duties” a few times daily.
Thanks Tun.
p.s. Hi Sudin, where is the part III of my story ? : )
Hi AbdulAzizOmar, if you want Wajaperak to plug away all the fruits, the future generations will have difficulties identifying what type of tree it is that bear those fruits.
Salam Tun,
Tn Sudin,
You said this, Quote
I’ll be more precise here, that the muzakarah I’m seeking is intended to discuss and hopefully resolve the numerous incriminating matters/issues which you have posted & published in Tun’s blog. Unquote
1. The muzakarah you’re seeking is intended to discuss and hopefully to resolve. But you appear to have found Tn AbdulAzizOmar guilty even before the propose muzakarah takes place, despite verses from the Al-Quran being conveyed to you. 2 : 2 This scripture is infallible; a beacon for the righteous. Do you accept this verse from surah Al-Baqarah? If you don’t, tell me, where will you go upon death?
2. Tun Mahathir has provided this platform for us to discuss matters that is of benefit to its readers, and hopefully to the masses, maturely and not being abusive like name-calling. 25 : 9 Note how they called you all kinds of names, and how this led them astray, never to find their way back. 49 : 11 …Anyone who does not repent after this, these are the transgressors.
3. I see no necessity to submit to Tn Sudin’s proposal (invitation!). This platform has provided and will continue to provide us more than enough time to share and disseminate Islam based on truth and nothing but the truth from the Al-Quran. Tn Sudin, please do not waste our productive and invaluable time to have a ‘muzakarah’ with you and ‘THE FEW OTHER’. Hahaha!
4. Tn AbdulAzizOmar, I have made myself clear.
May Almighty Allah continue to bless us all in our continued efforts to upholding Quran Only and worshiping Him Alone!
Salam Tun,
Terima Kasih kerana membenarkan saya berkata disini.
2:268
AshShaytanu yaAAidukumual Faqra waya/murukum bil Fahsha-i wallahuyaAAidukum maghfiratan minhu wafadlan wallahuwasiAAun AAaleem
Syaitan itu menjanjikan kamu dengan kemiskinan dan kepapaan, dan ia menyuruh kamu melakukan perbuatan yang keji; sedang Allah menjanjikan kamu keampunan daripadaNya serta kelebihan kurniaNya. Dan, Allah Maha Luas limpah rahmatNya, lagi sentiasa Meliputi PengetahuanNya.
7:134
Walamma waqaAAa AAalayhimu arrijzuqaloo ya moosa odAAu lana rabbaka bimaAAahida AAindaka la-in kashafta AAanna arrijzalanu/minanna laka walanursilanna maAAaka banee isra-eel
Dan apabila azab yang tersebut itu menimpa mereka, mereka berkata: “Wahai Musa! Pohonkanlah kepada Tuhanmu untuk kami dengan pangkat Nabi yang diberikanNya kepadamu. Sesungguhnya jika engkau hapuskan azab itu daripada kami, tentulah kami akan beriman kepadamu, dan sudah tentu kami akan membebaskan kaum Bani Israil bersamamu”.
43:49
Waqaloo ya ayyuha asahiruodAAu lana rabbaka bima AAahida AAindaka innanalamuhtadoon
Dan, mereka merayu kepada Nabi Musa dengan berkata: “Wahai orang yang bijak pandai, pohonkanlah kepada Tuhanmu keselamatan untuk kami dengan pangkat Nabi yang diberikan kepadamu; sesungguhnya kami akan patuh beriman”.
39:10
Qul ya AAibadi allatheenaamanoo ittaqoo rabbakum lillatheena ahsanoofee hathihi addunya hasanatun waarduAllahi wasiAAatun innama yuwaffa assabiroonaajrahum bighayri hisab
Katakanlah: “Wahai hamba-hambaKu yang beriman! Bertaqwalah kepada Tuhan kamu. Orang-orang yang berbuat baik di dunia ini akan beroleh kebaikan. Dan bumi Allah ini luas. Sesungguhnya orang-orang yang bersabarlah sahaja yang akan disempurnakan pahala mereka dengan tidak terkira”.
Say : “O you My servants who believe! Be conscious of your Lord. those who do Good Works in this Life shall receive a good reward. And Allah?s earth is vast. Truly those who endure with fortitude in adversity shall be Rewarded without measure”.
Empunya Plan Ekonomi yang baik, dia Menang atas bumi Allah.
Macam Tun Mahathir.
Salam Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
Wahai saudara2 yang berpegang kepada ajaran Agama Islam sebenar, iaitu yang bukan berpengang kepada Islam sebagai Parti (PAS) ….. Kita ‘Selamatkan Malaysia’ dari mereka yang membahayakan umat Melayu, yang merosakkan kesucian Agama Islam dan yang memusnahkan maruah bangsa dan negara.
Takbir!……….. Allahu Akbar.
Dear bro AbdulAzizOmar
1-All the evidences for us to believe in the hadis has been provided by so many but it does not impact on you I don’t see how any other contribution from me can make a difference.Your mind is all made up.I find that your Rashad Khalifah translation is too simplistic and quite different from mine.Maybe both of us should get a second opinion since we both don’t speak the language of the Quran.
2-It is not a problem though for me to study the Hadis because I trust this brain God have given me to do a IKOS-(wajaperak’s Ikut- kepala- otak-sendiri) whichever conforms with Quran will pass those that doesn’t will be given the boot.Afterall the Hadis is only no 2 to the AlQuran,so what is the big deal?
2-Why don’t you be positive towards these recorded accounts of the Prophet.You seem like you don’t want to hear even a bit of the stories of the Prophet,just because it happen to also contain some unreliable Hadis.You must throw the baby and the bathwater too.So much is the love that you have for a man whom you say you believe is also your model.
3-But on the other hand I find it strange this book of the old Testament,this many thousand years older book of Malachi seem to be acceptable to you?Is this book without corruption,do you not find therein many discrepancies?Then why on earth did Abdul kassim Muhamad quote the prophecy of the messenger of the covenant from therein?Is the Book of Malachi more relevant to you than the book telling about your own Prophet who have lived and struggle 23 years to proclaim this message,in a more recent time in full view of history compared to this Book of the Old Testament?
4-If it is a book that is inconsistent and full of discrepancies,now by your own standards as you set for the Hadis,shouldn’t this book too be totally rejected?In which case the prophecy quoted therein to substantiate Rashad Khalifa’s claim to be the messenger of the covenant is now rendered totally useless.
5-Even if you insist of holding on to this prophecy-the messenger of the covenant is suppose to come SUDDENLY to his temple..and come with full power…something only our beloved prophet Muhamad have fulfilled during the Isra’ when he was suddenly transported from Medina to The Temple in Jerusalem.Our prophet was the only messenger who had come and dominated over the whole of the biblical land with awesome power.Your ‘messenger of the covenant’,is on the other hand only someone I came to know through my participation in this blog .
5-I suspect that the only reason he(Rashad) must reject the Hadis is the fact other than that not having there in anything to support his ‘ messengeric’ dream ,it is even prophesing someone else,a man who shall come at the end of times to rule the world with justice and equity..the Imam al Mahdi.Someone who is not quite who Rashad Khalifa can expect to fulfill at the present.Hence why the Hadis and the Mahdi must be rejected at all cost?
6-Had there been anything there in he could use to substantiate his claims,trust me, he would surely have encouraged you to support the Hadis the way he had supported this totally irrelevant book of the Old Testament,the book of Malachi.
Thanks Tun
To AbdulAzizOmar,
I am quite curious from where did you derived this ideas from. Did you come up these radical ideas about Islam yourself or did you get it from other sources?
I try to find anti-hadith groups in the internet, and I found out there are only few of them. Basically, from their arguments, an average muslim will notice that this group have a limited knowledge of Islam and that they are creating a radical ideas diverging from the existing understanding of Islam.
The “main idea” that what have been uttered by the prophet Mohamed (s.a.w) other then the Quran has “no” value whatsoever defies logic.
I doubt very much that a sane or average Muslim will be swayed to this kind of thought and ideas. You can preach this kind of thing as you like but nobody will follow you.
In the very beginning of Islam, it is the good and exemplary character (akhlaq) of Mohamed (s.a.w) that attracted many to the religion of Islam. He is the model of good morality and good values to Muslim.
I think the anti-hadith group are those who either want to create their own lifestyle free from religion or those who want to dismantle the existing establishment of Islam.
You can take this idea to any Islamic forum in the whole world, other then the people who are ignorant of Islam, nobody will follow you.
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Salam kasih sayang sdrku. Sudin,
Bismillahirrahmanirrahim,
Kami berasa tidak perlu kita yang bersyahadat 2 kalimah berdebat dengan mereka yang terlalu cerdik dan terlalu pandai hingga sanggup minidakkan ‘ Muhammad Rasul Allah’ dalam kalimah syahadat..
‘Awal agama mengenal Allah(Zat sifat 20 NYA) dan dengan mengenalkan NYA barulah mengenal diri ( Zat Muhammad)’..
ADAM ( Alif Dal MIM) yang di Kun Faya Kun Allah Suhanahuwataala dari tanah, air, angin dan api tidak akan SEMPURNA tanpa Nur Allah ( roh berwajah ) dan Nur Muhammad ( jasad berupa )… ‘
Adanya yang ghaib dan yang nyata di ‘tujuh lapis langit’ dan ‘tujuh lapis’ bumi dan segala diantaranya adalah Makhrifat ALLAH swt dan AlQuran diturunkan kepada Nabi ( Muhammad) segala umat manusia agar segala Suruhan NYA melalui Rasul NYA diamal dan ditaati oleh mereka yang sudah mengangkat sumpah ‘ Ashadu alla ilaha il Allah, Washadu anna Muhamad Rasul Allah’… tunggak kepada Rukun Islam yang lima..Amin
Barulah seorang Islam itu mampu menerima Rukun Iman yang enam.. Amin
Percaya kepada Allah Swt
Percaya kepada Malaikat
Percaya kepada Nabi dan Rasul
Percayan kepada Kitab
Percaya pada hari Kiamat
Percayakan kepada Qodha dan Kada’
Tanpa Syahadat ( 2 kalimah) tidak lengkaplah dan sempurna lah perakuan Iman pada Islam nya..Amin
Kami, hamba yang lemah tidak mampu melawan ‘kekuatan’ syaitan yang telah bersumpah untuk menyesatkan anak2 Adam.
Hanya kepada Muhammad s.a.w, Nabi akhir zaman(tiada nabi selepas Muhamad s.a.w.), kami berselawat dan kehadrat Allah s.w.t. kami serahkan segala zikir (pujian) dan kejayaan( Allah swt yang ‘Kun Faya Kun’ kan) agar diberi kemenangan dan kesenangan dalam segala pergerakan Nafsu didunia fana’ ini dan urusan Iman kembali keRahmatullah dan diterima sebagai ahli syurga tanpa mengharungi neraka jahanam.. Amin
Segala pujian2 hanya untuk Allah s.w.t , Selawat dan Salam hanya untuk Nabi Muhammad s.a.w. … Amin
Yang tersurat itu Pengetahuan, Yang tersirat itu Ilmu
ALFATIHAH, AMIN.
Ps.. Mohon ampun dan maaf kepada Ayahanda dan anakanda2 Chedet.cc.. bukan niat tunjuk pandai, hanya gerak hati berkata.
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Salam kasih sayang sdrku. Sudin,
Bismillahirrahmanirrahim,
Kami berasa tidak perlu kita yang bersyahadat 2 kalimah berdebat dengan mereka yang terlalu cerdik dan terlalu pandai hingga sanggup minidakkan ‘ Muhammad Rasul Allah’ dalam kalimah syahadat..
‘Awal agama mengenal Allah(Zat sifat 20 NYA) dan dengan mengenalkan NYA barulah mengenal diri ( Zat Muhammad)’..
ADAM ( Alif Dal MIM) yang di Kun Faya Kun Allah Suhanahuwataala dari tanah, air, angin dan api tidak akan SEMPURNA tanpa Nur Allah ( roh berwajah ) dan Nur Muhammad ( jasad berupa )… ‘
Adanya yang ghaib dan yang nyata di ‘tujuh lapis langit’ dan ‘tujuh lapis’ bumi dan segala diantaranya adalah Makhrifat ALLAH swt dan AlQuran diturunkan kepada Nabi ( Muhammad) segala umat manusia agar segala Suruhan NYA melalui Rasul NYA diamal dan ditaati oleh mereka yang sudah mengangkat sumpah ‘ Ashadu alla ilaha il Allah, Washadu anna Muhamad Rasul Allah’… tunggak kepada Rukun Islam yang lima..Amin
Barulah seorang Islam itu mampu menerima Rukun Iman yang enam.. Amin
Percaya kepada Allah Swt
Percaya kepada Malaikat
Percaya kepada Nabi dan Rasul
Percayan kepada Kitab
Percaya pada hari Kiamat
Percayakan kepada Qodha dan Kada’
Tanpa Syahadat ( 2 kalimah) tidak lengkaplah dan sempurna lah perakuan Iman pada Islam nya..Amin
Kami, hamba yang lemah tidak mampu melawan ‘kekuatan’ syaitan yang telah bersumpah untuk menyesatkan anak2 Adam.
Hanya kepada Muhammad s.a.w, Nabi akhir zaman(tiada nabi selepas Muhamad s.a.w.), kami berselawat dan kehadrat Allah s.w.t. kami serahkan segala zikir (pujian) dan kejayaan( Allah swt yang ‘Kun Faya Kun’ kan) agar diberi kemenangan dan kesenangan dalam segala pergerakan Nafsu didunia fana’ ini dan urusan Iman kembali keRahmatullah dan diterima sebagai ahli syurga tanpa mengharungi neraka jahanam.. Amin
Segala pujian2 hanya untuk Allah s.w.t , Selawat dan Salam hanya untuk Nabi Muhammad s.a.w. … Amin
Yang tersurat itu Pengetahuan, Yang tersirat itu Ilmu
ALAFAITHAH, AMIN.
Ps..
Salam Tun,
May i enlighten @makiedog1
“To all Islamic apologists who claim misinterpretation, evidence suggests it is irrelevant.”
1. I beg to differ with your claim of irrelevance. It is precisely because of misinterpretion that the Islamic world is in utter dismay. And it is in this sense, it is relevant, because only the right interpretation will witness the manisfestation of true Islam and hence further advancement of the human civilisation.
2. Your remedy however i fully concur. In order to allow for the correct interpretation, an individual must be allowed to study it freely, with a very capable tutor ( if the student is incapable or too young). This is however not possible under a climate where the interpretation is strictly controlled by religious “authorities”. There was even an attempt to stop Tun from interpreting Islam. Thus your proposed decoupling of Islam from institutionalized state policies will indeed work and is needed.
3. So while we approach the subject differently, we arrive at the same conclusion. And this is how Islam is supposed to be. There are many roads to heaven. There is no need to fight.
4. The spirit of learning Islam is the same as the learning of Science. The spirit of open questioning with logical and verifiable truths. It is only those who have not the answer, or who have not the right answer, who will prevent open questioning and honest answers, or emotionally react to questioning.
I thank you for your kind contribution. Peace to you.
Thank You Tun
Dear Tun,
What is wrong with knowing each other first before we can even discuss anything? If you are steadfast, we can always discuss about this in the future. I can’t make it the whole day for you. I am leaving KL Sunday morning. I asked you to join bukak puasa simply because I thought that would help to calm things down. You are very eager to meet.
I have got to say that I can’t make a day for you for discussion. I have many people who would happily volunteered to take my place. I know there are many people in Malaysia that believe the same way as I did. I am just reminding you that you and your mocking of God’s revelations will expose your hypocrisy.
As for now, we leave it as it is. We will continue to pen our thoughts here. In Tun’s blog, I have learn so much. I appreciate and thankful to God for allowing us to learn from one another. InsyAllah in the future, Tun will post more comment regarding Islam/religion.
People in Malaysia need the right guidance!
Thank you Tun
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Tun..Tun..semoga sudi mengizinkan ruangan..
Ribuan terima kasih saya ucapkan kepada saudara Zulkiflee dan saudara Parameswara2…Teruskan menulis..
Tun..saya dah tulis tentang Sidratul Muntaha di dalam Surah An Najm..Tetapi moderator tak lepaskan..Subahat??…:)
Tun..banyak kali dah Islam di serang oleh orang-orang yang mengaku Islam sendiri..Cuba lihat di dalam Perang Siffin..
ornag-orang Islam yang mendakwa dirinya Islam menentang Saidina Ali a.s sehingga menumpahkan darah..Siapakah Saidina Ali a.s?..Menantu Rasullulah s.a.w tu..Orang keempat di janjikan syurga oleh Allah!!..Hal ini di akui sendiri oleh penentang-penentang baginda..tetapi apa yang berlaku?..Lawan juga..tumpahkan darah juga…Itulah dia sikap yang di sebutkan oleh saudara Zulkiflee..Apa yang tidak di tambah oleh saudara Zulkiflee ialah pertanyaan ini..”Jadi..apakah mereka orang-orang yang kafir?”..Tidak..kata Saidina Ali a.s..”Mereka saudara-saudara kita yang derhaka”..
Kemudian Tun..apa yang berlaku di Padang Karbala??Mereka-mereka yang mengaku Rasullulah s.a.w itu Nabi dan Pesuruh membunuh cucu Nabi dan PesuruhNya!!..Tidakkah amat pelik??
Begitulah Tun..demikianlah kehendak Allah akibat pilihan tangan kita sendiri..Nah..Apa yang kita ada di sini??
Jawapan Tun kepada seorang intelek yang ‘kununnya’ ingin menjelaskan Islam itu gagal ( di mata beliau yang buta perut ).Samalah seperti perbuatan mereka di atas.Mengaku Islam tetapi menyerang prinsipal Islam.Apa takrifan yang hendak kita berikan kepada golongnan-golongan ini?Dan apakah kita hendak berlemah-lembut seperti ini?..
“Wahai anjing..sudikah anda menghentikan salakan anda kepada saya..? Dan sudikah anda tidak menggigit saya bila saya lalu di hadapan anda?..Ingatlah bumi ini milik Allah..Kita hanya berkongsi sahaja di bumiNya ini..” Dan jawapan kepada anjing tersebut kepada saya selepas amat lemah lembut ucapan saya agaknya bagaimana?..
NGAP!!!…He..He…:)
Begitulah Tun..Kita memperkatakan sesuatu mengikut keperluan sesuatu itu..Allah memberikan Islam kepada kita sejak zaman Nabi Adam a.s.Ini pun di pertikaikan manusia seperti yang di maksudkanNya di dalam Al Quran..
Yunus 19
Dan (ketahuilah bahawa) manusia pada mulanya tidak memeluk melainkan ugama yang satu (ugama Allah), kemudian (dengan sebab menurut hawa nafsu dan Syaitan) mereka berselisihan. Dan kalau tidaklah kerana telah terdahulu Kalimah ketetapan dari Tuhanmu (untuk menangguhkan hukuman hingga hari kiamat), tentulah telah diputuskan hukuman di antara mereka (dengan segeranya di dunia) mengenai apa yang mereka perselisihkan itu.
Perselisihan..Perselisihan..Dispute..and dispute..itulah yang berlaku sejak Allah menjadikan nabi Adam a.s..Iblis kata dia yang mulia..Nabi Adam tak kata pun dirinya yang lebih mulia dari Iblis..tapi Iblis sanggup masuk neraka kerana kedengkiannya kepada Nabi Adam a.s. Allah menemplak sikap Iblis ini di dalam Al Quran..
“Alangkah sabarnya mereka atas neraka!” (Al Baqarah 175).
Begitulah Tun..Dalam kita sibuk beribadah di bulan Ramadhan datang mereka-mereka yang mengaku dirinya Islam tetapi menyerang Islam..Tapi apa nak heran Mussalamatul Al Kazzab tu pun mengaku Nabi!!..
Begitulah Tun..buang masa sahaja layan golongan ini..Mereka kuat kerana di sokong Iblis dan syaitan seperti yang di beritahu Allah di dalam ayat Al Quran ini..
Firman Allah dalam Surah Al-‘ankabut(29), ayat 38:
“Dan setan menjadikan mereka memandang baik perbuatan-perbuatan mereka, lalu ia menghalangi mereka dari jalan (Allah), sedangkan mereka adalah orang-orang yang berpandangan tajam.”.
Ok Tun..Raya ni saya nak datang melawat Tun..Ribuan peminat Tun akan hadir sama..Tetapi di antara ribuan peminat Tun harap sudi ruangkan sedikit masa untuk saya..Boleh Tun?
Opss..Kasim Mohd Husain..
Jangan..
Jangan..
Jangan sokong membawa rebah!!
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to share this verses with readman.
The Quran Released Slowly To Facilitate Memorization
[17:105] Truthfully, we sent it down, and with the truth it came down. We did not send you except as a bearer of good news, as well as a warner.
[17:106] A Quran that we have released slowly, in order for you to read it to the people over a long period, although we sent it down all at once.
[17:107] Proclaim, “Believe in it, or do not believe in it.” Those who possess knowledge from the previous scriptures, when it is recited to them, they fall down to their chins, prostrating.
[17:108] They say, “Glory be to our Lord. This fulfills our Lord’s prophecy.”
[17:109] They fall down on their chins, prostrating and weeping, for it augments their reverence.
Tone of the Contact Prayers (Salat)
[17:110] Say, “Call Him God, or call Him the Most Gracious; whichever name you use, to Him belongs the best names.” You shall not utter your Contact Prayers (Salat) too loudly, nor secretly; use a moderate tone.
[17:111] And proclaim: “Praise be to God, who has never begotten a son, nor does He have a partner in His kingship, nor does He need any ally out of weakness,” and magnify Him constantly.
Just to ask you readman and everyone else. In 17:110, God stated that we shall not utter our contact prayers too loudly, nor secretly; use a moderate tone.
Then why do we utter the third and fourth unit/rakaat secretly? God asked us to use a moderate tone. Why can’t we even follow a simple instruction like that? Why can’t we just continue to utter the same tone as we utter for 1st and 2nd unit for 3rd and 4th? Do we obey God? Or do we obey Hadith here? Is it because hadith said during the time of Prophet Muhammad, during a war, they saw prophet utter secretly so that the enemy could not hear.
Okay, fair enough. If its true of what they said, then I need to ask you one question. Are we at war now? Are we at war when we are doing contact prayers at home? At mosque in Malaysia where there is peace? No war. Do we need to follow Hadith blindly? Just because they said so, we need to follow without even using our brain to think for a second?
This is the biggest problem in our culture now. Because we do not follow God’s revelations, instead we follow human made book.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
To brother Parameswara 2,
How could you believe in Hadith? Can you give me evidence from Quran that allow you to believe in Hadith besides Quran? Please, I want to see and understand your point of view. I have given you so much proofs from the Quran that God prohibits us from following conjecture. He wants us to follow what was uttered by Prophet Muhammad in the Quran. Nothing else. Why can’t you understand that?
Do you think by following Hadith, you are following Muhammad? You must be either ignorant or just blind. Because if you read Quran, from cover to cover, you will not find any ayat/proofs for you to follow any other book beside Quran. Muhammad utter all the revelations to the people. So if you really want to follow Muhammad, then follow Quran. Not hadith! Please…….
Its okay if you choose not to agree with me. That is your opinion. Everyone is entitle to theirs. I am not here to be a hero. I am just here to share the knowledge that I think I should share with people. Purely because I see something is wrong with our systems.
Just look at our Masjid. How many people/youth actually go to masjid? Are they attracted to go to Masjid? They do not. Why? Is it because of them not liking the religion or is it because they do not like the Imams/Scholars? Who has been preaching wrong teaching of Islam perhaps? Maybe because they just do not care about religion anymore. Or maybe God does not guide them. But what we are missing here is the effort made by them to encourage youth/people to go back to the religion of God. Which is one and only…There is no god except He, the Almighty, Most Wise.
People are scared to go to Mosque because there are too many rules/laws that are human made. Imams are preaching something that has got nothing to do with worshiping God but has got everything to do with human, stories from the past, sahabats, prophets, dead people but NOT GOD. Who do you think would want to go and listen to ‘hearsay’? They might as well be at home watch news or perhaps tv3.
There is no approach done by Imams/Scholars to educate our people about the greatness of God, the science of Islam, education on Islamic studies, make them know that God is near to them, allow them to express their feelings properly and authority can understand our teenagers way of life/thinking. These are very important factors in any society. When you educate your youth, you will be strong in the future. But did our Imams/scholars do this? What are they doing? They are busy calling people names and mocking each other just to prove their point and satisfy their ego.
They cant educate the youth the way its supposed to be done simply because they are not qualified. They go overseas, study arabic and get a degree from Al Azhar University and come back to Malaysia being a USTAZ/Ulama. Some got it from Pakistan, India, Syria, and Saudi. When they come back, they are allowed to preach to the youth about ISLAM. Everything they said, must be right. Why? Because they are graduates from Al Azhar. If they are so smart, then why our youth are so messed up? Why are they not living the life that was promised by Allah. Happiness in this life and in the Hereafter? Is it God that break His own promise, or is it because we are doing something wrong with out akidah?
Please ask yourself that questions. I pray that everyone of us here will understand eventually that Allah is too high to have any partners.
I pray and hope that our ulama can do their work properly. Educate our youth with proper Quranic teaching and not some hearsay from 1000 over years ago. Or else we will continue living in ‘HELL’.
InsyAllah we will share some more information again.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to answer to readman. There is no Surah in the Quran that allow you to follow 2 sources of law. According to God, ONLY QURAN must be preached. All the Talmud and the Christianity doctrine were human made. Just like Hadith and Sunnah.
(31:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[31:1] A. L. M.
[31:2] These (letters) constitute proofs of this book of wisdom.
[31:3] A beacon and a mercy for the righteous.
[31:4] Who observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and as regards the Hereafter, they are absolutely certain.
[31:5] They are following the guidance from their Lord, and they are the winners.
[31:6] Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith, and thus divert others from the path of God without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.
[31:7] And when our revelations are recited to the one of them, he turns away in arrogance as if he never heard them, as if his ears are deaf. Promise him a painful retribution.
[31:8] Surely, those who believe and lead a righteous life have deserved the gardens of bliss.
[31:9] Eternally they abide therein. This is the truthful promise of God. He is the Almighty, Most Wise.
[31:10] He created the heavens without pillars that you can see. He established on earth stabilizers (mountains) lest it tumbles with you, and He spread on it all kinds of creatures. We send down from the sky water to grow all kinds of beautiful plants.
[31:11] Such is the creation of God; show me what the idols you set up beside Him have created. Indeed, the transgressors are far astray.
I hope it will help you to make an effort to find more answers in the Quran. People who stop you from finding the truth from Quran are the evildoers. They are the enemy of God. In the Quran, there are answers. Many answers to why are we here? Why do we have to do zakat, Contact prayers, Fasting during Ramadhan, Haj and to believe in God, there is no god except He, The Almighty, Most Wise and to believe in the Day of Judgment. All we need to do is to find them with guidance from Allah. He is the teacher of the Quran. InsyAllah if you are sincere, He will guide you and help you to find the truth.
[31:22] Those who submit completely to God, while leading a righteous life, have gotten hold of the strongest bond. For God is in full control of all things.
[31:23] As for those who disbelieve, do not be saddened by their disbelief. To us is their ultimate return, then we will inform them of everything they had done. God is fully aware of the innermost thoughts.
[31:24] We let them enjoy temporarily, then commit them to severe retribution.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
I would like to share this verses from Quran with everyone here:
Only God Can Author the Quran
[10:37] This Quran could not possibly be authored by other than God. It confirms all previous messages, and provides a fully detailed scripture. It is infallible, for it comes from the Lord of the universe.
[10:38] If they say, “He fabricated it,” say, “Then produce one Sura like these, and invite whomever you wish, other than God, if you are truthful.”
[10:39] Indeed, they have rejected this without studying and examining it, and before understanding it. Thus did those before them disbelieve. Therefore, note the consequences for the transgressors.
[10:40] Some of them believe (in this scripture), while others disbelieve in it. Your Lord is fully aware of the evildoers.
[10:41] If they reject you, then say, “I have my works, and you have your works. You are innocent of anything I do, and I am innocent of anything you do.”
[10:42] Some of them listen to you, but can you make the deaf hear, even though they cannot understand?
Thank you Tun
Salam Tun.
To abdulazizomar,
Thank you for the kind offer to breaking fast together.
I’ll be more precise here, that the muzakarah I’m seeking is intended to discuss and hopefully resolve the numerous incriminating matters/issues which you have posted & published in Tun’s blog.
A meal during breaking of fast is more as an introduction between strangers, and with each having solat Maghrib to catch there will be no time for fruitful discussion, even on just one topic and you know it (do you?).
This weekend will be most appropriate if you can sacrifice one whole morning or one full afternoon after solat Zohor, in any mosque of your preference. Now if you can decide on the date and the mosque.
I do believe many Muslim bloggers who visited Tun’s blogsite will be keen to participate, beside ‘the few others’ that are coming with me. Masjid Negara, Masjid Jamek or Masjid W. Persekutuan is most suitable.
Hopefully that just reappeared Kassim Mohd Hussin can join in, and be a more responsible ‘preacher’ instead of continuing to remain anonymous. Don’t make use/speculate on other’s righteous belief in order to hide your cowardice to face reality, and worse still to instigate others not to be present!
Even ‘ayah Pin’ and the late ‘abuya’ initially dared to preach openly.
Please don’t be mistaken on the character ‘that anonymous infidel/kafir (taik)’ as name calling. Probably embarassing to you, but I’m quite optimist it is acceptable to many Muslims. Only you can make that nickname disappear.
Terima kasih ‘readman’ kerana menunjukkan ayat suci al-Quran yang terang2 membuktikan kekeliruan mereka.
Salam Tun,
To Tn AbdulAzizOmar & My other Muslim Brothers,
Pls avoid meeting people like Sudin, Parameswara2, Wajaperak etc.
If you do, you will be wasting your time. The umpteen years of brainwashing is taking its toll on them now, but if GOD willing it will not be forever.
May GOD Almighty guides them the right path, and for you; please soldier on with your good work and May GOD Almighty Bless you!
Semoga hidup dan mati kita bersama mereka yang berbakti hanya pada ALLAH.
LA ILLAHA ILLALLAH – Tiada Tuhan Melainkan ALLAH.
6,236 ayat dalam Quran,
Apakah ayat yg menyokong ,
Hadis Muhammad diluar Al-Quran?
Apakah ayat yg menyokong ,
Hadis Musa diluar Al-Quran?
Apakah ayat yg menyokong ,
Hadis Isa diluar Al-Quran?
Inikah? ;
[3:132] WaateeAAoo Allaha warRasoolalaAAallakum turhamoon
[3:132] Dan taatlah kamu kepada Allah dan RasulNya, supaya kamu diberi rahmat.
Rasul Allah; Musa[7:104], Isa[61:6], Ismail[19:54]
serta Ayat-Ayat ini,
[3:132]
[4:59]
[08:01]
[08:20]
[24:54]
[24:51-52]
[33:36]
[47:33]
[4:115]
[4:59]
Rasul Allah; Musa[7:104], Isa[61:6], Ismail[19:54]
Ternyata Ayat Al-Quran tersebut bukan Bukti Jelas/Kukuh/Mudah
untuk sumber Agama Allah(Islam) selain Al-Quran.
Jika Ayat Al-Quran diatas dijadikan bukti,
Hadis Muhammad diluar Al-Quran, (eg: Hadis Sahih Bukhari)
sbg Sumber Islam,
maka,
Hadis Musa diluar Al-Quran, Hadis Sahih Yahudi/Talmud
&
Hadis Isa diluar Al-Quran, Deuterocanonical
mungkin juga boleh dijadikan sumber Islam? Tentu Tidak.
6,236 ayat dalam Quran, mungkin ada satu ayat yang membenarkan Hadis Muhammad Diluar Al-Quran?
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to respond to Sudin. Please stop giving people nicknames. That is not good.
Believers Set the Example
[49:11] O you who believe, no people shall ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or make fun of your names. Evil indeed is the reversion to wickedness after attaining faith. Anyone who does not repent after this, these are the transgressors.
Maybe you reflect on this verse.
If you really want to meet, then maybe we can go bukak puasa together. This saturday if you are free. It is my treat. If you agree then please email me @abdul_aziz00@hotmail.com
InsyAllah we can continue our discussions.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
Wajaperak is so blind. He quote all the verses from the Quran and thought it was meant for Hadith then God tell you to obey Rasul.
When God mentioned obey God and obey Rasul, means you obey His revelations according to the Quran. Since the time of prophet, there is no Hadith, how could you follow Hadith? That is why I said you are just obsess with Hadith. You think by following Hadith, you are following Muhammad. Then if you follow Quran, who are following? Not Muhammad? Muhammad brought you which Kitab? When Allah stated clearly in the Koran, you insist on your way of believing in Hadith(word of men) over word of God(Quran). It is very difficult.
A lot of understanding of Quran has been distorted because many people interpreted many verses according to the Hadith. Scholars use Hadith to manipulate the true/clear meaning of Quran.
During the Prophet’s Life*
[33:56] God and His angels help and support the prophet. O you who believe, you shall help and support him, and regard him as he should be regarded.*
*33:56 The word “prophet” (Nabi) consistently refers to Muhammad only when he was alive. Satan used this verse to entice the Muslims into commemorating Muhammad, constantly, instead of commemorating God as enjoined in 33:41-42.
[33:57] Surely, those who oppose God and His messenger, God afflicts them with a curse in this life, and in the Hereafter; He has prepared for them a shameful retribution.
This ayat has severely been corrupted by muslim scholars around the world. How could you mentioned Muhammad’s name every time of your life, when God stated all praise belong to HIM alone?
God and angels not only support and help prophet Muhammad, but also support and help mukmin out of darkness to light. God stated here clearly in 33:56 in order for us to help and support the effort made by him during his life time of preaching Islam. Now we need to defend and make sure Quran is preached to every corner of the world.
But you were wrong when you said this verse would mean that to allow you to commemorate his name day and night just like how you suppose to commemorate God instead. When Allah uses Nabi, it is when Nabi Muhammad was still alive and preaching Islam. Now that he is dead, how could you commemorate his name? Do you think by saying his name would make him help you during the Day of Judgment? Is that what you believe? You believe in intercession? You already duped by Satan to commemorate another entity beside Allah by misinterpreting this verse. I am so sad to see every Muslim today never did what Muhammad did. They instead created something new and attribute to Muhammad without his approval.
Please wake up and study Quran again. If Allah wants us to mention Muhammad’s name in our daily life, then we are making distinction among the messengers when Allah stated clearly that we are not allowed to make any distinction among them. We believe Muhammad is the messenger of God. God knows better than us. You do not need to remind Him of that. You should be certain of your God.
Maybe you should read the articles I have posted here earlier. Try to read again then maybe you understand better. When you read, put your ego away and be humble. Better still if you can read Quran with that spirit and attitude. Be sincere with God and do not find fault with Quran. The problem with you Wajaperak is that you do not believe in Quran 100%. You know Quran is the Kitab for us and what not but you do not believe 100%. You have the tendency to believe Hadith more. For you, without Hadith, you could never understand Quran. If you stick to that reasoning, then I can tell you,
‘sampai mati pun, you tak akan paham Quran’
Because you already put a reason and doubt there. There are many people who doubt Quran just like those who do not believe in God’s revelations. And sadly, you are one of them. You busy defending Hadith and calling people kafir. You yourself mocking Quran and have doubt about it but you think you are defending Islam? hahahahaha…what a crazy world we are living in.
Tun, I got to say that I am saddened by their mocking and calling me names. But I have to face it. Even though God asked us to debate in the nicest manner and not be arrogant. I would love to see your point of view in this.
In Malaysia it may be very sensitive. Maybe its due to jealousy or God knows what. When someone is telling you to believe in Quran and study Quran and preach Quran, you should be cool about it. But somehow in Malaysia, that is not sufficient. In Malaysia, you need majlis ulamak, hadith, then Quran. Majlis ulamak and hadith are 2 important factors than the Quran itself.
Sometimes I wish God could send disaster to the world then maybe everyone else would believe in the Quran 100%. But all the community went through that before. Many community received disaster from God then only they believe in Quran. Some still continue to go astray and follow word of men over word of God. Miserable indeed.
Thank you Tun
Assalamu’alaikum Tun
izinkan saya mengulas saudara wajaperak,Haji Amin Tan,Samuraimelayu,Parameswara2,Sudin dan saudara-saudara kita yg gigih menentang fahaman sesat golongan anti-hadis,… kekafiran yg begitu berleluasa menentang Ajaran Suci Islam sejak awal penciptaan Nabi Adam alaihissalam tidak akan putus sehingga kiamat.
saudara-saudara sekelian telah dgn gigih membantah secara akademik komen-komen anti-hadis yg bagai menggulung kepingan kertas Al Quran menjadi panah-panah syaitan untuk menyerang Kemuliaan Rasulullah s.a.w,Sunnah dan Hadis Nya.tapi izinkan saya berkongsi pesanan Amirul Mukminin Imam Ali Karamallahuwahjhahu kpd para perunding nya ketika akan menghadapi utusan-utusan Muawiyah:
“kegigihan mereka dalam mempertahankan kebatilan jauh melebihi kegigihan kalian dalam mempertahankan kebenaran.”
sepertimana Demokrasi dalam berNegara telah melahirkan musuh-musuh besar Bangsa Melayu seperti LKY,LKS,Karpal hingga anai-anai seperti ekompute,d.tan dan yg lain nya,..begitu juga Demokrasi dalam ber Agama telah melahirkan pula golongan ajaran sesat seperti anti-hadis,Ayah Pin dan sebagai nya.hingga JAKIM sendiri pun menjadi suatu Badan yg tidak berhemah sebab sudah di-Demoralised dgn berita-berita yg disensasikan oleh media-media.
demokrasi tanpa disiplin adalah masaalah terbesar Negara dan Umat Islam.sebab itu LKY yg seharus kita penjarakan atau halau balik ke Negara asal nya,hari ini menjadi Negarawan ulong yg disanjung didunia kafir.sebab itu Karpal dan LKS masih bebas berkeliaran menggonggong dan menjelir lidah ke arah kita.
dan kaum anti-hadis,yg seharus nya kita perangi sebagai sebagian dari diayah yahudi untuk men-diskredit Nabi Muhammad Rasulullah s.a.w,hari ini kita terpaksa bertegang-urat dgn mereka secara ilmiah.
mempertahankan Hak dan Kebenaran sejak dulu memang sangat sukar dan sekarang menjadi semakin sukar sebab kita membiarkan diri kita di pimpin oleh orang-orang dayus lagi pengecut yg begitu taksub hendak kelihatan demokratik dan adil.
bagi saya golongan anti-hadis ini adalah urusan Polis dan tanggungjawap kerajaan untuk menangani nya,sepertimana Karpal,Teresa Kok,Datuk Ambiga dan ekompute juga adalah urusan polis dan tanggungjawap kerajaan.terserah,mahu buang ke laut atau dipenjarakan atau,bagi yg tak degil,mahu diberi kaunseling,saya tak peduli.pokok nya,mereka ini tak boleh dibiarkan menimbulkan huruhara Agama dgn menyalah-tafsirkan Al Quran atau menghuruharakan Negara dgn demokrasi yg keterlaluan.
malang nya Negara kita terlalu lemah.pemimpin-pemimpin kita terlalu dayus.payung yg seharus nya melindungi Agama Islam,senyap saja…lalu beralih lah tanggungjawab mempertahankan Hak dan Kebenaran ke tangan individu-individu yg ada kesedaran dikalangan kita.ini adalah amat menyedihkan.
mungkin revolusi ala-Arab Spring boleh memberi kita Pemimpin-pemimpin yg lebih bertanggungjawap dan berdisiplin,lebih bermaruah daripada pemimpin-pemimpin yg akhlak nya telah rosak oleh rezeki haram haram dan rasuah.
terimakasih Tun.
Dearest Tun
1-Without the Hadis there is no way you could understand enough about the prophet to emulate him effectively as our ‘model’.Without the help of the Hadis your emulating the prophet is only lip service.
2-Please also study the strong surahs provided by bro wajaperak August 10, 2011 at 3:36 pm to support the Hadis.You must also not turn a deaf ear to our arguments ,be open always.There is nothing to lose.Except perhaps for a few here,the rest of us are all only learning.
3-But I do wish we Muslims practise more restraint in our arguments as I know the Prophet Muhammad SAW whom we want to emulate would definitely do.Let us just not follow the Prophet in superficial matters but more importantly in how we could show love and compassion in our intelectual discourses,even with the disbelievers as the Prophet would have done,as long as they have not threatened to endanger our lives.
4-Avicenna was born circa 980AD and that is about three hundred years after Hijrah in Bukhara,part of Persia then.He was already a hafiz by the age of 10.He was also an astronomer, chemist, geologist, Islamic psychologist, Islamic scholar,Islamic theologian, logician, mathematician, Maktab teacher, physicist, poet, and scientist. He is regarded as the most famous and influential polymath of the Islamic Golden Age.
5-His place of birth Bukhara then,rivaled Baghdad as a cultural capital of the Islamic world.The study of Quran and Hadis thrived in such a scholarly atmosphere.It is reported that Avicenna and his opponents had developed further Philosophy, Fiqh and theology.
6-In he had been a anti Hadis the muslim world would know.I agree that scientific matters are not in the Hadis it is because it is more about the sayings/accounts of our prophet who happen to know more about commerce than science.That does not make the Hadis irrelevant.
Thanks Tun
Dearest Tun
1-Bro AbdulAzizomar,without the Hadis there is no way you could understand enough about the prophet to emulate him effectively as our ‘model’.Without the help of the Hadis your emulating the prophet is only lip service.
2-Please also study the strong surahs provided by bro wajaperak August 10, 2011 at 3:36 pm to support the Hadis.You must also not turn a deaf ear to our arguments ,be open always.There is nothing to lose.Except perhaps for a few here,the rest of us are all only learning.
3-But I do wish we Muslims practise more restraint in our arguments as I know the Prophet Muhammad SAW whom we want to emulate would definitely do.Let us just not follow the Prophet in superficial matters but more importantly in how we could show love and compassion in our intelectual discourses,even with the disbelievers as the Prophet would have done,as long as they have not threatened to endanger our lives.
4-Avicenna was born circa 980AD and that is about three hundred years after Hijrah in Bukhara,part of Persia then.He was already a hafiz by the age of 10.He was also an astronomer, chemist, geologist, Islamic psychologist, Islamic scholar,Islamic theologian, logician, mathematician, Maktab teacher, physicist, poet, and scientist. He is regarded as the most famous and influential polymath of the Islamic Golden Age.
5-His place of birth Bukhara then,rivaled Baghdad as a cultural capital of the Islamic world.The study of Quran and Hadis thrived in such a scholarly atmosphere.It is reported that Avicenna and his opponents had developed further Philosophy, Fiqh and theology.
6-In he had been a anti Hadis the muslim world would know.I agree that scientific matters are not in the Hadis it is because it is more about the sayings/accounts of our prophet who happen to know more about commerce than science.That does not make the Hadis irrelevant.
Thanks Tun
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to share some articles and verses from Quran for everyone to read and verify for themselves.
What was the Prophet’s shahadah?
Undoubtedly, the prophet Muhammad preached: ‘There is no god beside God’ and it is very clearly mentioned in the Quran:
[37:35] When they were told, ‘Laa Elaaha Ella Allah [There is no other god beside GOD],’ they turned arrogant.
Undoubtedly also, the prophet Muhammad never preached the corrupt version of the Shahadah (statement of faith) cherished by the hypocrites:
[63:1] When the hypocrites come to you they say, ‘We bear witness that
you are the messenger of GOD.’ GOD knows that you are His messenger, and GOD bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.
Abraham was a messenger of God.
Moses was a messenger of God.
Jesus was a messenger of God. Muhammad was a messenger of God…
[3:144] Muhammad was no more than a messenger like the messengers before him. Should he die or get killed, would you turn back on your heels? Anyone who turns back on his heels, does not hurt GOD in the least. GOD rewards those who are appreciative.
How can some people still witness the messengership of Muhammad when he died 1400 years ago? Only God is everlasting, there is no god but God:
[18:110] Say, ‘I am no more than a human like you, being inspired that your god is one god. Those who hope to meet their Lord shall work righteousness, and never worship any other god beside his Lord.’
Those who love to cherish the corrupt version of Shahadah should reflect on the following verse of the Quran:
[38:65] Say, ‘I warn you; there is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme.
Please remember Muhammad never preached himself as god beside God:
[3:79] Never would a human being whom GOD blessed with the scripture and prophethood say to the people, ‘Idolize me beside GOD.’ Instead, (he would say), ‘Devote yourselves absolutely to your Lord alone,’ according to the scripture you preach and the teachings you learn.
Despite this Quranic fact, some people will still love to cherish the corrupt version of the Shahadah never preached by Muhammad. Some will even turn arrogant like the Meccan disbelievers 1400 years ago if they hear the Quranic Shahadah preached by Muhammad:
[39:45] When GOD ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But when others are mentioned beside Him, they become satisfied.
[37:35] When they were told, ‘Laa Elaaha Ella Allah [There is no other god beside GOD],’ they turned arrogant.
[37:36] They said, ‘Shall we leave our gods for the sake of a crazy poet?’
[33:62] This is GOD’s eternal system (sunnah), and you will find that GOD’s system is unchangeable.
[39:23] GOD has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent, and points out both ways (to Heaven and Hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for GOD’s message. Such is GOD’s guidance; He bestows it upon whoever wills (to be guided). As for those sent astray by GOD, nothing can guide them.
Thank you Tun…..
Dear Tun,
It seems that Wajaperak insist on calling me names and mocking me. I suggest you should read and study Quran more than what you are doing now. Allah is the teacher of Quran. He will guide you if He wills. You just have to be sincere with him. I do not agree with you and your believe simply because you do not follow Quran. You do not follow word of God. Instead you follow Hadith, word of men over word of God. How could I believe that? Please explain to me that simple question.
We are talking about akidah here. We are talking about our iman here. You cant play around with it just to please the scholars who have written thousands of Hadith ‘to support’ the Quran.
To brother Parameswara 2,
You asked me,
……let us ask him if AbdulAzizOmar had commited a terrible sin against Islam for not believing that our Rasullulah SAW was appointed by God to be our model?
I am shocked to get this question from you but when I read the second time, I realized that your eyes do not see, and your ear do not hear.
I ‘ve been given you the verse from the Quran and been telling you to believe in Muhammad. Can’t you read and understand English? All this while we have been debating? Of course I believe in Muhammad as our role model. I wish all of us could live in the time of prophet and see for our own eyes the right behavior of him regarding Islam and see which Kitab did he follow, Quran or Hadith.
I believe is the role model for,just like Yusof, Musa, Harun, Ismail, Ibrahim and other prophets as well. Muhammad was the last prophet but he is not the last messenger. A lot of people believe that there will be another man coming to this world to purify the religion of God to mankind. The Jewish, Christians, and Islam all believe that.
[33:7] Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.*
[3:81] God took a covenant from the prophets, saying, “I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him.” He said, “Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?” They said, “We agree.” He said, “You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you.”
[3:82] Those who reject this (Quranic prophecy) are the evil ones.
[3:83] Are they seeking other than God’s religion, when everything in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly and unwillingly, and to Him they will be returned?
[3:84] Say, “We believe in God, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters.”
So for your record brother, I believe in all the prophets, and of course prophet Muhammad as well. He brought me Al Quran. The best ever Kitab. Please read al Quran. Put aside our differences because of Hadith. Islam is not longer Islam that follow the Quran. Today’s Islam is following human made book. You are still in denial brother. You said people from those days believe in Quran and Hadith has brought them to light and success in this world. I do not believe that. Ibnu Sina and etc has lived during which time? how many hundred or thousand years ago? They get the science and maths in the studies not from Hadith. All of it from Quran. Hadith is no where near to be compared to the Quran.
Thank you Tun
Salam Tun.
Allow me to comment on abdulazizomar(aao/taik)’s half-hearted & incomplete reply to my earlier submissions about him.
Hi there abdulazizomar(aao/taik),
Your only response to my comments was to inform me you could not meet me during the fasting month, and you chose to ignore the other matters pertaining to your personality.
As anticipated, you seem to have ready excuse not to have the muzakarah during the fasting month. I hope it is not the instruction of your superior that you are not to meet anyone to discuss on your manipulations.
Fortunately I’m also from KL and as such I can make myself available for the meeting with just 1 day notice.
Since you’re going home 2 weeks before the Hari Raya, there will definitely be ample time for us to meet, which is any time before 17/08/11 and still it is 6 days from today. I just wish you can submit your entry on the invitation for the muzakarah soonest, and let’s hope Tun will publish it immediately.
No excuse now,eh?
Please fix the date and mosque, insyaAllah I’ll be there with ‘a few others’. The time is preferably after solat Asar.
Hopefully abdulazizomar(aao) really exists so that I can consider on the necessity to apologise and ask for forgiveness for creating ‘that anonymous infidel/kafir(taik)’ character.
I wish to give this humble advice, ”stop washing your dirty linen in public”.
Tun..Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
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[[abdazizomar
I need to clarify one thing here. I am not against Muhammad here]]
He is against our prophet Rasullulah s.a.w indeed..See from these score’s of verses from Al Quran no less..
Oleh itu bertakwalah kamu kepada Allah dan perbaikilah keadaan perhubungan di antara kamu, serta taatlah kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya, jika betul kamu orang yang beriman. [al-Anfal 08:01]
Wahai orang yang beriman! Taatlah kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya dan janganlah kamu berpaling daripadanya, sedang kamu mendengar [al-Anfal 08:20]
Kemudian jika kamu berbantah-bantah (berselisihan) dalam sesuatu perkara, maka hendaklah kamu mengembalikannya kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya – jika kamu benar beriman kepada Allah dan Hari Akhirat. Yang demikian adalah lebih baik (bagi kamu), dan lebih elok pula kesudahannya. [al-Nisa’ 4:59]
Dan taatlah kamu kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya, supaya kamu diberi rahmat. [‘Ali Imran 3:132]
Dan jika kamu taat kepadanya (Muhammad) nescaya kamu beroleh hidayah petunjuk. [al-Nur 24:54]
Dan sesiapa yang taat kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya, dan takut melanggar perintah Allah serta menjaga dirinya jangan terdedah kepada azab Allah maka merekalah orang yang beroleh kemenangan. [al-Nur 24:51-52]
Dan sesiapa yang tidak taat kepada hukum Allah dan Rasul-Nya maka sesungguhnya ia telah sesat dengan kesesatan yang jelas nyata. [al-Ahzab 33:36].
Wahai orang yang beriman! Taatlah kepada Allah dan taatlah kepada Rasul, dan janganlah kamu batalkan amal-amal kamu! [Muhammad 47:33].
Dan sesiapa yang menentang Rasulullah sesudah terang nyata kepadanya kebenaran petunjuk (yang dibawanya) dan dia pula mengikut jalan yang lain dari jalan orang yang beriman, kami akan memberikannya kuasa untuk melakukan (kesesatan) yang dipilihnya dan (pada Hari Akhirat kelak) Kami akan memasukkannya ke dalam Neraka Jahanam dan Neraka Jahanam itu adalah seburuk-buruk tempat kembali. [al-Nisa’ 4:115].
Firman Allah bermaksud, “Wahai orang-orang yang beriman, taatlah kamu kepada Allah dan taatlah kamu kepada Rasulullah dan kepada “Ulil-Amri” (orang-orang yang berkuasa) dari kalangan kamu. Kemudian jika kamu berbantah-bantah (berselisihan) dalam sesuatu perkara, maka hendaklah kamu mengembalikannya kepada (Kitab) Allah (Al-Quran) dan (Sunnah) RasulNya – jika kamu benar beriman kepada Allah dan hari akhirat. Yang demikian adalah lebih baik (bagi kamu), dan lebih elok pula kesudahannya.” (An-Nisa’ ayat 59)
Tun..I think it is suffice for even one word,let alone a sentence in commanding Al Quran verses for us to follows.But this man is strungly delusional that is a lot more “strongly delusional”…
He claimed that he follows Al Quran.My questions about how he read them he chose to ignores and definetely could not and impotently cannot performed in answering.He refuses to admit that the first Surah is Al Alaq of only seven verse, later it becomes 19 ayat..Why it becomes 19 ayat he could not fathomed..Why it is located at the back and not infront of the mashaf he cannot says..Al Fatihah was Nuzul a bit later as the first complete verse.Why Ummul Kitab is at the opening of Mashaf he again could not understands..
Tun..Rasullulah ascension in Mikraj is not mentioned detailed
in Al Quran but Allah acknowledeges this event in Surah An Najm in my previous post..Here is a man whom kununnya follows Al quran to the letter yet he defies Mikraj..Rasullulah s.a.w ascension to Sidratul Muntaha..Oh..
How he is going to explains my beloved Rasullulah s.a.w presence at Sidratul Muntaha and was given the command of Solah from 50 to 5 is truly shows how he is manipulating Al Quran to his despicable deed..
Tun..this man claimed that my beloved Rasullulah s.a.w as plain Muhammad..Which muhammad he is talking about? If he talked about Muhammad Rasullulah s.a.w then he must follows this..
“Sesungguhnya Allah S.W.T. dan para Malaikat-Nya berselawat kepada Nabi. Maka, wahai mereka yang beriman berselawatlah kamu kepadanya dan ucaplah salam penghormatan kepadanya dengan sebaik selawat dan salam.” (Surah Al-Ahzab:56)
This delusional man clearly contradicted Allah commmandment..Allah says everytime you mentioned Muhammad you must praise him Sallaulah Alahai Wassallam..
And here is a man who claimed that he follows Al Quran to the letter..Sigh…
Tun..the hatred of kafirian towards Islam is neverending..This have been stated clearly in Al Quran numerous time.The self belief kafirians that they could shake the Islamic foundation by making self proclaimed “muslimin” attacking Islam from within is not..I repeat is not..and I repeat again..Is not withstanding..
In Baghdad few centuries ago,Monggol attacked pillages,killed and murdered at least 70,000 muslimin..Muslimin were killed,murdered and slaughtered again in Jerusalem by thousands upon thousands..And yet again quite recently in Zepa and Sebrenica at least 8,000 muslimin were foully killed..
Tun..in the midst of killing the muslimin the kafirian most often then not uttered this contempt..
Where is your Allah..? Where is your Muhammad s.a.w ?
Why don’t they come to your rescue??
Allah alone have replied this in Al Quran…
Al Hijr
Biarkanlah mereka (di dunia ini) makan dan bersenang-senang dan dilalaikan oleh angan-angan (kosong), maka kelak mereka akan mengetahui (akibat perbuatan mereka).
Tun..Allah willed our life the way it is..We have been given ample reasoning and understanding meaning Allah did not enforce Allah willed against our will..It is up to us to choose..
Are we going to choose against the very Creator?..Or we are going to submit willingly??
We are only responsible for our own deed..
All these is amply revealed in Al Quran..
I am summing it up with a verse from Surah Al Haj..
“Yang buta itu bukanlah mata..Tetapi hati yang di dalam dada”..
And from Surah Al An’Am
[104]
(Katakanlah wahai Muhammad): “Sesungguhnya telah datang kepada kamu keterangan-keterangan (dalil-dalil dan bukti) dari Tuhan kamu; oleh itu sesiapa melihat (kebenaran itu serta menerimanya) maka faedahnya terpulang kepada dirinya sendiri, dan sesiapa buta (dan enggan menerimanya) maka bahayanya tertimpalah ke atas dirinya sendiri. Dan tiadalah aku berkewajipan menjaga dan mengawasi kamu”.
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..You are one of few muslimin patron..Stay with us..Till the end..
Tun..Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
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[[abdazizomar
I need to clarify one thing here. I am not against Muhammad here]]
He is against our prophet Rasullulah s.a.w indeed..See from these score’s of verses from Al Quran no less..
Oleh itu bertakwalah kamu kepada Allah dan perbaikilah keadaan perhubungan di antara kamu, serta taatlah kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya, jika betul kamu orang yang beriman. [al-Anfal 08:01]
Wahai orang yang beriman! Taatlah kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya dan janganlah kamu berpaling daripadanya, sedang kamu mendengar [al-Anfal 08:20]
Kemudian jika kamu berbantah-bantah (berselisihan) dalam sesuatu perkara, maka hendaklah kamu mengembalikannya kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya – jika kamu benar beriman kepada Allah dan Hari Akhirat. Yang demikian adalah lebih baik (bagi kamu), dan lebih elok pula kesudahannya. [al-Nisa’ 4:59]
Dan taatlah kamu kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya, supaya kamu diberi rahmat. [‘Ali Imran 3:132]
Dan jika kamu taat kepadanya (Muhammad) nescaya kamu beroleh hidayah petunjuk. [al-Nur 24:54]
Dan sesiapa yang taat kepada Allah dan Rasul-Nya, dan takut melanggar perintah Allah serta menjaga dirinya jangan terdedah kepada azab Allah maka merekalah orang yang beroleh kemenangan. [al-Nur 24:51-52]
Dan sesiapa yang tidak taat kepada hukum Allah dan Rasul-Nya maka sesungguhnya ia telah sesat dengan kesesatan yang jelas nyata. [al-Ahzab 33:36].
Wahai orang yang beriman! Taatlah kepada Allah dan taatlah kepada Rasul, dan janganlah kamu batalkan amal-amal kamu! [Muhammad 47:33].
Dan sesiapa yang menentang Rasulullah sesudah terang nyata kepadanya kebenaran petunjuk (yang dibawanya) dan dia pula mengikut jalan yang lain dari jalan orang yang beriman, kami akan memberikannya kuasa untuk melakukan (kesesatan) yang dipilihnya dan (pada Hari Akhirat kelak) Kami akan memasukkannya ke dalam Neraka Jahanam dan Neraka Jahanam itu adalah seburuk-buruk tempat kembali. [al-Nisa’ 4:115].
Firman Allah bermaksud, “Wahai orang-orang yang beriman, taatlah kamu kepada Allah dan taatlah kamu kepada Rasulullah dan kepada “Ulil-Amri” (orang-orang yang berkuasa) dari kalangan kamu. Kemudian jika kamu berbantah-bantah (berselisihan) dalam sesuatu perkara, maka hendaklah kamu mengembalikannya kepada (Kitab) Allah (Al-Quran) dan (Sunnah) RasulNya – jika kamu benar beriman kepada Allah dan hari akhirat. Yang demikian adalah lebih baik (bagi kamu), dan lebih elok pula kesudahannya.” (An-Nisa’ ayat 59)
Tun..I think it is suffice for even one word,let alone a sentence in commanding Al Quran verses for us to follows.But this man is strungly delusional that is a lot more “strongly delusional”…
He claimed that he follows Al Quran.My questions about how he read them he chose to ignores and definetely could not and impotently cannot performed in answering.He refuses to admit that the first Surah is Al Alaq of only seven verse, later it becomes 19 ayat..Why it becomes 19 ayat he could not fathomed..Why it is located at the back and not infront of the mashaf he cannot says..Al Fatihah was Nuzul a bit later as the first complete verse.Why Ummul Kitab is at the opening of Mashaf he again could not understands..
Tun..Rasullulah ascension in Mikraj is not mentioned detailed
in Al Quran but Allah acknowledeges this event in Surah An Najm in my previous post..Here is a man whom kununnya follows Al quran to the letter yet he defies Mikraj..Rasullulah s.a.w ascension to Sidratul Muntaha..Oh..
How he is going to explains my beloved Rasullulah s.a.w presence at Sidratul Muntaha and was given the command of Solah from 50 to 5 is truly shows how he is manipulating Al Quran to his despicable deed..
Tun..this man claimed that my beloved Rasullulah s.a.w as plain Muhammad..Which muhammad he is talking about? If he talked about Muhammad Rasullulah s.a.w then he must follows this..
“Sesungguhnya Allah S.W.T. dan para Malaikat-Nya berselawat kepada Nabi. Maka, wahai mereka yang beriman berselawatlah kamu kepadanya dan ucaplah salam penghormatan kepadanya dengan sebaik selawat dan salam.” (Surah Al-Ahzab:56)
This delusional man clearly contradicted Allah commmandment..Allah says everytime you mentioned Muhammad you must praise him Sallaulah Alahai Wassallam..
And here is a man who claimed that he follows Al Quran to the letter..Sigh…
Tun..the hatred of kafirian towards Islam is neverending..This have been stated clearly in Al Quran numerous time.The self belief kafirians that they could shake the Islamic foundation by making self proclaimed “muslimin” attacking Islam from within is not..I repeat is not..and I repeat again..Is not withstanding..
In Baghdad few centuries ago,Monggol attacked pillages,killed and murdered at least 70,000 muslimin..Muslimin were killed,murdered and slaughtered again in Jerusalem by thousands upon thousands..And yet again quite recently in Zepa and Sebrenica at least 8,000 muslimin were foully killed..
Tun..in the midst of killing the muslimin the kafirian most often then not uttered this contempt..
Where is your Allah..? Where is your Muhammad s.a.w ?
Why don’t they come to your rescue??
Allah alone have replied this in Al Quran…
Al Hijr
Biarkanlah mereka (di dunia ini) makan dan bersenang-senang dan dilalaikan oleh angan-angan (kosong), maka kelak mereka akan mengetahui (akibat perbuatan mereka).
Tun..Allah willed our life the way it is..We have been given ample reasoning and understanding meaning Allah did not enforce Allah willed against our will..It is up to us to choose..
Are we going to choose against the very Creator?..Or we are going to submit willingly??
We are only responsible for our own deed..
All these is amply revealed in Al Quran..
I am summing it up with a verse from Surah Al Haj..
“Yang buta itu bukanlah mata..Tetapi hati yang di dalam dada”..
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..You are one of few muslimin patron..Stay with us..Till the end..
Dear Tun,
The question raised by Dr Syed was that he could not find any Islamic state in the world that could agree to one Islamic law and always have dispute among them. If he blames Islam then of course he is wrong. But if he blames the Muslim leaders, then I must say that he is correct.
To you Dr Syed, I want to share with you this articles about Syaria Law. Please read and feel free to respond to it. InsyAlllah this article would help you to understand better of the actual problem that causing Muslim countries to go backwards.
What does Sharia mean?
Sharia in Arabic means “way” or “path” and is considered the sacred law of traditional Islam. Sharia is derived from two primary sources of Islamic law: the divine revelations set forth in the Quran, and the sayings and deeds attributed to Prophet Muhammad collected in Hadith books. Islamic jurisprudence interprets and extends the application of Sharia to questions not directly addressed in the primary sources by including secondary sources. These secondary sources usually include the consensus of religious scholars based on their interpretation of the Quran and hadith.
The Muslim world differs as to what exactly Sharia entails. Modernists, traditionalists and fundamentalists all hold different views of Sharia, as do adherents to different schools of Islamic thought and scholarship. Different countries and cultures have varying interpretations of Sharia as well.
So we see that the source of all sects, divisions and conflicts in Islamic countries is based on the Sharia because it does not make use of the Quran alone. Instead it heavily weighs on hadith where people can find loopholes to justify their decisions on the subject matter. On the other hand, God says that the Quran is clear, easy to understand and it has all the details we need for our religious guidance.
[12:111] In their history, there is a lesson for those who possess intelligence. This is not fabricated HADITH; this (Quran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a beacon and mercy for those who believe.
Sharia laws based on hadith are problematic
Man-made laws that conflict with God’s revelations in the Quran cannot be Islamic. They are a burden on Muslims. They are a burden on Islam. They are divisive. They do not represent true Islam. They give Islam a bad name. They are the source of troubles, terrorism and backwardness in the so called Islamic countries. These laws are unjust and blasphemous against God and His messengers.
[31:6] Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless HADITH, and thus divert others from the path of GOD without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.
[4:60] Have you noted those who claim that they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you, then uphold the unjust laws of their idols? They were commanded to reject such laws. Indeed, it is the devil’s wish to lead them far astray.
When we reflect on Islamic history, this becomes more obvious. Consider this. For as long as the Muslims upheld the Quran, they led the world scientifically, technologically, culturally, socially, militarily, and economically. The borders of Islam extended from West Africa to China; into Spain and Eastern Europe.
With the collection of the attributed sayings and deeds of Muhammad into Hadith books some 200 years after Prophet Muhammad, a progressive deterioration of the religion of Islam ensued. Ironically, one can find in the hadith collections sayings of the prophet asking his followers not to record anything from him except the Quran!
Since the emergence and acceptance of these innovations as sources of guidance beside the Quran, the “Muslims” gradually became defeated, helpless and uneducated people. They went from the top to the bottom in a matter of a few centuries, and still cannot recover from this tragic situation.
The times of victory and pride can be brought back only if Muslims uphold God’s revelations, as exemplified by Prophet Muhammad. They must let go of the unjust Sharia laws that have no Quranic basis.
God’s laws are just and for all times
The Quran is the Final Testament. It is for all people, for all ages and for all times. Nothing can abrogate God’s words. Unlike the Hadith books, there is no contradiction or nonsense in the Quran. Upholding God’s revelations is the only way for the Muslims to get back on the “right track.” God promises happiness in this life as well as in the Hereafter. Therefore, heaven starts in this world if only we stay with God. It is time for the Muslims to re-examine themselves to see why they are in the situation they are, and what they can do to achieve God’s truthful promise.
[24:55] GOD promises those among you who believe and lead a righteous life, that He will make them sovereigns on earth, as He did for those before them, and will establish for them the religion He has chosen for them, and will substitute peace and security for them in place of fear. All this because they worship Me alone; they never set up any idols beside Me. Those who disbelieve after this are the truly wicked.
It is time for the God-fearing, silent majority of Muslims to speak up against the injustice done to true Islam, Submission to God’s will—the religion of strict monotheism: The religion of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad and all messengers and believers.
It is time to let God’s light shine on us to guide us in His straight path. Let us turn to God Alone and His laws.
[5:15-6] O people of the scripture, our messenger has come to you to proclaim for you many things you have concealed in the scripture, and to pardon many other transgressions you have committed. A beacon has come to you from GOD, and a profound scripture. With it, GOD guides those who seek His approval. He guides them to the paths of peace, leads them out of darkness into the light by His leave, and guides them in a straight path.
More verses to reflect: Quran vs Hadith
[10:37] This Quran could not possibly be authored by other than GOD. It confirms all previous messages, and provides a fully detailed scripture. It is infallible, for it comes from the Lord of the universe.
[39:23] GOD has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent, and points out both ways (to Heaven and Hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for GOD’s message. Such is GOD’s guidance; He bestows it upon whoever wills (to be guided). As for those sent astray by GOD, nothing can guide them.
[45:6] These are GOD’s revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?
[6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
I hope it may help you to understand Dr Syed.
Thank you Tun
Dgn Nama Allah, Tuhan Yg Maha Pemurah Lagi Maha Penyayang.
Salam Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
1. Agama Islam membawa kesajahteraan dan keselamatan
2. Negara Islam Malaysia, negara kita ini, setelah pejuang telah berjaya menyingkirkan penjajah kafir…… Insya Allah selamat, kerana pimpinan UMNO/BN bersandarkan kpd Agama Islam yang sebenar sehingga terbukti telah melonjakkan kesejahteraan dan keselamatan rakyat .
3. Malangnya, tanggungjawab bagi meneruskan kesejahteraan dan keselamatan rakyat oleh UMNO/BN telah dirosakkan sebahagiannya oleh mereka yang membawa fahaman yang salah
tentang Islam!
4. Amat malang lagi, mereka itu menggelarkan diri mereka tuan guru..lah, ulamak..lah, ustaz lah…………..
Ya Allah, peliharalah Negara Islam kami dari ‘mereka’ yang telah memesongkan kesucian Agama Islam, dimana Agama Islam Sebenar yang kami anuti ini membawa kesejahteraan dan keselamatan…………. Amin.
Dearest Tun
1-I tried to reason out with Bro Abdulazizomar that it is not the belief in the Hadis that had brought us to this level we are in now.That we Muslims achieved a glorious civilization that had delivered the classical Golden Age before inspite of this.All the great Muslims that have done us proud,Ibnu Sina,Al Ghazali,Al Kwarizmi,etc had no problem with the Hadis and were extremely successful people.
2-Allah have commanded us to emulate Prophet Muhammad SAW if we want to seek success in this world and the hereafter and there is no way we could have obeyed this commandment without the help of the Hadis.Being also a prophet, the Rasulullah SAW was also shown certain visions to guide the selected helpers the way to restore our dignity again in future.These are secondary matters God need not burdened all Muslims with ,to be put in the Quran.These optional leadership matters regarding the return of the caliphate is only found in the Hadis.
3-The fallout of the Muslims is mainly because we no longer have the unifying element we had during our earlier glory days,and that is the authority of the Khalifah.For as long as we had a powerful authority at the apex his authority will prevail over everyone of whatever sect they were in.The Khalifah also would not tolerate any ‘ulamak’ from emerging too strong and cause divisions in his dominion.So without this unnecessary divisive elements Muslims were able to focus on productive matters and excelled.
4-The early Muslim traders who believed in the AlQuran and the Hadis were so examplary that wherever they go their high morals based on the morality of the ‘former trader’ Prophet SAW they were emulating, had magically ‘opened up’ all the Pagans,Christians,Buddhist and Hindus to Islam on their own freewill with God’s help.
5-Without the central powerful Khalifah to oversee them now,the ‘ulamaks’ are free to misinterpret Islam at their whims and fancies for the sake of seeking worldly power,just like what the PAS ‘ulamaks’ are doing here in Malaysia.To make themselves truly indispensible they have made the otherwise simple religion to be a truly difficult religion that could not be understood without their expert and confusing guidance.
6-Muslims who have been made to reject the Hadis will find themselves very detached from the man God had appointed to be his mercy upon mankind.Without a true life model to guide us Muslims all over the world may not have a uniform practice to follow.There will be no brotherhood of Muslims without a common practice.
7-God have detailed the general ideas in the AlQuran,and had the Rasulullah SAW appointed to be his model, to show the details.Even a simple manual could be confusing without the correct training authority,what more the spiritual and divine matters of the AlQuran.
8-Insyaallah God will deliver us the rightly guided caliph again to restore whatever that may have been corrupted during ‘the absence’.When he appears again which I believe,based on very sohih hadis will be very soon,let us ask him if AbdulAzizOmar had commited a terrible sin against Islam for not believing that our Rasullulah SAW was appointed by God to be our model?
Thanks Tun
Taat Rasul Isa, Rasul Musa, Rasul Ismail
Surat Al-Munafiqun 63:1
Itha jaaka alMunafiqoonaqaloo nashhadu innaka larasoolu Allahi wallahuyaAAlamu innaka larasooluhu wallahu yashhadu innaalmunafiqeena lakathiboon
Apabila orang-orang munafik datang kepadamu (wahai Muhammad), mereka berkata: “Kami mengakui bahawa sesungguhnya engkau – sebenar-benarnya Rasul Allah”. Dan Allah sememangnya mengetahui bahawa engkau ialah RasulNya, serta Allah menyaksikan bahawa sesungguhnya pengakuan mereka adalah dusta.
Rasul Isa
As-Saff 61:6
Wa-ith qala AAeesa ibnumaryama ya banee isra-eela innee Rasoolu Allahiilaykum musaddiqan lima bayna yadayya mina attawratiwamubashshiran birasoolin ya/tee min baAAdee ismuhu ahmadufalamma jaahum bilbayyinati qaloohatha sihrun mubeen
Dan (ingatlah juga peristiwa) ketika Nabi Isa ibni Maryam berkata: “Wahai Bani Israil, sesungguhnya aku ini Rasul Allah kepada kamu, mengesahkan kebenaran Kitab yang diturunkan sebelumku, iaitu Kitab Taurat, dan memberikan berita gembira dengan kedatangan seorang Rasul yang akan datang kemudian daripadaku – bernama: Ahmad”. Maka ketika ia datang kepada mereka membawa keterangan-keterangan yang jelas nyata, mereka berkata: “Ini ialah sihir yang jelas nyata!”
Rasul Musa
Al-A’raaf 7:104
Waqala moosa yafirAAawnu innee Rasoolun min rabbi alAAalameen
Dan berkatalah Nabi Musa: “Hai Firaun! Sesungguhnya aku ini adalah seorang Rasul dari Tuhan sekalian alam.
Maryam 19:51
Wathkur fee alkitabimoosa innahu kana mukhlasan wakanarasoolan nabiyya
Dan bacakanlah di dalam Kitab (Al-Quran) ini perihal Nabi Musa; sesungguhnya ia adalah orang pilihan, dan adalah ia seorang Rasul, lagi Nabi.
Rasul Ismail
Maryam 19:54
Wathkur fee alkitabiismaAAeela innahu kana sadiqa alwaAAdi wakanarasoolan nabiyya
Dan bacakanlah (wahai Muhammad) di dalam Kitab (Al-Quran) ini perihal Nabi Ismail; sesungguhnya ia adalah benar menepati janji dan adalah ia seorang Rasul, lagi berpangkat Nabi.
Taat Hadis Rasul Isa, Hadis Rasul Musa, Hadis Rasul Ismail
A-li ‘Imraan 3:32
Qul ateeAAoo Allaha warrasoolafa-in tawallaw fa-inna Allaha la yuhibbu alkafireen
Katakanlah: “Taatlah kamu kepada Allah dan RasulNya. Oleh itu, jika kamu berpaling (menderhaka), maka sesungguhnya Allah tidak suka kepada orang-orang yang kafir.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to respond to Sudin who has invited me to meet him personally. Sudin, I live in KL. Which part of West Malaysia are you from? Perak? If you see we are fit to meet each other, then maybe one day we can meet InsyAllah after Raya. Because I ll be going back to my hometowne to celebrate the last 2 weeks of Ramadhan and Eid after that.
I am not scared of meeting you and your gang. I have God with me. People like you are the same as people who oppose Jesus when he was preaching Islam back then. He was telling them to believe in God alone and worship God alone and end up being killed. In the sight of people he was killed. But in the sight of GOD (Wajaperak, you should know that in the sight of GOD, he did not die, he went straight to Heaven) he did not die.
It is so funny you know to see and think that Islam in Malaysia is the best in the world. These ignorant people believe that. They think they and their ulama, JAIS and whatever you want to call them of each state are practicing Islam. Please la….are you kidding me? We can’t even agree to one rule to obey according to Islam. It is because we have many rules, human made rules. To Dr Syed, I must say that the reason why you cant find a good Islamic in the world is not because of the religion Islam. It is because the so called scholars and good muslims have 1001 rules and regulations regarding Islam on how to rule, and etc. They follow their own rules, human made rules. Of course you cant find a blessed Muslim country around the world. They are all fighting with one another, killing each other, bombing everywhere, kidnapping for ransom, calling others KAFIR but they are not, mocking GOD’s revelations, blaming others and never look at them in the mirror, and etc.
Let me share another story that just happened recently with JAIS. They raided the church. Caught many poor Muslims inside there who attended the event to get some money from the charity event. They are so arrogant that they go in with police and were rude when they raided without the permission of church management. Then when investigation done, they found out those Muslims were there because they were tired of waiting for help from Majlis Zakat in order to get some financial help.
What the hell were they doing? People pay zakat each year to be given to these people, not making it hard on them. These are so called Muslims, good muslims are actually playing around with zakat money. Islam teach us to give zakat each time when we harvest our paycheck. Which means every month or week in some countries.
For example if you RM 10,000 each month, then RM 250(2.5%) has to go to zakat. If you consume that money, it is haram for you. But how many people actually did that. Most of the people give zakat once a year because to make life easier to the government people or maybe they listen to Hadith. But Allah stated in the Quran that we must give zakat every time after we harvest our paycheck. To your common sense, can a poor wait one year to get the money to buy food for their children, clothes, ant etc. If they miss this year’s zakat, then can they afford to wait another 1 year for the money? But when they go to church because the Christians are very charitable compare to us, the JAIS get angry and raided them. Just because you can’t do your job properly for ensuring all Muslims are prepared financially for Ramadhan and Eid, you catch others who do it for the sake of God. Christians are good people too. There is nothing wrong with us taking charity from them. Just like there is nothing wrong you giving money to them.
Sudin, zakat is not practice correctly in Islamic world today. There are so many more things that we follow conjecture. We only guess. But when I tell you this, you may get offended. But you have to face the truth, it is there in front of us. You can see that all Muslims countries are in trouble now. Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel. God willing that one day we will meet and we can discuss more. But I hope you are ready to accept facts from Quran.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
It seems that these people are question word from Quran. It is so funny that they believe in Hadith so much more than the Quran. Its okay people,
if you want to stick to your Hadith, then go ahead. But I ll stick with the Quran alone.
I need to clarify one thing here. I am not against Muhammad here. You are your ignorant thoughts are just blind about the whole argument. It is because you people are so taksub with hadith, you see anyone write something against it, you say everyone is against Muhammad. But you do not understand the roots of the problem.
The problem here is that how sure are you that Hadith is really from Muhammad. Like how we already said earlier that Hadith was written 200 years after Muhammad passed away. I am not against Muhammad here. I do not say Syahadah the way you people say it because Muhammad himself never say that. If you read the whole Quran, you should know this. I showed you the Chapter Muhammad when Muhammad actually tell the people of the right Kalimah syahadah. He never mentioned his own name. You must understand that statement of fact and statement of faith are 2 different kalimah altogether.
GOD knows who are the messengers and prophets. You do not need to remind Him. What you should be certain is that, who is your GOD.
God said in the Quran, all praise belongs to him. He said also said in the Quran that we are not allow to mention any other names in our contact prayers. Muhammad followed exactly was was revealed in the Quran. Since he is obedient messenger, he must surely utter only what is necessary from the whole Quran. His private life is another issue.
It has got nothing to do with Islam. Every human being are given wisdom from Allah to lead their life according to God’s law. So when Muhammad was alive, he followed exactly what was sent down to him because his duty was to deliver the message to the people. So if he ever teach something different or new from the Quran, then he would have done something against God’s will. But Muhammad was a obedient servant of Allah so he delivered the Quran to us. But right now you people are busy defending Hadith as if Hadith is from Muhammad. Hadith are from Abu hurairah, Muslims, and etc and not Muhammad. Please understand that.
Readman mentioned about the Jews who followed the rabbis that wrote Talmud(hadith) of Moses to be followed. This exactly the same as we are following the Hadith in order to understand the Quran. The Jewish rabbis said that without referring to the Talmud, you would not be able to understand the Torah. They need Talmud to explain the details of Torah to the Jewish people.
Today with Muslim also same. The Ulama/scholars claimed that without referring to Hadith, muslims would not be able to understand the Quran. They must refer to the Quran first. They follow exactly the same thing that the Jewish rabbis did to the people of Moses.
But of course we are very egoistic. We do not say that we are the same because to us, they are kafir and we are not. So funny…..that we are doing exactly what they did.
You may call me names and mock me. But God knows the truth.
To you Amin Tan, those verse is from Quran. Are you mocking what God has sent down to us? What are you trying to prove here? Are you saying you know better than GOD because you have your Hadith? Do not be so arrogant brother. That is GOD’s revelations. To Him, all humans are the same. Does not matter what you want to call them. He is the Most Merciful. He created us all with the same purpose, to worship Him. Nobody knows the future. Only He knows the future. And only him can be the judge among us. Not you not me. But you with your ignorant attitude, mock the revelations.
To Sudin, you are another person who do not get the message as well. I am not here to fight against Islam. I am Muslim myself. But the funny fact about you people is that you cannot understand English. The proofs that I have showed you is from Quran. All of it are from Quran. If you do not agree with it, it is the same as if I say you do not agree with Allah. That is not my word. That is God’s word. I am just here to share with you. If you another Quran then refer to the same ayat for your own purpose if you do not trust me. But I doubt it that you refer to any. Because you and your ignorant attitude expose your laziness.
You must read Quran and the whole Quran. I ve shown enough proofs from all the verses. Many more InsyAllah in the future I will share again. But for now, I think its better to stop because it is hard when you speak/argue with those whose heart has been shield, eyes has been closed, and ears that could not hear.
I am sorry Tun for taking so much space of your blog this time around. These people are so ignorant, they do not believe that I am Malaysian. hahahahaha….so funny Tun. The paranoia that they are experiencing right now is just so funny to me. Anybody who questions Hadith, they claim those are enemy of Islam. But when they themselves mock Quranic verses, it is okay, they are defending Islam. Unbelievable! When you are obsess with Hadith, it is difficult to change your thinking and mentality. Your understanding of Quran must relate to Hadith. All of it. You are your ignorant argument will expose you eventually. Maybe not today. But I believe in 30-40 years from now, Islam will grow to a different level where people are embracing God’s religion. Not humad made religion. We are going back to embrace Islam as how it is supposed to be practiced. According to the teaching of Muhammad base in the Quran. InsyALLAH. Those who uphold any other resources beside Quran are wicked people. They mock God’s revelations and they take it in vain just like how you Amin Tan questions a simple ayat like the one in 2:62. Just like how ignorant Sudin is when question the Wisdom of Allah regarding His revelations. It is so funny to see how blind you people are. You people are busy defending Hadith as if Hadith is from Muhammad. Quran is from Muhammad. He brought Quran. Can’t you people believe that? If you love Muhammad then follow the Quran. Following Hadith is not following Muhammad but following abu hurairah, bukhary, muslims and etc.
Thank you Tun.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Tun..komen saya tentang saman di mana? Tun tak sudi mengizinkan? Tak pe lah..harap yang ini dapat keizinan Tun..
Tun..sebagaimana yang saya katakan..abdazizomar manusia yang delusional dan penuh contradiction..Dia mengakui surah ini tetapi tidak mampu menerangkan initipati kandungannya..
[[53:13] He saw him in another descent…Who saw what??..
How..this perception comes about??
[53:14] At the ultimate point…What ultimate point??
In the real intrepetation, the place is Sidratul Muntaha…even mention in the verse..Conveniently ignored by abdazizomar..
[53:15] Where the eternal Paradise is located…
What he meant to says?..That there is paradise not eternal..??
Tun ..this is just a few instances to showcase that the man is seriously delusional..he demanded other’s to come to his standards of belief but refused to come to the standard of this worldly Islamic belief..
In Al Quran we have been strongly reminded by sweet talked words..
Dan di antara manusia ada orang yang ucapannya tentang kehidupan dunia menarik hatimu, dan dipersaksikannya kepada Allah (atas kebenaran) isi hatinya, padahal ia adalah penantang yang paling keras.( musuh yang nyata )
(Al-Quran Al-Karim Surah Al-Baqarah [2] : ayat 204)
abdazizomar is islam enemy.Allah have clearly stated is as so..
None so blind but them who refuse to see..How apt..
Tun..mengapa??
Mengapa Tun menyakiti umat Islam di bulan Ramadhan yang mulia ini dengan membenarkan kafir ini menyerang kami??
Adakah Tun terlibat mendiamkan diri tentang kafir yang lagi satu ini??
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Cukuplah Tun..jangan kami di sakiti lagi dengan mereka-mereka yang menyamar sebagai orang-orang Islam sebegini..
Kepada Tuan Haji Amin Tan..Abd Samurai Melayu,Zulkifle Arif,Encik Sudin dan yang lain-lain membantah keras kekafiran..terima kasih..
Kepada yang diam membisu seperti syaitan bisu..
Anda fikirlah sendiri akan akibat perbuatan anda..
Tun..tolonglah kami kerana Allah..
Terima kasih:(
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Tun..komen saya tentang saman di mana? Tun tak sudi mengizinkan? Tak pe lah..harap yang ini dapat keizinan Tun..
Tun..sebagaimana yang saya katakan..abdazizomar manusia yang delusional dan penuh contradiction..Dia mengakui surah ini tetapi tidak mampu menerangkan initipati kandungannya..
[[53:13] He saw him in another descent…Who saw what??..
How..this perception comes about??
[53:14] At the ultimate point…What ultimate point??
In the real intrepetation, the place is Sidratul Muntaha…even mention in the verse..Conveniently ignored by abdazizomar..
[53:15] Where the eternal Paradise is located…
What he meant to says?..That there is paradise not eternal..??
Tun ..this is just a few instances to showcase that the man is seriously delusional..he demanded other’s to come to his standards of belief but refused to come to the standard of this worldly Islamic belief..
In Al Quran we have been strongly reminded by sweet talked words..
Dan di antara manusia ada orang yang ucapannya tentang kehidupan dunia menarik hatimu, dan dipersaksikannya kepada Allah (atas kebenaran) isi hatinya, padahal ia adalah penantang yang paling keras.( musuh yang nyata )
(Al-Quran Al-Karim Surah Al-Baqarah [2] : ayat 204)
abdazizomar is islam enemy.Allah have clearly stated is as so..
None so blind but them who refuse to see..How apt..
Tun..mengapa??
Mengapa Tun menyakiti umat Islam di bulan Ramadhan yang mulia ini dengan membenarkan kafir ini menyerang kami??
Adakah Tun terlibat mendiamkan diri tentang kafir yang lagi satu ini??
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Cukuplah Tun..jangan kami di sakiti lagi dengan mereka-mereka yang menyamar sebagai orang-orang Islam sebegini..
Kepada Tuan Haji Amin Tan..Abd Samurai Melayu,Zulkifle Arif,Encik Sudin dan yang lain-lain membantah keras kekafiran..terima kasih..
Kepada yang diam membisu seperti syaitan bisu..
Anda fikirlah sendiri akan akibat perbuatan anda..
Tun..tolonglah kami kerana Allah..
Terima kasih:(
Hi Tun,
To discourage “the culture of misinterpretation”, we should not selectively hide the important facts. Important facts have been left out from our history text books used in schools, resulting in children growing up as a group of ignorant people, acting in arrogance, thinking that only they have the truth.
GOD shows HIS full glory when human beings are at the weakest.
Nations met in Methodist Central hall for the First UN General Assembly.
Now a group of people stormed into the premise of the Methodists. What have we become?
May GOD have mercy on us.
Dear Tun,
May I comment on brother abdulazizomar who wrote the followings
///Surely, those who believe,
those who are Jewish,
the Christians,
and the converts;
anyone who
(1) believes in God,
(2) believes in the Last Day, and
(3) leads a righteous life,
will receive their recompense from their Lord;
they have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve. [2:62, 5:69]///
How can abdulazizomar equate Christians and Jews to Muslims. Christians and Jews do not practice rukun islam. They don’t say the dua kalimah syahadah. They don’t solat 5 times daily, they don’t fast dawn to dusk during Ramathan and they don’t go to Haj. Anybody who is not a muslim is defined as kafir by muslim. Whereas, those who don’t believe in God are called atheists. Furthermore, why are you so keen to identify Christians and Jews as muslims too when they don’t even recognize Mohammad as the Messenger of Allah and they don’t believe in Quran. Christians and Jews say Mohammad is not the Messenger of Allah and Al Quran is not wahyu from Allah but mere creation and concoction from Mohammad. Wajaperak has a strong reason to dispute you using strong language because of what you say as above is absolutely offensive to muslims.
You make all muslims of the world stupid when you say islam as practised by Rasullullah during his time is different from islam as practised today. Only Prophet Mohammad and you are correct because according to you satu kalimah shahadah is correct and Mohammada Rasullullah is wrongly added by us, so-called muslims of today including Tun, Wajaperak, Samuraimelayu, Parameswara 2, Sudin, Nikmat. Same thing goes to azan. You say the call of muslim prayer is the same as call for prayer by Christians and Jews, that is without Mohammada Rasullulah. You are truly ignorant, jahil tukir. The call for muslims prayer was decided by the muslims in Madinah and the wording and the nature of azan is exactly the same during that time until today. Nobody changes anything until today. Christians call to prayer by ringing bell, no azan. Jews call to prayer by blowing horn, no azan. Only islam calls to prayer by human voice. The person who calls to prayer is called muazzin and the best ever muazzin was the beloved Bilal the negro.
amin tan
http://www.iium.edu.my/deed/quran/malay/
Surah Yusuf(12)
ayat[1],ayat[2]
Alif, Laam, Raa’. Ini ialah ayat-ayat Kitab Al-Quran yang menyatakan kebenaran.
Sesungguhnya Kami menurunkan kitab itu sebagai Quran yang dibaca dengan bahasa Arab, supaya kamu (menggunakan akal untuk) memahaminya.
Surah A-li ‘Imraan(3)
ayat[7]
“Dan yang lain lagi ialah ayat-ayat “Mutasyaabihaat” (yang samar-samar, tidak terang maksudnya). Oleh sebab itu (timbulah faham yang berlainan menurut kandungan hati masing-masing) – adapun orang-orang yang ada dalam hatinya kecenderungan ke arah kesesatan, maka mereka selalu menurut apa yang samar-samar dari Al-Quran untuk mencari fitnah dan mencari-cari Takwilnya (memutarkan maksudnya menurut yang disukainya). Padahal tidak ada yang mengetahui Takwilnya (tafsir maksudnya yang sebenar) melainkan Allah.”
Surah Yunus(10)
ayat[37]
“Al-Quran itu diturunkan oleh Allah untuk membenarkan Kitab-kitab yang diturunkan sebelumnya, dan untuk menjelaskan satu persatu hukum-hukum”
Secara Teknikal, Al-Quran cukup untuk Agama Allah.
“Hadis Musa”
“Hal ataka hadeethu moosa”
Sudahkah sampai kepadamu hadeeth Musa? 79:15
Katakanlah (wahai Muhammad): “Taatlah kamu kepada Allah dan RasulNya. Oleh itu, jika kamu berpaling (menderhaka), maka sesungguhnya Allah tidak suka kepada orang-orang yang kafir. 3:32
“Waqala moosa yafirAAawnu innee rasoolun min rabbi alAAalameen”
Dan berkatalah Nabi Musa: “Hai Firaun! Sesungguhnya aku ini adalah seorang Rasul dari Tuhan sekalian alam. 7:104
Taat Rasul Musa. Taat Hadith Rasul Musa.
Hadith Musa yg dipercayai hanya didalam Al-quran.
Jangan ikuti Hadis Sahih Musa rekaan Yahudi iaitu Talmud.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to share a chapter from Quran with Wajaperak.
Sura 45: Kneeling (Al-Jatheyah)
Number of verses in Sura: 37
Order of revelation: 65
[45:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[45:1] H. M.
[45:2] The revelation of this scripture is from God, the Almighty, Most Wise.
[45:3] The heavens and the earth are full of proofs for the believers.
[45:4] Also in your creation, and the creation of all the animals, there are proofs for people who are certain.
[45:5] Also, the alternation of the night and the day, and the provisions that God sends down from the sky to revive dead lands, and the manipulation of the winds; all these are proofs for people who understand.
Which Hadith?*
[45:6] These are God’s revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?
*45:6-7 God condemns “Hadith” by name, and informs us that it is a blasphemous fabrication.
[45:7] Woe to every fabricator, guilty.
[45:8] The one who hears God’s revelations recited to him, then insists arrogantly on his way, as if he never heard them. Promise him a painful retribution.
[45:9] When he learns anything about our revelations, he mocks them. These have incurred a shameful retribution.
[45:10] Awaiting them is Gehenna. Their earnings will not help them, nor the idols they had set up beside God. They have incurred a terrible retribution.
[45:11] This is a beacon, and those who disbelieve in these revelations of their Lord have incurred condemnation and a painful retribution.
[45:12] God is the One who committed the sea in your service, so that the ships can roam it in accordance with His laws. You thus seek His provisions, that you may be appreciative.
[45:13] He committed in your service everything in the heavens and the earth; all from Him. These are proofs for people who reflect.
[45:14] Tell those who believed to forgive those who do not expect the days of God. He will fully pay everyone for whatever they have earned.
[45:15] Whoever works righteousness does so for his own good, and whoever works evil does so to his own detriment. To your Lord you will be returned.
[45:16] We have given the Children of Israel the scripture, wisdom, and prophethood, and provided them with good provisions; we bestowed upon them more blessings than any other people.
[45:17] We have given them herein clear commandments. Ironically, they did not dispute this until the knowledge had come to them. This is due to jealousy on their part. Surely, your Lord will judge them on the Day of Resurrection regarding everything they have disputed.
[45:18] We then appointed you to establish the correct laws; you shall follow this, and do not follow the wishes of those who do not know.
[45:19] They cannot help you at all against God. It is the transgressors who ally themselves with one another, while God is the Lord of the righteous.
[45:20] This provides enlightenment for the people, and guidance, and mercy for those who are certain.
[45:21] Do those who work evil expect that we will treat them in the same manner as those who believe and lead a righteous life? Can their life and their death be the same? Wrong indeed is their judgment.
[45:22] God created the heavens and the earth for a specific purpose, in order to pay each soul for whatever it earned, without the least injustice.*
*45:22 God granted us this life as a precious chance to redeem ourselves, denounce ancient alliance with Satan, and rejoin God’s kingdom.
Common Form of Idolatry: The Ego As A God
[45:23] Have you noted the one whose God is his ego? Consequently, God sends him astray, despite his knowledge, seals his hearing and his mind, and places a veil on his eyes. Who then can guide him, after such a decision by God? Would you not take heed?
[45:24] They said, “We only live this life; we live and die and only time causes our death!” They have no sure knowledge about this; they only conjecture.
[45:25] When our revelations are recited to them, clearly, their only argument is to say, “Bring back our forefathers, if you are truthful.”
[45:26] Say, “God has granted you life, then He puts you to death, then He will summon you to the Day of Resurrection, which is inevitable. But most people do not know.”
[45:27] To God belongs all sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. The day the Hour (Judgment) comes to pass, that is when the falsifiers lose.
Kneeling
[45:28] You will see every community kneeling. Every community will be called to view their record. Today, you get paid for everything you have done.
[45:29] This is our record; it utters the truth about you. We have been recording everything you did.
[45:30] As for those who believe and work righteousness, their Lord will admit them into His mercy. This is the great triumph.
[45:31] As for those who disbelieve: “Were not My revelations recited to you, but you turned arrogant and were wicked people?”
[45:32] When it is proclaimed that God’s promise is the truth and that the Hour (of Judgment) is inevitable, you said, “We do not know what the Hour is! We are full of conjecture about it; we are not certain.”
[45:33] The evils of their works will become evident to them, and the very things they mocked will come back and haunt them.
[45:34] It will be proclaimed: “Today we forget you, just as you forgot the meeting of this day. Your abode is the hellfire, and you will have no helpers.
[45:35] “This is because you took God’s revelations in vain, and were preoccupied with the first life.” Consequently, they will never exit therefrom, nor will they be excused.
[45:36] To God belongs all praise; Lord of the heavens, Lord of the earth, Lord of the universe.
[45:37] To Him belongs all supremacy in the heavens and the earth. He is the Almighty, Most Wise.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to share chapter 14 (Ibrahim) with our friends here. Please read….
Sura 14: Abraham (Ibrahim)
Number of verses in Sura: 52
Order of revelation: 72
[14:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[14:1] A.L.R. A scripture that we revealed to you, in order to lead the people out of darkness into the light – in accordance with the will of their Lord – to the path of the Almighty, the Praiseworthy.
[14:2] (The path of) God; the One who possesses everything in the heavens and everything on earth. Woe to the disbelievers; they have incurred a terrible retribution.
What is Your Priority?
[14:3] They are the ones who give priority to this life over the Hereafter, repel from the way of God, and seek to make it crooked; they have gone far astray.
The Messenger’s Language
[14:4] We did not send any messenger except (to preach) in the tongue of his people, in order to clarify things for them. God then sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills. He is the Almighty, the Most Wise.
Moses
[14:5] Thus, we sent Moses with our miracles, saying, “Lead your people out of darkness into the light, and remind them of the days of God.” These are lessons for every steadfast, appreciative person.
The Importance of Being Appreciative
[14:6] Recall that Moses said to his people, “Remember God’s blessings upon you. He saved you from Pharaoh’s people who inflicted the worst persecution upon you, slaughtering your sons and sparing your daughters. That was an exacting trial from your Lord.”
Appreciative vs Unappreciative
[14:7] Your Lord has decreed: “The more you thank Me, the more I give you.” But if you turn unappreciative, then My retribution is severe.
[14:8] Moses said, “If you disbelieve, along with all the people on earth, God is in no need, Praiseworthy.”
Egotistic Defiance: A Human Trait
[14:9] Have you not heard about those before you – the people of Noah, `Aad, Thamoud, and others who came after them and known only to God? Their messengers went to them with clear proofs, but they treated them with contempt and said, “We disbelieve in what you are sent with. We are skeptical about your message; full of doubt.”
Following Our Parents Blindly: A Great Human Tragedy
[14:10] Their messengers said, “Do you have doubts about God; the Initiator of the heavens and the earth? He invites you only to forgive your sins, and to give you another chance to redeem yourselves.” They said, “You are no more than humans like us, who want to repel us from the way our parents used to worship. Show us some profound authority.”
[14:11] Their messengers said to them, “We are no more than humans like you, but God blesses whomever He chooses from among His servants. We could not possibly show you any kind of authorization, except in accordance with God’s will. In God the believers shall trust.
[14:12] “Why should we not trust in God, when He has guided us in our paths? We will steadfastly persevere in the face of your persecution. In God all the trusters shall trust.”
[14:13] Those who disbelieved said to their messengers, “We will banish you from our land, unless you revert to our religion.” Their Lord inspired them: “We will inevitably annihilate the transgressors.
[14:14] “And we will let you dwell in their land after them. This is (the reward) for those who reverence My majesty, and reverence My promise.”
[14:15] They issued a challenge, and consequently, every stubborn tyrant ended up doomed.
[14:16] Awaiting him is Hell, wherein he will drink putrid water.
[14:17] He will gulp it down, though he cannot stand it, as death comes to him from every direction, but he will never die. Awaiting him is a terrible retribution.*
*14:17 When we rebelled against God, and agreed with Satan during the great feud (38:69), the angels suggested that we should be banished to Hell. But the Most Merciful decided to give us another chance to redeem ourselves. He said to the angels, “I know what you do not know” (2:30). God knew that many humans would have protested that they had no idea how bad Hell was. The awesome description of Hell in 14:17 and in 22:19-22 nullifies such a protest. Now we have a pretty good idea how terrible Hell is.
[14:18] The allegory of those who disbelieve in their Lord: their works are like ashes in a violent wind, on a stormy day. They gain nothing from whatever they earn; such is the farthest straying.
Worship Only the Omnipotent One
[14:19] Do you not realize that God has created the heavens and the earth for a specific purpose? If He wills, He can remove you, and substitute a new creation in your place.
[14:20] This is not too difficult for God.
On the Day of Resurrection
[14:21] When they all stand before God,* the followers will say to the leaders, “We used to follow you. Can you spare us even a little bit of God’s retribution?” They will say, “Had God guided us, we would have guided you. Now it is too late, whether we grieve or resort to patience, there is no exit for us.”
*14:21 Frequently, the Quran talks about the Hereafter in the past tense. This is because those are future events already witnessed by God, and will surely come to pass.
Satan Disowns His Followers
[14:22] And the devil will say, after the judgment had been issued, “God has promised you the truthful promise, and I promised you, but I broke my promise. I had no power over you; I simply invited you, and you accepted my invitation. Therefore, do not blame me, and blame only yourselves. My complaining cannot help you, nor can your complaining help me. I have disbelieved in your idolizing me. The transgressors have incurred a painful retribution.”
[14:23] As for those who believe and lead a righteous life, they will be admitted into gardens with flowing streams. They abide therein forever, in accordance with the will of their Lord. Their greeting therein is: “Peace.”
Truth vs Falsehood
[14:24] Do you not see that God has cited the example of the good word as a good tree whose root is firmly fixed, and its branches are high in the sky?
[14:25] It produces its crop every season, as designed by its Lord. God thus cites the examples for the people, that they may take heed.
[14:26] And the example of the bad word is that of a bad tree chopped at the soil level; it has no roots to keep it standing.
[14:27] God strengthens those who believe with the proven word, in this life and in the Hereafter. And God sends the transgressors astray. Everything is in accordance with God’s will.
They Remove Their Families From God’s Protection
[14:28] Have you noted those who responded to God’s blessings by disbelieving, and thus brought disaster upon their own families?
[14:29] Hell is their destiny, wherein they burn; what a miserable end!
Idol Worship: The Mother of All Evil
[14:30] They set up rivals to rank with God and to divert others from His path. Say, “Enjoy for awhile; your final destiny is Hell.”
Crucial Commandments
[14:31] Exhort My servants who believed to observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), and to give (to charity) from our provisions to them, secretly and publicly, before a day comes where there is neither trade, nor nepotism.
[14:32] God is the One who created the heavens and the earth, and He sends down from the sky water to produce all kinds of fruit for your sustenance. He has committed the ships to serve you on the sea in accordance with His command. He has committed the rivers as well to serve you.
[14:33] He has committed the sun and the moon in your service, continuously. He has committed the night and the day to serve you.
[14:34] And He gives you all kinds of things that you implore Him for. If you count God’s blessings, you can never encompass them. Indeed, the human being is transgressing, unappreciative.
Abraham
[14:35] Recall that Abraham said, “My Lord, make this a peaceful land, and protect me and my children from worshiping idols.
[14:36] “My Lord, they have misled so many people. As for those who follow me, they belong with me. As for those who disobey me, You are Forgiver, Most Merciful.
[14:37] “Our Lord, I have settled part of my family in this plantless valley, at Your Sacred House. Our Lord, they are to observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), so let throngs of people converge upon them, and provide for them all kinds of fruits, that they may be appreciative.
[14:38] “Our Lord, You know whatever we conceal and whatever we declare – nothing is hidden from God on earth, nor in the heavens.
[14:39] “Praise be to God for granting me, despite my old age, Ismail and Isaac. My Lord answers the prayers.
The Contact Prayers: Gift From God
[14:40] “My Lord, make me one who consistently observes the Contact Prayers (Salat), and also my children. Our Lord, please answer my prayers.
[14:41] “My Lord, forgive me and my parents, and the believers, on the day when the reckoning takes place.”
[14:42] Do not ever think that God is unaware of what the transgressors are doing. He only respites them until a day where the eyes stare in horror.
[14:43] As they rush (out of the graves), their faces will be looking upward, their eyes will not even blink, and their minds will be horrified.
God Sends His Commands Through His Messengers
[14:44] You shall warn the people of the day when the retribution comes to them. Those who transgressed will say, “Our Lord, give us one more respite. We will then respond to Your call and follow the messengers.” Did you not swear in the past that you will last forever?
[14:45] You dwelled in the homes of those before you, who wronged their souls, and you have seen clearly what we did to them. We have set many precedents for you.
[14:46] They schemed their schemes, and God is fully aware of their schemes. Indeed, their schemes were sufficient to erase mountains.
Guaranteed Victory for God’s Messengers
[14:47] Do not think that God will ever break His promise to His messengers. God is Almighty, Avenger.
New Heavens and New Earth
[14:48] The day will come when this earth will be substituted with a new earth, and also the heavens, and everyone will be brought before God, the One, the Supreme.
[14:49] And you will see the guilty on that day chained in shackles.
[14:50] Their garments will be made of tar, and fire will overwhelm their faces.
[14:51] For God will pay each soul for whatever it earned; God is the most efficient reckoner.
[14:52] This is a proclamation for the people, to be warned herewith, and to let them know that He is only one God, and for those who possess intelligence to take heed.
To Wajaperak, please read the prayers made by Ibrahim in 14:37 and 14:40. He asked God to bless him and his family with Contact prayers. It shows that Ibrahim already did the Contact prayers at that time even before Quran was revealed. How can Ibrahim ask God to bless him with Contact prayers if he does not know how to do? It is because God has given him the commandment to do Contact prayers and that is why he asked God for blessing upon him and his family. God gave him 2 sons, they both also do Contact prayers. And so on generations after generations prophets/messengers until the time of Muhammad. God protected Contact prayers as how it is done during those days til today. God is Powerful enough to do anything. You do not need to question that. Muhammad never went to see God and asked for less contact prayers from 50/100 to 5. You get the story from Hadith. Not from Quran. Muhammad went during the night to receive the Quran to his heart from the Almighty God. You need to read Quran more I think and please do not mix it up with Hadith.
One more question I want to ask you. Many people/Majority of believers believe that Muhammad left 2 things for us, Quran and Hadith.
Am I right? Is that what you believe? But we found out that Hadith was written down 200 years after Muhammad has passed away. So how sure are you, after 200 years he died, then suddenly you find a guy who said that another guy said that another guy said that Muhammad said, he left 2 things for us which are Quran and Hadith.
To me this does not make any sense at all. Because Muhammad never leave anything else other than the Quran. He died after he has fulfilled his duty or delivering the message to the people. He never left his people to be confused with 2 sources of religious duties. People made up Hadith. People like abu hurairah, muslims, and etc.
Do you that they have total of 1 million hadith. Now they use only 50000 hadith altogether for reference now. That is 5 percent of 1 million. They eliminate 95 percent of it because Abu Hurairah and etc does not agree to it. It was not Sahih/Authentic. How sure are you that in those 50000 hadith, maybe 1, 2, 3 perhaps more that are not sahih as well?
And some of them if you read, it’s nonsense. They even mention on how to wear your clothes, comb your hair, how to pee and etc. You do not need hadith to teach you that. Wisdom from Allah will guide you for that. Knowledge God bestow upon the people will decide not Hadith. When you were a child, you learn how to walk because God teach you and give you the strength to do so. Same as you learn how to eat, run, grow healthier, bigger, smarter, and etc. This is God’s system. You do not need hadith to teach you how to eat, or how to be with your wife.
The main issue here is that you insist on believing in hadith in order to understand the Quran. I disagree to that because of all the proofs I have given you. I hope if you want to debate, please use proofs from the Quran and not your mumbling/mocking to support your arguments. Its just gonna expose your hypocrisy and stupidity.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
I suggest that Wajaperak just could not get the answer of the questions that I raised for him. Wajaperak, you better study Quran carefully and not mocking others.
I can show you the meaning of Surah Al Najm here. But there is none mentioned 50 times of contact prayers before that was done by Moses or anyone else. Contact prayers was done by Ibrahim, it was the same then til now, 5 times a day everyday. Now suddenly you are saying you are better than Allah and you said before there were 50, and some even said before was 100 times. Which one is the correct one? You can;t be sure yourself. Because these are all stories from Hadith brother. Never God mentioned such a thing in the Quran. You and your ignorant understanding of Quran will keep you away from understanding it.
Sura 53: The Stars (Al-Najm)
Number of verses in Sura: 62
Order of revelation: 23
[53:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[53:1] As the stars fell away.*
*53:1-18 Muhammad was summoned to the highest universe to receive this Quran into his heart. The stars fell away as he traveled through them at millions of times the speed of light. Subsequently, the Quran was gradually released to his memory.
[53:2] Your friend (Muhammad) was not astray, nor was he deceived.
[53:3] Nor was he speaking out of a personal desire.
[53:4] It was divine inspiration.
[53:5] Dictated by the Most Powerful.
[53:6] Possessor of all authority. From His highest height.
[53:7] At the highest horizon.
[53:8] He drew nearer by moving down.
[53:9] Until He became as close as possible.
[53:10] He then revealed to His servant what was to be revealed.
[53:11] The mind never made up what it saw.
[53:12] Are you doubting what he saw?
[53:13] He saw him in another descent.
[53:14] At the ultimate point.
[53:15] Where the eternal Paradise is located.
[53:16] The whole place was overwhelmed.
[53:17] The eyes did not waver, nor go blind.
[53:18] He saw great signs of his Lord.
The Flimsy Idols
[53:19] Compare this with the female idols Allaat and Al-`Uzzah.
[53:20] And Manaat, the third one.
[53:21] Do you have sons, while He has these as daughters?
[53:22] What a disgraceful distribution!
[53:23] These are but names that you made up, you and your forefathers. God never authorized such a blasphemy. They follow conjecture, and personal desire, when the true guidance has come to them herein from their Lord.
[53:24] What is it that the human being desires?
[53:25] To God belongs both the Hereafter, and this world.
[53:26] Not even the angels in heaven possess authority to intercede. The only ones permitted by God are those who act in accordance with His will and His approval.
[53:27] Those who disbelieve in the Hereafter have given the angels feminine names.
[53:28] They had no knowledge about this; they only conjectured. Conjecture is no substitute for the truth.
Choose Your Friends Carefully
[53:29] You shall disregard those who turn away from our message, and become preoccupied with this worldly life.
[53:30] This is the extent of their knowledge. Your Lord is fully aware of those who strayed away from His path, and He is fully aware of those who are guided.
[53:31] To God belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. He will requite those who commit evil for their works, and will reward the righteous for their righteousness.
[53:32] They avoid gross sins and transgressions, except for minor offenses. Your Lord’s forgiveness is immense. He has been fully aware of you since He initiated you from the earth, and while you were embryos in your mothers’ bellies. Therefore, do not exalt yourselves; He is fully aware of the righteous.
[53:33] Have you noted the one who turned away?
[53:34] Rarely did he give to charity, and then very little.
[53:35] Did he possess knowledge of the future? Could he see it?
[53:36] Was he not informed of the teachings in the scripture of Moses?
[53:37] And Abraham who fulfilled?
[53:38] No soul bears the sins of another soul.
[53:39] Every human being is responsible for his own works.
[53:40] And everyone’s works will be shown.
[53:41] Then they will be paid fully for such works.
[53:42] To your Lord is the final destiny.
[53:43] He is the One who makes you laugh or cry.
[53:44] He is the One who controls death and life.
The Husband Determines The Baby’s Gender
[53:45] He is the One who created the two kinds, male and female -
[53:46] from a tiny drop of semen.
[53:47] He will effect the recreation.
[53:48] He is the One who makes you rich or poor.
[53:49] He is the Lord of the galaxies.
[53:50] He is the One who annihilated ancient `Aad.
[53:51] And wiped out Thamoud.
[53:52] Also the people of Noah before that; they were evil transgressors.
[53:53] The evil communities (of Sodom and Gomorrah) were the lowliest.
[53:54] Consequently, they utterly vanished.
[53:55] Which of your Lord’s marvels can you deny?
[53:56] This is a warning like the older ones.
[53:57] The inevitable is imminent.
[53:58] None beside God can relieve it.
[53:59] Are you questioning this matter?
[53:60] Are you laughing, instead of crying?
[53:61] Are you insisting on your ways?
[53:62] You shall fall prostrate before God, and worship.
So where did you find that Allah mentioned 50 times of contact prayers needed to be done? None. It was mentioned about the Quran was given to Muhammad. But somehow the scholars/imam added another book and say that Muhammad first receive the message from Allah of total 100 and u say 50 times Solat per day. Then Muhammad has to ask God for his blessing upon the people because Muhammad knew that the people would not be able to perform it. Therefore God make it 5 times like how it is today.
To this concept, you are saying that God does not know what he has created. If He does not know what He has created, then He can;t be called GOD. You must know that GOD is running everything and GOD knows everything in the Heaven and Earth and anything in between. As if GOD forget that human are not capable of performing 50/100 contact prayers per day. To expose your ignorant and stupidity, Allah already stated in the Quran many times that Solat was decreed to Abraham before Muhammad even born. Contact prayers, Zakat, Haj, Fasting were all practiced before Muhammad came to this world. So when Muhammad was appointed to be the prophet, he brought the Quran as the message to the world. But the ritual deeds was done long ago but the previous prophets. Muhammad was the follower of Abraham.
Please study the Quran carefully brother. Do not mix it up with Hadith because eventually you will be confused because Hadith is not consistent but Quran is.
Please answer me, where did you find out that there were 50 times of Solat during the time of Moses. I want to know and see your your proofs since I am ignorant and you are not.
I think perhaps you need some medical assistance from Allah because only Allah can guide you and heal you from the whispers of Iblis. You mock Allah’s revelations. Worse more, you add up some stories and say that it is from Quran. How dare you!! Are you saying about God what you do not know?
Thank you Tun!
Salam Tun.
Allow me to to give some kind advise to abdulazizomar (initial as ‘aao’, if there ever is one such guy!). Given a choice, I’d prefer to refer him/her as ‘that anonymous infidel/kafir (initial as taik)’.
Hi abdulazizomar (aao/taik),
I don’t have to go into details of the numerous inconsistancies and also basic ignorances that you have written about Islam that has convincingly nailed my distrust of you as being Islamic. In fact any ordinary Muslim is capable to identify you as a non-Muslim!
Consider these facts about you:
1. Your purportedly self-proclaimed preacher attitude and that you chose to invite and engage in open discussions on Islamic ‘non-issue’ matters, and in the full view of non-Muslims is totally unbecoming for any Muslim.
It’s plain stupid, even to the other religous believers!
2. Other than you, no other Muslims has ever seen/read from the al-Quran on details of the ‘rukun iman’ like how to carry out fasting, praying, doing the haji and paying the zakat.
Okay aao/taik, show us the surah that entails you to make all those ridiculous statements!
3. Your impeccable and very very lenghty all-English in all of your comments, and your ‘straight forward & direct’ understanding & translation of the al-Quran & Hadiths only belies me that you’re actually not abdulazizomar the Malaysian Muslim Malay, and also you’re reading them like a storybook!
Previously I’d seen some pretenders to the likes of you appearing in Dr. M’s blogsite, and they all cowed when challenged to be seen in person.
In this fasting month, it will most beautiful & beneficial if we can discuss amicably and in person on any religious matters/issues, if you really wish for a solution.
I’m requesting that you fix a date and mosque (anywhere in West Malaysia) during this fasting month for the muzakarah, the time will preferrably be after solat Asar, and we can have our breaking of fast at the mosque (that is, if you’re fasting). Just give me 3 days notice after Dr. M publishes your invitation.
I’ll be coming with ‘a few others’.
Kepada semua Muslim, saya ucapkan selamat menunaikan ibadah puasa. Semoga segala usaha dan pengorbanan kita di berkati Allah.
SALAM KASIH SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Sdr. ‘abdulazizomar’ said,
Please allow me to share some of my understanding with SamuraiMelayu.
…
Look at Gaddhafi, Hosni Mubarak, Zeinal Abidin of Tunisia, President of Nigeria,
and many more, and they have so much ego. They want to rule the country as they please. And they do not follow Islam as the law.
Our understanding of Sdr. ‘abdulazizomar’ remarks.
… We don’t get ALLAH swt BLESSINGS ( there’s no God/Gods)) coz the Muslim leaders were always not following( obey) the ‘Voice’ of the AlQuran as the LAW .. even though they are Muslims..???
Sdr. ‘abdulazizomar’ said
But when you look at Japan, England, US, and other parts of the world, they always listen to the majority. They always obey the voice of the people. How can they rule better than the so called Islamic country?
Our understanding..,
… They get their Gods’ Blessings ( they have many gods) coz they always listen and obey the ‘Voice’ of the people… Even though they do not believe in The All Mighty ALLAH..???
Sdr. ‘abdulazizomar’ said
Why do you think I change the basics and the fundamental things about Islam? Just because I say ‘There is no God except Allah’ without saying Muhammad is the messenger of God?
…Such EGOISTIC remarks makes us look back at Gaddhafi, Hosni Mubarak, Zeinal Abidin of Tunisia, and many more, and they have so much ego.
Our Adik Wajaperak said,
…
Tun..this man is seriously delusional..Never the less..I am going to give him a hint..It is in Surah An Najm..Glasgow Coma Scale is the world methodology measurement of sobrierity..Normally when you were suspected of having cerebral concussion,this procedure is used..
Findings: Above patient k/c ( known case ) delusional under your blog was referred by……… for attention an d claims that patient is w/out ( without ) caretaker.
With heavy ‘heart’, we seconded our adik ‘wajaperak’ findings and to refer ‘abdulazizomar’ to THE medical
practitioner…
BISMILAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM,
‘ LA ILAHA IL ALLAH, MUHAMAD RASULULLAH’
ALFATIHAH, AMIN
Ps. Mohon maaf, Sdr.‘abdulazizomar’
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Sdr. ‘abdulazizomar’ said,
Please allow me to share some of my understanding with SamuraiMelayu.
…. And also because of the ego? God told us in the Quran to kill our ego.
Thank you and rightly so my Brother,
Unfortunately, your many thought provoking comments do not reflect the approach of one who had killed his EGO..
The way to kill the EGO is by being ‘HUMBLE’ in our ‘APPROACH’…
SPEAK ‘SOFTLY’ LOVE
ALFATIHAH, AMIN
Ps. Your efforts are much appreciated, though..???
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Sdr. ‘abdulazizomar’ said,
Please allow me to share some of my understanding with SamuraiMelayu.
…. And also because of the ego? God told us in the Quran to kill our ego.
Thank you and rightly so my Brother,
Unfortunately, your many thought provoking comments do not reflect the approach of one who had killed his EGO..
The way to kill the EGO is by being ‘HUMBLE’ in our ‘APPROACH’…
SPEAK ‘SOFTLY’ LOVE
ALFATIHAH, AMIN
Ps. Your efforts are much appreciated, though..???
To all Islamic apologists who claim misinterpretation, evidence suggests it is irrelevant. If no country can thrive under the religion (in modern days), regardless of how it is interpreted, one can only come to the following conclusion:
The problem IS the religion.
The obvious remedy is to decouple Islam from institutionalized state policies (ie, separation of church & state in the US). But since no countries have been able to successfully do this, one can only come back to the same conclusion:
The problem IS the religion.
Stop romanticising the halcion days of the 15th century, and stop squandering valuable resources on religious studies and research. Wake up and smell the 21st globalized century.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to share one chapter from Quran with our friends here.
I hope you read and understand that human is nothing to mention in the sight of God.
Sura 76: The Human (Al-Insaan)
Number of verses in Sura: 31
Order of revelation: 98
[76:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[76:1] Is it not a fact that there was a time when the human being was nothing to be mentioned?
[76:2] We created the human from a liquid mixture, from two parents, in order to test him. Thus, we made him a hearer and a seer.
[76:3] We showed him the two paths, then he is either appreciative, or unappreciative.
[76:4] We prepared for the disbelievers chains, shackles, and a blazing Hell.
[76:5] As for the virtuous, they will drink from cups spiced with nectar.
[76:6] A spring that is reserved for God’s servants; it will gush out as they will.
[76:7] They fulfill their pledges, and reverence a day that is extremely difficult.
[76:8] They donate their favorite food to the poor, the orphan, and the captive.
[76:9] “We feed you for the sake of God; we expect no reward from you, nor thanks.
[76:10] “We fear from our Lord a day that is full of misery and trouble.”
[76:11] Consequently, God protects them from the evils of that day, and rewards them with joy and contentment.
[76:12] He rewards them for their steadfastness with Paradise, and silk.
[76:13] They relax therein on luxurious furnishings. They suffer neither the heat of the sun, nor any cold.
[76:14] The shade covers them therein, and the fruits are brought within reach.
[76:15] They are served drinks in silver containers and cups that are translucent.
[76:16] Translucent cups, though made of silver; they rightly deserved all this.
[76:17] They enjoy drinks of delicious flavors.
[76:18] From a spring therein known as “Salsabeel.”
[76:19] Serving them will be immortal servants. When you see them, they will look like scattered pearls.
[76:20] Wherever you look, you will see bliss, and a wonderful dominion.
[76:21] On them will be clothes of green velvet, satin, and silver ornaments. Their Lord will provide them with pure drinks.
[76:22] This is the reward that awaits you, for your efforts have been appreciated.
[76:23] We have revealed to you this Quran; a special revelation from us.
[76:24] You shall steadfastly carry out your Lord’s commandments, and do not obey any sinful disbeliever among them.
[76:25] And commemorate the name of your Lord day and night.
[76:26] During the night, fall prostrate before Him, and glorify Him many a long night.
[76:27] These people are preoccupied with this fleeting life, while disregarding – just ahead of them – a heavy day.
[76:28] We created them, and established them, and, whenever we will, we can substitute others in their place.
[76:29] This is a reminder: whoever wills shall choose the path to his Lord.
[76:30] Whatever you will is in accordance with God’s will. God is Omniscient, Wise.
[76:31] He admits whomever He wills into His mercy. As for the transgressors, He has prepared for them a painful retribution.
Thank you Tun
Assalamu’alaikum Tun,
izinkan saya mengulas komen cetek yg menyesat dan memecahbelahkan kesatuan Ummah oleh abdulazizomar dan gerombolan anti-hadis nya.
Encik abdulazizomar,anda sebenar nya mempunyai cara penafsiran Al-Quran yg setara dgn cara satu lagi musuh Islam,iaitu ekompute dan sedara-mara nya yg berulangkali mengulang-ulang Khutbah Haji Wada’ dimana Rasulullah s.a.w berpesan “orang arab tidak lebih mulia dari bukan-arab dan semua manusia adalah sama-sama berasal dari Adam a.s.”..,dgn tujuan mensetarafkan bumiputra dgn pendatang di bumi Malaysia ini.modus-operandi golongan anda adalah sama ekompute dan sedara-mara nya iaitu mengambil perkataan yg Benar lalu mentafsir nya dgn cara yg Salah dgn tujuan yg amat Jahat.
anda memetik ayat-ayat Al Quran sepotong-sepotong dgn tujuan membangunkan sebuah pendirian yg telah sedia ada.erti nya Al Quran anda jadikan alat untuk memperkuat pendirian anda menolak Hadis dan segala yg bersangkutan dgn kemuliaan Pembawa Wahyu.seolah-olah Wahyu itu surat dari seorang kawan kpd kawan nya,lalu siapa pun posmen atau apa warna unifom yg dipakai nya bukan masalah anda.yg penting adalah surat dan isi nya…jadi pendirian anda bukanlah diambil dari Al Quran,melainkan Al Quran dijadikan alat untuk menguatkan pendirian anda.begitulah pandangan yg berjela-jela yg cuba anda tonjolkan disini.
saya tidak ingin mengulas dari mana pandangan sebegini bermula sebab anda tentu sedia maklum nabi anda Rashad Khalifa bukan lah orang pertama yg memperkenalkan konsep ini.
baik,sekarang saya bawa anda menziarahi pokok persoalan yg jadi punca kesesatan anda iaitu iaitu penolakkan anda dan kaum anda terhadap Hadis-hadis dari Rasulullah s.a.w hingga mencetus komen biadap dari mulut celupar anda konon nya majoriti umat Islam menyembah Muhammad kerana bersyahadah dgn nama Baginda s.a.w dan berselawat kpd nya dalam sholat kami…
dalam salah-satu komen anda,anda ada menukil pengertian Surah Al Baqarah ayat 124-129.tapi otak kotor anda terlindung dari kefahaman mengenai nya.Ayat-ayat ini menceritakan tentang Nabi Besar,Imam seluruh manusia,Nabi Ibrahim alaihissalam dan anak nya Nabi Ismail alaissalam,yg beragama Tauhid mula nya di perintahkan mendirikan Kaabah-Baitullah di tanah tandus lagi gersang.lalu bekerja lah mereka berdua membangunkan nya.
kemudian setelah selesai,Nabi Besar itu berpijak diatas batu yg agak tinggi lalu berdoa kpd Allah Subhanaullah Ta’ala memohon,
1)meminta dijadikan Mekah negeri yg aman
2)anak-cucu nya dijauhkan dari penyembahan berhala.
3)memohon anak-cucu nya tetap kekal mukmin dan mengerjakan sholat dan menjadikan orang tertarik serta diberi rezeki dari tumbuh-tumbuhan dan doa khusus nya seperti yg dia gambarkan di dua ayat berturut-turut 38-39 surah Ibrahim dan menjadi sedikit nyata pada ayat 40 surah yg sama yg rahsia hajat Ibrahim itu dibongkar dgn jelas oleh Allah Subhanaullahu Ta’ala di ayat 129 surah Al Baqarah.
” Wahai Tuhan kami,utuslah untuk mereka seorang Rasul dari golongan mereka yg akan membacakan ayat-ayat Mu dan mengajarkan ayat-ayat Mu dan mengajarkan KITAB dan HIKMAH kpd mereka serta mensucikan diri mereka.sesungguh nya Engkau Maha Kuasa dan Maha Bijaksana”.
secara ringkas nya,sesudah menyiapkan Ka’abah-Baitullah lalu Allah menabalkan nya sebagai Imam bagi seluruh manusia,sesudah berdoa meminta diterima usaha murni nya,meminta dipelihara anak-cucu nya kekal Mukmin dalam agama Tauhid,diberi rezeki dari buah-buahan dan tumbuh-tumbuhan,Nabi Ibrahim alahissalam meminta sesuatu yg sangat besar iaitu “..seorang Rasul dari golongan mereka yg akan membacakan ayat-ayat Mu dan mengajarkan ayat-ayat Mu dan mengajarkan Kitab (Al Quran)dan Hikmah (As Sunnah) kpd mereka serta mensucikan diri mereka…”.dan jika anda memang sangat bodoh sekali pun,melalui kedua surah ini amat jelas untuk anda faham bahwa “rasul” yg diminta dalam doa Nabi Ibrahim itu adalah Dia alaihissalam menginginkan Rasul itu datang dari keturunan nya,yg telah dia doa minta pemeliharaan Allah dalam Iman dan Tauhid.
kita sama-sama mengetahui bahwa “Rasul” yg didoakan kedatangan nya oleh Nabi Ibrahim alahissalam itu adalah Junjungan kita Rasulullah Muhammad shalallahu alaihi, wassalam,penutup dari segala Nabi dan Rasul.kecuali kalau anda yahudi atau nasrani atau ahmadiah-qadiani yg bukan saja anti-hadis malah menolak keRasulan Penghulu Para Nabi dan Rasul,Junjungan kita Rasulullah s.a.w…yg didoakan kedatangan nya oleh Nabi Besar Imam seluruh manusia Ibrahin a.s,yg kerana begitu besar dan berat doa yg diminta nya hingga terbenam telapak kaki nya pada batu yg dipijak ketika berdoa.dan pada batu yg berbekas telapak kaki Nabi Ibrahim itu lah kita di suruh bersujud dan sholat untuk menyempurnakan tawaf Haji.
wahai abdulazizomar dan golongan anti-hadis,bagaimana anda sekelian boleh begitu buta terhadap kemuliaan yg begitu besar yg dianugerahkan Allah Subhanaullahu Ta’ala terhadap Nabi Muhammad s.a.w? tidak kah cukup jelas bahwa Al Quran bukan lah surat dari kawan anda dan Pembawa nya bukan pula seperti posmen biasa? Al Quran adalah Kemuliaan yg diselubungi Kemuliaan dan Pembawa nya tentulah pula di muliakan oleh Tuanpunya Kalamullah itu sendiri hinggakan Allah memelihara setiap satu anak-cucu keturunan Ibrahim sampai kpd Muhammad dgn Iman dan Tauhid dan jgn lah anda turut terpedaya dgn hadis-hadis yg anda anti itu,yg mengatakan ibubapa Rasulullah,Aminah dan Abdullah, Abu Thalib dan Abdul Muthalib dan leluhur selanjut nya sebagai kafir.mereka semua adalah Islam,sesuai dgn doa Nabi Ibrahim yg ditegaskan oleh Al Quran.anti-hadis biar bertempat.hadis yg tak betul,kita siasat dan tolak.bukan tolak semua hadis,…
dan tentang tuduhan anda bahwa umat Islam hari ini kebanyakkan nya menyembah Muhammad,pesan saya,anda jgn ikut jejak langkah Iblis Laknatullah yg kerana enggan sujud kpd yg lain selain Allah,dia malah engkar menentang perintah Allah.kalau Allah sendiri yg perintah untuk sujud,kita sujud saja.jgn kira pada siapa.Islam adalah ketaatan kpd Allah,bukan fikir logik-tidak nya perintah Allah.Iblis rasa perintah Allah supaya sujud pada Adam tak logik,jadi dia tak ikut,lalu terkutuk lah dia.
Terimakasih Tun.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Semoga Tun sudi mengziznkan ruang..
abdazizomar
[[Did you read Al Quran or not? How do you know Solat was done 50 rakaat during the time of Prophet Moses? From Quran?]]
Tun..this man is seriously delusional..Never the less..I am going to give him a hint..It is in Surah An Najm..Glasgow Coma Scale is the world methodology measurement of sobrierity..Normally when you were suspected of having cerebral concussion,this procedure is used..By the same analogy when one mention that particular verse in Surah An Najm..we know straight away about mikraj..I am waiting to see wether this particular patient know what I am referring to..
Tun..I think it is about time I as medical record practitioner refer this patient to you the medical practitioner…:)
Lampiran B
abdazizomar Umur : Undetermine
Nama Pesakit
No Kp : Not available Jantina : Likely male..:)
Findings: Above patient k/c ( known case ) delusional under your blog was referred by……… for attention and claims that patient is w/out ( without ) caretaker.
Result of Investigations:
My assesment in Psy ( Psychiatric ) clinic reviewed that patient is not well managed and has major delusional problems that is Obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) which is the main concerns.I have called his conscience but to no avail.He is actually not taken care by his relatives resulting thus present predicaments.
Treatment : I have told him regarding clopixol drops and his management plan.I would suggest that you as M.O ( Medical Officer ) I/C ( Incharge ) to meet his relatives for his wellness being regarding his long term Rx ( treament ) plan.
Recommenation Plan f/u ( Follow Up ):
He is on clopixol 10 drops BD and IM Clopixol 600mg 2/52 weeks.Clopixol can be added in solid food / fluid – avoid food which is hot and spicy.Patient should not wandering around.
Please informs me on further progress.
Thank you Tun….:)
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to respond to Parameswara 2.
I agree with you regarding the history of how Islam emulate from those days til now. According to you, we need Hadith to explain and support the Quran. Imam from previous generations used Hadith and Quran together before deciding on which law to practice.
But are you sure about the law that they put to practice? Are they really according to the Quran? If they do, then why are we living in ‘HELL’ now? War everywhere, Muslims are fighting one another, Muslims bombing here and there in the name of God, poverty in Muslim countries, political instability among Muslim countries, corruption, nepotism, cronyism, name it, all there. But I thought if you really follow the Quran as the law, then God will guide you out of darkness to light. That is what God’s promise in the Quran.
Absolutely, God’s allies will have nothing to fear,
nor will they grieve.
They are those who believe
and lead a righteous life.
For them happiness in this life, and in the Hereafter.
Such is God’s inviolable law.
This is the true triumph [10:62-64]
Surely, those who believe,
those who are Jewish,
the Christians,
and the converts;
anyone who
(1) believes in God,
(2) believes in the Last Day, and
(3) leads a righteous life,
will receive their recompense from their Lord;
they have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve. [2:62, 5:69]
But right now, we are in deep trouble. Most people do not even know how to rule a country according to God’s law. That is why most Islamic state are in big trouble. Just look at Middle East. They are consider as the best people since all prophets/messengers come from that part of the world. But just look at them now. Their country is no longer practicing Islam. Please remember that even during the time of prophet, they were kings and leaders who were against Islam. So if this is happening again, I am not surprise at all. Because they choose word of men over word of God. They will never succeed.
Just to add more about Islam in Malaysia. Recently JAIS and Police raided a church in Damansara Utama. They raided because they were worried about Christian priest were trying to promote Christianity to Muslims who attended the event. They found out later that the event was for fund raising to help HIV/AIDS victims. It shows how JAIS or whatever you want to call them has break the one of the rules in Islam. You should always respect other religion’s house of worship. You cannot simply go and force people to call off their event. JAIS and Police did not even have warrant for them to take action.
Sadly Quran already mentioned that,
[109:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[109:1] Say, “O you disbelievers.
[109:2] “I do not worship what you worship.
[109:3] “Nor do you worship what I worship.
[109:4] “Nor will I ever worship what you worship.
[109:5] “Nor will you ever worship what I worship.
[109:6] “To you is your religion, and to me is my religion.”
Are we allowed to catch people who are doing they work and business regarding their religion? When God stated clearly ‘to you is your religion, and to me is my religion’? Is it hard to understand that? Do we need Hadith to explain that also?
Worse more was that they went it without any proofs and warrant. They just make fool out of themselves. Give bad image to Christian people about Islam. And yet people listen JAIS and follow their way of conducting rules and regulations. What is wrong with your logic?
Let me share with you another verse,
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[110:1] When triumph comes from God, and victory.
[110:2] You will see the people embracing God’s religion in throngs.
[110:3] You shall glorify and praise your Lord, and implore Him for forgiveness. He is the Redeemer.
InsyAllah the day will come. I believe people are smarter now to believe in the truth. People do not want to see Islam to be practiced in the wrong way which leading us to darkness instead of light.
I hope you understand my point here mr parameswara 2. We can have our differences, but we should never be enemy of one another. I hope you are cool with that. Eventually, God will be the judge among us.
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Praise be to God, Lord of the universe.
Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Master of the Day of Judgment.
You alone we worship;
You alone we ask for help.
Guide us in the right path;
The path of those whom You blessed;
not of those who have deserved wrath,
nor of the strayers.
Thank you Tun
Subhanallah, Alhamdulillah, Allahu Akbar,
Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
1. Islam adalah Agama dari Allah S.W.T.
2. Bila menyalahgunakan pengertian terhadap Islam maka perjuangan hudud pun boleh tolak tepi.
3. Menyokong penzina adalah bukti laungan hudud yang tersangat amat berpura-pura………. (jgn main2, ikut hukum syara’ berat tu)
MasyaAllah………… wahai sudara2 Islam ku, bertaubatlah cepat sebelum nyawa di kerongkong
Kembalilah kpd UMNO perjuangan kamu yg awal dulu, insyaAllah selamat dunia akhirat.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to share some of my understanding with SamuraiMelayu.
Dear brother,
Whenever you want to follow Muhammad, you should follow whatever is written in Quran. Not in Hadith. Hadith is not from Muhammad. Hadith is from Muslim, Abu Hurairah and etc. Muhammad never authorized them to write anything about Muhammad. He brought the Quran to us, why would he want them to write another book?
You do not even know the authenticity of the Hadith and yet you follow them. But if you believe in Allah, the Last Day, and Muhammad as a messenger of Allah, then you surely believe in Quran. When you believe in Quran, the main criteria for you is to believe in the whole Kitab. And you also must know the fact that Quran is complete, easy to understand, fully detailed and the truth from Allah. So therefore, you do not need to believe in another kitab except Quran.
But if you choose to believe in another kitab/book, you end up having 2 sources of rules and regulations of Islam. One is from Allah and another one is from Abu Hurairah, Muslims and etc. So please ask yourself, which one to follow?
Hanan wrote about how Muslim around the world never condemn the attack did by the President of Syrian on it’s people. Killing as he wish. More than 100 people died in a day just to prove his ego over the people. But do you really know what is the cause of the whole fight beside the political turmoil? To my understanding, it is more to do with no Iman/faith in their leaders. Anywhere you see in the world when it comes to President of Prime Minister who has been asked to step down, it is always the muslim leader who would find it hard to follow. Look at Gaddhafi, Hosni Mubarak, Zeinal Abidin of Tunisia, President of Nigeria,
and many more, and they have so much ego. They want to rule the country as they please. And they do not follow Islam as the law.
But when you look at Japan, England, US, and other parts of the world, they always listen to the majority. They always obey the voice of the people. How can they rule better than the so called Islamic country?
Is it not because they have 1001 rules and regulations to follow? And also because of the ego? God told us in the Quran to kill our ego. But Muslim around the world never learn their lesson and keep on fighting and call it in the name of Allah even though it is clearly not. Killing the innocent people, bombing everywhere, and claim themselves to be the soldier of Allah. Please use your brain brother. As long as we have 1001 rules and regulations, we will never rule an Islamic state according to God’s command. We will always live in despair and unhappy because God’s blessing will only be given those who uphold God’s revelations and God’s command.
Let me remind you again, Muslim today no longer practicing Islam according to the Quran but instead they practice it according to their own preference. They follow only conjecture. They only guess. But Quran is the truth. And revelations from Allah. If you do not follow it, then you are not following God’s commandment.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to share some verses from the Quran.
Honoring Previous Scripture
[Quran 5:44] We have sent down the Torah,* containing guidance and light. Ruling in accordance with it were the Jewish prophets, as well as the rabbis and the priests, as dictated to them in GOD’s scripture, and as witnessed by them. Therefore, do not reverence human beings; you shall reverence Me instead. And do not trade away My revelations for a cheap price. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD’s revelations are the disbelievers.
The Gospel of Jesus: Guidance and Light
[Quran 5:46] Subsequent to them, we sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the previous scripture, the Torah. We gave him the Gospel, containing guidance and light, and confirming the previous scriptures, the Torah, and augmenting its guidance and light, and to enlighten the righteous.
[Quran 5:47] The people of the Gospel shall rule in accordance with GOD’s revelations therein. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD’s revelations are the wicked.
Quran: The Ultimate Reference
[Quran 5:48] Then we revealed to you this scripture, truthfully, confirming previous scriptures, and superseding them. You shall rule among them in accordance with GOD’s revelations, and do not follow their wishes if they differ from the truth that came to you. For each of you, we have decreed laws and different rites. Had GOD willed, He could have made you one congregation. But He thus puts you to the test through the revelations He has given each of you. You shall compete in righteousness. To GOD is your final destiny – all of you – then He will inform you of everything you had disputed.
[Quran 5:49] You shall rule among them in accordance with GOD’s revelations to you. Do not follow their wishes, and beware lest they divert you from some of GOD’s revelations to you. If they turn away, then know that GOD wills to punish them for some of their sins. Indeed, many people are wicked.
God clearly asked us to rule according to God’s revelations and not human made book. So tell me Wajaperak, should I follow Quran or Hadith now?
Thank you Tun
Dearest Tun
May I attempt to respond to bro AbdulAzizomar.
1-The Hadis had been compiled circa 200 years after Hijrah but inspite of that the Muslims until the 13th century AD have delivered the world the classical Golden Age of Islam .The compilation of the Hadis have also helped to eliminate the hundreds and thousands of spurious Hadis circulating and confusing the understanding of Islam in the Muslim world then.Many of the early laws that was developed by Muslim jurists with the help of the Al Quran and Hadis had been the basis for the the many laws in the Western society today.
2-A number of important legal institutions were developed by Muslim jurists during this Islamic Golden Age. One such institution was the Hawala, an early informal value transfer system, which is mentioned in texts of Islamic jurisprudence as early as the 8th century that later influenced the development of the agency in common law and in civil laws such as the aval in French law and the avallo in Italian law.The “European commenda” (Islamic Qirad) used in European civil law may have also originated from Islamic law.
3-The Waqf in Islamic law, which developed during the 7th–9th centuries, bears a notable resemblance to the trusts in the English trust law. The trust law developed in England at the time of the Crusades, during the 12th and 13th centuries, was introduced by Crusaders who may have been influenced by the Waqf institutions they came across in the Middle East.
4-The Islamic lafif was a body of twelve members drawn from the neighbourhood and sworn to tell the truth, who were bound to give a unanimous verdict, about matters “which they had personally seen or heard, binding on the judge, to settle the truth concerning facts in a case, between ordinary people, and obtained as of right by the plaintiff.” The only characteristic of the English jury which the Islamic lafif lacked was the “judicial writ directing the jury to be summoned and directing the bailiff to hear its recognition.” According to Professor John Makdisi, “no other institution in any legal institution studied to date shares all of these characteristics with the English jury.” It is thus likely that the concept of the lafif may have been introduced to England by the Normans, who conquered both England and the Emirate of Sicily, and then evolved into the modern English jury.
5-Several other fundamental common law institutions may have been adapted from similar legal institutions in Islamic law and jurisprudence, and introduced to England by the Normans after the Norman conquest of England and the Emirate of Sicily, and by Crusaders during the Crusades.etc,etc.
6-God have also chosen our prophet Muhammad SAW to be a model for us and have commanded us to emulate the prophet if we want to seek success in this world and the hereafter.He was the walking AlQuran.Now how could we have obeyed God and emulate the prophet if there are no Hadis to guide us?According to the AlQuran ,the prophet is a man like unto us,only revelation comes to him.So as our model,what he can do,we can do it too.If every Muslim really thrive to emulate the prophet in his humility,perseverance,dedication,persistence,determination,etc now that would be just as good as having read the AlQuran for these ‘success’values are all extracted from the AlQuran.
7-But I totally agree with you that the Hadis being compiled by men are not free from corruption sohih or what over time.That is why we have a Syite and Sunni approved Hadis .Allah SWT have only promised to protect the AlQuran.So I agree that it would not be right to equate a book compiled by men with a book of revelations from God,the AlQuran.The AlQuran will always be the benchmark to verify the Hadis whether it is sohih or not.The Al Quran must always be treated as the primary source of Islamic knowledge,while the Hadis,being not perfect, the secondary source.If a Hadis contradict the AlQuran or the principles laid therein it must be rejected outright, sohih or not.
8-We trust that the early jurist would have been guided to take the AlQuran and the sohih to formulate the laws that had been effective enough to help Islam rule almost half the planet before.In my opinion our actual problem was that we became too comfortable and had not adapted to the changes that was taking place around us and became outdated.
9-Nonetheless the reason we had all these different jurisprudence was due mainly to the geographical factor due to the immense size of the Islamic Empire then.The people living in the regions following the teachings of Imam Shafie will not have heard of Imam Hambali in another region.But the advent of the global village now should be the basis for the unification of all these different jurisprudences into one common jurisprudence as well as a re’sohih’fication of shady sohih hadis if any,in our attempt to decorrupt the hadis again for the sake of Muslim unity and to adhere to God’s warning to us against following sects, once and for all.
10-InsyaAllah,as long as we are sincere in our research God will help us out.Only Allah SWT can help us and nobody else.Wallahualam bisawab.
Thanks Tun
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Salam kasih sayang Sdr. abdulazizomar,
Bismillahirrahmanirrahim,
May we suggest you get a ‘ perfect mirror’ and honestly look for yourself in the mirror and you will see a ‘Mim Ha Mim Dal’ and that Muhamad ( with your looks) needs the Prophet guidances on this ‘violent’ earth to facilitate him to cross the ‘Bridge’ and Muhammad Rasulullah will await his followers at the ‘Doors’ to Heaven..
As a simple example,
Allah Subhanahuwataala decreed that 2 parts of Hydrogen and 1 part oxygen is WATER.. and the Prophet guide ( teach) on its various uses .. for good life here on earth..
” La Ilaha Il Allah ( Alif lam lam ha) , Muhammad ( Mim ha mim dal) Rasul Allah”
Sdr. abdulazizomar,
Notice that there is no mention of Nabi(the Prophet) in the 2 Kalimah Shahadat?.. hanya Allah dan Muhamad…!!!
Yang tersurat itu Pengetahuan, Yang Tersirat itu Ilmu
Nafsu Pencari Pengetahuan, Iman Pencari Ilmu
Kita hidup dalam Nafsu, Kita mati dalam Iman..
wallahualam
ALFATIHAH, AMIN
Ps. Pandang pada yang tersurat dan lihat pada yang tersirat..
Insyaallah, akan diberi pertunjuk oleh Allah s.w.t kepada umat Nabi Muhamad s.a.w yang tinggi Pengetahuan dari Ilmu nya…
Dear Tun,
Wajaperak,
Did you read Al Quran or not? How do you know Solat was done 50 rakaat during the time of Prophet Moses? From Quran? From which Kitab?
You and your assumptions can divert people from the true teaching of Islam.
I am asking you again here, study the Quran and do not mock others. God does not like that. You do not need to be arrogant. People like you always need humans name to be mentioned beside God’s name then only your heart is happy. But God alone is mentioned, your heart shrink.
People like you are the one that will bring down Islam because you do not follow exactly what Muhammad tell you to follow. Muhammad never authorized any other kitab for you to refer except fo Al Quran. If you think by following Hadith you are following Muhammad, you are very wrong. Muhammad only follow Quran. He never writes or leave any other book behind.
If you follow Hadith, you are following Muslims, Abu Hurairah, and etc.
They were not even born during the time of Muhammad. They wrote the Hadith 200 years after Muhammad died. So how can you confirm all the utterance is purely from Muhammad. And you know for a fact that human’s nature is they like to add and spice up stories. They were enemies of Muhammad who always look for opportunity to disregard his message to the world. His enemies were many during the time when he dakwah Islam. According to the history, there were only about 10,000 people who followed Muhammad(ISLAM) during the time when they were all coming back to Mecca from Medina. So can you imagine how many people living the area who do not like Muhammad because of his message, the truth of Islam?
You cant even answer my questions about Intercession, about all the practice of Islam came through Ibrahim and not Muhammad, about the ablution, about the Zakat, about the Haj, about Syahadah, about contact prayers, haram and halal, about rules and regulations, and many more.
You do not agree with me just because you follow Hadith and I follow Quran. So ask your smart brain, which one is on the right path? People reading and studying Quran or people reading and studying and busy defending hadith?
Do not waste your time. You re running out of time now. You are not even confident with the word of God which is the truth but you are so confident with the word of men (abu hurairah, muslims etc). It just expose your hypocrisy because you do not believe in God’s revelations.
We will see who have the last laugh…….
The enemy of Islam are the one that bring something new to the original teaching of Islam. People from other religion can never defeat us if we are united. It is only people from within Islam that can break the unity and lead them out of light to darkness while God lead you out of darkness to light.
By following Hadith/Sunnah, how many rules and regulations have you set up? People in Africa practice Islam differently compare to the one in Europe, the one in Middle east practice Islam differently compare to the one in the US. Even in South East Asia, they are all kinds. Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Singapore, and Malaysia. We cant even have the right teaching of Islam to uphold. We are fighting to please our egos on who is right and who is wrong.
But if you put away your egos and your parents practice of Islam, and let’s take a look at the Quran again. Carefully and study it properly, you will find many answers there. Without having to refer to Hadith. And you will find that many traditional religious practice all this while has got nothing to do with Islam at all. They made it up because maybe to suit their customs, way of life or something but definitely not to please God. So people get it all mixed up as times change.
So please study the Quran and do not have other reference for your akidah and salvation to God.
You may call me any names Wajaperak but you yourself do not support Quran. You said Quran is not perfect, not fully detailed, not easy since it does not explain. But you do not know because you did not read Quran, that Allah describe Quran using the word Hakim, Hikmah. You mock God’s revelation out of you egos to defend Hadith. Please do something about it. People who mock and do not believe in God’s revelation will get the punishment from God. Severe punishment.
Last but not least, I wonder how did you all believe that Muhammad can intercede on your behalf when Allah stated clearly all intercession during the Day of Judgment belongs to Allah. No soul can help another soul. No wonder you people worship Muhammad because you believe that he will intercede on your behalf. Is it true? Ibrahim cannot intercede on behalf of his father, Muhammad cannot intercede on behalf of his uncle and family members, and other prophets as well. What makes you think Muhammad know your name Wajaperak? Please you smart brain to think of that. If Muhammad can intercede, he would surely intercede on behalf of everyone that he knows during his lifetime because he cares for everyone. But it is not in his power. All intercession belongs to God.
But sadly this ulama suddenly said that Muhammad can intercede on your behalf. So we need to commemorate his name day and night when Allah stated clearly commemorate Me day and night not another entity.
You can never see your idol worship practice because for you whatever is written in Hadith are all correct and perfect. Even though it is a human made book. But you dare to question Quran. You dare to question God’s revelations saying that you do not understand it without referring to hadith first. If you do not understand Quran, it is because God has shield your heart and your mind from understanding it. God will choose among His people who can study and understand the Quran. If you are not one of them, you better repent and study Quran in the name of God. And if you choose not to bother about this, God does not need you. He can change other people in your place to study Quran and implement the rules of God instead rules of men. God does not need you and your arrogant attitude of mocking Quran.
Thank you Tun
Salam Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
Sebagai menambah untuk berkongsi:
1. Agama bukan bangsa.
2. Agama ialah cara hidup
3. Semua bangsa boleh pilih cara hidup.
4. Cara hidup yang memberi jaminan sejahtera kepada semua orang ialah cara hidup Islam atau berAgama Islam.
5. Sayangnya, terdapat manusia yang tersalah pilih cara hidup, maka itu mereka tidak mensejahterakan diri sendiri dan juga tidak mensejahterkan orang lain.
6. Jika seseorang itu boleh mensejahterkan diri sendiri, sejahterakan diri orang lain, sejahterakan jiran, sejahterakan masyarakat, sejahterakan manusia sejagat……. itu lah…penganut Agama Islam sebenar.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh…
Tun..semoga sudi mengizinkan ruang..
abdazizomar..
Tun..here is a man who claimed he follows Al Quran to the letter..But you see,he always contradicted himself..
[[And end up Jesus was killed]]…Which side that he took? If he says Jesus..Than he acknowledges kafirian belief..If he says Jesus meaning Nabi Isa a.s then he contradicted this verse..
“Padahal mereka tidak membunuhnya dan tidak memalangnya (di kayu palang – salib), tetapi diserupakan bagi mereka (orang yang mereka bunuh itu seperti Nabi ‘Isa). Dan Sesungguhnya orang-orang yang telah berselisih faham, mengenai Nabi ‘Isa, sebenarnya mereka berada dalam keadaan syak (ragu-ragu) tentang menentukan (pembunuhannya). Tiada sesuatu pengetahuan pun bagi mereka mengenainya selain daripada mengikut sangkaan semata-mata; dan mereka tidak membunuhnya dengan yakin. Bahkan Allah telah mengangkat (rafa‘ahuLlah) Nabi ‘Isa kepada-Nya; dan adalah Allah Maha Kuasa, lagi Maha Bijaksana.” [Surah al-Nisa’ 4:157-158]
[[But sadly after he died, people created another book called Hadith/Sunnah just like the Jewish and Christian did before]]
abdazizomar attempts at confusing muslimin have been confounded by Allah in this verses..
“Apa yang didatangkan oleh Rasul kepada kalian maka ambillah dan apa yang beliau larang maka berhenti (tinggalkan)lah.” (Al-Hasyr: 7)
How in the world he manipulates this verse from Al Quran? He disobeys Allah decreed in Al Quran and yet accuses all the whole wide world muslimin as stupid and unlearned..Yeah..he ablsolves himself from this manipulation…If you asks me..I says it is a sheer misguided attempts…Multiple at at too!!..
[[All revelations were given to Muhammad during the Night of Destiny. All of it. But then Muhammad released it slowly from time to time in the period of 23 years of his life]]
See again..Another contradiction from Allah in exposing abdazizomar..
Firman Allah Ta‘ala (al-Isra 17:106) – Maksudnya: Dan al-Quran itu telah Kami turunkan dengan beransur-ansur agar kamu membacakannya perlahan-lahan kepada manusia dan Kami menurunkannya bahagian demi bahagian..
What sheer attempts of misguidance soul!!
Tun..abdaziz omar is one serious case of delusional..I know because my father use to to be a caretaker these kind of people in a mental instituition.There..there is a ward for mental patient who indicted by the crimes their commited but not prosecuted by their mental state of mind..
Some were truly repented..They laments is like this..Oh..Why I laid my hand upon my wife ( murder )..If only..If only I could have been patient…
Other’s have still not realizes what they have done..Hey you..the people outside ( the barred cell )..It is dangerous world out there..Join the sanctuary of safe haven in here…:)
For me I will just say Thank You..You can stay in that stated mind and we will stays Outside..
We can always walk away from this kind of compartment mind Tun..And they in returns will think that we are running away from safety!!
Tun..this will be never end arguments..
But for me..once in a while you will realizes how utmost mighty Allah in giving us them to betterment of our own faith…:)
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..
Hi Tun,
May I seek Tun’s permission to respond to point 7, since it touches on some issues I have once investigated:
John 12 (NKJV)
35 Then Jesus said to them, “A little while longer the light is with you. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness overtake you; he who walks in darkness does not know where he is going.
Ramadan Mubarak to all of you.
How can you keep debating like nothing is happening to your own Muslim brothers?
Read This:
http://www.debka.com/article/21176/
How come, Tun Dr. Mahathir and all those important Sheikhs who are commenting here are not protesting about the massacre of Muslims by Muslims in Syria and Lybia like they are protesting against the Jews and Israel?
If this would be done by Jews or Zionists, you would stand on your feet and shout with your most power, burn the Israeli flag while calling “death to Israel”.
Your double standard of human lives is your own enemy which will destroy you as humans and is transforming you to become beasts. When evil is done, you must have a stand point no matter who did that evil, even your own brother did it.
Rivers are getting red from the blood in Syria and you are packing your bellies every night after fasting, like nothing happens. Your brothers are massacred during the holy Ramadan and you don’t even send a flotilla to help them, to rescue some of them. Why? Packing your fat bellies is much more important every night.
I’m a Jew and a Zionist and I have the courage to bash you for your evil and double standard. You know well that I’m right but you have no courage to meet the facts. The facts of truth and the fact of your own brothers’ blood. Your interpretation of Islam doesn’t bother the murdered of your own faith.
Wassalam.
Hanan,
Jewish, Zionist,
Israel.
Dear Tun,
May I quote brother Aziz. He commented about azan,
///All prophets throughtout Islam went through tough time. That is normal because what prophets brings will always go against the belief of the majority of people. If you really read the Koran, you will know this without having me to remind you again. Just because all prophets went through tough time, does it allow you to mention all their names in your azan or prayers? Even Azan today is not the correct azan that was practiced by Muhammad or other prophets. They would never allow the followers of Islam to mention their names beside God’s name. But today you see people in Malaysia do azan differently compare to people in Iran or other parts of the world. They add up the azan just to please them.///
I have prayed at Masjidil Haram in Mecca, Masjid Nabawi in Madinah, Central mosque in London, they all recited the azan exactly the same wording as that are found in Malaysia. This is the first time that I, Tun or may be other muslims in this blog, hear such a thing as azan minus ‘Mohammada Rasullullah’ as imagined by you, brother Aziz. Your version has deviated from Islam. Bertaubatlah dan balik ke pangkal jalan, brother Aziz.
amin tan
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to pen my thoughts here again.
Dear FROM_JB,
Please read the verse:
3:102] O you who believe, you shall observe God as He should be observed, and do not die except as Submitters.
Believers are United
[3:103] You shall hold fast to the rope of God, all of you, and do not be divided. Recall God’s blessings upon you – you used to be enemies and He reconciled your hearts. By His grace, you became brethren. You were at the brink of a pit of fire, and He saved you therefrom. God thus explains His revelations for you, that you may be guided.
[3:104] Let there be a community of you who invite to what is good, advocate righteousness, and forbid evil. These are the winners.
[3:105] Do not be like those who became divided and disputed, despite the clear proofs that were given to them. For these have incurred a terrible retribution.
[3:106] The day will come when some faces will be brightened (with joy), while other faces will be darkened (with misery). As for those whose faces are darkened, they will be asked, “Did you not disbelieve after believing? Therefore, suffer the retribution for your disbelief.”
[3:107] As for those whose faces are brightened, they will rejoice in God’s mercy; they abide therein forever.
[3:108] These are God’s revelations; we recite them to you, truthfully. God does not wish any hardship for the people.
[3:109] To God belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth, and all matters are controlled by God.
The Best Community
[3:110] You are the best community ever raised among the people: you advocate righteousness and forbid evil, and you believe in God. If the followers of the scripture believed, it would be better for them. Some of them do believe, but the majority of them are wicked.
[3:111] They can never harm you, beyond insulting you. If they fight you, they will turn around and flee. They can never win.
[3:112] They shall be humiliated whenever you encounter them, unless they uphold God’s covenant, as well as their peace covenants with you. They have incurred wrath from God, and, consequently, they are committed to disgrace. This is because they rejected God’s revelations, and killed the prophets unjustly. This is because they disobeyed and transgressed.
Another proof from another chapter:
Religious Sects Condemned
[6:159] Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with you. Their judgment rests with God, then He will inform them of everything they had done.
[6:160] Whoever does a righteous work receives the reward for ten, and the one who commits a sin is requited for only one. No one suffers the slightest injustice.
[6:161] Say, “My Lord has guided me in a straight path – the perfect religion of Abraham, monotheism. He never was an idol worshiper.”
[6:162] Say, “My Contact Prayers (Salat), my worship practices, my life and my death, are all devoted absolutely to God alone, the Lord of the universe.
[6:163] “He has no partner. This is what I am commanded to believe, and I am the first to submit.”
[6:164] Say, “Shall I seek other than God as a lord, when He is the Lord of all things? No soul benefits except from its own works, and none bears the burden of another. Ultimately, you return to your Lord, then He informs you regarding all your disputes.”
[6:165] He is the One who made you inheritors of the earth, and He raised some of you above others in rank, in order to test you in accordance with what He has given you. Surely, your Lord is efficient in enforcing retribution, and He is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
So are you saying by having Syafie, Maliki, Hambali, Hanafi and God knows what else would bring the people together to believing in God? Maybe you have not been to India or Pakistan where they have extremist who follow blindly what they Imam teach them. They even pray on behalf of some of them to get mercy from Allah. This is idol worship. I am talking about the whole world not just in Malaysia. I have been to Pakistan few times, and the people over there are very extremist when it comes to obeying Imam. As if the Imam is prophet to them. It may not be so bad in Malaysia, but we still have people like Nik Aziz who is always right and the best in the world. Anything come out of his mouth must be right. And we have Imam like this all over the world brother. All all the way from Middle East to Africa to Asia and to some parts of Europe as well. Can you imagine how divided are we? All people are following their own way of doing things when Al Quran clearly stated that we need to follow Al Quran only. Can you imagine the blessing God will give us if we all, submit ourselves to Allah alone and follow the Quran only?
You see around the world today, wars and disaster happening and it does not choose a country or religions. It just hit anywhere according to God’s wills. But we never look at ourselves and think for a second, are we doing the right thing? Is there anything wrong with our way of worshiping Allah? Since Allah promise us that he can give us happiness in the life and the Hereafter but only if we deserve it. Allah does not break His promise.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
Let me share surah Muhammad with our brother Wajaperak. Since he is too busy reading Hadith, I think I need to show him exactly what Muhammad utter during his lifetime to spread Islam.
Sura 47: Muhammad (Muhammad)
Number of verses in Sura: 38
Order of revelation: 95
[47:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[47:1] Those who disbelieve and repel from the path of God, He nullifies their works.
[47:2] Those who believe and work righteousness, and believe in what was sent down to Muhammad – which is the truth from their Lord – He remits their sins, and blesses them with contentment.
[47:3] This is because those who disbelieve are following falsehood, while those who believe are following the truth from their Lord. God thus cites for the people their examples.
[47:4] If you encounter (in war) those who disbelieve, you may strike the necks. If you take them as captives you may set them free or ransom them, until the war ends. Had God willed, He could have granted you victory, without war. But He thus tests you by one another. As for those who get killed in the cause of God, He will never put their sacrifice to waste.
[47:5] He will guide them, and bless them with contentment.
[47:6] He will admit them into Paradise, that He described to them.
[47:7] O you who believe, if you support God, He will support you, and strengthen your foothold.
[47:8] Those who disbelieve incur misery; He causes their works to be utterly in vain.
[47:9] That is because they hated what God revealed and consequently, He nullifies their works.
[47:10] Did they not roam the earth and see the consequences for those before them? God destroyed their works; all disbelievers will suffer the same fate.
[47:11] This is because God is the Lord of those who believe, while the disbelievers have no lord.
[47:12] God admits those who believe and lead a righteous life into gardens with flowing streams. As for those who disbelieve, they live and eat like the animals eat, then end up in the hellfire.
[47:13] Many a community was much stronger than the community that evicted you from your town; when we annihilated them, no one could help them.
[47:14] Are those enlightened by their Lord the same as those whose evil works are adorned in their eyes, and they follow their own opinions?
[47:15] The allegory of Paradise that is promised for the righteous is this: it has rivers of unpolluted water, and rivers of fresh milk, and rivers of wine – delicious for the drinkers – and rivers of strained honey. They have all kinds of fruits therein, and forgiveness from their Lord. (Are they better) or those who abide forever in the hellfire, and drink hellish water that tears up their intestines?
[47:16] Some of them listen to you, then as soon as they leave they ask those who were enlightened, “What did he just say?” God thus seals their hearts and, consequently, they follow only their opinions.
[47:17] As for those who are guided, He augments their guidance, and grants them their righteousness.
[47:18] Are they waiting until the Hour comes to them suddenly? All the signs thereof have already come. Once the Hour comes to them, how will they benefit from their message?
Laa Elaaha Ellaa Allah: First Commandment
[47:19] You shall know that: “There is no other God beside God,”* and ask forgiveness of your sins and the sins of all believing men and women. God is fully aware of your decisions and your ultimate destiny.
*47:19 Significantly, the “First Pillar” of religion is stated in the Sura entitled Muhammad, and is utterly devoted to God alone. Muhammad’s name was added by his idolizers, against his will.
Exposing the Hypocrites
[47:20] Those who believed said: “When will a new Sura be revealed?” But when a straightforward Sura was revealed, wherein fighting was mentioned, you would see those who harbored doubts in their hearts looking at you, as if death had already come to them. They were thus exposed.
Proof of Faith During Muhammad’s Era
[47:21] Obedience and righteous utterances are expected of them. If only they showed confidence in God, when mobilization was called for, it would have been better for them.
[47:22] Is it also your intention that as soon as you leave you will commit evil and mistreat your relatives?
[47:23] It is those who incurred a curse from God, whereby He rendered them deaf and blind.
Study the Quran
[47:24] Why do they not study the Quran carefully? Do they have locks on their minds?
[47:25] Surely, those who slide back, after the guidance has been manifested to them, the devil has enticed them and led them on.
[47:26] This is because they said to those who hated what God has sent down, “We will obey you in certain matters.” God fully knows their secret conspiracies.
[47:27] How will it be for them when the angels put them to death? They will beat them on their faces and their rear ends.
[47:28] This is because they followed what angered God and hated the things that please Him. Consequently, He has nullified their works.
[47:29] Did those who harbor doubts in their hearts think that God will not bring out their evil thoughts?
[47:30] If we will, we can expose them for you, so that you can recognize them just by looking at them. However, you can recognize them by the way they talk. God is fully aware of all your works.
[47:31] We will certainly put you to the test, in order to distinguish those among you who strive, and steadfastly persevere. We must expose your true qualities.
[47:32] Those who disbelieve and repel from the path of God, and oppose the messenger after the guidance has been manifested for them, will never hurt God in the least. Instead, He nullifies their works.
[47:33] O you who believe, you shall obey God, and obey the messenger. Otherwise, all your works will be in vain.
The Great Disaster
[47:34] Those who disbelieve and repel from the path of God, then die as disbelievers, God will never forgive them.
[47:35] Therefore, you shall not waver and surrender in pursuit of peace, for you are guaranteed victory, and God is with you. He will never waste your efforts.
[47:36] This worldly life is no more than play and vanity. But if you believe and lead a righteous life, He will reward you, without asking you for any money.
[47:37] If He asked you for money, to the extent of creating a hardship for you, you might have become stingy, and your hidden evil might be exposed.
Warning to the Arabs*
[47:38] You are invited to spend in the cause of God, but some of you turn stingy. The stingy are stingy towards their own souls. God is Rich, while you are poor. If you turn away, He will substitute other people in your place, and they will not be like you.
*47:38 The Quran was given to the Arabs, in their language, for 1400 years, but they clearly rejected it and refused to believe that it is complete; they fabricated Hadith and Sunna.
To Amin Tan, you said when Muhammad was alive, he gave a different syahadah to the one mentioned in 47:19. How could it be? Where do you get it? From Hadith? Definitely not from Quran. So again here there is contradiction. So please tell me, which one should I follow? The one from Muhammad’s mouth which is from Quran or Hadith from Abu Hurairah, Muslim and etc? If you want to argue about Muhammad, you should take only from Quran because it is from Allah.
All other religions like Jewish and Christians experienced the same thing before. If you read the history and study the event, how did the religion of God become religion of men, and people deviate from the original teaching of Jewish and Christians.
For Jewish people, they used Thamoud/Gemerah to explain the Torah because to them, without those 2, none would understand Torah.
Same goes to Christians, when Jesus asked his people, none of them believe him because they were too ‘taksub’ with the teaching of rabbis before Christian.
And end up Jesus was killed. After he died, Pope created Christian to be his own religion, different altogether from the right teaching of Jesus according to Bible. And now you see Christianity has become the religion of Pope and he created the Trinity concept to divert everyone else. Now they have more than 1 billion followers around the world.
Then Muhammad came with the last and complete book, Al Quran. He preach Islam from the time received the prophet-hood/messenger-ship at the age of 40 til he died at 63. It took him 23 years to preach Islam.
But sadly after he died, people created another book called Hadith/Sunnah just like the Jewish and Christian did before. Therefore people divert from the correct teaching of Islam according to Al Quran. Today we have 2 rules for everything. One is from Al Quran (GOD) and the other is from Hadith(Human made). Now the majority of people would say, without Hadith, muslims would not understand al Quran. Same as the Jewish said before about the Torah.
This is God’s system. He will expose who are the real believers who believe in His revelations. And the so called scholars of Islam today said that without Hadith, we cannot understand Al Quran. How dare they say that? They think they are smarter than God now? You must use your logic brother.
All revelations were given to Muhammad during the Night of Destiny. All of it. But then Muhammad released it slowly from time to time in the period of 23 years of his life. So that people at the time can accept Islam slowly and change slowly. All the ayat in the Quran has nothing to do with anyone. It was given to Muhammad to mankind no matter who they are. It has nothing to do with Sahabat, Imams, or whoever. Not even Prophet. If you really study Quran, you would know this. All messengers duty is to deliver the message. For those who do not accept the message, God will punish them.
So please do not tell me with your sick argument that God is powerless to teach the Quran to us. He is the teacher of Quran.
[55:1] The Most Gracious.
[55:2] Teacher of the Quran.
Thank you Tun
Dear Tun,
With relation to this subject, I had come across in other from Islamic forum the AMMAN MESSAGE which touches on this subject.
Please refer to the link below,
http://www.ammanmessage.com/
Initiated in Jordan, this declaration is to answer 3 important question with regards to Islam in this current age which are
(1) Who is a Muslim? (2) Is it permissible to declare someone an apostate (takfir)? (3) Who has the right to undertake issuing fatwas (legal rulings)?
The rationale of this message is,
” it provides a basis for unity and a solution to infighting, but also for non-Muslims. For the safeguarding of the legal methodologies of Islam (the Mathahib) necessarily means inherently preserving traditional Islam’s internal ‘checks and balances’. It thus assures balanced Islamic solutions for essential issues like human rights; women’s rights; freedom of religion; legitimate jihad; good citizenship of Muslims in non-Muslim countries, and just and democratic government. It also exposes the illegitimate opinions of radical fundamentalists and terrorists from the point of view of true Islam. ”
This message/declaration was endorsed by the leading Islamic scholar all over the world (in total 500), and Malaysia had also endorsed it.
The three point of Amman Message is as below,
(1) Whosoever is an adherent to one of the four Sunni schools (Mathahib) of Islamic jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi`i and Hanbali), the two Shi’i schools of Islamic jurisprudence (Ja`fari and Zaydi), the Ibadi school of Islamic jurisprudence and the Thahiri school of Islamic jurisprudence, is a Muslim. Declaring that person an apostate is impossible and impermissible. Verily his (or her) blood, honour, and property are inviolable. Moreover, in accordance with the Shaykh Al-Azhar’s fatwa, it is neither possible nor permissible to declare whosoever subscribes to the Ash`ari creed or whoever practices real Tasawwuf (Sufism) an apostate. Likewise, it is neither possible nor permissible to declare whosoever subscribes to true Salafi thought an apostate.
Equally, it is neither possible nor permissible to declare as apostates any other group of Muslims who believes in God, Glorified and Exalted be He, and His Messenger (may peace and blessings be upon him), the pillars of faith (Iman), and the five pillars of Islam, and does not deny any necessarily self-evident tenet of religion.
(2) There exists more in common between the various schools of Islamic jurisprudence than there is difference between them. The adherents to the eight schools of Islamic jurisprudence are in agreement as regards the basic principles of Islam. All believe in Allah (God), Glorified and Exalted be He, the One and the Unique; that the Noble Qur’an is the Revealed Word of God preserved and protected by God, Exalted be He, from any change or aberration; and that our master Muhammad, may blessings and peace be upon him, is a Prophet and Messenger unto all mankind. All are in agreement about the five pillars of Islam: the two testaments of faith (shahadatayn); the ritual prayer (salat); almsgiving (zakat); fasting the month of Ramadan (sawm), and the Hajj to the sacred house of God (in Mecca). All are also in agreement about the foundations of belief: belief in Allah (God), His angels, His scriptures, His messengers, and in the Day of Judgment, in Divine Providence in good and in evil. Disagreements between the ‘ulama (scholars) of the eight schools of Islamic jurisprudence are only with respect to the ancillary branches of religion (furu`) and some fundamentals (usul) [of the religion of Islam]. Disagreement with respect to the ancillary branches of religion (furu`) is a mercy. Long ago it was said that variance in opinion among the ‘ulama (scholars) “is a mercy”.
(3) Acknowledgement of the schools of Islamic jurisprudence (Mathahib) within Islam means adhering to a fundamental methodology in the issuance of fatwas: no one may issue a fatwa without the requisite qualifications of knowledge. No one may issue a fatwa without adhering to the methodology of the schools of Islamic jurisprudence. No one may claim to do unlimited Ijtihad and create a new opinion or issue unacceptable fatwas that take Muslims out of the principles and certainties of the Shari`ah and what has been established in respect of its schools of jurisprudence.
Sallam
Alhamdulillah,
Salam Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
1. Salah interpretasi terhadap Agama Islam dan telah tergelincir jauh dari ajaran Agama Islam sebenar di Msia ini diantaranya ialah PAS Nik Aziz dan penyokongnya.
2. Mereka berjuang untuk Parti. Bagi mencapai kemenangan, mereka menghalalkan apa jua cara, walaupun cara itu amat salah di sisi Agama Islam sebenar, seperti mengata Allah mencarut, mengkafirkan org Islam yg solat bertakbir Allahu Akbar dll…. amat banyak …..masya Allah,.
3. Tidak cukup dengan itu, orang PAS Nik Aziz melempar pula provokasi teramat jahat kepada penganut AGAMA ISLAM sebenar.
4. Penganut AGAMA ISLAM sebenar ialah yang bukan penganut Parti Islam PAS.
PAS Nik Aziz dan penyokong wajiblah bertaubat ya.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh…
Tun..minta ampun dan maaf jika menggangu ketenteraman Tun..Harap sudi di izinkan ruangan..
[[abdulazizomar]]
[[Please allow me to explain some details of the Quran to our friend Wajaperak who may have missed the clear statement in the Quran that mentioned about the month of Ramadhan and we need to fast therein]]
Alas..lo..and behold..
I am asking you the methodology of the how it is done..But what we have here as usual is the giving run around..
Now..I am spelling it for you..
What is rukun puasa?
What breaks the fast?
What time is proper to breaks fast…1 oclock or 2 oclock?
Is it ok not to prays when you are fasting because nothing mention in Al Quran the way to fast..?
And last but not least..
How fast is fast?….( Pun intended )..:)
And no..no..Do not..I repeat.. do not mentioned any without the verses in Al Quran which in the mushaf is not present..
Just how are you going to pull the fast one??
[[The above verse clearly stated when we should Fast but our brother Wajaperak still do not see it because maybe he does not read Quran]]..So sad…..
Too true mister..It is so sad that there is here in Tun blog people tries hard and very hard to propagates Al Quran but Al Quran disown them like abdazizomar..
C* People like me..I mean..Ignorant people like me..Read and recites Al Quran Taddarus in our mosque..The Sunnah practice that of course you did not practice..And why..Sadly..Taddarus practice is not mentioned in Al Quran to the specific letter..
[2:131] When his Lord said to him, “Submit,” he said, “I submit to the Lord of the universe.”
C*..And people like me..join the concregation in the mosque because Allah decreed it in Al Quran..Which verse? You tell me because I don’t want to pull the fast one on you which did not follow this verse that “memakmurkan” masjid..Muslim should feels embarass that they preach something they do not practice like in Surah Al Baqarah and Surah Al Saf.
Tsk..Tsk..and now where is the sand that I should buries my head into??
[[So all Pillars of Islam came through Ibrahim and Muhammad was the follower of Ibrahim. What does it mean here? It means that Islam came before Muhammad was born.]]
You were wrong mister,is wrong and will be wronged in this statement.Islam commenced with Nabi Adam a.s..And I will not waste my breath in the details..Why?..Is clearly stated in Al Quran…Incik..lu tak tau ka?Tarak baca??
Therefore the practice was already done by all the prophets before him.]]
Too true but what you did not know is Allah modifies the practices for Umat Muhammad present convenience.In Nabi Musa a.s the solah is 50 rakaat.It was amended to 5 only for Umat Muhammad s.a.w and so on..
By the way how do you know that the practices is inherited through time?..You weren’t there..It is definetely not in Al quran..You read the Darwin Chronicle?..Or Rashad Khalifa whispers them to you in your dreams??..:)
[[He was the last prophet who has been given the duty to deliver to perfect book, Al Quran to mankind. He did not bring anything else]]
Damn you abdazizomar!!..Al Quran is not a book!!..What is a book?? They consisted mainly of papers..And what is Al Quran by comparision??
Al Quran itu wahyu Allah.
FirmanNya yang di bawakan oleh Jibril a.s..
Kalam Allah tidak bersuara dan tidak berbentuk..
Dari Lauh al-Mahfudz ke Baitul Izzah..
Di malam Lailatul Qadar..
Kalam Allah di jelmakan kepada Rasullulah s.a.w dalam
bentuk langsung oleh Jibril a.s..atau..
di campakkan langsung oleh Allah ke dalam qalbu Rasul..
Atau dalam bentuk gemerincingan loceng..Paling sukar
bagi Rasullulah s.a.w..
Selesai sahaja Baginda s.a.w menerima wahyu segera
Baginda s.a.w perintahkan..Tulis..Tulislah bagi ku..
Dengan pilihan khusus..hanya beberapa orang sahaja yang
menjadi penulis wahyu..Terkenal ialah Zaid Ibn Thabit..
Zaid menulis wahyu di tulang-tulang dan di “Qhirtas”..
Di masa hayatnya Rasullulah s.a.w khatam Quran bersama
Jibril a.s setiap tahun sekali…dan dua di akhir hayat
Baginda s.a.w..
Catatan Al Quran ini dikumpulkan oleh As Siddiq atas
saranan Al Faruq..Di bukukan oleh Zun Nurain..
Diberikan baris dan titik oleh Abu Aswad kerana
kekeliruan Ajam entang”harakah”,”sukun”,”syad”,
“mad”,”saktah”,”tanwin” dan yang lain..
Dari sahabat kepada tabiin dan tabiin tabiin..
Cuba di cemarkan oleh “makhluk” tetapi Al Quran tetap
Qadim..Kurun berkurun zaman berzaman..Di bawa oleh
Syeikh Hafaz dalam kapal perdagangan..
Di bacakan di hadapan Sultan..di ajarkan..di kekalkan di
pondok-pondok pengajian..
Qiraat Asyara – Syu’bah – Hafs – Warsy sekadar beberapa
jenis bacaan..
Dan nikmat Tuhan kamu yang manakah kamu dustakan??
Buku konon…Allah ialah Khaliq..Selain Allah ialah Makhluk.
Al Quran itu Mushaf..
Selainnya ialah BUKU!!
Dan siapakah yang buta? Di manakah yang buta??
“Yang buta itu bukanlah mata..tetapi hati yang di dalam
dada!!”..
[[You do not need to ask me if which water to use to take wuduk. You were taught by your father when you were little. Same goes to me]]
“Adakah (mereka akan menurut juga) sekalipun datuk nenek mereka tidak mengetahui apa-apa dan tidak pula mendapat hidayah petunjuk? Al-Quran(5:104)
[[If you want to pen your thoughts, you better bring prove from the Quran and not your mumbling here]]
Ha..Ho..so sad..
“ Dialah yang menurunkan kepadamu (wahai Muhammad) Kitab Suci Al-Quran. Sebahagian besar dari Al-Quran itu ialah ayat-ayat “Muhkamaat” (yang tetap, tegas dan nyata maknanya serta jelas maksudnya); ayat-ayat Muhkamaat itu ialah ibu (atau pokok) isi Al-Quran dan yang lain lagi ialah ayat-ayat “Mutasyaabihaat” (yang samar-samar, tidak terang maksudnya). Oleh sebab itu (timbullah faham yang berlainan menurut kandungan hati masing-masing) adapun orang-orang yang ada dalam hatinya kecenderungan ke arah kesesatan, maka mereka selalu menurut apa yang samar-samar dari Al-Quran untuk mencari fitnah dan mencari-cari Takwilnya (memutarkan maksudnya menurut yang disukainya). Padahal tidak ada yang mengetahui Takwilnya (tafsir maksudnya yang sebenar) melainkan Allah dan orang-orang yang tetap teguh serta mendalam pengetahuannya dalam ilmu-ilmu agama, berkata: Kami beriman kepadanya, semuanya itu datangnya dari sisi Tuhan kami dan tiadalah yang mengambil pelajaran dan peringatan melainkan orang-orang yang berfikiran.” (Ali Imran: 7)
Sepatutnya aku merasa sangat malu pada Allah..tapi apa boleh buat..Orang yang tidak belajar hadith tidak akan mengerti tentang bagaimana kesah Rasullulah s.a.w mencium Hasan dan Husin..Arab Badwi itu memandang hairan..Engkau berbuat begitu Rasululah s.a.w..Aku ada anak ramai dan tidak berbuat demikian..
Rasulullah s.a.w menyatakan..
“Bagaimana aku dapat memberi jika Allah tidak memberi??”..
Apa yang di beri itu…Kefahaman…Lagi..
Belas kasihan dan sifat Rahmat..
Surah AlBaqarah. Ayat 269.
Allah memberikan Hikmat kebijaksanaan (ilmu yang berguna) kepada sesiapa yang dikehendakiNya (menurut aturan yang ditentukanNya) dan sesiapa yang diberikan hikmat itu maka sesungguhnya dia telah diberikan kebaikan yang banyak. Dan tiadalah yang dapat mengambil pengajaran (dan peringatan) melainkan orang-orang yang menggunakan akal fikirannya’..
Menentang Allah..melekehkah Rasullulah s.a.w..memperbodohkan sahabat dan memandang mulia diri sendiri adalah perbuatan mengundang malapetaka..
Ya Allah..kau selamatkan hambaMu ini dari kedunguan ini..
Ribuan terima kasih Tun
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to explain some details of the Quran to our friend Wajaperak who may have missed the clear statement in the Quran that mentioned about the month of Ramadhan and we need to fast therein.
Fasting Emphasized and Modified*
[2:183] O you who believe, fasting is decreed for you, as it was decreed for those before you, that you may attain salvation.
*2:183-187 Like all duties in Submission, fasting was decreed through Abraham (22:78). Prior to revelation of the Quran, sexual intercourse was prohibited throughout the fasting period. This rule is modified in 2:187 to allow intercourse during the nights of Ramadan.
[2:184] Specific days (are designated for fasting); if one is ill or traveling, an equal number of other days may be substituted. Those who can fast, but with great difficulty, may substitute feeding one poor person for each day of breaking the fast. If one volunteers (more righteous works), it is better. But fasting is the best for you, if you only knew.
[2:185] Ramadan is the month during which the Quran was revealed, providing guidance for the people, clear teachings, and the statute book. Those of you who witness this month shall fast therein. Those who are ill or traveling may substitute the same number of other days. God wishes for you convenience, not hardship, that you may fulfill your obligations, and to glorify God for guiding you, and to express your appreciation.
God Answers the Prayers of “His Servants”
[2:186] When My servants ask you about Me, I am always near. I answer their prayers when they pray to Me. The people shall respond to Me and believe in Me, in order to be guided.
[2:187] Permitted for you is sexual intercourse with your wives during the nights of fasting. They are the keepers of your secrets, and you are the keepers of their secrets. God knew that you used to betray your souls, and He has redeemed you, and has pardoned you. Henceforth, you may have intercourse with them, seeking what God has permitted for you. You may eat and drink until the white thread of light becomes distinguishable from the dark thread of night at dawn. Then, you shall fast until sunset. Sexual intercourse is prohibited if you decide to retreat to the masjid (during the last ten days of Ramadan). These are God’s laws; you shall not transgress them. God thus clarifies His revelations for the people, that they may attain salvation.
The above verse clearly stated when we should Fast but our brother Wajaperak still do not see it because maybe he does not read Quran. Perhaps he was so focus on the Hadith and he make the Hadith greater than the Quran. That is the problem with Muslim today, they take word of men over word of God. So sad…..
Abraham: Original Messenger of Islam
[22:78] You shall strive for the cause of God as you should strive for His cause. He has chosen you and has placed no hardship on you in practicing your religion – the religion of your father Abraham. He is the one who named you “Submitters” originally. Thus, the messenger shall serve as a witness among you, and you shall serve as witnesses among the people. Therefore, you shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and hold fast to God; He is your Lord, the best Lord and the best Supporter.
Abraham Delivered All the Practices of Submission (Islam)
[2:127] As Abraham raised the foundations of the shrine, together with Ismail (they prayed): “Our Lord, accept this from us. You are the Hearer, the Omniscient.
[2:128] “Our Lord, make us submitters to You, and from our descendants let there be a community of submitters to You. Teach us the rites of our religion, and redeem us. You are the Redeemer, Most Merciful.
[2:129] “Our Lord, and raise among them a messenger to recite to them Your revelations, teach them the scripture and wisdom, and purify them. You are the Almighty, Most Wise.”
[2:130] Who would forsake the religion of Abraham, except one who fools his own soul? We have chosen him in this world, and in the Hereafter he will be with the righteous.
[2:131] When his Lord said to him, “Submit,” he said, “I submit to the Lord of the universe.”
[2:132] Moreover, Abraham exhorted his children to do the same, and so did Jacob: “O my children, God has pointed out the religion for you; do not die except as submitters.”
[2:133] Had you witnessed Jacob on his death bed; he said to his children, “What will you worship after I die?” They said, “We will worship your God; the God of your fathers Abraham, Ismail, and Isaac; the one God. To Him we are submitters.”
[2:134] Such is a community from the past. They are responsible for what they earned, and you are responsible for what you earned. You are not answerable for anything they have done.
Submission (Islam): Abraham’s Religion*
[2:135] They said, “You have to be Jewish or Christian, to be guided.” Say, “We follow the religion of Abraham – monotheism – he never was an idol worshiper.”
Abraham
[16:120] Abraham was indeed an exemplary vanguard in his submission to God, a monotheist who never worshiped idols.
[16:121] Because he was appreciative of His Lord’s blessings, He chose him and guided him in a straight path.
[16:122] We granted him happiness in this life, and in the Hereafter he will be with the righteous.
Muhammad: A Follower of Abraham*
[16:123] Then we inspired you (Muhammad) to follow the religion of Abraham,* the monotheist; he never was an idol worshiper.
*16:123 This informs us that all religious practices, which came to us through Abraham, were intact at the time of Muhammad (see 22:78 )
So all Pillars of Islam came through Ibrahim and Muhammad was the follower of Ibrahim. What does it mean here? It means that Islam came before Muhammad was born. Therefore the practice was already done by all the prophets before him. He was the last prophet who has been given the duty to deliver to perfect book, Al Quran to mankind. He did not bring anything else. Not any other book. Why are you busy reading all the volumes of Hadith but you can’t even bother to read 114 chapters of Al Quran and study the details of it? What is wrong with your logic?
You rather go and study book published by Muslim, Abu Hurairah and etc but not Al Quran from Allah that given to Muhammad to deliver to me, you and all people of the world.
You do not need to ask me if which water to use to take wuduk. You were taught by your father when you were little. Same goes to me. It is the blessing from Allah that he give us the brain to think. We do not need Hadith to explain regarding this. In fact, Hadith was not even there during the time of Ibrahim, Ismail, Yusof, Isa, and Muhammad. So how do you think they know which water to use? Do they have Hadith to teach them? Please use your logic brother.
All prophets went through difficult time during their dakwah because a lot people could not accept worshiping Allah alone. All prophets brought the same message which is to believe in Allah and The Day of Judgment and lead a righteous life. And many of them could not accept that. If you really ready Quran, you would now. Go read yourself to understand it.
It shows your hypocrisy when you said where in Quran do they mention about Fasting. Are you saying that God is forgetful? Are you saying that God needs another Imam to explain what He forgot to inform us? God can give us thousands of volume of Quran for us to read and study but He only give us one Book. So therefore, stick to that one. God is not short of words. Remember that.
Let me share with you about greatness of Allah
Greatness of God
We learn from Verse 39:67 that God’s greatness is far beyond human comprehension – the verse states that all seven universes are “folded within God’s hand.”
[39:67] They can never fathom the greatness of God. The whole earth is within His fist on the Day of Resurrection. In fact, the universes are folded within His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above needing any partners.
We are taught that our universe is the smallest and innermost of seven universes (41:12, 55:33, 67:5, & 72:8-12). Meanwhile, our scientific advances have shown us that our galaxy, the Milky Way, is 100,000 light years across, and that our universe contains a billion such galaxies and a billion trillion stars, plus countless decillions of heavenly bodies. Our universe is estimated to span distances in excess of 20,000,000,000 light years. Count the Stars!
If we take only a quintillion [1,000,000,000,000,000,000] of the stars and simply count them [from 0 to quintillion] one count per second, day and night, this will take 32 billion years (more than the age of the universe). That is how long it will take to just “count” them; but God “created” them. Such is the greatness of God.
We can appreciate the vastness of our universe if we imagine going on a space odyssey. When we leave the planet Earth towards the sun, at the speed of light, we reach the sun after 93,000,000 miles and 8 minutes. It will take us more than 50,000 years at the speed of light to exit our galaxy. From the outer limit of the Milky Way, our planet Earth is invisible. Not even the most powerful telescope can detect our tiny “Earth.”
We have to spend more than 2,000,000 years at the speed of light to reach our next-door galaxy. At least 10,000,000,000 years, at the speed of light, must be spent to reach the outer limit of our universe. From the outer limit of our universe, even the Milky Way is like a speck of dust in a large room.
The second universe surrounds our universe. The third universe is larger than the second, and so on. More accurately, our universe should be considered the seventh universe, surrounded by the sixth universe, which is surrounded by the fifth universe, and so on. Can you imagine the vastness of the first, outermost universe? No number exists to describe the circumference of the first universe. This incomprehensible vastness is “within the fist of God’s hand.” From the outer limit of the outermost universe, where is the planet Earth? How significant is it? On the infinitesimal mote called Earth, such minuscule creatures as Mary, Jesus, and Muhammad lived. Yet, some people set up these powerless humans as gods!
God’s greatness is represented not only by the fact that He holds the seven universes in His hand, but also by the fact that He fully controls every atom, even subatomic components, everywhere in the greater universe (6:59, 10:61, & 34:3)
Above are just some of examples of greatness of God. Many more in Quran if you want to find them. Only if you stop reading Hadith and focus on Quran. Then maybe you will be surprised. So please do not tell me God make Quran not perfect. God knows your innermost thoughts and He is running everything. So please do not tell me we need Hadith to explain Quran.
If you want to pen your thoughts, you better bring prove from the Quran and not your mumbling here.
Thank you Tun!
Askm Tun & rakan bloggers,
Saya nak rujuk jat2011 July 19, 2011 yg menyebut bahawa
“73 golongan Islam di akhir zaman;di mana 72 golongan akan masuk neraka sementara 1 sahaja yang akan masuk syurga”.
Ulasan:
Yg saya belajar 72 golongan itu DITOLAK ( kerana tidak mengamal ibadah mengikut garis pandu olih Allah – jgn amal sesuatu yg kamu tak ada ilmunya – & yg dituntunkan olih Nabi SAW – sesiapa yg mengamal sesuatu bukan amalan ku nabi akan ditolak – ) bermakna ke neraka.
Yang 1 golongan ialah yang mengamalkan ibadah berlandaskan ilmu Quran & Hadith dan semua akan kesyurga akhirnya. Golongan 1 ini berpecah kpd 3 iaitu yg Iman ( terus kesyurga ), munafiq dan fasiq ( dihisab dan akan ke neraka utk menjalankan hukuman yg telah Allah sediakan utk mereka bergantung kpd kesalahan mereka).
Tapi ingat.. satu hari di akhirat sama dgn seribu tahun di dunia… olih itu sanggup ke kita duduk dineraka penuh azab Allah yg dahshat, sungguhpun sejenak?.
To AbdulAzizOmar,
I think you are a bit mixed up here.
You see, the sunni mazhab imam and ulama do not create rules and regulation from thin air.
I think you did not spend enough time in proper course of Islamic education and get carried away with your own imagination.
There are four imams in the Sunni mazhab and whenever they pointed out a ruling in syariah, they without fail will make a reference to the Quran and Hadith.
The argument you are drifting to is to point out that the Hadith cannot be used as a reference.
Kassim Ahmad once raised this issue long time ago and religious council had declared that his thought and his idea of Islam was misguided and invalid.
As pointed out from WajaPerak, how are you going to perform the prayers , ablution and so forth, without the guidance from our prophet through the hadith?
The current practice by Malaysian Muslim is the Syafie Mazhab and if you are trying to challange the integrity of this Mazhab, please DO NOT USE english translation of the Al-Quran to present your argument.
Imam Syafie is not some Tom Dick and Harry. Please read the Quran and understand Islam properly before challenging the existing establishment of the Sunni Mazhab which have been around for some time.
Dearest Tun,
Please allow me to refer onto Abdul Aziz Omar’s comments as quoted below,
Why do you think I change the basics and the fundamental things about Islam? Just because I say ‘There is no God except Allah’ without saying Muhammad is the messenger of God? Every Muslim know that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. Im not questioning that. And I am not trying to be clever here. I am just saying that Muhammad never go around during his lifetime to Dakwah others using his name in syahadah because you cant find one in the Koran. And if you really read the Koran, you will see all the conversations between the prophets and the disbelievers. Give it, Aaron, Moses, Noah, Jesus, Job, Lot and even Muhammad, they only ask the people to worship God alone. The syahadah was never to mention their names, but instead Allah’s name only. Why is it hard for you to accept that? Muhammad brought the message which was the Koran but he never ask people to worship him or idolize him.
Dear uncle abdul aziz omar,
The prophet Muhammad did go teaching people about Islam and spreading the proclaimation of faith, “There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of god”. It is not something which has been added on with time by Muslims who are “taksub” to Muhammad. It is a simple statement to believe that there are no other deities other than Allah and Muhammad was the messenger of the revelation (wahyu) of Al-Quran to spread the words of Allah to mankind.
To understand the Quran, one needs to know the sirah- which is the life of the prophet Muhammad and the asbabul nuzul (reasons of the verses being sent down). This is simply because it was sent down during his time.
Unfortunately we are not privileged to be born during the time of prophethood to be able to see the teachings and explanation behind the verses of Quran now. True, you are right, the prophet did not refer to Hadith and sunnah back then- because the sayings of the hadith and the practical aspects of the sunnah are the words and actions of the prophet. It would have been silly to think “hold on, let me refer to the book of “me”,and what did Abu Hurairah wrote about me to explain about this chapter that Allah has sent to me” now. Hadith and sunnah complements the Al-quran. The only worry that we muslims need to be careful of is to read the ones which are sahih, hence, comes in the importance of reading the Sirah, the story of the holy prophet and sahabahs.
A popular and short surah many Muslims read in their daily prayers; surah Al-Masad(111) which was sent down as a sequel of his uncle,nicknamed Abu Lahab (who was one of the most hostiles opponents of God’s messenger and the words that have been propagated) for mocking Muhammad when he first spread the proclamation of faith openly in Makkah. To understand the surah,
Ibn Isĥāq related the following report by Rabī`ah ibn `Abbād al-Daylī: “When I was young I once watched, with my father, God’s Messenger preaching Islam to the Arab tribes, saying ‘O sons of… (calling their respective tribal names), I am God’s Messenger sent to order you to submit to, and worship Him alone, invoking nothing else beside Him, and to believe in me and protect me until I carry out what God has entrusted to me.’ A cross-eyed, bright-faced man was behind him, who used to say, after he had finished, ‘O sons of… This man wants you to forsake al-Lāt and al-`Uzzā [two prominent idols worshipped by the pagan Arabs] and your allies of the jinn, the children of Mālik ibn Aqmas and to substitute for them these innovations and nonsense he has come up with. Do not listen to him, nor follow what he preaches.’ I asked my father who that man was and he told me that it was Abū Lahab, the Prophet’s uncle.” [Related by Aĥmad and al-Ţabarānī.]
Now then, this is not to say that believing in the words conveyed by Ahmad and al-Tabarani is not believing in the oneness of Allah and Quran not being syumul (perfect). Truth to be told, I don’t understand Arabic, even if I did, I would need to have a clever scholar to interpret it for me, hence I would need to refer to the translation of it, and I have made this reference from Fizilalil Quran by Syed Qutb.
Amin tan’s daughter
ps- I have always been a big fan of Tun. As I introduce myself as a Malaysian in England, my fellow colleagues,patients and friends have always quoted Tun Dr Mahathir as one of the best leaders and a great Prime Minister of Malaysia.
Koran said:
(intercede with Him except by His permission!)
A member here said/asked:
(when Allah stated clearly the opposite.) meaning no intercession
LET ME EXPLAIN
One member asked:
(
1. So please give me reason:
2. why do you believe that Muhammad
3. can intercede
4. on your behalf
5. when Allah stated clearly the opposite.
)
let me address no 5:
(intercede with Him except by His permission!)
(5. when Allah stated clearly the opposite.)
the Koran mentioned many verse about the intercession, it looks like you did not read and study all of them so you came to the wrong argument
I give you one example:
@ The greatness of Allah; the greatest verse in the Koran 2:255
2:255 Allah, there is no god except He, the Living, the Everlasting. Neither dozing, nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. Who is he that shall (intercede with Him except by His permission!) He knows what will be before their hands and what was behind them, and they do not comprehend anything of His Knowledge except what He willed. His Seat embraces the heavens and the earth, and the preserving of them does not weary Him. He is the High, the Great.
DO YOU NEED MORE? READ KORAN AND ITS TAFSEER
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Dear Tun,
May I comment on HBT 456 on 28 July
////Good evening Tun,
321. Comment by amin tan July 28, 2011 at 1:11 pm has proven that when he gets offended religiously, he starts badmouthing, and I am beginning to think that he may be one of the Islam history writer in national school syllabus.
322. People like Dr Syed, MiddleAges, Chinaman and me the Chinawoman always think of innovative and constructive way to earn decent living in the name of micro economic activities accepted by the people because to us, religion is a faith that we should practice in heart.
323. Amin tan supports Tun Mahathir Mohamad because he is the ex-PM and owner of Che Det blog, who is the UMNO Baru 1st member.
324. I guess he earns quite comfortable living in BN strongholds, but when comes to voting, his vote goes to PAS during ups and downs.
325. Satu kalimah syahadah atau not dua kalimah syahadah, like we say, kalau masuk kandang lembu atau kambing, wajib ikut adat and lifestyle lembu kambing ini.
326. To him, being a Muslim is hak istimewaannya even though he is a Chinese by surname.
327. To us, being a Malaysian or Singaporean, we think and act like one regardless which states we are in.
328. MiddleAges is right, when comes to Malay and Muslim issues, some of them may get very excited.
329. It is amin’s personal right in interpreting Islam, and how he wants to interpret it, it does matter on this side of the land because there is no such thing that if you are Malay and Muslim, then you are treated with hak keistimewaan.
330. If he fits in, he is in.
331. If he does not fit in, we don‘t accept.////
Dear HBT, You have wrongfully accused me of badmouthing. I only say the obvious. On Dr Syed, his outlook on Islam is similar to yours because he said islam has too many haram meaning he dislikes things to be made haram in islam. What are the things haram in islam? Pork eating, drinking alcohol, adultery are the major ones. In islam it is not like what you say, a faith that we should practice in heart. It is compulsory or mandatory to abide by rukun islam for a full fledge male Muslim. It is called Fardu Ain. Drinking alcohol in public or eating in public during Ramathan for a muslim is an offence under sharie law. Rukun islam and rukun iman are not open for debate or negotiation. Either you are in or you are out. Therefore Dr Syed is transgressing islam.
Honestly, Tun is brilliant, original and hard working. I guess you and I and many others enjoy the intellectual stimulation and healthy discourse in this blog.
On hakistmewa Malayu, I agree with Ibrahim Ali. PERKASA is only defending what has been theirs since 1969. If PKR tries to take it away should they win PR13, I fear there may be blood shed. The victory jubilation of the non malays at the expense of malay humiliation is untenable anger. We may be like Fiji. Colonel Rabuka may emerge. the non malays may have to leave Malaysia like the American left Saigon, in a hurry. Please don’t take the road of confrontation. Live and let live. As a Chinese you may think of selfish gains and greed and talking about so-called equality. But the Malays generally may perceive as taking away their birth rights. I would vote for status quo, stability, harmony and prosperity under BN. Pakatan Rakyat rule brings inexperience, experiment and uncertainty.
amin tan
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Tun saya amat bersyukur dan berterima kasih kerana Tun sudi mengizinkan saya di dalam blog Tun..Harap Tun sudi mengizinkan saya menjawab mamat ini lagi..
[[abdazizomar]]
To Wajaperak, I need you to argue using good words and you do not need to call people names. How many times do I need to remind you on that…
Ok..you asked it mister…
In the law of humanly physic..It is stated for every motion there is an equal and opposite motion coming from the other end.What you do not realizes is the magnitude of the motion..
You passed motion here in Tun blog and..it’s stink..So..I have to put you out of the path of the by bigger magnitude..So..looks yourself hardly at the mirror..Your issue is “arguing using good words”..I don’t have any for you..why?..See this simile of parable..
The dog growls menacingly…I chances a step closer..and mused..( According to abdazizomar I can argue with this beast “using good words”..What the hell..It is worth a try )..
Wahai Anjing milik Allah..Engkau makhluk Allah seperti aku juga..Sekarang..sudilah izinkan aku lalu di bumi Allah ini..Lagipun jalan ini bukan kau yang punya..Ahamad Albab yang punya..Eh..eh..Maksudnya jalan ini Allah yang punya..
And..NGAP!!!.The dog bite gave a mighty bite at my left leg..
Eeooww..oww..I cried in anguish…Damn this dog!!
TAK RETI BAHASA LANGSUNG!!!
You see abdaziz..The measures of something is an equal proportionate of that measures..Allah stated in Al Quran that I must gives you that measures by the proportinate “dogged” determination you showed here in Tun blogs..You the kafirian that is “ingkar” from the whole wide world normal mainstream Islamic convention..So..Here Allah commanded me in Al Quran..
“Biarlah orang kafir itu merasa kekerasan dari mu”..
There..I live up to my obligation..I follows it to the letter..
Now..what do you expect?…A juicy bone?…:)
Ok..Ok..we must have common ground here in Tun blog.I must gave that to you because Allah to allows kafirian chose other’s..
See Surah Al Kahfi..
Now let’s see if you can come up with proper answers:-..
1)The first Surah in Al Quran is Al Alaq..
Why muslims scholar,saints and sage’s name this surah Al Alaq?
Why can’t they named it “The First”..”The Commencement” or better still “Surah AbdAziz”?? Tell me which verse to look upon in describing this methodology??
2)The first Surah is only 7 sentences…verse..Why later on Rashad Khalifa add them to become 19?? Why??
3)Surah Al Alaq is the first Surah..Why it is located at the back of the mushaf and not the first?Why Al Fatihah is situated at the front of mushaf?? Why??
4)According to AsbabulNuzul..The sequence is not according to our present mushaf..Why is that??
5)There is mentioned of tayammum in Al Quran.How do you practice tayammum.When you private parts is bandaged only meaning tayammum is practical and viable only for an invalid?
And how do you do tayammum??
6)There is mentioned of Solah Whusta in Al Quran..How do perform this solah?? 6 Rakaat at 10 O Clock or how and when??
Do not dissapoints me abdazizomar…Make a fool of yourselves and I will obliging by doing so too..Because as the says..
TWO CAN PLAY THE GAME…
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..
Good morning Tun. Keeping well? I like this topic very much. Thank you.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to comment on the post made by Dr Syed.
He maybe confused as why Muslim countries around the world cannot rule their country with good management and transparency. At the same time, using Islam as the religion of the country. And follow the correct teaching of Islam according to Al Quran.
The answer to the question why we cant find one country in the world that follow the right teaching of Islam is because we have many rules and regulations. I could not agree more with dr syed for that point he mentioned. I do not know dr syed in person.
But all the rules and regulations are made up by ulama or scholars based on their research and education they learn. Some may be correct but most of it are wrong because they have another book they follow beside the Holy Quran. I do not blame them for doing so because they have been taught that way and brought up that way. So they just continue the trend of muslim scholars who get to decide the Islamic law in the country. You cant have people from other field of expertise to say or suggest any idea because they are Umarak like how some people call Tun. Not qualified to discuss or give opinion about how to rule the country better except for Ulamak. This is Malaysian mentality. This is how people in the country behave whenever they see someone who has different understanding of Islam altogether from theirs, they blame others. They think others are wrong. They think Muslim in Malaysia are the best people in the world. So it is a bit hard for you dr syed to expect them to accept your critics.
But if you blame Islam for all the wrong doings and bad practice by leaders, then I must say that you are not right. Religion of Islam has nothing to do with that. They made up the rules themselves without referring to the Holy Quran, instead they refer to other sources, like Ulama, Hadith, and other books which was made by human. How can you practice God’s law when you are actually human’s law? You cannot compare those two. They are totally different.
If you need any solutions for any problem, you can read the Holy Quran and find it there. All the answers are there. Clear and easy to understand. But these Ulama said Quran is hard to understand, it needed them to explain it to you. So when this happen, Ulama with political gain/interest may misinterpret the whole meaning to their advantage. And they have their own rules and regulations.
So it is not fair for you to blame Islam just because you cant find any country in the world agreed to one standard rules or Islamic state. So long we do not follow the Quran as the source of law for Islamic state, we will never find a stable and harmony Islamic state.
But who knows, in the near future we might find one. God willing.
Thank you Tun.
morocco di jajah olih yahuddi & dalam hungary islam tak angkat muka, masjid di jadi kandang gajah
kepada sesiapa jadi tali barut yahuddi jangan harap ganjaran kelak anda kena tembak saperti saudara saddam hussain
negara islam tak sekutu dengan yahuddi ia lah libya, tunisia & tanah melayu
yang lain lain ” takbirrr…”
ALLAH sahaja yang mengtahwi ada nya.
I must agree with Ir. Syahrizan. Most Islamic countries fail not because of Islam but because of its leaders. In Islam there is clear difference between “halal” and “haram” but its the Islamic leaders in Malaysia themselves who determine what can be “halal” and “haram”. Like Tun once mentioned before, corruption is like “makan babi” which is haram. But Malaysian leaders who are Islam, still “makan babi” despite it being “haram”. This is what Tun has taught the leadership of Malaysia, which until today is still being practiced. Thank you Tun…
Salam Tun,
To PlainNsimple,
Who’s testimony is the greatest? You may say those ayat are referring to comparing which testimony is better between Quran and other kitab like Injil or Taurat. Because those days, there were no hadith. But still God want to ask us, which testimony is better. But today you cant find Injil or Taurat to use beside the Koran. Any muslim also rarely use them or not at all. They use Quran as the source of law and reference. But sadly today we have another testimony which is called Hadith.
So I am asking you now, which testimony is the greatest? Is it Quran or Hadith?
Thank you Tun.
Salam Tun,
To Wajaperak, I need you to argue using good words and you do not need to call people names. How many times do I need to remind you on that. If you are not happy with my translation or interpretation, then what makes you think that your translation is better? Do you think that Muslim in Malaysia is the best among the world? Are you saying we Muslims in Malaysia are better than those living in Europe, USA, Japanese, Chinese, or just our neighbor Singapore?
Please look at yourself in the mirror. And please look at our country and compare them with others who have developed so fast and gone so far compare to us? Are we better than them? Are you saying Muslim in Malaysia are practicing the best teaching of Islam? Are you saying Imam in UMNO and PAS are good?
Good Imam is the one who never benefit God’s revelation with money. Their provision comes from Allah. He is the best Provider. But you look at all the Imam around Malaysia or even Pak Lebai or whatever you want to call them. They even have criminal record because they rape girls under age. These are Imams in Malaysia that go to the mosque and preach people about Islam. Sadly many of us go and listen to him. What is wrong with your logic?
It is okay if you do not agree with me. Its not the end of the world. Let God be the judge among us. I am not here to convince you for anything. God is the One that would change us according to His will. And He is the One who would guide us the right path.
But Wajaperak, you did not answer many of my questions. God knows what you were mumbling. Did I expose your ignorance for the fact that the Koran is consistent and Hadith is not? So you cant really answer my questions? Or is it because you do not bother to answer them because you do not understand anything? Or maybe you do not see and hear?
Because I really do not understand what you were saying? Please argue properly Wajaperak.
I am not here to look for people like you to communicate and share my knowledge. I am simply here just because I want to share my knowledge with everyone else who sees fit with the topic of the argument. I am not here to compete with anyone. Here everyone is entitle to their opinion and they can write anything they like. Just do not mock and make fun of others because Islam do not allow that if you are following the Koran.
And of course my name is real. I am simply here to learn and share my knowledge. I am not here to spy on anyone. You and your judging always expose your arrogance.
To brother Amin Tan, you can say whatever you like about the meaning of the verse.
This is the original surah from the holy Quran that you posted.
6:19 Say: “What thing is most weighty in evidence?” Say: “Allah is witness between me and you; This Qur’an hath been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can ye possibly bear witness that besides Allah there is another Allah?” Say: “Nay! I cannot bear witness!” Say: “But in truth He is the one Allah, and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him.”
Do you read the last sentence?
Say: “But in truth He is the one Allah, and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him.”
Joining others with Him? It can be anyone or anything. Anything u say to join His name whenever you are worshiping Him is idol worship. That is the message to us. It says, I truly am innocent of ( your blasphemy of) joining other with Him.
Cant you read that? Cant you understand that? Do you need Imam to explain to you for that simple ayat? Do you have your brain with you? What is the point of God giving you brain if you cant use it?
God stated clearly that there is no intercession during the Day of Judgment. But how many of Muslim today believe that Muhammad can intercede on behalf of us or give them syafaat during the Day of Judgment? This is because they believe in Hadith. Let me share with you the:
Myth of Intercession
To believe that anyone, other than God, can intercede on our behalf to have our sins forgiven or our wishes fulfilled, is to set up partners with God. This is idolatry. The Quran proclaims that “All intercession belongs to God” (39:44), and that there will be “no intercession on the Day of Judgment” (2:254).
The Verse:
[39:43] Have they invented intercessors to mediate between them and God? Say, “What if they do not possess any power, nor understanding?”
[39:44] Say, “All intercession belongs to God.” To Him belongs all sovereignty of the heavens and the earth, then to Him you will be returned.
[39:45] When God ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But when others are mentioned beside Him, they become satisfied.
The verse:
[2:254] O you who believe, you shall give to charity from the provisions we have given to you, before a day comes where there is no trade, no nepotism, and no intercession. The disbelievers are the unjust.
*2:254 One of Satan’s clever tricks is attributing the power of intercession to powerless human idols such as Jesus and Muhammad.
[2:255] God: there is no other God besides Him, the Living, the Eternal. Never a moment of unawareness or slumber overtakes Him. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. Who could intercede with Him, except in accordance with His will? He knows their past, and their future. No one attains any knowledge, except as He wills. His dominion encompasses the heavens and the earth, and ruling them never burdens Him. He is the Most High, the Great.
No Compulsion in Religion
[2:256] There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in God has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. God is Hearer, Omniscient.
[2:257] God is Lord of those who believe; He leads them out of darkness into the light. As for those who disbelieve, their lords are their idols; they lead them out of the light into darkness – these will be the dwellers of Hell; they abide in it forever.
Do you see any Muslim country today that Allah help to lead them out of darkness into the light?Every Muslim country in the world today are in the war and they are not happy. Every day people die and as if they are living in Hell. Countries like Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, India, Indonesia, Philippines, Sudan, Somalia, Libya, Morocco, Nigeria, Iran, Thailand, and many more. It is because they worship idols that lead them out of light into the darkness. God will never bring destruction to any people or country. It is them who do it. God only give you blessing but only if you deserve it by worshiping Him alone. But if you do not worship Him, you deserve His wrath because you do not follow His commandment in the Koran.
The myth of intercession is one of Satan’s most effective tricks to dupe millions of people into idol worship. Millions of Christians believe that Jesus will intercede for them at God, and millions of Muslims believe that Muhammad will intercede on their behalf. Consequently, these people idolize Jesus and Muhammad.
The concept of intercession is utterly illogical. Those who believe in Muhammad’s intercession, for example, claim that he will ask God to forgive them and admit them into Paradise. They imagine Muhammad on the Day of Judgment choosing the candidates for his intercession. If you ask those who believe in intercession: “How will Muhammad recognize those who deserve his intercession?” they tell you, “God will tell him!” According to this concept, a person will go to Muhammad and request his intercession. Muhammad will then ask God whether this person deserves his intercession or not. God will inform Muhammad that the person deserves to go to Paradise. Muhammad will then turn around and tell God that the person deserves to go to Paradise! The blasphemy is obvious; those who believe in intercession make God a secretary of their idol Muhammad. God be glorified.
Since the Quran is the most accurate book, it acknowledges that everyone in Paradise will intercede on behalf of his or her loved ones: “Please God, admit my mother into Paradise.” This intercession will work if the person’s mother deserves to go to Paradise (2:255, 20:109, 21:28). Thus, intercession, though it will take place in this manner, is utterly useless.
We learn from the Quran that Abraham, God’s beloved servant, could not intercede on behalf of his father (9:114). Noah could not intercede on behalf of his son (11:46). Muhammad could not intercede on behalf of his uncle (111:1-3) or relatives (9:80). What makes anyone think that a prophet or a saint will intercede on behalf of a perfect stranger?! See 2:48, 123; 6:51, 70, 94; 7:53; 10:3; 19:87; 26:100; 30:13; 32:4; 36:23; 39:44; 40:18; 43:86; 53:26 & 74:48. Muhammad’s intercession is in 25:30.
So please give me reason why do you believe that Muhammad can intercede on your behalf when Allah stated clearly the opposite. Where do you get the information from? Is it from the Koran or Hadith? If it is from Hadith, then how could you want me to believe in Hadith when it says otherwise? Here is not a small matter brother. This is involving our belief and we cannot play around with it like some sort of jokes. Muhammad would never authorized anyone to write lies that attribute to him. Please use your logic for this argument.
Thank you and everyone else.
Selamat Berbuka Puasa
God bless us all……
SPEAKING OF INTERPRETATION OF ISLAM
PROPHET MUHAMMAD SPEAKS
——Faith (Iman) by Prophet Muhammad 1323 Sayings ——–
1 OF 30 VOLUMES THAT CONTAINS
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The most unique work of this era that closed the door on Hadith collection research, July 6, 2011
By Ahmad Darwish
This review is from: Faith (Iman) by Prophet Muhammad 1323 Sayings (All Prophetic Sayings (Hadith) in one Book of 30 volumes) (Kindle Edition)
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Faith (Iman) by Prophet Muhammad
1323 Statements
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Over 4211 companions of the Prophet and their followers carried all these Prophetic sayings (hadith) and we know so little of it. Now we can enjoy pure knowledge that unified the Muslims and also introduce Islam to our friends as pure as it should be from the source..
All Prophetic saying on faith by unify all the 1850 Prophetic Sayings References in 28 volumes/subjects having 2500 topics after removing non authentic statements, and any exact repetitions, reported and produced with the assistant of Muhaddith Mahmoud Salah and the editing of Dr. Ahmad al Maddah of Azhar University by Ahmad Darwish via late Hafiz of this era, Habib Abdullah Bin Siddique al Ghumari.
This is a series of 30 Volumes contains all the Prophet Hadith
It is our pleasure to introduce this series of 30 volumes which contains all the Prophet Sayings (Hadith-Ahadith).
This will enable middle east studies departments in large western universities, such as Harvard, Chicago, Yale and Berkeley and the like in Europe such as Oxfort and the like to understand the real statements of peace loving Prophet and show how Salafist, Wahabism and Bin Laden in the absence of such Prophetic records turned the spiritualty of Islam into bloody terror which is the opposite of the Prophetic teaching.
The Largest 1323 Prophetic Sayings Reference on Faith and Creed (Akidah) from 1850 references over 15 centuries including the famous Bukhari and Muslims, the 6 and 9 books of Hadit.
In our blessed effort to unify all the 1850 Prophetic Sayings Reference in 28 Subjects (one subject per large volume), after removing non authentic statements, and removing any exact repetitions the total were 1323 Prophetic Sayings in the subject of Iman
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As we post this we are undertaking a full English translation of the work here is a chart of what we unified of chapters
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We just added vowels (tashkeel) on most of the letters of each word
The next volume will cover Ethics and Manners
Re: a Jew called Robert Spencer wrote a book called the complete Infidel’s Guide to Koran
ekompute kindly said:
In fact, the Jews have reinterpreted the 10 Commandments and say that “Thou shall not kill” actually means “thou shall not murder”. And because of this, they say that it is perfectly alright to kill in the battlefield because war is not murder. So much for human creativity.
Jews love ethnic cleansing since they migrated to Madina
My wife (over 70 years old UM convert wrote a cool documentary book about Jews of Madina
I wanted really Tun to look at it
a Jew called Robert Spencer wrote a book called the complete Infidel’s Guide to Koran, so I published our answer to him by thru kindle’s title “the Missing Chapter in Spencer’s Infidel’s Guide to Koran
http://www.amazon.com/Missing-Chapter-Spencers-Infidels-ebook/dp/B0056J0KAU/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1312263495&sr=1-2
Jews of Madina, I emailed a copy to Tun and waiting to meet him soon
Let me first say, I am an advocate and friend of the late President Sadat, and received recognition from his wife, the former first Lady of Egypt Jihan Sadat, relating to my peaceful writing about Islam – I hope that by writing this book I am not voiding this status in my response to the bashing of the Holy Koran by Robert Spencer.
There is a proverb that says, “If you have a fight with a skunk, someone will walk out smelly” I hope I have not gone overboard.
For the heck of it, if Robert Spencer does not like anything I have written, I call upon my good neighbor Mayor Richard Daley, the former mayor of Chicago, to be the moderator between him and myself, and the revenue from the event can be split between the poor Palestinian and Jewish kids.
I decided not to jump into Robert Spencer’s nationalistic mud wrestling ring, rather I decided to analyze his profile and expose his willingness to alienate those who know little or nothing about the authentic teachings of Islam.
From Spencer’s writing it would appear that he is as if drunk with the Zionist propaganda in the same way his ancestors were made to drink the golden calf in their hearts.
When two naughty boys fight, each think that his father is on his side. This situation arose before when Joseph’s brothers tried to kill him and so it is that history repeats itself and we find ourselves in a time looking for people to bring us up rather than down. Europe was great after the middle ages when they had great thinkers who elevated society and this is what we need today, rather than ill-mannered bashing.
I address an issue which has come to be a thorn in the side of the Jews as to who was the sacrificed son of Abraham, Ishmael or Isaac.
First of all neither son was slaughtered by a knife, the situation was regarding the spiritual status of total surrender to the Creator. Allah had ordered Abraham to sacrifice one of his sons, then as he was about to obey in full submission, Allah ransomed Abraham’s son with a ram. So the status of Abraham is that he was surrendering 100% to the will of the Creator, and it does not matter which son was chosen for the sacrifice. As a matter of fact, both of them were good boys and later the Creator chose them to be His prophets, one for the Hebrews, later called the Children of Israel and the other for the Arabs.
Let’s take a minute and address the word “Semitic”. When you hear this word, it automatically springs to mind that it refers to the Jews, check your dictionary, it means Jews and Arabs however current Zionists claim it for their own nationalistic use and bar Arabs from it and promote the “poor me” phrase “anti-Semitism”. All this is vague abstract, Zionists want to draw you into a mud wrestling ring and pull the wool over your eyes.
Now let’s talk about the Name of the Creator. Take any copy of the three Holy Books in Arabic, – Koran, Torah and Bible – surprise, surprise, you find His Name is spelt the SAME. In transliteration the Name will be spelled Allaah or for short Allah, so when a moron comes to tell you Allah is different from the Creator, he is trying to mislead you and play upon your emotions in an attempt to stir up enmity – so be warned don’t fall into the trap! Check Google’s dictionary out and see for yourself.
Talking about Divinity it is not social networking, it is the sacrifices made by the prophets to their Creator, many of whom were slaughtered by the Children of Israel because the Children of Israel wanted did not want to change their corrupt ways and follow their prophets sent to guide them back to the Straight Path of the Divinity. Don’t get me wrong there are many good humanitarian Jews who contribute to the welfare and better life of people.
Happy Ramadan
Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh..
Ribuan terima kasih kerana Tun sudi mengizinkan ruang kepada saya yang tamak ini..
Mohon di beri ruangan lagi…!!
[[abdulazizomar
[[Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa kepada semua]]
Pelik saya.Camanna caranya abdulazizomar ini menunaikan ibadah puasa beliau?Adakah seperti seorang kafir yang menyatakan saya berpuasa..Eh? Camana cara anda berpuasa?
1)Saya hanya minum sahaja tak boleh makan.
2)Saya hanya makan sayur sahaja.
3)Saya ikut kepala otak sendiri…!! he..he..
Macammana cara abdulaziz berpuasa kerana perkara teliti puasa tidak ada di dalam al quran….:)
[[When the Koran]]
What is koran?? And to whom it may conscience..even Al Quran tidak dapat berkata-kata!!..Quran itu jasad beku sahaja..Tetapi ianya bersifat qadim dan bukan makhluk..menjadi perantaraan bagi Khaliq kepada makhluk melalui “Yang Gagah dan Pintar” kepada “KekasihNya” untuk “HambaNya”..Hanya Allah sahaja yang dapat berkata-kata..Ia menjadikan manusia..ia mengajar manusia berbicara..
[[ Satan will influence you]]
Thank you Abdulaziz in admitting syaitan influence you.Thank you.By the way..what water do you use as wuduk?..Liquid Petrol?Liquid Paraffin? Fruit Juice? Perasa limau?Perasa oren?or air mustaqmal? Air Mutannajis? Air Mughalazah? Or plain air longkang?…Tell me..because it is not in Al Quran..:)
[[Human/Satan will add everything can they just to suit them and to divert people from the revelations. Even wuduk also they want to add. Imagine something bigger]]
Too true.Thank you for admitting this..
[[Why is it hard for you to accept that? Muhammad brought the message which was the Koran]]
Now you are talking like shylock.He wants a pound of antonio meat because he lost the wages.But how are you going to extract the meat without shedding blood?? How? In similar fashion..How are you going to performs even wuduk without knowing what water is viable for the purpose??..That is for hadith to explains..
Rasullulah s.a.w did not worshipped himself..Do you know the meaning and practice”mengucapkan salawat and salam”??
AL-AHZAB : 56
“Sesungguhnya Allah dan malaikat-malaikat-Nya berselawat untuk Nabi . Hai orang-orang yang beriman, berselawatlah kamu untuk nabi dan ucapkanlah salam penghormatan kepadanya .”
How abdazizomar you give the proper salutation?..Like this?
( It is not in Al Quran )
Hello Muhammad howdy..I am saluting thee!!
Asthagfirullahalazim!!
[[All prophets throughtout Islam went through tough time]]
How do you know?Aparts from hadith that detailed the event you will not find any matching documents..Did Rashad Khalifa told you all these events??..:)
[[Even Azan today is not the correct azan that was practiced by Muhammad or other prophets]]
You have eye witnessed this personally?Do you know that only umat muhammad practice azan and not any prophets??
[[Muhammad never authorized Hadith because he brought the Koran and nothing else.]]
You contravenes the act in Surah Najm!!
[[We are not even sure if the stories were right or wrong. Can you confirm?]]
We?? Who are we??..In this world you were borne by the sanctity of the marriage between your father and your mother.It is according to Islamic practices not in Al Quran.It is decreed detailed by Rasullulah s.a.w..Jeng..Jeng..Are you? Ahem?..Are you questioning your own ‘legitimate’ existence? And when you delivered in Hospital,the authorities documented your existence by standard oral and practice.You were not aware of this happenings but you believe them as true..
Knock..knock mister..You believes and trust the worldly system but question hadith that is utmost stringent laws,rule and regulation that surpassed any strict human standards of banking,military and what nots worldy convention.You believes them? The world convention that documented by human hands but refuse to believes hadith and called the Muslim sage and saints as stupid and liars?
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU MISTER??
[[But I do believe in Him and His revelations]]
Minus the hadith making me more utmost superior servant then you are..THANK YOU..
[[What is wrong with your logic? Cant you understand English?]]
HA..HA..HA,..Sorry Mdm Hajar..Looks like we have a winner here..The best Joker around..
Dr Asri?..No..What?..You mean to says he lost here even Tun ‘promotes’ him?..Yeah..sadly..and..music please..The winner of the Joker of the blog is..
ABDULAZIZOMAR!!!
Credits to you..winning..hands down….Joker..:)
[[ I am here to defend the Koran]]
And..what the hell is koran??
[[Hadith and sunnah fabrications
by the Prophet’s Enemies]]
And don’t forget to send your Ihya Syaitonuddin to me..It is 18 volumes is it not? What is Al Umm Imam Syafei?What is Ihya Ulumiddin Imam Ghazali…I am..I am Hujjatul Kufr..
ABDULAZIZOMAR..
Ribuan terima kasih plain.N.Simple,hajar,whosyaluffy,bothman,mayudharun1968,JB_FROM,SyedAlwisfather,economistkampung,Pakbelalang,zulkiflee and anak2Chedet..
And Razali Mohd Yusuf you are mistaken..We do finds everything in the mosque.Relates them with this hadith
“Ketetapan yang pertama itu tidak akan di ubah oleh ketetapan yang kedua melainkan dalam keadaan yang tertentu.Dan hal ini jarang berlaku..”
I will be of sport by giving you the hints..It is in Surah Al Qamar and the events of “..once sahabah have tumult and turmoil in their hearts..This is because….
Saya serahkan kepada
1)middleages
2)alsagof86
3)musato
4)readman dan
HBT456 juga untuk menceritakan kepada kami..Jangan tuan-tuan dan puan kedekut ilmu..Cer cerita…:)
PS Tuan Haji Amin Tan…Sabar Tuan..Lapang dada..Ingat pesan Rasullulah s.a.w..Nabi Musa a.s di sakiti lebih dari ini..Tapi dia sabar..
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..
Salam Tun,
1. I feel obliged to remind to readers that if all the trees in the world are turned into pens and all waters in the seven seas used as ink, it will not be sufficient to interpret Islam. Islam muslims must surely have heard of this.
2. I fear Tun’s blog has in sufficient space for such an endevour. Yesterday when i tried accesing it, it says something like “unable to connect to database”. Luckily now it is okay. And we have just merely begun
3. It is very easy to answer Dr Syed’s challenge to an interpretation of Islam that ALL could agree. There is none. Because religion is a personal matter, not a state matter.
4. So, ikut suka hati lah. Whatever your interpretation is, just obey the laws of the land and live in peace. Is that so difficult ? If it is, then change the laws. If that is also difficult, change the government, by way of vote. And if that too is difficult, move to another country to suit your interpretation. In many countries in the world, you are free to believe as you wish, and so you can hold on to your own interpretation, whatever it is. Just remember to live peacefully.
5. So shall we get on with it (nation building ) then ? We should not keep Dr Syed waiting. It’s not good to keep a good man waiting for too long.
I leave now with an arab proverb, translated as :-
“you can even believe in stones if you wish, so long as you do not throw them at me”
Thank you kindly Tun.
Salam Ramadhan Al Mubarak,
1. ***Tafsiran Islam**
Suasana sekitaran sangat mempengaruhi cara seorang berfikir. Dr Syed Alwi bin Ahmad kemungkinan dilahir dan dibesarkan di Singapura. Tafsiran Islam Dr Syed Alwi kemungkinan tidak menyeluruh atau tepat. Dasar penerapan nilai2 Islam di Malaysia telah dilaksanakan oleh kerajaan BN dibawah pimpinan UMNO dengan jayanya sehingga Malaysia pernah dianggap sebagai negara Islam contoh diseluruh dunia semasa zaman Tun Dr. Mahathir. La ni nampak gaya Turki dah ambil alih gelaran ‘Negara Islam Contoh’ . Ramai keliru bagaimana ada dasar2 Islam tetapi rasuah dan amalan2 buruk lain masih ada di Malaysia atau lain2 tempat didunia. Jawapannya ialah kerana kelemahan jentera penguatkuasaan. Sebab itu kat Kelantan walaupun ramai Tokguru dan Lebai2 tetapi masih banyak gejala sosial kerana masalah penguatkuasaan . Lebai PAS tak kan nak salah kan UMNO masalah sosial di Kelantan?
2.***Kalaulah PAS bersama UMNO dalam BN******
Banyak faedahnya:
1. wujud kasihsayang sesama Muslim.
2.InsyaAllah, bukan Islam akan cenderung kepada Islam.
3. orang UMNO lebih baik. Sekarang pun dah baik. InsyaAllah bertambah baik.
4. UMNO dan PAS tak perlu bimbang berkaitan PRU. Boleh bagi kerusi2 secara adil. Kalau saya ada kuasa Kedah, Perlis, Trengganu dan Kelantan kita bagi kat PAS perintah ,yang lain bagi kat UMNO. Setiap kawasan Parlimen mesti ada ahli Parlimen dan ADUN seorang wakil UMNO dan seorang wakil PAS !
Banyak lagi faedah tetapi apa boleh buat. Orang Melayu tak suka bersatu?
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3. ** Santapan Ramdahan BERSIH , jangan syok sendiri****
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Jangan seseorang itu bangga dengan BERSIH jika:
1. dia suka pandu kereta tak ikut peraturan jalanraya. Kereta beratur panjang2, dia main libas masuk ke depan sekali. Orang Pakatan tak buat ?
2. dia lupa tanggungjawab kepada ibubapa, kaum keluarga,sanak saudara, jiran tetangga.
3. dia seorang pegawai tetapi tidak adil kepada orang dibawah penyeliaannya.
4. dia asyik salahkan orang lain tetapi diri dia sendiri dia tak nampak. Kalau orang kata kat dia, dia cepat melenting.
Banyak lagi kalau nak ditambah!!
Assalamualaikum Ayahanda Tun Mahathir sy dah lama meminati karangan tun dan juga ceramah tun di luar sana..saya seorang pemuda yang meningkat dewasa.Sejak akhir-akhir ini saya ada membaca blog Tun dan sy ada terbaca komentar dari seorang hamba Allah iaitu (Amin tan) mengenai pendapatnya tentang Tun untuk menjadi Imam atau istilah lainya dia mahu tun menjadi imam barulah boleh bercakap soal isu agama.Bagi saya soal agama wajib di ketahui oleh setiap orang yang beragama islam yang sudah mencapai tahap baligh sekiranya En Amin Tan mempersoalkan pendapat tun yang telus berlandaskan hukum syarak dan Al-Quran ini bermakna En Amin Tan boleh di katakan tidak mengunakan akal fikiran yang waras dan hasil karangannya menunjukkan dia seorang yang tidak pandai dalam penulisan dan ini akan memalukan dirinya sendiri pada masa depan.Saya salah seorang penuntut pelajar pondok setelah sekelian lama dahulu dan saya tidak lah begitu pandai dalam soal agama sepenuhnya tetapi bagi saya pendapat tun bertepatan dalam konteks agama.Dan apa yang boleh sy nasihatkan pada Mr Amin Tan please carrefully your word or your comment because everyperson will look at you..
Assalamualaikum Ayahanda Tun.
Farhan Al Sagof.
Dear Tun,
Salam to you and everyone else.
Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa kepada semua.
Let me reply to JB_FROM.
When the Koran said you only need 4 steps to do Wuduk, then why you want to do extra? Are you saying God forget to inform us in the Book. And it must be another Imam to tell us something that God ‘forget’ to put in the Book? Please use your logic carefully. When Allah said that it is only 4 steps, it is 4 steps. No more, no less. No matter what Imam Syafie did or refer to, he is human. He cannot be better than God. And he cannot change what God clearly stated in the Koran. How many people in the world actually do more than 4 steps? Maybe not so much in Malaysia because Imam Syafie still refer to the Koran but what about other imams? You see people from other parts of the world, and how they take wuduk? Some of them do more, 8 steps. Extra 4 steps. When Allah give you 4 steps, Satan will influence you to have another 4 steps. It is as simple as that.
Human/Satan will add everything can they just to suit them and to divert people from the revelations. Even wuduk also they want to add. Imagine something bigger.
To my brother Amin Tan,
Why do you think I change the basics and the fundamental things about Islam? Just because I say ‘There is no God except Allah’ without saying Muhammad is the messenger of God? Every Muslim know that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. Im not questioning that. And I am not trying to be clever here. I am just saying that Muhammad never go around during his lifetime to Dakwah others using his name in syahadah because you cant find one in the Koran. And if you really read the Koran, you will see all the conversations between the prophets and the disbelievers. Give it, Aaron, Moses, Noah, Jesus, Job, Lot and even Muhammad, they only ask the people to worship God alone. The syahadah was never to mention their names, but instead Allah’s name only. Why is it hard for you to accept that? Muhammad brought the message which was the Koran but he never ask people to worship him or idolize him.
Let me share with you verse from chapter 39: 45-48
39:45] When God ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But when others are mentioned beside Him, they become satisfied.*
*39:45 Despite the clear commandment in 3:18 that the First Pillar of Islam is proclaiming: “Ash-hadu An Laa Elaaha Ellaa Allah (there is no other God beside God),” the majority of “Muslims” insist upon adding the name of Muhammad. This Greatest Criterion alerts us that rejoicing in adding the name of Muhammad, or any other name, exposes disbelief in the Hereafter.
[39:46] Proclaim: “Our God, Initiator of the heavens and the earth, Knower of all secrets and declarations, You are the only One who judges among Your servants regarding their disputes.”
[39:47] If those who transgressed owned everything on earth, even twice as much, they would readily give it up to avoid the terrible retribution on the Day of Resurrection. They will be shown by God what they never expected.
[39:48] The sinful works they had earned will be shown to them, and the very things they used to mock will come back to haunt them.
All prophets throughtout Islam went through tough time. That is normal because what prophets brings will always go against the belief of the majority of people. If you really read the Koran, you will know this without having me to remind you again. Just because all prophets went through tough time, does it allow you to mention all their names in your azan or prayers? Even Azan today is not the correct azan that was practiced by Muhammad or other prophets. They would never allow the followers of Islam to mention their names beside God’s name. But today you see people in Malaysia do azan differently compare to people in Iran or other parts of the world. They add up the azan just to please them.
Of course I cannot separate the Koran from Muhammad. That is exactly I am asking you to do also. To believe in the Koran just the same way Muhammad did. Muhammad never authorized Hadith because he brought the Koran and nothing else. So if you do not want to separate Koran from Muhammad then believe in the Koran only. By believing in Hadith, you are basically believing in Abu Hurairah, Tarmizi, Bukhary etc.
They said all those stories and attribute them to Muhammad. We are not even sure if the stories were right or wrong. Can you confirm?
I am not here to create my own religion. Please understand brother. By using Koran as the source of Law, I am following the exact same religion that was given to Muhammad. Because Muhammad followed that Book only. He never had Hadith during his lifetime. Just because I do not believe in Hadith, does it allow you to call me non-believer? Do you know what is the meaning of non-believer? They are people who do not believe in God and His revelations. But I do believe in Him and His revelations.
Brother, you cannot compare me to ayah pin. ayah pin claim himself to be god. I never say that. I am here to ask you to read the Koran only and believe in every word of it just like Muhammad did. What is wrong with your logic? Cant you understand English?
Amin Tan, I am not here to promote anything new. It may be new to you. But the whole wide world is practicing this now. Maybe not in Malaysia because Government always catch people who do not believe the same way as they did. God is the judge for all of us. Im asking you to believe in His revelations. If you choose to stick to hadith, then it is your problem. Not my problem. There are many more people in this blog that still confuse about hadith because it contradicts the Koran.
I have got nothing against Islam. I have got everything against those people who claim to know Islam through Hadith but not the Koran. I have everything against the people who promote lies about Muhammad and attribute it to him without his permission. Those are the people that I would go against. I am here to defend the Koran. And I am sure there a lot more people who are concern about the Koran more than the hadith.
Thank you Tun. I really need you to say few words about this. I know you understand exactly my point here. But some people they are just ignorant of the fact that we are to believe in the Koran alone. They need Hadith to explain the Koran because to them, Koran is not perfect, not complete, not fully detailed and not easy to understand. Surprisingly, God stated clearly the opposite in the Koran.
[6:19] Say, “Whose testimony is the greatest?” Say, “God’s. He is the witness between me and you that this Quran* has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches. Indeed, you bear witness that there are other gods* beside God.” Say, “I do not testify as you do; there is only one God, and I disown your idolatry.”
*6:19 This verse proclaims the Quran as the only source of religious guidance. Those who uphold additional sources, such as Hadith & Sunna (lies attributed to the Prophet), are defined as idolaters.
[6:20] Those to whom we have given the scripture recognize this as they recognize their own children. The ones who lose their souls are those who do not believe.
[6:21] Who is more evil than one who lies about God, or rejects His revelations? The transgressors never succeed.
God did not leave anything out of this Book.
[6:38] All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book. To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.
Please Amin Tan, read the following verse. And if you do not agree with me, debate base on the Koran only. Dont call me anti islam or anything because I am not.
Hadith & Sunna:
Fabrications by the Prophet’s Enemies
[6:112] We have permitted the enemies of every prophet – human and jinn devils – to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.
Important Criterion
[6:113] This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.*
*6:113 The Quran provides criteria that tell us whether we truly believe in the Hereafter or merely give it lip service. These important criteria are stated here, and in 17:45-46 and 39:45.
*6:113-115 Upholding any source beside the Quran reflects disbelief in the Quran.
Quran: Fully Detailed*
[6:114] Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?* Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
*6:113-115 Upholding any source beside the Quran reflects disbelief in the Quran.
[6:115] The word of your Lord is complete,* in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.
*6:113-115 Upholding any source beside the Quran reflects disbelief in the Quran.
[6:116] If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of God. They follow only conjecture; they only guess.
[6:117] Your Lord is fully aware of those who stray off His path, and He is fully aware of those who are guided.
[6:118] You shall eat from that upon which God’s name has been pronounced, if you truly believe in His revelations.
Assalamualaikum.
http://margeemar.blogspot.com/2011/07/did-prophet-mohamed-teach-muslims-to.html#links
This describes 100% how brainwashed people by current and previous Malaysian leaders and clerics poisoned with anti Semitism the masses of morons (who cannot think independently to know the difference between good and evil). Just for that blind hatred, Muslims are “cursed” from Allah with brothers war.
And to finalize, Muslims will never ever exterminate the Jews. This is divine and religious Muslims should know it.
You are lost by interpreting wrong your religion and God’s words by extremists.
Wassalam.
Assalamualaikum Tun Dr. Mahathir.
Please read this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/28/chelsea-yossi-benayoun-malaysia
No wonder how hatred is poured into the brainwashed crowd of morons. Leaders who speak anti Semitism are establishing the firm floor for hatred, blind hatred and even to their own brothers. It starts with the Jews and ends up with the Muslims. The self destruction is base on hatred.
Wassalam,
Hanan,
Jewsih, Israel.
Dear Tun,
This is the original surah from the holy Quran
6:19 Say: “What thing is most weighty in evidence?” Say: “Allah is witness between me and you; This Qur’an hath been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can ye possibly bear witness that besides Allah there is another Allah?” Say: “Nay! I cannot bear witness!” Say: “But in truth He is the one Allah, and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him.”
This is what abdulazizomar produced quoted from this blog of the same topic
*6:19 This verse proclaims the Quran as the only source of religious guidance. Those who uphold additional sources, such as Hadith & Sunna (lies attributed to the Prophet), are defined as idolaters.
Dear Tun and fellow bloggers under Tun,
The surah was revealed in Mekah
The actual and correct meaning of the surah says Allah has no equal and no partner. Mohammad was the messenger of Allah through revelation from Allah.
Abdulazizomar tries to change or tries to add little bit here and there to the Holy Quran to support his claim that muslims should ignore hadis and sunnah calling them idolaters if they do. Aziz is treading on dangerous ground. Please don’t try to alter the Quran because you may become insane.
amin tan
From Dr. M to Dr. M
At last you found your match in Hadith! Smile!
To my beloved and dear Tun REAL DR. M and His loving-Prophet Muhammad Blog members
As salamu alikum
From MuhaddithDarwish (Dr. M of Hadith! smile)
Subject: Thank you Tun for asking for the hadith. “If you need it bad you get it bad” (second bad means quickly sorry Chicago slang, smile)
1. Restrictly From Hadith Point of View:
I agree with all of you, an agreement which varies according to what you know and practice (by building your thoughts according to and with the authentic statements of Prophet Muhammad, salla Allahu alihi wa sallam).
Prophet Muhammad is our Hadi (guide) here and our shafiee (intercession giver) in the hear after.
2. Darwish’s own opinions
Great Companion Omar, the caliph stopped the hudud – yes stopped applying it to any thieve – when the maja’aj (hunger and severe dry seasons came upon the Muslims)
I am now almost a year in Malaysia and see many people asking for hudud and I think “it is the right statement in the wrong time”. Once we have lots of thieves, we messed the bout (the stage to apply hudud) we need more solutions – then later apply hudud – based on mercy, loving caring, educating and sharing wealth (board room social responsibility) with the poor who some has to go to steal because the villages are overlooked.
In USA – I lived 28 years started the Hadith data warehouse in 1980 – when economy is good crimes are down and when is bad crime is up. So the member who said re-interpreted Islam (I rather say re understanding Islam in the Hadith’s light)
4. Back to Hadith, which will guide you if you care to get it:
4.1. Did you know for now 31 years I collected all the Hadith and like to present it to Tun and his men to see if this will be of use, please do not send me to JAKIM yet, they know about it, and they are nice to me but, you are talking about the whole file-records of Prophet Muhammad which turns anyone humble.
CAN I READ YOU YOUR HADITH RIGHT?
4.2 Prophet covered 2500 subjects of the civilization both spiritual and material aspects of it, REPORTED BY 4211 SAHABA AND TANEIN THEN 52000 RAWIS IN 1850 BOOKS*
I arranged with my assistant into 28 volumes and 2 volumes for cross references, this is all Arabic, I need help to translate into Bahasa Malays. …
wanna more .. come on have a look
4.3 do not worry about false statements I already collected them in one volume in almost 4000 statements and 1800 fabricators list
* EXAMPLE LADY AESHAH ALL HER LOGICAL COLLECTION FOUND IN 385 BOOK AND REPEATED TO 14006 HADITH
send me email please to info@Muhammad.com
Assalamualaikum Tun.
Bila menceritakan ttg liberal views in Islam,dah tentulah saya tak bersetuju dgn pandangan sebegitu.
Ilmuwan Islam sepakat mengakui hadith sahih ttg kewujudan penegak agama setiap awal 100thn.
Secara logiknya di manakah manusia tersebut belajar ttg Islam yang sebenar? sedangkan Nabi S.A.W telah wafat?
Maka tentunya Allah S.W.T akan menentukan perjalanan hambaNya.Berguru dgn org yg terhebat pd zamannya,diberi kefahaman Al Quran dan celik hati bg memahami pengetahuan ilmu agama alim-alim terdahulu khususnya pd zaman generasi Islam ketiga,di mana ilmuwan ketika itu di akui Allah akan kekuatan pengetahuan pd dada alim ketika itu.
Pastinya penegak agama Islam pd zaman moden ini tidak terikat dgn fatwa beratus tahun dahulu.Hanya Al Quran dan hadith menjadi panduan setelah memahami pandangan dari generasi beratus tahun terdahulu.
Kerana itulah saya menulis ttg ijtihad berdasarkan topik Blogging to Unblock.Sy boleh meniru buku buku berstus thn terdahulu..
Terima kasih Tun.
Dearest YAB & diKasihi Tun,
Allow me Tun…
/// Dr Syed Alwi Ahmad July 21, 2011 at 1:46 pm
“…For me – I issue an open challenge to all here – to come up with an interpretation and implementation of Islam – that is agreeable to ALL in Malaysia. And that itself is a very difficult thing to do….”
Wassalam
Dr Syed Alwi Bin Ahmad (Alsree) ///
Dr. Syed Alwi,
Judging from your so called CHALLENGE, I believe that you don’t really know what you are talking about. Why don’t you show us an example of “an interpretation and implementation of a religion (any religion) that is AGGREABLE to all (meaning NO objection from anyone) in any country of your choice…” If you can come up with one such example, then you are really a GREAT Dr..& I really salute you. But if you fail, then I guess the QUALITY of your Doctorate is ARGUABLE.
Tun, please ignore this person. Ini CONTOH Melayu berketurunan Arab yang tidak sedar diri. Sekurang-kurangna di Malaysia, kita lebih bebas dalam melakukan apa-apa termasuk dalam beragama. Orang luar pun iktiraf Malaysia sebagai negara ke 19 paling selamat di dunia, dan yang paling MENYERONOKKAN ialah fakta di mana Malaysia dikatakan LEBIH SELAMAT dari Singapura…Ha..Ha..Ha..Kah..Kah..Kah!
Thanks Tun.
Wassalam
Dr. Ha..Ha..Ha..
*** May Allah SWT bless Tun and family ***
Assalammualaikum Tun dan rakan2 blog,
Pendapat saya,
1. Dr Syed Alwi bin Ahmad blames Islam for the failures of governance in Muslim countries.
- Maaf yer Dr. Syed, bukan islam yang patut disalahkan tapi pemimpin beragama islam. Kenapa??… orang yang memimpin tersebut tidak faham dan tidak yakin sepenuhnya dengan islam lalu tidak menggunakan ajaran islam sepenuhnya untuk mentadbir negara dan rakyat, termasuklah:
1. memandang islam tidak relevan dengan keadaan semasa
2. guna nama islam sebagai kekebalan politik,
3. sangat malas + tidak mahu membaca dan kaji Al-Quran
4. berfahaman dan menyanjung pemikir barat dan meletakkan ajaran islam kepada akhirat semata-mata.
1400 tahun dahulu, para sahabat merupakan saintis/cendiakawan, ahli politik, pakar keagamaan dan pakar teknologi. Kenapa bukan sekarang?. Kalau pemimpin2 negara islam ini lihat dan ikut pada sejarah para sahabat – sekarang kita dah ada ulama ICT, ulama jurutera, ulama politik dan ulama sains dan teknologi . Dunia sekarang, ulama agama dan politik ramai tapi ulama yang R & D dari Al-Quran boleh dikatakan tiada. Di Malaysia pula, ramai sangat yang kita panggil sebagai ulama, asyik bercakap pasal kawin, cerai, poligami dan umno kafir + PAS masuk syurga. . Umat islam terpaksa cari jalan terakhir iaitu Al-Quran dan As-Sunnah jika mereka tidak faham disebabkan tiada ulama dalam subjek2 tertentu. Masalahnya adakah umat islam itu mampu untuk merujuk Al-Quran dan Hadis ?. Jawapannya tidak sama sekali jika selagi umat islam termasuklah yang pemimpinnya diajar mentafsir 1-2-3 i luv u (Barney and friend) sejak dari kecil lagi dan bukannya mentafsir alif-ba-ta. Pendek kata – kapal titanic pun tenggelam kerana kaptennya. Rujuk pada Al-Quran dan As-Sunnah, kalau dapat bukti baru berkata-kata.
2. It is true that Muslim countries are often poorly governed. There is not a single one of them which qualify to be a developed country.
Betul, saya sangat setuju. Kenapa jadi macam ini?. Sebab konsep beribadat dalam islam tidak difahami. Pemimpin negara islam memandang islam pada akhirat semata-mata. Sedangkan Rasullullah merupakan pemimpin yang ada KPI pada dunia & akhirat. Mereka yang faham dengan As-Sunnah tidak akan ragu-ragu mengatakan Rasullullah adalah pakar politik, pakar ekonomi, saintis dan cendiakawan terulung. Setakat pengetahuan saya tiada pemimpin negara islam ketika ini merujuk KPI daripada Al-Quran dan As-Sunnah. Sedangkan KPI dalam islam adalah memperbaharui atau menambah baik. Tidak kiralah dari produk, kehidupan dan ekonomi/sosial. Kebanyakkannya datang daripada negara-negara bukan islam yang mengamalkan konsep ‘continuous improvement’, ‘kaizen’ dan ‘renewable’, sedangkan konsep ini telah dimulakan oleh para sahabat sehingga negara islam menjadi sebuah Empayar hebat! (saya refer melalui tulisan Khalid Yong). Negara2 islam banyak mementingkan ketenteraan dalam pemerintahan – namun bila Palestin ditindas mereka sanggup berbalah sesama sendiri. Tentera digunakan untuk mengawal rakyat bukannya untuk menjaga maruah islam. Di negara kita pula, jika ditanya berkenaan KPI, mereka akan jawab KPI adalah untuk orang yang makan gaji. Setahun mesti capai kalau tidak gaji tak naik. Sedangkan KPI adalah konsep untuk hidup. Contohnya semalam kita beri kasih sayang kat keluarga 100 peratus, hari ini mesti 110 peratus, hari tu kita usaha untuk berjaya hari ini kita mesti lebih berjaya dan semalam kita cipta kapal terbang esok kita cipta kapal angkasa. Seorang melayu islam kini sebenarnya tiada hala tuju, keliru apa yang mereka nak capai dalam hidup. Mereka yang mula2 nak cari kerja – fikir nak dapat gaji banyak + beli kereta cantik + berkahwin. Mereka yang nak pencen cuma fikir nak naik jadi pengarah supaya naik gred takpun lepas ni nak pegi mekah lepas tu tanam pokok durian belakang rumah. Mereka yang sudah pencen cuma fikir macammana nak berhubung dengan kenalan yang masih bekerja untuk dapatkan kerja untuk anak-anak takpun sibuk isi borang nak sambung contract bertahun-tahun. Baik yang kerja dari tukang sapu sampailah ke taraf Prof. Alangkahnya bagusnya jika ada golongan professional yang jadi pemikir untuk pembangunan islam, guna kepakaran untuk kaji Al-Quran. Jangan sampai masa hanya duduk kat surau baca Al-Quran sampai tertidur tapi tak faham apa yang dibaca. Kepakaran 20-30 tahun yang sepatutnya dihubungkan dengan ilmu Allah dibiarkan dimamah bumi. Hidup kita sebagai seorang melayu islam akan berterusanlah sampai sudah macam ini!. Kalau diberikan umur panjang, saya tak terkejut jika melihat negara-negara islam termasuk Malaysia masih berada di tampuk begini. Sibuk berkata akhirat tak lama lagi tapi membiarkan ilmu di dalam Al-Quran kekal menjadi misteri.
“Hadis Musa”
“Hal ataka hadeethu moosa”
Sudahkah sampai kepadamu hadeeth Musa? 79:15
Katakanlah (wahai Muhammad): “Taatlah kamu kepada Allah dan RasulNya. Oleh itu, jika kamu berpaling (menderhaka), maka sesungguhnya Allah tidak suka kepada orang-orang yang kafir. 3:32
“Waqala moosa yafirAAawnu innee rasoolun min rabbi alAAalameen”
Dan berkatalah Nabi Musa: “Hai Firaun! Sesungguhnya aku ini adalah seorang Rasul dari Tuhan sekalian alam. 7:104
Taat Rasul Musa. Taat Hadith Rasul Musa.
Salam Tun & fellow bloggers,
Daripada pengajian ilmu Quran & Hadith, saya bolih merumuskan apakah itu Islam yang haq/benar;
1. Firman Allah SWT ” Aku jadikan manusia & jin, semata2 utk beribadah kpd Ku”. Dgn ini kita adalah HAMBA Allah dan sebagai hamba kita wajib lakukan yg diperentah, jauhi yg dilarang. Tak ada bolih dipersoalkan.
2. Sesiapa yg mengucapkan 2 kalimah syahdah, dia telah mengaku dirinya sebagai seorang Islam dan wajib menunaikan rukun Islam yg 5 itu. Sesiapa pula yg ingkar utk melafazkan 2 kalimah syahdah dan ingkar kpd perentah Allah, dia telah kufur dgn itu tersendirinya menjadi seorang kafir dan pasti Allah telah janjikan neraka utk mereka.
3. Islam pula, sebagaimana perpecahan kaum yahudi & nasrani sebelumnya, akan berpecah kpd 73 golongan tapi hanya 1 sahaja yg Allah terima ( redha ). Bermakna, baki 72 golongan akan dimasukan dlm neraka. Olih itu yg mengaku Islam, kena berfikir dgn mendalam sama ada dirinya itu dalam golongan yg satu itu atau tidak.
4. Dari Hadith “Aku tinggalkan kalian 2 perkara, Quran & sunnah ku. Jika kalian rujuk kpd kedua2nya, kalian tak akan sesat selama2nya”, kita bolih merumuskan, bahawa Islam yg diterima ialah Islam yg berlandaskan ilmu Quran & hadith. Ini disokong pula dgn firman Allah, “jgn mengamalkan sesuatu yg kalian tidak ada ilmunya”. Juga Hadith-” sesiapa yg mengamalkan sesuatu bukan amalanKu Nabi, akan ditolak”. Inilah sebabnya Nabi SAW dijadikan persuruh Allah SWT sebagai sebaik2nya “role model” utk menunjukkan cara yg betul – yg diajarkan olih Jibril kpd ya- amalan/cara utk beribadah kpd Allah SWT. Itu sebabnya sesiapa yg tidak mempercayai hadith, tidak akan sempurna Islam atau imannya.
5. Dengan tahap amalan atau ibadah yg dilakukan olih sesaorang Islam itu, ia pula bolih dikategorikan kpd 3 kelas,
a) IMAN ( patuh pada perentah Allah SWT – total submission ), b) MUNAFIQ ( yg berpura2 dalam amalannya ) dan
c) FASIQ ( yg menzalimi diri sendiri, sungguh pun tahu hukum tapi memilih dalam melakukan ibadahnya dan memperlekehkan hukum).
6. Olih yang demikian, kita kena pereksa diri sendiri dan carilah Islam yang haq/benar yg Allah redha jika kita inginkan di akhirat nanti, kekal selama2nya di syurga Allah yg penuh nekmat bukan neraka yg penuh dengan azab keseksaan.
7. Maka kita perlu sentiasa bersyukur atas nekmat Allah, bersabar bila menerima ujian Allah dan sentiasa memohon keampunan Allah dan petunjuk ( hidayah ) Allah.
8. Insya’allah, mudah2an secara rengkas di atas menjadikan panduan utk kita memahami Islam yang haq/benar.
Salam YB Tun,
Pada hemat saya, inilah zaman di mana manusia samada Muslim atau bukan Muslim berada di dalam kekeliruan. Yang lagi parah, yang mengaku Muslim pun sudah keliru bahkan ada sudah tergelincir daripada aqidah sebenar.
Oleh itu kajilah hadith Nabi Muhammad SAW berhubung perkara ini terutama apa yang akan berlaku pada akhir zaman dan bagaimana hendak berpegang teguh kepada tali Allah di saat-saat Islam dipersendakan dan dipermainkan.
Wasalam
There is something about abdulazizomar that is very questionable…
He started off innocently enough by quoting the Quran:
[6:19] Say, “Whose testimony is the greatest?” Say, “God’s. He is the witness between me and you that this Quran* has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches. Indeed, you bear witness that there are other gods* beside God.” Say, “I do not testify as you do; there is only one God, and I disown your idolatry.”
However, as with all spin-artists with an ulterior motive, he spun his web of deceit in the second line of his own misconceived interpretation of the above verse:
*6:19 This verse proclaims the Quran as the only source of religious guidance. Those who uphold additional sources, such as Hadith & Sunna (lies attributed to the Prophet), are defined as idolaters.
Any half-past-six Muslim will know that the surah>/i> is referring to the Books of Revelation, i.e. Injil, Tawrah, that came before the Quran.
Holy Books that were corrupted by men with vested interests… misinterpreted and translated and yet again willfully misinterpreted in translation, to suit the needs of those men who craved power, wealth and all the evil that comes with mischief. Pathetic!
If it is abdulazizomar‘s wish to not believe in the Hadith & Sunna, then that is his prerogative, as there is no compulsion in religion. However, wilful misinterpretation of the Quran to justify your conjectures is another matter.
Ironic, isn’t it?
He believes in the Quran, and yet willfully misinterpret the contents.
Hmm… something sinister is afoot?
Eventhough we don’t have Prophets with us anymore but it is said that we still have Wali Besar around.So why don’t someone try to find them.
Dearest Tun
1-Dr Alwi wants the Muslims in Malaysia from both UMNO and PAS to come up with an agreement of the implementation of the Syariah because the whole world it seems is closely watching us.To think that we can just agree easily on something as big as this maybe a little too naive esp for a doctor of his stature.
2-There will always be other perspectives and opinions.That is why there is a Sunni and a Syiah,the Catholic and the Protestant,the Capitalist and the Communist,the Shinto and the Zen,the Sivaite and the Muruganites,the Orthodox and the Unorthodox,etc,etc.Being different is only part of being human.
3-In the Malaysian context,there is this UMNO perspective and the PAS perspective.Nobody is all wrong or right.All UMNO has got to do is just implement their version and deliver the results.That is also what PAS should also do if they have got the opportunity.If their version is the one that God is pleased with then they would receive God’s help,that is all.But they should not use foul tactic like acting this fake death by this evil idiot Shuhardi Md Isa during the Bersih rally recently.For that is truly a despicable and evil act trying to provoke the people through fitnah to go against the Police/Govt.
4-Just because there are various understanding doesn’t mean that the world should be laughing at Malaysia.It just go to show that this is a true healthy,democratic country that respect differences of opinions.The only important thing now is that we are a peaceful nation which may suggest that God is already on our side.Also meaning that the UMNO version may be closer to being right afterall.
5-Come on all Muslims,let’s put on our best, the world is watching us!Malaysia Boleh!
Thanks Tun
Assalamualaikum,
Dear Tun,
You wrote on point 6, that “killing a fellow Muslim is forbidden”. That was back in centuries, not relevant to today’s time and age. Otherwise you will see a ‘massacre’ out in our paddy fields.
Tun, you shld have written “killing anyone is forbidden”, unless you do not concur with this.
Wassalam
Alan
Dear En Amin Tan,
If you have the chance, it’s adviseable to enhance your study in Islamic sufism,you will find the meaning of syahadah completely as they deliver it in complete sylabus for syariah,hakikat,tariqat and makrifat.This is what Tok Kenali,Wali 9 and a few others thought ready muslim of what religion is all about.It call Ilmu Ketuhanan or Goddest.Check around.You cannot find it in the mosque.
Assalammua’laikum wrt… Tun yang dihormati,
“Kita” merujuk kepada diri penulis, berbahagia Tun dan pembaca mesej ini.
1. Kita tidak tahu bila kita akan mati?
Oleh sebab itu, maka sama-samalah kita:-
Melakukan perintah Allah & meninggalkan laranganNya pada bila-bila masa.
2. Kita tidak tahu di mana tempat kita akan mati?
Oleh sebab itu, maka sama-samalah kita:-
Melakukan perintah Allah & meninggalkan laranganNya pada mana-mana tempat.
3. Kita tidak tahu macamana bentuk kita akan mati?
Oleh sebab itu, maka sama-samalah kita:-
Melakukan perintah Allah & meninggalkan laranganNya macamana bentuk keadaan kita sekalipun.
“Mereka yang lebih banyak mengingati mati dan lebih baik persediaannya kepada perkara selepas mati, mereka itulah orang yang paling bijak.” (hadis riwayat Ibn Majah)
“Tiap-tiap diri akan merasai mati dan Kami menguji kamu dengan kesusahan dan kesenangan sebagai cubaan dan kepada Kamilah kamu semua akan dikembalikan.” (Terjemahan surah Al-Anbiya’ ayat 35)
Perlu diingatkan bahawa setiap amalan kita hendaklah :-
1. Diniatkan dan dilakukan dengan ikhlas kerana Allah swt semata-mata dan bukan selain dari itu.
2. Setiap amalan wajiblah berdasarkan ilmu yang telah dipelajari.
3. Kewajipan mencari dan menuntut ilmu supaya amalan kita berdasarkan al-Quran, sunnah Nabi Muhammad saw dan ijma’ ulama’.
Semoga ia bersuaian dengan maksud ayat surah Yunus 105:-
“Serta (diwajibkan kepadaku): Hadapkanlah seluruh dirimu menuju (ke arah mengerjakan perintah-perintah) agama dengan betul dan ikhlas dan janganlah engkau menjadi dari orang-orang musyrik.” (Terjemahan surah Yunus 105)
Selamat menyambut bulan Ramadhan yang penuh barakah ini. InsyaAllah. Minta ampun dan maaf diatas segala kesalahan yang disedari atau tidak dalam sepanjang persahabatan ini. Biarlah kita menjadi musuh di alam dunia ini untuk melaksanakan dan menyampaikan kalimah Allah swt daripada menjadi kawan di alam akhirat nanti. Fikir-fikirkanlah!!!
rgds
Ibnu Sulaiman
Bacaan Tambahan:-
1. Jom solat fardu 5 waktu berjemaah
2. Jawatan Kosong
Good morning Tun,
332. PPSMI issue is flip flop again after more than 10 years of executing and implementing.
333. UMNO and MCA decide the direction of the education in the country.
334. Yes yes, they can do what they want inside their meeting rooms.
335. The people will voice out their dissatisfaction in the ballot boxes.
336. If they are good, whether we teach in BM or not, they will score good grades at university level.
337. MM Lee said because Singaporeans want to be 1st Class in the world, now the opposition party wants 1st Class Parliament in the world.
338. He feels sorry for Singapore.
339. MB Selangor said that he wants to build Olympic Stadium, Stadium Melawati with Beijing Olympic architects.
340. Abdul Khalib Ibrahim tetap UMNO and politician in heart though he won under PKR.
341. Yes, I feel sorry for Selangor state if he can push this deal through.
Good day Tun.
Dr. Alwi,
Since the subject that you had raised touch the sensitivity of Muslim, it is best that all your argument I forwarded to MUIS for them to provide you the correct guidelines in approaching this issue.
Dr. Syed Alwi,
Your comment,
“there is absolutely nothing wrong in admitting that it is harder to govern a Muslim country – because of the problems in interpreting the Syariah.”
My Answer,
It is harder for MAN to go to the Moon then to Antarctic but America send Apollo mission to the land to the Moon anyway. What is your point?
Your comment,
“The world is watching Malaysia”
My comment,
The world is busy with a lot of things then just to focus to Malaysia and Singapore.
There are great many things happening in many part of the world that drives attention.
Your comment,
PAS and UMNO cannot unite. Why ? Because PAS has a different interpretation of Islam than UMNO.
My comment,
PAP and SDP in Singapore also cannot unite.
Your comment,
“The second reason is that the Prophet is no longer with us today”
My comment,
So is Jesus, Moses and Budha.
Your comment,
“In the Muslim world – events are viewed under the light of the Syariah whose interpretation is subject to many contradictory factors. End result ? Disunity and chaos !”
My comment,
Is syariah that caused problem in Muslim world today? Not the dictators? Which planet are you from?
and Lastly your comment,
“So that is why I challenge Malaysia – go and find an interpretation of Islam that is agreeable to ALL in Malaysia.”
My comment,
You go to Singapore and find an interpretation of democracy that is agreeable to “ALL” including the convicts in the Changi Prison. PAP says no to two party system because of “not enough talent” while the opposition say otherwise.
It is part of Human Nature to “disagree”, this perhaps something that you did not learn in Physics.
Human being cannot be govern by mathematical formula like lifeless matters in Physics. It have emotion and mind of its own. Some of them are erratic and arrogant like you that try to antagonize other country’s people blogs, which events in this country do not concern or effect you whatever.
Why don’t you focus in Physics or teaching then this, something you have no business into.
Malaysia and Singapore have different characteristics, if you compare in size alone it is like comparing 1 million acres compared to 6732 square feet. Therefore the problem and issues in Singapore and Malaysia is not similar.
Finally I would like to say that all your comments stated above are all stupid comments, I wonder how can this originate from a person who have an academic credential like you.
Assalamualikum WBT!
Dear Tun Dr. Mahathir & fellow Muslims,
I am writing only to advise about this individual Dr. Syed Alwi. Please ignore him – he is acting as ‘jahilliya’. Unlike him I am not putting forward rants, let his own posts on other sites speak:
on Islamicity back in 2005, this is what he had to say:
“In my younger days, I was a firm believer in God and in the Unseen. But I am not so sure anymore. I keep asking myself – if there is a God, will He then judge us Humans according to our beliefs or will He judge us according to our deeds – or simply both ?”
This person – in his own words has moved away from Islam. Perhaps that is the reason you see him contending that Apostasy should be forgiven.
Please ignore this lost soul and don’t pay him attention as he is worth none. There are many like him such as Ayan Hirsi Ali, Taslima Nasreen, Ayah Pin etc etc
I doubt this chap is even a real ‘Dr’ – if you are prove you journal publications? Don’t tell me that teaching physics at an American center in Singapore will make you a scientist..
My advice to Syed Alwi is to find a nice shiny mirror and have a nice long look at yourself. Spare us the details but chances are you will not like what you see. Death comes to everyone and before it reaches you please repent. If you are curious then you should be more open minded and don’t try to provoke people with your little ‘googled’ knowledge.
May Allah show you the right path.
Subhanalllah, Alhamdulillah, AllahuAkbar,
Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
Kami amat bersetuju dgn apa yg dikatakan oleh TGDrM.
1. Untuk menang, PAS merogol Agama Islam.
a. Dulu kata “bersama dengan org Cina dan India jadi KAFIR”
b. Sekarang PAS Nik Aziz lakukan.
c. Dulu kata “matlamat tidak boleh menghalalkan cara”
d. Sekarang PAS Nik Aziz lakukan.
e. Kesian pengikut PAS Nik Aziz, mana pegi ‘akal kurniaan ALLAH
MasyaAllah…………………. bolehkah nak mati nanti sebut kalimah La ilaha illallah’ jika buat mcm tu?…. Allah mencarut??
Good evening Tun,
321. Comment by amin tan July 28, 2011 at 1:11 pm has proven that when he gets offended religiously, he starts badmouthing, and I am beginning to think that he may be one of the Islam history writer in national school syllabus.
322. People like Dr Syed, MiddleAges, Chinaman and me the Chinawoman always think of innovative and constructive way to earn decent living in the name of micro economic activities accepted by the people because to us, religion is a faith that we should practice in heart.
323. Amin tan supports Tun Mahathir Mohamad because he is the ex-PM and owner of Che Det blog, who is the UMNO Baru 1st member.
324. I guess he earns quite comfortable living in BN strongholds, but when comes to voting, his vote goes to PAS during ups and downs.
325. Satu kalimah syahadah atau not dua kalimah syahadah, like we say, kalau masuk kandang lembu atau kambing, wajib ikut adat and lifestyle lembu kambing ini.
326. To him, being a Muslim is hak istimewaannya even though he is a Chinese by surname.
327. To us, being a Malaysian or Singaporean, we think and act like one regardless which states we are in.
328. MiddleAges is right, when comes to Malay and Muslim issues, some of them may get very excited.
329. It is amin’s personal right in interpreting Islam, and how he wants to interpret it, it does matter on this side of the land because there is no such thing that if you are Malay and Muslim, then you are treated with hak keistimewaan.
330. If he fits in, he is in.
331. If he does not fit in, we don‘t accept.
Goodnight Tun.
Salam Kasih dan Sayang
Ayahanda Rakyat Tun
Izinkan,
Our beloved Sdr. Amin Tan said…
‘ Listen to the AZAN carefully and note the word Rasullullah is pronounced. It has special meaning to all muslims of the world, the hardship and persecution, physical and verbal abuse he endured. You cannot separate Quran and Mohammad(PBUH)…
Noticed he did not used the word ‘Prophet’?
We learned today that
“THE PROPHET must be the PREACHER whom the human beings turned to(seek) for GUIDANCE in search of the ‘ heaven’ on earth.. to live in peace, in love and in harmony as ONE united human race”…
On the other hand,
“The SATAN must be the DESTROYER whom the human kinds turned to for Guidance in search of the ‘hell’ on earth.. to live in misery, in hatred and in vengeance as MANY divided human races”…
But MUHAMMAD the MESSENGER will light THE WAY to the ‘STAIRCASE TO HEAVEN’ to guide the followers and believers… of course those with the vision ( 20/20)
Sadly, the ‘blinded’ followers may have their visions distorted and may find difficulties up the ‘staircase’..
Wallahualam.
‘ YANG TERSURAT ITU PENGETAHUAN, YANG TERSIRAT ITU ILMU’
THE ‘VISION’ NEEDS BOTH..
ALFATIHAH, AMIN
Ps. I see, You see.. beloved brother!
Kita semua ni ibarat orang buta yang sedang meneka gajah…
Dear Tun,
May I comment on abdulazizomar. I quote
“” I am a believer who believe in God, Day of Judgment, Rasul&Prophets, Kitab, and Qadad&Qadar. I also do Contact Prayers, Fasting, read the right syahadah which is “There is no God except Allah”, give zakat and InsyAllah when I am given the chance, I will do Haj during my lifetime.
But you call me names and mocked me just because I do not believe in Hadith? What is wrong with me not believing in Hadith? Is there any Hadith during the time of Prophet Muhammad? What did he bring to you and me and the whole world? Quran or Hadith? What do you think Muhammad would say when he goes around doing his work in preaching Islam to the people of Medina and Mecca? Do you think he would say his own name in the Syahadah? Or perhaps just “La Ella Ha Ella Allah” which means “There is no God except Allah”.
The reason of me saying this is because I cant find any other syahadah other than this one. And if you read the whole Koran, you cannot find any ayat that shows any prophets go around saying their names in the syahadah during their time of preaching Islam. Moses, Harun, Jesus, Noah, Yusuf and even Muhammad..”"
Mr Aziz, yours is satu kalimah syahadah not dua kalimah syahadah. Then I think you change a lot of basic and fundamental things about islam. Without Mohammad there is no islam. The Christians and the Jews disputed about the athenticity of islam as a revelation of Allah. They said islam is the creation of Mohammad, just like what dtan, a non muslim tried to imply. In your azan you must have left out Mohammad as Rasullullah. Listen to the AZAN carefully and note the word Rasullullah is pronounced. It has special meaning to all muslims of the world, the hardship and persecution, physical and verbal abuse he endured. You cannot separate Quran and Mohammad(PBUH). I shoud say you try to create your own religion, using islam as the base and discard all hadis and sunnah, just like Masailama, the false prophet during the time of the prophet. The equivalent of false prophet in the modern time in Malaysia as mentioned by Tun is Ayah Pin. Mr Aziz, let me caution you. You may be arrested and charged in the sharie court by JAKIM for trying to promote deviationist teaching of islam in Malaysia.
No wonder, you and a few non muslims Chinaman support Dr Syed Alwi bin Ahmad. All of you have negative and sinister designs against islam. Wallahualam.
amin tan
To AbdulAzizOmar,
Your comment about ablution,
There are 4 steps in the Quran that is required for ablution.
What do you mean more then 4 steps?
From Mazhab Syafie it is 4 steps, Imam Syafie do not just decide according to his thinking but he is based on the Quran and he says something, he will make a “reference” to the Quran.
What you saw when people take ablution, sometimes they do more such as cleaning the outer ear with water, this is sunnah, not compulsary (wajib). Let me reiterate to you that according to mazhab syafie that Malaysian practice, it is 4 steps.
I would like to remind you to seek the correct practice about Islam before making a conclusion.
Secondly, there is nothing wrong reading the translation of the Quran in English, why not? but you have to bare in mind the there will be information “lost” in the translation. As such when a problem raise with respect to interpretation, then your interpretation from English translation will not be valid for argument.
Salam Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg diRahmati ALLAH,
1. Apa yang dikatakan oleh TGDrM dari 1 – 10 itu, memang benar belaka dan Islam adalah agama yang sebenar lagi suci.
2. Yang salah dan menyesatkan ialah manusia, di Msia amat malang sekali agama Islam yang sebenar dan suci ini telah dirosakkan oleh PAS, terutama Nik Aziz.
3. Sekarang sudah ada org Islam diMsia yg
i. Menyokong penzinaan.
ii. Berkhalwat dgn isteri orang boleh jadi Naib Presiden
iii. Membohongi rakyat.
iv. Mengutuk ALLAH dengan mengatakan ALLAH bersifat
mencarut
v. Tidak memperakui bangsa Melayunya sendiri
Takbir!…. Allahu Akbar.
And thank you Tun for publishing my comments.Abdul Aziz Omar is not the enemy of Islam..
HE IS THE IGNORANT ONE..
And ignorance is the enemy of Islam..
Ribuan Terima kasih Tun.
[[Look at yourself in the mirror Wajaperak. Who are you to condemn others?]]
Dutch commanded all the ounce’s of his energy left..He picked up the rock and edges closer to the gully..With what left of his willed energy..He uplifted the rock..Ready to slammed it to the creatures head..He stopped short at the sight that covered with the green liquids..
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU??…
Dutch mused..And dropped the rock..The creatures in his death seconds..echoing Dutch words..
What the hell are you?
And he opened something from it’s arm..clicking the panel..There is a distinct sounds beeps..beeps..beeps..Dutch sensed danger.. backtracked and ran as fast as he could followed by the maniacal laughter of the best…
Ho..Ho..Ho…Ohoho..
There was a flash of lighting and Dutch jumped the last meter and…
Alamak..apa yang saya dah melalut ni Tun?..Itulah dia kisah akhir hayat Predator dalam Predator yang asal.Kerjanya mengupas kulit manusia yang dia rasa layak menjadi buruannya..
“Leave the gun.He did not kill you because you are unarmed.Such sports!!”
People like Abdul Aziz Omar is a coward.He did not frequenting the mosque like Allah intruscted him to do so..He attacks Islam in cyberspace an claimed he is man enough for his deeds and action.
Tun will be guilty of collaborating with him and the likes of him if Tun did not allowed me to defends Islam..
[[ Are you a Saint? You yourself busy defending Hadith and I am defending Koran. Who is on the right path now? People who believe Hadith or people who believe the Koran? There is only one path brother, not 2]]
He is so arrogant in accussing a muslim for trying to reminds him a thing or two.
Tun..I don’t think Abdul Aziz Omar is his real name.My real name is Ibnu Othman.And my e mail adress puakaalam7@yahoo.com
Walk your talk mister and writes to me.Don’t give excuse to Tun to denies me the opportunity to defend Islam in his blog.Please do not bother Tun in his blog.Write to me..
I’ll be outside..Waiting ( Highlander.1986)
Terima kasih JB_From. Jangan bagi can dekat Abdul Aziz Omar..
Terima kasih Tun..
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
[[A’kum Tun]]
What the hell is this salutation?? Where do you find this from??
In Quran there is a verses about salam…
surat Al-An’aam ayat 54:
Jika orang-orang yang beriman kepada ayat-ayat Kami (Al-Qur’an) datang kepadamu, ucapkanlah “Salaamun’alaikum (selamat-sejahtera bagimu)”, Tuhanmu telah menetapkan bagi diri-Nya kasih-sayang. (Iaitu) Bahwa barangsiapa berbuat kejahatan karena kejahilannya (tidak tahu/bodoh) kemudian dia bertaubat setelah itu dan memperbaiki diri, maka sesungguhnya Allah Maha Pengampun lagi Maha Penyayang.
You claimed that you are practictioner of Al Quran…How embarrasing that Allah disown you even in proper salutation!!
[[Please allow me to answer some personal attack from our friend, Wajaperak.]]
I never attacked you,Shaikino and the Professor Of The Hidden Secret..I measured you using a system.In Imperial we use inch,onz and pound for unit of measurement.In metric we use cm to measures height..There is a proper methodology of measuremnet in AL Quran.It is agreed by saints and sage that we acknowledge them as hadith.I did not attack you..I measures you by this unit of establishment..
You and the other two is kafir according to Hadith..Fullstop.I did not says so.The Islamic establishment measures it as so..
There..
[[Dear brother]] Ok..
[[I am a believer who believe in God, Day of Judgment, Rasul&Prophets, Kitab, and Qadad&Qadar. I also do Contact Prayers, Fasting, read the right syahadah which is “There is no God except Allah”, give zakat and InsyAllah when I am given the chance, I will do Haj during my lifetime]]
This is got nothing to do with me..The requirements of muslim is only for Allah to judges.I measures your action not by inches,km,centigrade or any worldly unit of measurement’s..
I measures you by your hatred towards hadith..Fullstop.
[[But you call me names and mocked me just because I do not believe in Hadith? What is wrong with me not believing in Hadith? Is there any Hadith during the time of Prophet Muhammad? What did he bring to you and me and the whole world? Quran or Hadith? What do you think Muhammad would say when he goes around doing his work in preaching Islam to the people of Medina and Mecca? Do you think he would say his own name in the Syahadah? Or perhaps just “La Ella Ha Ella Allah” which means “There is no God except Allah”]]
This is useless because of your strong hatred towards hadith and no common ground for us to interact..The basic of Islamic education is “AwalltuDin Makrifatullah”..
How do you learns Islam??
[[So please correct me if I am wrong for the above verse]]
Yes.You were wrong.You are wrong.You will be wronged.I am not the person whom you needs to consult.Dr Uthman El Muhammadi is one.Have you talk to him??
[[But most people including you brother Wajaperak insist on saying Quran is very hard to learn. But God said otherwise. So tell me now, should I follow you and your ignorant thoughts about Quran or should I follow the order of Allah who says that He made the Quran easy to learn?]]
Now my challenges towards Dr Asri I directed to you..Why we cannot pronounce “ThotLin” in Fatihah??
[[ Hadith was written by the Sahabats or someone who claim to know Muhammad. Hadith was only written down 200 years after Prophet Muhammad died. How can you confirm all the Hadiths are true and authentic? Can you confirm all that?]]
Qoute..”We have been through this before”.Europe band in the song “Carrie”..
Hadith is not written.There were documented.The definition of written and documentation is way different from your comprehension.Seeks the knowledge from the people in the know.This is Allah advice for you from Al Quran..Why do you contradicts yourself??
[[Are you saying that all the ayat in the Koran is not perfect?]]
Only kafirian says Al Quran not perfect..And the word koran means nothing in Arabic..Don’t you tries to use it in describing Al Quran…The word is Al Quran and not koran..What is koran??
[[Some say we need the Hadith to explain the Quran because the Quran is too difficult to understand]]
Nice twist Mister.The truth is Rasullulah s.a.w needs to demonstrate how it is done.How do Islamic people gets married? Is there the methodology of how in Al Quran?? No it is not?..So..Allah decreed Rasullulah s.a.w to shows them to us muslims..How do you performs and solemnize marriages??
IKUT KEPALA OTAK KAU??
No wonders many adultery happens..To their belief and definition it is ok..But unfortunately Islam have their rule,laws and regulation..Your’s and them is not applicable..
[[It is almost impossible for anyone to go through all the books of Hadith without getting confused and totally lost, especially if the person wants to examine what each different sect has to offer]]
You mean you wants to contradicts this verses from Al Quran??
Allah SWT berfirman, artinya:
“Dan orang-orang yang berjihad untuk (mencari keridloan) Kami, benar-benar akan Kami tunjukkan kepada mereka jalan-jalan Kami. Dan sesungguhnya Allah benar-benar beserta orang-orang yang berbuat baik.” (29:69)
Shame on you..Abdul Aziz..
[[The religious rules and regulations based on such innovations contain and cover literally every aspect of life from walking, eating, laughing, sleeping?almost anything one can think of. The rules such as how to use the bathroom and what to do in there! The details are too gross and shocking to mention]]
What gross and shocking??
You have forgotten this verse from Al Quran too??
Dalam surah al-A’raf ayat 200, Allah SWT berfirman yang bermaksud: “Dan jika engkau dihasut dengan hasutan syaitan, maka mintalah perlindungan daripada Allah, sesungguhnya Allah Maha Mendengar lagi Maha Merahmati.”
And when is the time you are free from “hasutan syaitan”..
Alamak..I am so sorry..Not everybody can free themselves from hasutan syaitan like
YOU!!….Ahem..Ahem..
We,the general muslimin needs Al Hadith to practices how to be free from “hasutan syaitan”..
[[There are even grosser sayings and deeds attributed to the prophet regarding his sex life, preferences and sexual de-sires. Didn’t these so called narrators have anything else to do but peek in the Prophet’s private life? How could such perverse narrators be considered reliable sources of information? These are the type of people who produced such blasphemous and incredible lies against a prophet of God! More incredible is the hypocrisy of the religious “experts” who supposedly follow these lies out of love and respect for the prophet!]]
Ouch..Such blasphemy!!..But to the mere muslimin like me..We are just following this verse from Al Quran…
Firman Allah dalam surah al-Ahzab ayat 21 yang bermaksud: “Sesungguhnya pada diri Rasulullah itu sebaik-baik teladan bagi kamu (untuk diikuti) iaitu bagi orang yang mengharapkan (keredhaan) Allah dan (kemuliaan hidup) di akhirat dan orang yang banyak mengingati Allah”.
And so strange for the follower of only AL Quran did not mentioned this..By the way how do methodologically follow Rasullulah s.a.w “teladan’??
[[Because these people are completely ignorant about the essence of the religion of submission, and thus they think the religion is a bunch of rules and regulations on the petty details of life. They make the religion difficult for themselves while being proud of having difficulties and misery as part of their devotion to their “religion.”]]
Aha..Now the narccisist is talking..Yeah..yeah..I gave it to you that you is the finest specimen of mukmin…But..
we the mere muslimin strongly disagrees!!
[[ Which religion or God are they devoting themselves to? It cannot be the same One who clearly stated in the Quran that He made the religion easy for us, that He did not reveal the Quran to make things difficult for us (20:2)]]
Aha..How easy is easy?..Damn those hadither..I just only wants to prays one rakaat a day..Why must they make my life miserable?…You mean this kind of easy??
[[Indeed, the Hadith books are full of contradictions, subtle or clear insults and blasphemies to Almighty God as well as the prophet himself. What kind of a messenger would Muhammad be if he did or said some of the things that were attributed to him? Muhammad lived by the Quran and he was an example for us. Anyone who followed the Quran which came through his mouth would not utter such blasphemous or ridiculous sayings. Such sayings, of course, cannot be but plain lies and conjecture. Would Muhammad ever blaspheme against God saying that God created the heavens and the earth for his sake, and that God’s throne was made up of his light? Would the prophet ever ask people to praise himself, instead of praising God, the Almighty, when the Quran clearly says that all praises belong to God? Never, ever. This is clearly stated in the following verse:
Never would a human being whom God blessed with the scripture and prophethood say to the people, “Idolize me beside God.” Instead, (he would say), “Devote yourselves absolutely to your Lord alone,” according to the scripture you preach and the teachings you learn. [3:79] ]]
Wow!! You are more learned from sahabat,ulamak tabiin and tabiin,sage and muslims saints!! Oh..wow..
WHAT CAN I SAYS MORE….narcisist??
[[God condemns the Hadith by name in the Quran, and informs us that it is a blasphemous fabrication (45:6-7). He says that the Quran is one consistent source since it’s His Word. There is no contradiction in it. If it were from other than God, as Hadith books are, they would have found in it numerous contradictions (4:82)]]
Hear..Hear from me..The ultimate narcissist..Opps..I mean the ultimate source of revealation…Damn you hadither..Could you learn a thing a two from me?….Ahem..
[[To brother Wajaperak, please answer and debate like a man]]
I am a man according to Islam.I practiced this atsar..
“Seperti singa di siang hari dan abid di malam hari” to the best of my abilities..
[[Do not call people names and mock them just because they dont believe the way you believe.]]
I mock kafirian the way Nabi Ibrahim a.s. mocks Namrud..
I says..The biggest idol is the one who did it..My attitudes is in accordance to the Al Quran..
“Biarlah orang kafir itu merasa kekerasan dari mu..”
[[God’s Heaven is not easy to achieve brother. We all should strive to our best to achieve it.]]
And why would I want Allah heaven?? Everyday I looks into the mirror I knew the reason and purpose of my living in the world..
IT IS DEFINITELY NOT FOR WANTING TO BE IN HEAVEN!!
It is in AL Quran..Tak jumpa ke ayatnya??
[[You may say whatever you like about me not believing in Hadith. I simply not believing in Hadith not because of anyone else, but because there is contradiction between the the 2 books]]
Look at me..The learned of the utmost learned.I surpassed all the muslim saints and sage like Imam Syafie,Imam Hanbali,Imam Maliki,Imam Ahmad,Imam Al Ghazali..My Ihya Syaitoonuddin even surpassed Imam Al Ghazali Ihya Ulumiddin!!
People all over the world looks to me for the source of inspiration!!
[[Thank you Tun, and I hope that you comment also regarding this. If you think I am crazy Tun, you can delete me from your blog to complement the demand from Wajaperak who says I am the enemy of Islam]]
And thank you Tun for publishing my comments.Abdul Aziz Omar is not the enemy of Islam..
HE IS THE IGNORANT ONE..
And ignorance is the enemy of Islam..
Ribuan Terima kasih Tun.
Look at yourself in the mirror Wajaperak. Who are you to condemn others? Are you a Saint? You yourself busy defending Hadith and I am defending Koran. Who is on the right path now? People who believe Hadith or people who believe the Koran? There is only one path brother, not 2.
Assalamualaikum,
Dear Tun Mahathir & Malaysians,
I find it rather funny how some have misunderstood and misread – my postings ! Let me say it again – there is absolutely nothing wrong in admitting that it is harder to govern a Muslim country – because of the problems in interpreting the Syariah.
The Non-Muslims do not have to deal with the issue of the Syariah.
The world is watching Malaysia – and it seems that Malaysia is unravelling. Why ? Because Malaysia is divided. And why is she divided ? Well – PAS and UMNO cannot unite. Why ? Because PAS has a different interpretation of Islam than UMNO.
But this is precisely what afflicts the Muslim world. Development in the Muslim world is severely hampered by conflicts over the interpretation of Islam.
And why is this so ? Because of 2 reasons.
Firstly the ijtihad of the Imam Mazhab was made in the context of 11th century Middle East – but the industrialised world of the 21st century bears little resemblance to the 11th century Middle East. So social context has changed enormously.
The second reason is that the Prophet is no longer with us today – to give a Divine interpretation. There are no more prophets. Mahahtir’s interpretation is just as good as Nik Aziz or even mine or yours. None of us has access or can claim to – a Divine interpretation.
In the Muslim world – events are viewed under the light of the Syariah whose interpretation is subject to many contradictory factors. End result ? Disunity and chaos !
In Malaysia – even the poco-poco dance can result in disunity ! One Mufti agrees. Another Mufti disagrees. One former Mufti likes to comment on politics – but himself does not want to join politics ! Not to mention that there are millions of self-styled Ustazs and Ustazahs who each have their own ideas !
End result ? Chaos and disunity ! Melingkup terus !
I’m sorry Malaysia – but the world is watching all this and frankly – it does NOT look good. Apa ni ? Please lah Malaysia – you bikin kalut politiks – orang luar tengok – Islam yang dapat nama busuk ! Macam mana you nafikan pun tak guna. Orang luar buat decision based on their observations.
You can say whatever you like – but the world is watching……and action speaks louder than words. As they say – the proof of the pudding is in the eating – and not in the talking !
So that is why I challenge Malaysia – go and find an interpretation of Islam that is agreeable to ALL in Malaysia.
Do it and unite. Malaysia cannot afford to remain a divided society. Because no further progress can be made if this goes on.
Wassalam
Dr Syed Alwi Bin Ahmad (Alsree)
http://www.iium.edu.my/deed/quran/malay/
Surah Yusuf(12)
ayat[1],ayat[2]
Alif, Laam, Raa’. Ini ialah ayat-ayat Kitab Al-Quran yang menyatakan kebenaran.
Sesungguhnya Kami menurunkan kitab itu sebagai Quran yang dibaca dengan bahasa Arab, supaya kamu (menggunakan akal untuk) memahaminya.
Surah A-li ‘Imraan(3)
ayat[7]
“Dan yang lain lagi ialah ayat-ayat “Mutasyaabihaat” (yang samar-samar, tidak terang maksudnya). Oleh sebab itu (timbulah faham yang berlainan menurut kandungan hati masing-masing) – adapun orang-orang yang ada dalam hatinya kecenderungan ke arah kesesatan, maka mereka selalu menurut apa yang samar-samar dari Al-Quran untuk mencari fitnah dan mencari-cari Takwilnya (memutarkan maksudnya menurut yang disukainya). Padahal tidak ada yang mengetahui Takwilnya (tafsir maksudnya yang sebenar) melainkan Allah.”
Surah Yunus(10)
ayat[37]
“Al-Quran itu diturunkan oleh Allah untuk membenarkan Kitab-kitab yang diturunkan sebelumnya, dan untuk menjelaskan satu persatu hukum-hukum”
Al-Quran can interpretate itself
Al-Quran boleh menTafsirkan Al-Quran.
Tun,
In the first place, religion is for self governance and never intended to rule a nation. No religion provides teaching or talk about running a country. Only bad people with bad intention used religion for your own benefits. The moment any politicians or leaders talk about religion or start telling or showing people that they are holier or religiously right, we should be very beware of these types of politicians. They are the conman and crooks using religion as their cover or mask. The person or persons that are entitle to teach or tell you about religion and moral are parents or grandparents and GOD and no one else. Even so called holy man have they own version, interpretations and intention because religion is man-made and man can remake to suit them.
It is better to be spiritually right then religiously right. Thru-out history we have seen how religion causes so many problems to the world. Every nation that used religion as their core method to run their Govt is in trouble and you still think religion can do something right for any nation.
Religious teaching or doing is between yourself and the creator and it cannot be used any other ways. No holy books talk about using its teaching to run any nation, only men use it for its benefits.
Lastly, if anyone is religious they should not be employed or become involved in politics or running country and organisation. They should be at home praying and doing charity work without any titles (Datuk, Tan Sri or Tun). They also should not have driver or servants to serve them and received red-carpet treatment. Basically all man and woman claiming to be religious are professionals like all other professionals (laywers, doctors & etc..) They take examination to earn a living.
Salam Tun….
Watch out for false flags’ – Lendman on Oslo attacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyi7_pKEXV8&NR=1
Salam Tun,
1. I do think Islam is totally misunderstood in a most unearthly manner. This i think is due its inherent high degree of intelligence. Islam itself has been hijacked, yes, by those who do not understand it in it’s complete form.
2. It has been said that the Quran and Sunnah should be read in the light of Allah (God). And this is exactly where the entire problem of the Islamic world begun.
3. When you say interpretation Tun, or re-interpretation as Dr Syed calls it, it needs to be done correctly in the light of Allah. Otherwise, i fear, here we go again, another round of misinterpretation. This has been prophesized. And it has happened in other religions before Islam.
4. If interpreted in the light of Allah, i believe the true form of Islam will emerge. If it does not, one can always stay with the Quran and Sunnah, and be safe. And continue seeking.
5. As for the very widely varied intrepretations, it does not matter. That is a “human right” ( if that’s the right word ). But it is important the leader gets it right, yes.
6. Someone posted that there will be 73 versions, out of which only one version is right, but everyone goes to “heaven”, except that the incorrect version goes to “hell” for a brief moment. I am repeating this here, because this holds the key to peace amongst muslims who differ.
7. Malays are very afraid to be on the wrong side. The saying is “berani kerana benar, taku kerana salah”. But in light of (6), where everyone goes to heaven, why is it muslims, especially the Malays, insist everyone else must follow their own version ? And insist on punishing those who differ and those who disbelief ? Do you know better than Allah ?
8. I cannot over emphasise the importance of the concept of that everyone goes to Heaven. So please Muslims and Malays, relax a little.
9. As for PAS, and political Islam, it is clearly power motivated. Why else would anyone enter politics ? For money ? The highest form of religion is the pursuit of knowledge. If one has sound political knowledge, by all means, go get your votes. But if you use the knowledge of Islam to get votes, i fear, the Islamic system might collapse. Still, i respect your right to do so, as long as it is all done in the name of Peace. But i certainly do not recommend it. If PAS comes to me for votes, i have a long long list of questions. It maybe by the time you are finished with the answers, election is already over.
Thank you kindly Tun.
Y.A.Bhg Tun
Although Tun never referred to PAS as charlatans, this Syed Alwi fellow claimed that Tun had used the term charlatans to refer to PAS. If that is not bad enough, he then went on to accuse Tun as being simplistic. Where did he get his PhD from?
Tun had defended Islam. Islam was not, is not and will not be the cause of Muslim’s backwardness. The problems was caused by the Muslims themselves, particularly by wrongly interpreting Islam, usually to serve their un-Islamic objectives.
Syed Alwi illogically responded by throwing a challenge to Tun to ‘reproduce’ the interpretations of Islam during the times of Nabi Mohamad SAW by bringing up the dead. How silly!!
He then suggested that these interpretations were out-dated and not suitable for the 21st century. He is clearly a victim of his own illogic thinking.
Where did he learn his logic?. Tun did not say we need correct interpretations of Islam. What Tun said was our problems was caused by our wrong interpretations of Islam.
If we have to spell out the A, B and C to this Syed, then it has to be this … the Quran and Sunnah had all the principles and guidelines to steer the good muslim to be Allah’s khalifah on this earth.
The Quran and Sunnah is not in coded form or written in some ancient hieroglyphs. Interpretations does not even defines Islam. The Quran and Sunnah is what defines Islam.
Why this Syed is kicking up so much fuss about interpretation as if Islam is defined by these interpretations? Perhaps he is stuck in the indefensible position of accusing Islam as the cause for Muslim problems. May be this is his pathetic efforts in defending Lee Kuan Yew’s attack of Islam – that it is the cause of Singaporean muslims not fully integrating with mainstream Chinese population of Singapore.
A’kum Tun,
Please allow me to share some verse from the Koran to everyone especially Wajaperak. I want to read and understand. Please do not condemn others just because they do not believe the same way as you believe.
1. Ablution
[5:6] O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall: (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles. If you were unclean due to sexual orgasm, you shall bathe. If you are ill, or traveling, or had any digestive excretion (urinary, fecal, or gas), or had (sexual) contact with the women, and you cannot find water, you shall observe the dry ablution (Tayammum) by touching clean dry soil, then rubbing your faces and hands. God does not wish to make the religion difficult for you; He wishes to cleanse you and to perfect His blessing upon you, that you may be appreciative.
[5:7] Remember God’s blessing upon you, and His covenant that He covenanted with you: you said, “We hear and we obey.” You shall observe God; God is fully aware of the innermost thoughts.
So the above verse stated clearly the steps needed for us to do Wuduk which is 4 steps. But today, people tend to do more than that just to please their leaders. Just because someone else wrote that we need to do extra 4 steps to match God’s order, we blindly follow.
Here I want to ask you Wajaperak. This may be a small matter to you. But if you really believe in the Koran and the word of Allah, you would not simply add and or minus His commandment just to please yourself. By doing extra, you are not following His order. He asked us to do 4 steps, but we think God forget to inform us another 4 steps, and suddenly we need Hadith to come and correct Allah’s blessing upon us and make it 8 steps instead. Are you telling me, we need to follow Hadith over Koran now? Please answer this……
2. Quran: The Ultimate Reference
[5:48] Then we revealed to you this scripture, truthfully, confirming previous scriptures, and superseding them. You shall rule among them in accordance with God’s revelations, and do not follow their wishes if they differ from the truth that came to you. For each of you, we have decreed laws and different rites. Had God willed, He could have made you one congregation. But He thus puts you to the test through the revelations He has given each of you. You shall compete in righteousness. To God is your final destiny – all of you – then He will inform you of everything you had disputed.
[5:49] You shall rule among them in accordance with God’s revelations to you. Do not follow their wishes, and beware lest they divert you from some of God’s revelations to you. If they turn away, then know that God wills to punish them for some of their sins. Indeed, many people are wicked.
[5:50] Is it the law of the days of ignorance that they seek to uphold? Whose law is better than God’s for those who have attained certainty?
3. Do Not Prohibit Lawful Things
[5:87] O you who believe, do not prohibit good things that are made lawful by God, and do not aggress; God dislikes the aggressors.
[5:88] And eat from the good and lawful things that God has provided for you. You shall reverence God, in whom you are believers.
How many times do we see that scholars prohibit us from eating some food just because they feel it is Haram. But it was never authorized by Allah. So in this case, which one to follow Wajaperak? Hadith or Koran?
5. All Creatures of the Sea Lawful to Eat
[5:96] All fish of the sea are made lawful for you to eat. During pilgrimage, this may provide for you during your journey. You shall not hunt throughout the pilgrimage. You shall reverence God, before whom you will be summoned.
Yet Imam/Hadith wrote that we cannot eat some creatures of the sea because of certain reason that they have made up to please themselves and create confusion among the muslim.
6. Quran, the Whole Quran, and Nothing But the Quran
[6:19] Say, “Whose testimony is the greatest?” Say, “God’s. He is the witness between me and you that this Quran* has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches. Indeed, you bear witness that there are other gods* beside God.” Say, “I do not testify as you do; there is only one God, and I disown your idolatry.”
*6:19 This verse proclaims the Quran as the only source of religious guidance. Those who uphold additional sources, such as Hadith & Sunna (lies attributed to the Prophet), are defined as idolaters.
[6:20] Those to whom we have given the scripture recognize this as they recognize their own children. The ones who lose their souls are those who do not believe.
[6:21] Who is more evil than one who lies about God, or rejects His revelations? The transgressors never succeed.
7. Respect for the Word of God
[6:68] If you see those who mock our revelations, you shall avoid them until they delve into another subject. If the devil causes you to forget, then, as soon as you remember, do not sit with such evil people.
[6:69] The righteous are not responsible for the utterances of those people, but it may help to remind them; perhaps they may be saved.
[6:70] You shall disregard those who take their religion in vain, as if it is a social function, and are totally absorbed in this worldly life. Remind with this (Quran), lest a soul may suffer the consequences of its evil earnings. It has none beside God as a Lord and Master, nor an intercessor. If it could offer any kind of ransom, it would not be accepted. They suffer the consequences of the evil works they earn; they have incurred hellish drinks, and a painful retribution because of their disbelief.
[6:71] Say, “Shall we implore, beside God, what possesses no power to benefit us or hurt us, and turn back on our heels after God has guided us? In that case, we would join those possessed by the devils, and rendered utterly confused, while their friends try to save them: `Stay with us on the right path.’ ” Say, “God’s guidance is the right guidance. We are commanded to submit to the Lord of the universe.
[6:72] “And to observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), and to reverence Him – He is the One before whom you will be summoned (for the reckoning).”
[6:73] He is the One who created the heavens and the earth, truthfully. Whenever He says, “Be,” it is. His word is the absolute truth. All sovereignty belongs to Him the day the horn is blown. Knower of all secrets and declarations, He is the Most Wise, the Cognizant.
8. Hadith & Sunna: Fabrications by the Prophet’s Enemies
[6:112] We have permitted the enemies of every prophet – human and jinn devils – to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.
[6:113] This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.
Please comment on the above verse Wajaperak. It is very clearly stated there that enemy of prophet will fabricate something to create confusion among the believers. They are enemy of God, and Prophet. But God is great, He allows it to happen so that the real people who do not believe will be exposed because they put Hadith above Koran. To distinguish between the real believers and lip service believers.
9. Quran: Fully Detailed*
[6:114] Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
[6:115] The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient
[6:116] If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of God. They follow only conjecture; they only guess.
[6:117] Your Lord is fully aware of those who stray off His path, and He is fully aware of those who are guided.
[6:118] You shall eat from that upon which God’s name has been pronounced, if you truly believe in His revelations.
But I think in your opinion Wajaperak, you need Hadith to explain the Koran? If so, how could it be when Allah stated clearly that the Koran is fully detailed and complete? Are you telling me that Allah forget to write another book to explain the Koran? Please answer…..
10. Zakat Must Be Given “On The Day Of Harvest”*
[6:141] He is the One who established gardens, trellised and untrellised, and palm trees, and crops with different tastes, and olives, and pomegranate – fruits that are similar, yet dissimilar. Eat from their fruits, and give the due alms on the day of harvest,* and do not waste anything. He does not love the wasters.
*6:141 Zakat charity is so important, the Most Merciful has restricted His mercy to those who give it (7:156). Yet, the corrupted Muslims have lost this most important commandment; they give Zakat only once a year. We see here that Zakat must be given away “on the day we receive income.” The proportion that came to us through Abraham is 2.5% of our net income.
11. The Only Dietary Prohibitions
[6:145] Say, “I do not find in the revelations given to me any food that is prohibited for any eater except: (1) carrion, (2) running blood, (3) the meat of pigs, for it is contaminated, and (4) the meat of animals blasphemously dedicated to other than God.” If one is forced (to eat these), without being deliberate or malicious, then your Lord is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
But today, we hear Hadith and Imam says that we are not allowed to eat many more food. So which one to follow?
12. Religious Sects Condemned
[6:159] Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with you. Their judgment rests with God, then He will inform them of everything they had done.
[6:160] Whoever does a righteous work receives the reward for ten, and the one who commits a sin is requited for only one. No one suffers the slightest injustice.
[6:161] Say, “My Lord has guided me in a straight path – the perfect religion of Abraham, monotheism. He never was an idol worshiper.”
[6:162] Say, “My Contact Prayers (Salat), my worship practices, my life and my death, are all devoted absolutely to God alone, the Lord of the universe.
[6:163] “He has no partner. This is what I am commanded to believe, and I am the first to submit.”
[6:164] Say, “Shall I seek other than God as a lord, when He is the Lord of all things? No soul benefits except from its own works, and none bears the burden of another. Ultimately, you return to your Lord, then He informs you regarding all your disputes.”
[6:165] He is the One who made you inheritors of the earth, and He raised some of you above others in rank, in order to test you in accordance with what He has given you. Surely, your Lord is efficient in enforcing retribution, and He is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
These are just some of the verses that I quote and share with everyone here to look into details of the meaning of the Holy Koran. There are so much more to find and explore about the beauty of it. Also the right teaching of Islam that has been given to Prophet Muhammad to be delivered to all human.
Now if you want to debate Wajaperak, please use only the Koran as your source of reference and nothing else.
I want you to answer some of the question that I raised for you. And please debate like a man, not calling people names and mocking others.
If you think you know so much about Islam and the Koran, I want to learn from you as well. Since I do not know much about the Koran.
Thank you Tun for allowing me to share my knowledge and InsyAllah I will post some more verses from the Koran when I have the chance.
May Allah bless us all
Assalamualaikum Tun Rd. Mahathir and fans.
The teaching of Muslims (morons as wise) to hate others as clerics as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMTpZaWpLPo one, praves the road to hate his own brothers.
If I’m not mistaken a big audience attaended that cleric. I’m pretty sure he is a cleric from Malaysia. Did someone stop him from talking hatred?
This is the secret of Jews hatred seeds which Islam implants into their own hearts. Brainwashing in its best.
I found the proper answer to such people. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMTpZaWpLPo.
Hanan,
Jewish, Israel.
Kepada WajaPerak,
Komen saudara hendak bersemuka dengan Dr. Syed Alwi, saya rasa tidak perlu kita membuang masa hendak berdebat dengannya. Nak kata pakar Ilmu agama pun tidak, pakar Ilmu manusia seperti sociology pun tidak, pakar politik pun tidak. Nak berdebat dengan dia tidak kemana.
Dia pakar fizik, belajar berkenaan dengan benda-benda yang tidak bernyawa.
Dunia akhir zaman macam-macam manusia pun ada.
Sallam
Dear Tun,
I want to share with everybody this tafsir of Surah Al-Baqrah ayat 12 which I think is relevent to your topic.
أَلَآ إِنَّهُمۡ هُمُ ٱلۡمُفۡسِدُونَ وَلَـٰكِن لَّا يَشۡعُرُونَ
12. No indeed! They are surely those who make fasad but they are not aware of it.
In the previous ayah Allah (swt) told us about the hypocrites. Allah (swt) told us how when it is said to them not to cause corruption and disorder in the land they say that they are only making peace and setting things right. In this ayah Allah (swt) responds to such a claim of theirs. First we see the word la, which is an extremely strong tool of negation. Then we see the word inna to stress and emphasize certainty. So Allah (swt) is telling us that by no means, and in no way are they the Muslihoon. Allah (swt) tells us that in no way whatsoever are they making peace in the land. Look at the emphasis and certainty with which Allah (swt) is rejecting their claim to be Muslihoon. This shows that in no way whatsoever are they Muslihoon. They do not in any bring any peace and righteousness to the land. They only bring corruption and fasad. Then in the next part of the ayah Allah (swt) tells us that they are surely those who cause fasad in the land. Despite their claim to be Muslihoon they are certainly those who make fasad. See then how evil such people are. Their words are nothing but deception and what they are bringing is the exact opposite of what they are saying. May Allah (swt) save this Ummah from being deceived from such people! May Allah (swt) save us from the hypocrites within our own community and the enemies of this Message who pretend to be our friends and who pretend to be believers! The say that what they want is what is best for the Muslims and what is best for mankind but in reality they want to prevent Muslims from living the true Islam and they want to prevent the Message of Allah (swt) from reaching the people. This ayah also shows us that our final standard for judging people and judging statements must be what Allah (swt) says and not what the people say. No matter what people might say and no matter how vehemently they may claim it to be true, what they say should not be accepted if it in any way contradicts what Allah (swt) or the Prophet (saw) have said. Sometimes the corrupt people of this world will make a claim that is the exact opposite of what the reality is or a claim that completely contradicts Quran and Sunnah. So before we blindly follow what they say, we should first see what Allah (swt) says or what the Prophet (saw) have said about the matter. If what they say does not contradict with the Quran and Sunnah, then we should try to see for ourselves how true their statement is. If we find that their statement matches the reality then we can accept it. However if their statement does not match the reality or it is not in conformity with the Quran and Sunnah, then we should not accept it. Even if they are scholars and even if they are Muslims. For example there are respected and well-known Muslim scholars today who say that there is no such thing as the Islamic State. They say that Islam has no political dimension and that it is only spiritual. Such a claim contradicts both the reality because the State existed for thousands of years and it also contradicts the hundreds of ayahs and ahadith where Allah (swt) has told us that Sovereignty is only for Him (swt). Now many ignorant and naïve Muslims believe such statements simply because it came from the mouth of a Muslim scholar. They do not check what he is saying against the reality and they do not check what he is saying against the Quran and Sunnah. Thus they are deceived by these hypocrites and their lies. Now we are not saying that we should mistrust and doubt our Muslim scholars. We are simply saying that we should be aware that there are hypocrites within our community, and we should be aware that the tongue of the son of Adam is capable of great lies and falsehood. There are people who claim to be Muslims but who are working for the powers be and who are trying to prevent Islam from returning. So before we accept any statement from anyone we should first see what the Quran and Sunnah have to say about what they said. If we do not find any contradictions to their statements in the Book of Allah (swt) or the words of His (swt)’s Messenger (saw) then we should try to see if their statement fits the reality ourselves. If we do not find their statement to conflict with the reality as we know it then we can accept what they say. Otherwise we should be careful about what we accept from such people. May Allah (swt) give us the ability to distinguish between the Truth and falsehood! May Allah (swt) give us the ability to only take from this Din what is of it and may He (swt) protect us from what is not of it! In the final part of this ayah Allah (swt) tells us that they are not aware. Al-Qurtubi says that there are two meanings for this part of the ayah. One meaning is that they are not aware of the fact that Prophet (saw) knows what they are doing. We know that Allah (swt) sent revelation to the Prophet (saw) to make him (saw) aware of the plots and plans of the hypocrites. If we take this meaning, then Allah (swt) is telling us that the hypocrites are planning to spread fasad in the land by plotting to destroy the Islamic State but they are not aware of the fact that the Prophet (saw) knows everything that they are doing. Another meaning that this ayah gives is the hypocrites themselves are not aware of the fact that destroying the Islamic State will spread fasad in the land. They actually believe that they are Muslihoon and that they are doing good works and that they are spreading peace in the land. They actually believe this when in fact they are doing the opposite. So they are not even aware of the evil and corruption that they are causing in the land only because they want to follow their lusts and desires. They do not realize what a terrible catastrophe it would be for all mankind if the Islamic State were destroyed. They actually believe that a secular government where men rule by their desires is actually better for mankind than the Law of the Creator. They do not see the pressing need to convey this Message to all mankind on a global and mass level. They claim to be Muslims and they claim to be believers but their thinking and their view of the world is the exact opposite of what a Muslim should have. Because of this they continue to make plots against the Message of Allah (swt) without even being aware of the evil that their plots will bring. For this ayah Sayyid Qutb also brings our attention to the fact that by believing themselves to be Muslihoon they are also displaying their arrogance and their pride. Even though they are trying to bring down the entity that represents the Law of Allah (swt) in the land and the entity that carries the Message of Allah (swt) to mankind, they are still so filled with pride of themselves that they think they are doing right in trying to bring the State down. They are so proud of themselves that in their eyes what is bad has become good, and what is wrong has become right. They think that what they desire is what is right. That is the extent to which they have corrupted themselves. They think that what is best and what is good is what will satisfy their desires and please them and not what will conform to the Law of Allah (swt) and please Him (swt). Such was their arrogance and pride in that they thought they knew better than the Creator and Sustainer of the universe. The lesson that we can take from this part of the ayah is to realize how dangerous such people are. It is one thing when a people want to spread fasad in the land by ruling with their own laws, but it is another thing when they think that they are Muslihoon by doing such a thing. They think that they are doing good by following their desires and lusts instead of worshipping and serving Allah (swt). They think that mankind would be better off being a slave of their passions instead of being a slave to Allah (swt). Their arrogance and sense of self-righteousness that they have for themselves allows them to do anything they seem fit to achieve their goal. It blinds them to the evil of what they are doing. They do not care how many people have to die, they do not care how much disorder and chaos that they have to chaos. They see themselves on the rig
ht Path so they will stop at nothing to achieve their goal. An example of this in today’s time is the saying of a Western leader that the thousands of children who died in Iraq as a result of the economic sanctions was “justified” to protect and preserve “freedom and democracy”. They see themselves as Muslihoon and so they are willing to do anything to reach their goal. As they would say “the ends justify the means”. May Allah (swt) save us from them!
Assalamu’alaikum Tun,
saya harap Tun jgn terpedaya dgn muslihat orang-orang seperti Dr “Syed” Alwi ini.dia tak lebih dari satu diantara sekian banyak utusan-utusan syaitan yg cuba menentukan arah pemikiran kita menurut acuan majikan nya,yg besar kemungkinan nya adalah LKY.
sekarang ini sudah seakan-akan menjadi trend di seluruh dunia bagi umat Islam mengutuk agama nya sendiri untuk mendapat pengiktirafan orang-orang kafir.mudah saja bagi seorang muslim untuk menang Anugerah Nobel,kutuk saja Islam..maka berbondong-bondong lah kaum kafir mendatangi nya dgn berbagai anugerah dan pengiktirafan.
Salman Rushdie,Taslima Nasrin,Amina Wadud dan banyak lagi telah mendapat manfaat mempersendakan Islam.namun hingga saat ini belum ada seorang pun yg bergelar “Syed” yg melakukan nya.
bayangkan anugerah pengiktirafan yg akan diterima oleh Dr ini seandai nya dia terus konsisten teguh mempersoalkan Syariat Islam…
orang ini memakai gelar “Syed” tapi mempropagandakan idea “Syait”-an.namun itu tidaklah menghilangkan sedikit pun rasa cinta-kasih kita kpd Ahlul-Bait yg tidak sah Sholat kita jika tidak berselawat kpd mereka.cuma kita perlu berhati-hati memilih…
Tun,ingin saya mengingatkan kita semua pada pesanan Amirul Mukminin Imam Ali Karamaullahu Wajhahu ketika berpesan kpd pengikut -pengikutnya tentang para peunding yg dihantar oleh Muawiyah bin Abu Sufyan..kata Imam Ali
“mereka itu dalam mempertahankan kesesatan nya jauh lebih keras daripada kekerasan kalian dalam membela kebenaran”.
kita bukan hanya dikelilingi oleh perikatan kafir yg hendak membolot bumi Malaysia-Nusantara yg telah kita sertu menjadi Islam ini,kita juga sebenar nya dikelilingi muawiyah-muawiyah kecil yg menjerit-jerit slogan “..kembali kpd Al Quran dan Sunnah”..tapi dgn niat kotor yg amat menjijikkan.perkataan yg benar di selindungi dgn maksud yg batil.
“it’s not idont loves Caesar,but i love Rome more”.kata-kata Brutus yg mengkhianati Maharaja nya dan Tun petik di Perhimpunan Agung Umno 1997.
ini lah sikap kebanyakkan pengkhianat Islam hari ini.berselindungkan “Kepentingan Agama,Bangsa dan Negara”,mereka menyerang asas-asas kepentingan Agama,Bangsa dan Negara itu sendiri.
izinkan saya menyahut cabaran Dr itu tentang bagaimana melaksanakan Syariat Islam di Malaysia.jawapan nya adalah dgn meniru LKY.ikut satu persatu apa yg dia lakukan di bumi kita Singapura.
1) bina persahabatan dgn Barat atas platfom mengimbangi peluasan pengaruh China sebagaimana dia membina hubungan dgn Israil dan Amerika atas dasar “permusuhan bersama terhadap Islam”.
2)secara berhemah dan tegas,kurangkan hingga habis pelibatan orang-orang asing dalam apa-apa juga pasukan berunifom dan agensi kerajaan sebalik nya bentuk sebuah kementerian pendatang-pendatang asing untuk memantau jumlah dan pengaruh mereka sebagaimana yg diterapkan oleh LKY terhadap Bumiputra Singapura,yg dikawal ketat oleh lapisan pertama iaitu Menteri yg bertanggungjawap bagi Ehwal Islam dan dasar-dasar diskriminasi oleh PAP,Pemerintah Singapura mahupun majoriti masyarakat pendatang Cina sendiri.
3)melipat-gandakan kemasukkan Umat Islam dari seluruh dunia untuk menjadi rakyat Malaysia sebagai mengimbangi peratusan majoriti Bumiputra-Islam sebagaimana yg dilakukan oleh LKY yg membawa masuk tidak kurang dari 3juta orang dari tanah besar nya.
4)dan yg terpenting,menjalin hubungan teknologi ketenteraan yg kukuh dgn Britain,Perancis,German,Russia,Jepun dan Amerika Syarikat untuk membangunkan Angkatan Bersenjata Malaysia yg hebat atas dasar membendung pengaruh komunis China.
5)sebelum semua itu tercapai,media-media yg dikuasai Kerajaan perlu memainkan peranan mendidik yg penting iaitu mendidik masyarakat betapa perlu nya Negara menghapuskan Rasuah.amalan ini bukan dari kita tapi diperkenalkan kpd pembesar-pembesar kita oleh orang-orang asing dan ini adalah sebesar-besar penyakit yg ditimpakan keatas kita.ia juga adalah punca hampir semua masalah yg kita hadapi hari ini.untuk menimbulkan kebencian mendalam terhadap rasuah,kreativiti media amat diperlukan.Pemimpin yg jujur dan pasukan Polis yg berwibawa dan media yg mendidik adalah kunci penting.
6)terapkan Hukum Syariah secara berperingkat.mulakan dgn Raja-raja Melayu,Kerabat mereka,Pemimpin-pemimpin Politik yg Muslim,termasuklah Menteri dan Ketua-ketua jabatan Kerajaan.
tapi yg terpenting dari semua ini adalah Pemimpin yg Berani,Bijak dan berwawasan jauh.sebagai orang Melayu,kita patuh pada Pemimpin sebagaimana kita patuh kpd Imam dalam sholat.kalau ada Pemimpin yg hebat,pasti kita tak akan berpecah belah seperti sekarang.Datuk Seri Najib boleh menandingi kehebatan Tun seandai nya dia Berani memecat sebahagian besar perasuah dan pengecut dari kabinet nya.
terimakasih Tun.
Salam,
Our problem is we are too focus to the PROBLEM…
Muslim this muslim that … we’ll never finished to figure out this life from our small brain …
Just do it and back to basics y all
I mean pray 5 times a day, fasting during ramadhan, pay zakat, do haj n umrah n do good deeds not bad
InsyAllah god will help us in keeping Islam for good in Malaysia
Salam,
What is the point of becoming a “developed country” when the leaders themselves are not developed or in other words matured. Imagine an 80+ year old ex-leader who holds such a grudge against his political opposition until today, more than 8 years after he’s stepped down from power but still wants to play with power. He keeps putting words in other peoples mouths. Words which were never in the first place mentioned or otherwise twisted by the MSM controlled by him when he was in power. In the end, everyone and everything else is wrong. He is always right. Now he’s even suggesting that Islam and/or its interpretation is wrong.
Islam is divine and timeless. No matter how you or anyone else interpretes it, it will prevail and remain relevant, till the end of time. As for you TDM, you are no longer relevant. Time to go…
Salam Sejahtera buat Ayahanda sekeluarga semoga diberkati Allah swt.
Dengan izin, ingin saya berkongsi sumber dari http://rasuldahri.tripod.com/articles/kka1_empat.htm
LAW OF SUSPICION ANOTHER OF ISLAM
Allah ‘ Azza wa-jalla banned the attitude of suspicion towards their fellow believers, because it will lead to the trial, not only among individuals with other individuals but also members of Jamaah Islamiyah. When there are damned attitude among members of the congregation can foster feelings of mutual distrust, mutual doubt, hate, hate, conflict, division and ultimately hostile between fellow Muslims.
Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala- believing servants banned from the store feeling of foreboding or a bad little expected against God and against his brothers in the religion. Indeed Allah has forbidden and all the elements, or all the sources of seeds that can evoke a sense of suspicion among Jamaah Islamiyah members. The ban has been emphasized in the Quran and the hadith of the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam as the word of God and the Prophet said:
يا ايها الذين آمنوا اجتنبوا كثيرا من الظن ان بعض الظن اثم ولا تجسسوا ولايغتب بعضكم بعضا ايحب احدكم ان ياكل لحم اخيه ميتا فكرهتموه واتقوا الله ان الله تواب رحيم
“O ye who believe! Avoid most of suspicion, but some of the prejudice is a sin, and do not look for faults of others and do some of you traduce another. Are you one of you eat the flesh of his brother who had dead? You certainly abhor this. And fear Allah. Indeed Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful. ” Al-Hujuraat, 49:12.
عن ابى هريرة قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم اياكم والظن فان الظن اكذب الحديث ولا تجسسوا ولا تحسسوا ولا تنافسوا ولا تحاسدوا ولا تباغضوا ولا تدابروا وكونوا عباد الله اخوانا
“From Abu Huraira said: The Prophet Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam: ‘I warn you from the prejudices that bias is indeed the most false whispers. Do not look for the secret (weakness, ke’aiban and evil brother), not feel- sense (nonsense), do not be arguments, do not berhasad (envious), do not berbenci-bencian, do not ignore (their religion). And you became a brother servant of Allah “. H / R al-Bukhari.
عن عبد الله بن عمر قال: رايت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يطوف بالكعبة يقول: والذى نفس محمد بيده لحرمة المؤمن اعظم عند الله منك ماله ودمه وان يظن به الا خيرا. رواه ابن ماجه.
“Abdullah bin ‘Umar said: I saw the Messenger sallallahu ‘alaihi wa-sallam bowed at the Temple and said: By the life of Muhammad in His hand, for a believer to a greater honor is with Allah from you (the Temple) and his blood money until he berprangsangka a good fellow. ” H / R Ibn Majah.
عن عمر بن الخطاب قال: ولا تظن بكلمة خرجت من اخيك المؤمن الا خيرا.
“From Umar bin Al-Khatab he said: Do not be prejudiced (bad) with the word that comes out of (oral) your brothers in the believer, except good. ” See Tafsir Ibn Kathir, vol. 4, m / s 271.
عن حارثة بن النعمان قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: ثلاث لازم لامتى: الطيرة والحسد وسوء الظن. فقال: وما يذهبهن يارسول الله ممن هن فيه? قال صلى الله عليه وسلم: اذا حسد فاستغفر الله واذا ظننت فلا تحقق واذا تطيرت فامض
“From an-Nu’man ibn Haritha said: The Prophet Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam: Three things always in my people: Trust unlucky. jealousy. Prejudice. He asked: What can rid of it (all) of the Messenger of Allah, for any which is already on her these things? He said: When slandering ask forgiveness, when prejudice not continue and when to believe tataiyur should be eliminated “. H / R at-Tabrani.
All sources of suspicion arose that described by the Quran and hadith on the base of the heart is damaged and diseased because of ignorance (not religious knowledge). the end result in weak faith, weak personality, loss of guidance and did not know the direction where to go so easily berburuk thought. Circumstances like this are explained by the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam :
قل اذا العلم ظهر الجفا واذا قلت الآثار كثرت الاهواء ولهذا تجد قوما كثيرين يحبون قوما ويبغضون قوما لاجل اهواء لايعرفون معناها دليلها ولا على بل يوالون اطلاقها يعادون او ان من غير عن تكون منقولة نقلا صحيحا النبى صلى عليه وسلم وسلف Allah, من غير ان هم يكونوا يعقلون معناها ولا يعرفون لازمها ومقتضاها. رواه مالك.
“When (a) less knowledgeable will (easily) give rise to hatred and false accusations (to others). And if the knowledge of the Athar (traditions and deeds of friends) that little will be many who follow their desires. Resulting from this, will You’ll find a community (group) that many love (side) people (groups) with each other on the basis of desires (not on leave Quran or al-Hadith) not knowing (knowledge) and his postulation. While they support or hostile (a group) without regard to (track) authentic hadith of the Prophet and the Salaf of this Ummah, they do not know the meaning of (Al-Quran and al-hadith) and do not know what is required (the hadith) and do not know for mempraktikalkannya “. H / R Malik.
Those who have the disease in doubt, doubt and suspicion towards God and terhaap worship, it should be promptly attended to immediately leave the disease and repent. Some of it does not recur, then it should be treated with religious knowledge, especially knowledge of the faith. Therefore, every Believers should menyebukkan himself with seeking knowledge, such as attending functions that deal with religious knowledge. For it is theology that can treat and cure anxiety, doubt and suspicion.
“Jazakallahu Khairan Kathira”
FisalMahadzir Al-Qedahi
“Barangsiapa yang menyeru/mengajak (orang lain) kepada petunjuk maka dia akan mendapatkan pahala seperti pahala-pahala dari orang-orang yang mengikutinya, yang hal itu tidak mengurangi pahala-pahala mereka sedikit pun, dan barangsiapa yang mengajak kepada kesesatan maka dia akan mendapat dosa seperti dosa-dosa dari orang-orang yang mengikutinya, yang hal itu tidak mengurangi dosa-dosa mereka sedikit pun.” (HR. Muslim no.2674)
Assalammualaikum wrt… Tun yang dihormati,
1. Katakanlah (wahai Muhammad): Wahai sekalian manusia! Sekiranya kamu menaruh syak tentang kebenaran agamaku, maka (ketahuilah) aku tidak menyembah makhluk-makhluk yang kamu menyembahnya yang lain dari Allah, tetapi aku hanya menyembah Allah yang akan mematikan kamu (untuk menerima balasan) dan aku diperintahkan supaya menjadi dari golongan yang beriman. (104)
2. Serta (diwajibkan kepadaku): Hadapkanlah seluruh dirimu menuju (ke arah mengerjakan perintah-perintah) agama dengan betul dan ikhlas dan janganlah engkau menjadi dari orang-orang musyrik. (105)
3. Dan janganlah engkau (wahai Muhammad) menyembah atau memuja yang lain dari Allah, yang tidak dapat mendatangkan manfaat kepadamu dan juga tidak dapat mendatangkan mudarat kepadamu. Oleh itu, sekiranya engkau mengerjakan yang demikian, maka pada saat itu menjadilah engkau dari orang-orang yang berlaku zalim (terhadap diri sendiri dengan perbuatan syirik itu). (106)
4. Dan jika Allah mengenakan engkau dengan sesuatu yang membahayakan, maka tiada sesiapa pun yang akan dapat menghapuskannya melainkan Dia dan jika Dia menghendaki engkau beroleh sesuatu kebaikan, maka tiada sesiapapun yang akan dapat menghalangi limpah kurniaNya. Allah melimpahkan kurniaNya itu kepada sesiapa yang dikendakiNya dari hamba-hambaNya dan Dialah Yang Maha Pengampun lagi Maha Mengasihani. (107)
5. Katakanlah (wahai Muhammad): Wahai sekalian manusia! Telah datang kepada kamu kebenaran (Al-Quran) dari Tuhan kamu. Oleh itu sesiapa yang mendapat hidayat petunjuk (beriman kepadanya), maka faedah hidayat petunjuk itu terpulang kepada dirinya sendiri dan sesiapa yang sesat (mengingkarinya) maka bahaya kesesatannya itu tertimpa ke atas dirinya sendiri dan aku pula bukanlah menjadi wakil yang menguruskan soal (iman atau keingkaran) kamu. (108)
6. Dan turutlah apa yang diwahyukan kepadamu serta bersabarlah (dalam perjuangan mengembangkan Islam) sehingga Allah menghukum (di antaramu dengan golongan yang ingkar dan memberi kepadamu kemenangan yang telah dijanjikan), kerana Dialah sebaik-baik Hakim. (109) (Terjemahan ayat surah Yunus ayat 104-109)
rgds
Ibnu Sulaiman
Jom solat fardu 5 waktu berjemaah di rumah Allah
Salam Tun,
Both Tun and Dr Alwi is right, in your own ways. Many other readers comments are also right.
1. I wish to shed another dimension to it. And that is that, Islam, as a religion, is not understood by many.
2. This is in part due to the immense power in its design, and the world bear witness of this through Islamic contributions in early Sciences.
3. This immense power is also to be found in its enormous simplicity, so very simple that it almost seems impossible. And the world bear witness to this too, in the decline of Islam, due to the difficulty in understanding the true or original Islam, and hence misinterpretations.
4. The genuis of Islam is that this decline was already prophesized. And counter measures already built into the system ( Islam ), for it to rebound, revived or resurrected if you like. Of course, there is much work to be done. For every bird god may have made a worm, but god does not put it in the bird’s nest. Thus, even birds need to work.
5. So dear readers, of either side, pro or anti-islam, pro or anti government, i ask that you not be alarmed, nor be sad. Islam was designed as a system of governance so perfect that i think if there is to be a system that can replace it, it may perhaps not be for us humans, and more suited to aliens from another planet.
6. A complete and thorough understanding in Islam is required to use Islam to govern a country. A captain must know every aspect of his starship. This is important, for if we are to build another civilisation in another planet, i would again recomend Islam. In other words, what i am saying is, Islam ( the original version ) is universally applicable and time independent, as like any other laws of god, such as gravity and relativity.
7. Dr Syed Alwi, i hope this brings good news to you, with regards to Science, Islam ( Human Science ) and Technology.
8. Finally, in my humble opinion, Islam being universal and time independent, makes it a law of god or a law of nature if you are atheist. For as long as there is a human race, Islam will be relevant, unlike UMNO.
9. I feel sometimes, it is good if we think of ourselves simply as clever monkeys trying to fix something that dropped ( or was sent ) from the sky. I assure readers, especially the science based readers, it does wonders to deflate the ego
Thank you kindly Tun.
Salam YAB Tun,
Pertama sekali saya ini bukanlah bijak pandai seperti YAB Tun atau YAB Dr Syed Alwi Ahmad…
Saya bersetuju dengan kenyataan YAB Dr Syed Alwi Ahmad ttg hukum hudud. Tetapi kita patut bertanya pada diri kita sendiri, bersediakah kita untuk hukum hudud yang sebenar. Saya risau hukum hudud yang akan kita bangunkan bukanlah hukum hudud yang sebenar, tetapi sekali lagi hukum hudud yang salah diinpretasikan. Saya tahu banyak alim ulama di bumi kita, bumi Malaysia ini, tetapi alim ulama sebenar yang menegakkan nas-nas Islam, yang tidak POLITICAL DRIVEN tidak banyak.
InsyaAllah saya yakin kalau kita dapat kenalpasti alim ulama yang bukan POLITICAL DRIVEN, InsyaAllah kita akan menjadi satu umat yang maju. Lillahi Taalla semata-mata.
Orang Melayu kita memang senang dipengaruhi. Itu masalahnya. Ajaran Islam adalah satu ajaran yang lengkap untuk manusia, sepanjang zaman. Masalah yang timbul, seperti mana yang telah YAB Tun katakan, salah faham. SALAH FAHAM inilah yang menyusahkan kita sebenarnya. InsyaAllah, kalau kita kembali pada Al-Quran dan Sunnah, kita tidak akan sesat. Tapi sekali lagi masalah yang timbul ada sesetengah pihak menyalahgunakan sesetengah tafsir untuk justifikasi perkara yang salah dan mengelirukan. Itu yang terjadi sekarang. Sedih…
Kesimpulannya
Islam Drive Politics, not the Politics Drive Islam
Islam Drive Economy, not the Economy Drive Islam
Islam Drive Social, not the Social Drive Islam
Allah Maha Mengetahui segalanya dan Kepada Allah kita berserah,….
Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir bin Mohamad yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
1. Syed alwi bin ahmad menyalahkan Islam?……..kesiannya dia.
2. Syed alwi bin ahmad : Bertaubatlah dan insaflah jgn lagi ikut PAS yang menyesatkan.
3. Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir tu…. seorang BIJAKSANA, BESTARI ikhlas berbicara, menyedarkan, memimpin, menginsafkan, memahamkan, bnyk lagi lah perkara baik-baik.
Takbir!!………Allahu Akbar
Assalamu’alaikum wr wb,
Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
1. Menodai kesucian rumah Allah (masjid) dgn caci cerca, memfitnah, berbohong.
2. Menjadikan bulan Ramadhan sebagai bulan jihad menentang orang Islam yg tidak menyokong mereka
3. Mendoa laknat sesama Islam
Itulah ajaran PAS yang kononnya Islam? sehingga sudah melahirkan murid2 ada yg telah begelar Dr(?) yg kuat berdengki, gedebe, berdendam, berbohong, memfitnah, memecahbelahkan umat Islam.
Wahai Nik Aziz kembalikan kepangkuan UMNO parti kamu yang asal semoga kamu selamat dunia dan akhirat.
Tun,
Harap Tun boleh komen dan buat entry mengenai pembunuhan di Norway, kaitan dengan Islam, terrorist etc. Biar mat saleh tadi jilat ludah mereka sendiri. Terima kasih
Salam Tun
Izinkan saya rujuk kepada Tuan Dr Syed Alwi yang telah komen seperti berikut
“”Assalamualaikum wr wb,
Dear Tun Mahathir, UMNO & my Malaysian Friends,
I write today to answer the question of why Muslim countries have many political problems.
The answer lies in the nature of Islam itself. As a religion, Islam comes along with many many Syariah Rules based on the Quran and Hadith. But the truth is that the context of society has changed much over the past 1000 years. In fact – today – no one really knows how a Muslim Government is supposed to implement Islam. How should a Muslim Government implement Islam in this 21st century world ? I don’t know and neither does anyone else !
If you look at Christianity and Buddhism for example – they do NOT have so many Syariah Rules. Without such constraints – it is most definitely easier to govern Christian-majority and Buddhist-majority countries. They have no Halal-Haram. There is no requirement for Syariah rules for them !
The question of the Islamic State is the curse of Muslim countries. What constitutes an Islamic State ? And how do you get there ? Is the kind of Islamic State envisioned by PAS – possible to achieve via the Constitutional Democratic process in a Malaysia with 40% Non-Muslim population ? Or is UMNO’s Islam sufficient ?
You see – it is the nature of Islam itself which makes governing a Muslim country in the 21st century difficult. In truth – no one really knows how to implement Islam in the modern world.
Wassalam
Dr Syed Alwi Bin Ahmad (Alsree)”"
Tuan Dr Syed, tuan mengatakan ‘But the truth is that the context of society has changed over the past 1000 years”. Anda cuba mengatakan islam ketinggalan zaman dan tidak relevan di abad 21. Anda telah menhina islam. Anda tidak mengaku islam ialah agama akhir zaman. Sebenarnya Islam is the final testament.
Tuan mengatakan Christianity and Buddhism have no haram halal rule. islamic state is a curse. Tuan Syed sudah melampau.. Zina, riba, minum arak, makanan tak sembelih cara islam, mendedah aurat dikatakan menyusahkan. Jadi Tuan Syed ambil saja consep trinity atau Buddha supaya boleh berzina bebas, liwat, minum arak sampai mabuk lintang pukang. tak payah solat, tak payah berpuasa bulan Ramathan.
Tuan Syed, agama islam ialah agama wahyu bukan boleh dipersoalkan. Kenapa tidak boleh makan babi? ini wahyu yang termaktub dalam kitab suci Al Quran. Kalau babi itu dimandikan 3 kali sehari, diberi minum susu dan makanan bersih sekali pun, ianya tetap babi dan haram dimakan.
Begitu juga solat 5 kali sehari walau pun ia menyusahkan Tuan Syed.
Adanya orang seperti Tuan Syedlah menjadi islam mundur sebab melakukan kemungkaran, iaitu melakukan apa yang ditegah oleh islam.
Mengucaplah Tuan Dr Syed. Amal maarof, nahi mungkar, kata Quran. InsyaAllah islam akan berjaya. Demi masa manusia akan kerugian melainkan mereka berpegang kepada yang haq(islam) dan bersabar sampai ke akhir hayat(yauma kiamah)
amin tan
A’kum Tun,
Please allow me to answer some personal attack from our friend, Wajaperak.
Dear brother,
I am a believer who believe in God, Day of Judgment, Rasul&Prophets, Kitab, and Qadad&Qadar. I also do Contact Prayers, Fasting, read the right syahadah which is “There is no God except Allah”, give zakat and InsyAllah when I am given the chance, I will do Haj during my lifetime.
But you call me names and mocked me just because I do not believe in Hadith? What is wrong with me not believing in Hadith? Is there any Hadith during the time of Prophet Muhammad? What did he bring to you and me and the whole world? Quran or Hadith? What do you think Muhammad would say when he goes around doing his work in preaching Islam to the people of Medina and Mecca? Do you think he would say his own name in the Syahadah? Or perhaps just “La Ella Ha Ella Allah” which means “There is no God except Allah”.
The reason of me saying this is because I cant find any other syahadah other than this one. And if you read the whole Koran, you cannot find any ayat that shows any prophets go around saying their names in the syahadah during their time of preaching Islam. Moses, Harun, Jesus, Noah, Yusuf and even Muhammad.
Let me share with you the syahadah that was mentioned in the Koran.
If you have any other meaning please show us here.
Surah Al Imran verse 18.
[3:18] God bears witness that there is no God except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute God; there is no God but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.
So please correct me if I am wrong for the above verse.
Let me share with you another one:
Chapter 54, verse 17:
[54:17] We made the Quran easy to learn. Does any of you wish to learn?
But most people including you brother Wajaperak insist on saying Quran is very hard to learn. But God said otherwise. So tell me now, should I follow you and your ignorant thoughts about Quran or should I follow the order of Allah who says that He made the Quran easy to learn?
And I wish to learn. And I hope many more will learn the Koran in the near future because that is the only source of law and divine scripture that was given to Muhammad. Hadith was never been sent by Allah, Hadith was written by the Sahabats or someone who claim to know Muhammad. Hadith was only written down 200 years after Prophet Muhammad died. How can you confirm all the Hadiths are true and authentic? Can you confirm all that? But what is confirm is the Koran is from Allah.
But what is so funny is that most people even the scholars of Islam said that we need Hadith to explain the Koran. Are you saying that the scholars are better than God now? Are you saying that all the ayat in the Koran is not perfect? Are you saying that Allah is short of words and He needs the help of the scholars to explain the Koran to the people of the world? If you think so, then its between you and God.God will deal with you. But for me, I believe in the word of Allah in the Koran. I do not need Hadith to explain anything.
Let me share with you some articles about hadith. Just read and feel free to comment on it.
Some say we need the Hadith to explain the Quran because the Quran is too difficult to understand. Why do people who find it difficult to understand a single volume of God’s revelation feel it necessary to refer to 50 volumes of Hadith books for clarification! Would God reveal a message so difficult to understand, yet expect people to follow it? This does not make sense. Furthermore, God tells us in the Quran many times: “we made the Quran easy to learn, does any of you wish to learn?” (54:17, 22, 32, 40) Doesn’t God know what He is talking about? Doesn’t He know His creatures’ abilities?
It is almost impossible for anyone to go through all the books of Hadith without getting confused and totally lost, especially if the person wants to examine what each different sect has to offer. That’s why the so-called Islamic universities offer academic degrees in studying Hadith to raise “learned men” of the religion. These students literally waste their time to learn all the details of living their lives in accordance with the supposed sayings and deeds of the prophet.
The religious rules and regulations based on such innovations contain and cover literally every aspect of life from walking, eating, laughing, sleeping?almost anything one can think of. The rules such as how to use the bathroom and what to do in there! The details are too gross and shocking to mention.
There are even grosser sayings and deeds attributed to the prophet regarding his sex life, preferences and sexual de-sires. Didn’t these so called narrators have anything else to do but peek in the Prophet’s private life? How could such perverse narrators be considered reliable sources of information? These are the type of people who produced such blasphemous and incredible lies against a prophet of God! More incredible is the hypocrisy of the religious “experts” who supposedly follow these lies out of love and respect for the prophet!
There are also many silly things in the books of Hadith such as whether one should drink a glass of water standing or sitting? Why should anyone care? Why are these kinds of irrelevant details important to some people? Because these people are completely ignorant about the essence of the religion of submission, and thus they think the religion is a bunch of rules and regulations on the petty details of life. They make the religion difficult for themselves while being proud of having difficulties and misery as part of their devotion to their “religion.” Which religion or God are they devoting themselves to? It cannot be the same One who clearly stated in the Quran that He made the religion easy for us, that He did not reveal the Quran to make things difficult for us (20:2).
Indeed, the Hadith books are full of contradictions, subtle or clear insults and blasphemies to Almighty God as well as the prophet himself. What kind of a messenger would Muhammad be if he did or said some of the things that were attributed to him? Muhammad lived by the Quran and he was an example for us. Anyone who followed the Quran which came through his mouth would not utter such blasphemous or ridiculous sayings. Such sayings, of course, cannot be but plain lies and conjecture. Would Muhammad ever blaspheme against God saying that God created the heavens and the earth for his sake, and that God’s throne was made up of his light? Would the prophet ever ask people to praise himself, instead of praising God, the Almighty, when the Quran clearly says that all praises belong to God? Never, ever. This is clearly stated in the following verse:
Never would a human being whom God blessed with the scripture and prophethood say to the people, “Idolize me beside God.” Instead, (he would say), “Devote yourselves absolutely to your Lord alone,” according to the scripture you preach and the teachings you learn. [3:79]
If God wanted to be more specific about how we must live our lives, He could have sent down volumes and volumes of revelations on how we should sleep, how we should cook, eat or drink, and which dress we should wear and so on. He surely tells us that if the oceans were ink, and the trees were made into pens, He would not run out of words (31:27). But it is God’s mercy that He wants us to follow only what He specified in His revelations, and use our common sense, knowledge and wisdom for the rest of the details of life. However people insist on making their lives miserable as their so-called religious leaders and “learned” scholars shackle them with satanic teachings and innovations.
God condemns the Hadith by name in the Quran, and informs us that it is a blasphemous fabrication (45:6-7). He says that the Quran is one consistent source since it’s His Word. There is no contradiction in it. If it were from other than God, as Hadith books are, they would have found in it numerous contradictions (4:82).
Hadiths can be useful for historical perspective, but they should not be used for establishing religious practices. Doing so does not mean one dislikes or does not obey the prophet Muhammad. On the contrary, it indicates that he or she respects him and God’s revelations that came through his mouth. After all it is God we are all supposed to please. The Quran teaches us that when the judgment day comes and everything is brought forward, the prophet will be disappointed by what has been done to the message that he delivered. He will say, “my people have deserted the Quran” (25:30). Therefore, following or upholding baseless hadiths is something neither God nor His messengers want us to do:
Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith, and thus divert others from the path of God without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.[31:6]
As a matter of fact, God and His messengers want us to follow the Word of God as the only source of religious guidance, otherwise we will end up disputing and dividing ourselves (3:103). The Quran is God’s word in truth and justice; a blessing and beacon for those who want to submit to the Lord of the Universe, the Almighty. It’s God’s commandment that we should read it from cover to cover (73:4). Are we waiting for somebody to explain God’s message to us while we can read it for ourselves? Therefore, read what your Creator wants to tell you for your own sake! Read it in a language that you can understand. When God says that He made the Quran easy to learn, He means it. He is the One who controls the hearts and minds of the people and guides them accordingly (28:56). He is teacher of the Quran for those who turn to Him (55:2).
God has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent, and points out both ways (to Heaven and Hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for God’s message. Such is God’s guidance; He bestows it upon whoever wills (to be guided). As for those sent astray by God, nothing can guide them. [39:23]
Why do they not study the Quran carefully? If it were from other than God, they would have found in it numerous contradictions. [4:82]
All praises be to God, Lord of the Universe.
To brother Wajaperak, please answer and debate like a man. Do not call people names and mock them just because they dont believe the way you believe. God’s Heaven is not easy to achieve brother. We all should strive to our best to achieve it. Everyday during our life, we have Satan who will whisper and disturb us to divert us from the straight path. We have to consistently believing in God and steadfastly practicing it. You may say whatever you like about me not believing in Hadith. I simply not believing in Hadith not because of anyone else, but because there is contradiction between the the 2 books. And I believe that Muhammad never authorized his friends to write anything about his sayings and doings, because he knew that the message he brought was the Koran only. Nothing else.
Thank you Tun, and I hope that you comment also regarding this. If you think I am crazy Tun, you can delete me from your blog to complement the demand from Wajaperak who says I am the enemy of Islam.
Look at yourself in the mirror Wajaperak. Who are you to condemn others? Are you a Saint? You yourself busy defending Hadith and I am defending Koran. Who is on the right path now? People who believe Hadith or people who believe the Koran? There is only one path brother, not 2.
May God bless us all
Dear Tun,
On the topic of people using Islam for their own purpose.
I would like to add that, people using Islam for their own purpose is not bad in itself. But the purpose, most times will be for a good purpose as they see it.
The problem is when their intended purpose is NOT the best there is for the country, people, the situation, environment and timing to achieve a good outcome for the people. As we must remember that governing has everything to do with maintaining our relationship with fellow humans. So the wellbeing of those being governed is paramount. That the goverment do not oppress (zalim) and bring hardship to the people.
Is BN being oppressive with the DEB? Most Bumis will say No. Most Chinese and Indian will sa YES.
This issue MUST be openly Debated in a honest and no emotional way to get the matter into the open and not allowing baseless accusations to fly all over the place. Getting people unnecessarily worked up and think false thoughts.
At the end of the day it must be made clear that waht is done is for the LONG TERM COMMON GOOD OF ALL MALAYSIANS and Malaysia.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
5. The killings that happened in Oslo have left Norway in a shock as many innocent souls were lost. My deepest sympathy towards those affected by the calamity.
6. Whoever, whenever and whatever the reason is, no atrocities should be condoned. And Islam never condones such acts.
7. I would not lie that as the news reaching out to the public; I was hoping “Please, let it be not another al-Qaeda attacks, and please don’t relate Islam to this tragedy” as there is already enough hatred towards muslims in the western world. Sadly, responses from the so called security pundits and media in the western world have baselessly blaming Islam immediately after the word killing and bombing reached their ears. As piece by piece of the evidence unfolds, the investigation reveals a different story. The evidences showed that the attacks were carried out by a home grown right wing terrorist. Nevertheless, there are still many people who try to twist the facts so that they can somehow blame it on muslims. This twisted thought is promoted by no other but the islamophobics. They just blame Islam for what ever bad happening to them.
8. Seems like your post is right on time. When we start to say that there is something wrong with Islam and we need to change it, we are closer and closer in agreeing with them. We have been influenced with the mentality and the culture of blaming Islam instead of addressing the real problems.
9. Different but similarly in our case, the act of blaming Islam and saying that there is something wrong with Islam rather than saying that the problem lies in the government and the people involved in the issue shows how far we’ve gone towards becoming them. It is not Islam that needs to change; instead, it is us that need to learn, understand and practice what Islam really is. In our case, paraphrasing a question, ‘blame the perfectly working car or the inexperienced driver?’
10. Maybe the pressure of the world media and the wanting to be accepted by the secular and capitalistic world have led us think that it is a must for us to change our belief. A change that will break something that is not broken for a broken world.
11. There are two separate problems here, first, the wrong interpretation of Islam, and second, the underperformed government and the people. We need to address them properly.
12. Dr SA meant well when he wants Malaysian muslims to change. Maybe his perspective is in contrast to what we understood and believe we are. I guess it is up to us to take the perspective positively or negatively. To the least, viewing from outside of the box, he has point out that there is something not right in our system that needs to be improved.
13. To a muslim, Islam is the perfect way of life which is perfected by Allah. I believe we do realise that we have not understand Islam properly. While we are searching for the true interpretation of Islam and trying to solve our problems, we should be cautious not be swayed away by the ill thoughts of islamophobics.
Thanks tun.
Dear Tun,
This topic is very interesting and we get to read so many divergent views on this subject matter. It is good and it should be that way.
That we have so many divergent views. All these views and believes, including to Dr. Syed’s as well, are TRUE as THEY SEE IT.
Islam has no qualms about that (this is just my believe). The fundamentals of The Islamic teaching is that it is a guidence for us. We can choose to live it anyway we want, but be mindful of the guidences given to us in the Al Quran and Hadith sahih.
Fundamentally, we as human in this living world need to take care of three things;
1) Our relationship with God (Allah),
2) Our relationship with other humans,
3) Our relationship with our natural enviroment, i.e. other living and non living beings, known and unknown to us.
And in all this relationships the paradigm is of anti-Zalim (as in anti- oppression).
Whether the kezaliman (being oppressed) is oneself or others. We will be oppressing ourselves when we do not take care of our relationship with God. Allah has mentioned this many times in the Al Quran. The way to ensuring this relationship has been spelled out clearly in the Al Quran and Hadith Sahih. Like how to do the solat, how to fast, how to give alms, etc…
On the matter of our relationship with other humans, it is entirely up to us ( as long as we do not opress). I believe there is a Sahih Hadith which roughly says, “..that leave matters of the world to its experts.”
So it be said that we can interprete this aspect of Islam to any way that suits the country, the situation, the people, the timing, etc… BUT WE MUST NOT go to far off track as to the guidence in the Al Quran and Hadith Sahih.
Islamic goverments in the past had its ups and now downs. But we can be on our way up again as long as we do not fall into the defeatist and apologist mindset.
As for PAS, its time that PAS admits openly that they are like any other political party vying for the chance to govern Malaysia. Similar to UMNO, DAP, MIC, MCA, PKR and the like. PAS going with DAP and PKR proves this beyond a reasonable doubt!
That they are vying to govern (originally) according to their interpretation of Islamic governance. Not Islam per se!!!
Let them campaign and do what they like to get the support they are fighting for. But at the end of the day its the RAKYAAT who will decide if they want to be govern the way PAS wants to.
It can’t be denied that PAS had made in roads with they young minds when they indoctrinate these young minds in their Islamic madrasahs and Mahads. But they are few and will become PAS hardcore supporters.
There is still the vast majority of sensible and reasonable voters who can decide how they want to be governed.
What are the options for Malaysians, BN or PR. There is no Muammar, no Mubarak, no Abu Bakar Al Sidiq, no Ottoman, just BN or PR.
Lets be rational and realistic and yet have a dream of a better future. We can jump into the virgin forest (PR) to get to our dream, but along the way get eaten by the beast. Or we can use the proven trail (BN) to our dream..the trail may be longer and slippery but it is safer.
The problem is not ISLAM Dr. Syed. The problem is the people who use ISLAM for they own purpose.
For all the TRUTHs that each and everyone of us see, differently….There is only one TRUTH and it is with God (Allah). Maintain your realtionship with Allah and then maybe God will share the real truth with you.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
[[parameswara 2]]
[[1-I doubt if these sort of debates could change anything.Just the threesome of Wajaperak , Dr Alwi and Abdul Aziz Omar cannot reconcile amongst themselves.And yet all of them are practically more leaning towards your philosophy, so can you imagine what would happen if we bring in the Muslims from the anti Tun side?]]
Solution..solution..An offer to the solution is the methodology of approach..or approaches…
So..what we have here?
Disputes..
Like Iblis dares disputing Allah utmost wisdom in choosing Adam over him with his kind of logic..
“Kami di jadikan dari api…tentulah kami lebih mulia dari Adam yang di jadikan dari tanah”..
That sick logic is not what made Iblis becomes heretic..
This act is…
“Dan kami perintahkan mereka sujud kepada Adam..tapi Iblis enggan..Jadilah dia orang yang kafir..”
Why the present tense?
Because Iblis is still salvageable if he repents now..Alas..
Therefore the solution of all the problem is in the discussion.
We discuss all our disputes and makes concessions.
The bone of my contention is education.
Have you properly learns Islam the way Allah wants us to be educated?
Or you finds Ilmu Tajwid troublesome that you refuse to master them first before reading and reciting AL Quran??
Qoute Saidina Ali a.s “Belajar tajwid itu fardu kifayah sahaja”..
Tetapi mengamalkannya Fardu Ain!!”
So..here we are..
The self appointed intellects who binds by the worldly laws,rules and regulations.Who produce certificates to gain employments in their respective worldly fields..Who demands and recognizes only specifics of that disciplines..But chose to ignore that Islam have their utmost strict laws,rules and regulations..
Thus..
We compromise..You learns Islam the way the convention demand and we have mutual thing’s to discuss.And no..No debates..We are here not to overcomes each other ideas..rather complementing them for the betterment of oneself..
But this is so not going to happen if we have no common rules or grounds..
We must agrees to the basic of Islamic convention that is education.Education gives you knowledges..
The basic of Islamic education is “Awalttuddin Makrifatullah”..
So..
Shall we agrees to this??
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..
Tun dan saudara/saudari pembaca,
Orang Islam susah nak berjaya macam orang kafir bukan kerana kelemahan Islam. Hakikatnya, kelemahan datang daripada keyakinan orang Islam itu sendiri untuk berpegang teguh pada janji Allah yakni; Al-Quran dan As-Sunnah.
Orang-orang kafir tidak terikat dengan mana-mana hukum-hukum Allah, tambahan pula mereka tidak ada konsep ‘halal’ dan ‘haram’ yang nyata. Janganlah kita orang mukmin beranggapan ini adalah satu ‘kelebihan’ untuk orang kafir. Malah ini adalah satu ujian besar buat diri orang-orang beriman.
Masalah orang Islam sedunia (termasuk orang Islam di Malaysia), apabila duniawi itu memasuki hati, kemudian mempengaruhi cara kita berfikir dan timbul rasa ‘iri hati’ dengan orang-orang kafir maka timbul persoalan; “apakah rahsia kejayaan mereka?”. Sekaligus kita terus mengikuti langkah-langkah mereka tanpa menghiraukan halal dan haram, maka kita telah terjatuh dalam tipu daya (fitnah) Dajjal dan syaitan (demi ganjaran dunia yang sedikit).
Sekiranya kenyataan saya ini salah, cuba tuan/puan tanya diri sendiri, yakinkah kalian bahawa solat sunat 2 rakaat boleh selesaikan segala masalah dunia? Kenapa tidak yakin? Malah ada yang bersolat lagi banyak dari itu? Ini semua permasalahan iman dan amal.
Perlu difahami, masalah bukan sahaja terletak pada kerajaan, tetapi sebenarnya masalah itu terletak dalam permasalahan ‘iman’ dan ‘amal’ setiap individu Islam khususnya di Malaysia ini (dan sedunia).
Walaupun ditakdirkan suatu hari nanti (dengan izin Allah S.W.T.) UMNO dan PAS bersatu membentuk kerajaan Islam dan melaksanakan hudud dan syariah, tetapi rakyat Islam itu sendiri rata-rata tidak bersedia dan tidak mahu menerima hukum-hukum Allah (lantaran permasalah iman dan amal mereka) maka kerajaan itu sendiri akan runtuh juga. Contoh terbaik adalah kerajaan Islam Taliban Afghanistan yang cuma mampu berdiri selama 6 tahun sebelum bala berbentuk ‘Amerika dan sekutu’ datang membawa kemusnahan. Rupa-rupanya, kejayaan tentera Amerika dan sekutu terjamin kerana majoriti rakyat Afghanistan sendiri telah menolak Taliban.
“There is no shortcut to success”. This is a universal law. Perlunya ada usaha ‘iman’ dan ‘amal’ terlebih dahulu, sebagai langkah pertama untuk mengembalikan cahaya Islam didunia ini. Apabila majoriti orang-orang Islam diberi kefahaman (hidayat oleh Allah S.W.T. lantaran adanya usaha dakwah), maka dengan sendirinya hukum-hukum Allah itu akan dilaksanakan with/without government consent.
The leader’s commitment to the spirit of truth determines the quality of governance, whether Muslim, Christian or communist. Local practice, customs and and relative isolation form corruption may have an influence but the momentum is difficult to maintain in a world which is predominantly corrupt and run by the spirit of the flesh rather than the spirit of the truth. The more our conception of truth incorporates eternal questions and concerns, the more robust our governance, and results.
The gap between rhetoric and reality seems to be at least as big a problem as inequity and ecology.
Assalammualaikum wrt… Dearest Tun,
Attention to Assabiah group:-
1. Say to (them): “If the home of the Hereafter with Allâh is indeed for you specially and not for others, of mankind, then long for death if you are truthful.” (94)
2. But they will never long for it because of what their hands have sent before them (i.e. what they have done). And Allâh is All-Aware of the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers) (95)
3. And verily, you will find them (the Jews) the greediest of mankind for life and (even greedier) than those who ascribe partners to Allâh (and do not believe in Resurrection – Majus, pagans, and idolaters). Everyone of them wishes that he could be given a life of a thousand years. But the grant of such life will not save him even a little from (due) punishment. And Allâh is All-Seer of what they do. (96) (Translation from Al-Baqara : 94-96)
rgds
Ibnu Sulaiman
Jom solat fardu 5 waktu berjemaah di rumah Allah
Good morning Tun,
302. Dr Syed is right, but he is a bit harsh and commanding mca sikap Khairy Jamaluddin at least to me as Malaysian.
303. The Power of Authority in Interpreting and implementing religion policies, contohnya Islam, in Republic Singapore is her Istana today.
304. The Power of Authority in Interpreting and implementing Islam and other religion policies in Malaysia is our Istana Negara, KLFT.
305. The Power of Authority in Interpreting and implementing of Islam and other religion policies in Malay States are her Istana negeri2.
306. In Singapore, President Istana determines the direction of Agama and Foreign Diplomacy, not the Prime Minister.
307. In Malaysia, Agong determines the direction of Agama and Foreign Diplomacy, not the Prime Minister.
308. I have to agree with brother ekompute that Islam mengharamkan ketuanan bangsa (including ketuanan agama too) sewaktu mengatakan bahawa orang Arab tidak lebih tinggi darjatnya berbanding orang bukan Arab dan sebagainya, tetapi UMNO memperjuangkan Ketuanan Melayu. Adakah orang-orang di dalam ini kelihatan seperti orang yang beragama? Langsung tidak! Lihatnya lebih pada samseng. Nampaknya tidak banyak umat Islam Malaysia yang akan tiba di syurga kerana diperdaya oleh pemimpin-pemimpin sendiri for the past 53 years.
309. Yes, not only the world is watching, Malaysians are watching too.
310. The longer PM delays GE13, he is allowing more time for his enemy to do badmouthing ceramah here and there.
311. If his enemy is opponent, the debates will be on policies interpretation and implementation of policies and lawmaking issues.
312. Whoever wins, rakyat will accept.
313. Whoever wins, will our Agong accept, we will see.
Good day Tun.
Salam Tun Det,
“5. Their teachings are intended to validate their own deeds and purpose, many of which are political”.
Perkara ini bukan hanya berlaku dalam ajaran Arqam dan Ayah pin sahaja. Tapi jugak kepada kunun2 ulamak2 dari pihak kerajaan dan pembangkang. Mereka mencari jalan yg senang dengan hanya mendapatkan sepotong ayat dari Al-Quran atau Hadith lalu diterjemahkan ayat itu “just to validate their own deeds and purpose, many of which are mostly political”. Mereka malas terjemahkan atau selesaikan satu2 isu itu dengan mengkaji Al-Quran dengan secara menyeluruh apatah lagi mempraktikkan apa yg diajar dalam Al-Quran itu. Itulah kegagalan mereka terutama apabila meluluskan sesuatu fatwa kemudian dibawa ke pihak pemerintah untuk dikuatkuasakan. Walaupun ulamak itu dikatakan waris kepada anbia / nabi / rasul, namun mereka ini dilantik oleh kerajaan berdasarkan kelulusan mereka sahaja. Menjadi seorang al-hafiz jugak tidak bermakna mereka itu pakar dalam bidang agama.
Apa yang berlaku dinegara kita sekarang adalah para pemimpin telah ingkar dan tidak mempraktikkan ajaran Agama Islam seperti yang tertulis dalam Al-Quran dan ajaran dari Nabi Muhammad S.A.W. Ada ulamak yg tidak dikenali menyatakan KAFIR itu maknanya INGKAR. Memang betul lah apa yg Tun Det sebut dulu2 lagi “MELAYU mudah lupa”. Lupa dalam pelbagai perkara termasuk ajaran Agama Islam.
Untuk menjadikan Malaysia sebuah negara yg makmur, para pemimpin serta kuncunya perlu kembali kepada ajaran Agama Islam yg sebenarnya. Walau macamana pun kita terjemahkan Al-Quran, semuanya membawa kepada ajaran kepada kebaikan sekiranya kita mengkaji Al-Quran secara menyeluruh.
Dearest Tun
1-I doubt if these sort of debates could change anything.Just the threesome of Wajaperak , Dr Alwi and Abdul Aziz Omar cannot reconcile amongst themselves.And yet all of them are practically more leaning towards your philosophy, so can you imagine what would happen if we bring in the Muslims from the anti Tun side?
2-The confusion of Muslims on the understanding of Islam has become so serious that the more we try to unite their thinking through the reinterpretation of Islam the more they would be divided.Guess the ulamaks had done a great job at this.With more encouragement ,they could start killing each other as everyone of them attempt to save their understanding of Islam.Those who disagree with them would obviously be labelled heretics.So sometimes I think it is better to just keep whatever we think in our heart and just sue for peace.These debates would only worsen relationship amongst Muslims if we were to conduct it openly.
3-That is why I think we must learn from Europe how it managed to remove the Church from interfering in the affairs of the state knowing that the Christians were just as fanatical about the teachings of their ulamaks just as the Muslims today.Europe got out of its Dark ages after sacking the Church while the Muslims did just the opposite,they appointed their ulamaks to help them enter the Dark Ages.
4-Only the emergence of a strong political Muslim leadership respected by all the Muslim countries and who would dare challenge the domineering ulamaks could hope to do that job.He must be a someone who must be ready to be branded anti Islam and be martyred.A situation and a person like that could only appear with God’s help and intervention.There would be no other way.
6-So if Islam is indeed the truth from Allah SWT there is no reason to doubt if Allah would help.Its just a matter of time.So this is the time to be testing our faith in God and His promises.So,let us all Muslims devote our time to seek help from God to help and guide us out of this terrible mess we are in.I have a feeling that help is really on the way.It may be just around the corner.
8-Whether we are on this side or that side,we Muslim are all brothers.Lets not our political differences turn us into enemies for that will surely be an unislamic thing to do no matter what the leaders may justify.Let us all be peaceful and taqwa people who are deserving of Allah’s mercy and compassion.
Thanks Tun.
YABhg Tun
If it is true that Dr Syed Alwi is a physicist and a Singaporean, then we can be forgiven for thinking that his opinion is just to reincarnate Lee Kuan Yew’s views. LKY in January 2011 launched a book that also launched an attack on Islam as “prohibiting the full integration of Singaporean muslims into mainstream Chinese buddhist/christian society”. How else can we explain away the uncanny similarity between Syed Alwi’s “Islam is obsolete, needs to be re-interpreted to suit modern times” to LKY’s “muslims must not take their religious practices too seriously if they want to progress”
Indeed, as Tun had pointed out, Syed Alwi is dead wrong to accuse Islam as being responsible for the weaknesses and backwardness observed in countries with muslim majority population. Like LKY, Syed Alwi was wrong for wishing the so-called progress of non-muslims and non-muslim countries, and then to ascribe those attributes to the muslims. “Lain padang” will obviously have ‘lain belalang”
While LKY may be ignorant of ALlah’s greatest exhortation to HIS believers to be HIS ‘khalifah’ on earth, Syed ALwi should not. But from his rapid fire responses on Che Det, it suggest he has only made a cursory, shallow and knee jerk efforts on a subject matter as important as the the Islamic aqidah itself.
As Allah’s khalifah on earth, the Islamic clarion call is both clear and timeless. If Syed Alwi is under the impression that Islam demands that one must be a reincarnate of Omar Al-khatab to be a mayor of P. Jaya or Putra Jaya, then he is both ignorant and perhaps an LKY accessory.
To be a Allah’s khalifah on earth, one must be a good leader to oneself first. This means steadfastly observing the rukun Islam. One is rewarded with pahala for doing one’s fardhu ain. Is there any ambiguity here?
To be Allah’s khalifah on earth, one must also be a good leader to one’s family. community, country and ultimately to the entire ummah. One must strive to serve all all one’s stakeholders to be best of one’s abilities.
This requires one to selflessly serve others and to fulfill the calling of the fardhu kifayah. Again .. where is the ambiguity or the Islamic rules and regulations that are obsolete?
If only muslims, the majority of them, strive to be HIS khalifahs on earth, then without exception, muslim communities and countries will be the best examples in governance, public administration and in the pursuit of knowledge in science and technologies.
Islam is never in the way of progress. In fact Allah reminds the believers and followers of Mumahad SAW that their fate would be changed (by ALlah) unless they strive change it THEMSELVES. To have argued otherwise, Syed Alwi had suggested that he had some unexplained motives ! Only Allah knows !!
Salam Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
1. Org yg mengata ALLAH mencarut
2. Org yg mengkafirkan sesama org Islam
3. Org yg bekerjasama dgn Syaitan
4. Org yg sentiasa memfitnah, berbohong, menyokong penzinaan
Boleh kah mereka ini mati dgn menyebut kalimah ‘La Ilaha Illah Lah’
Saya berdoa supaya mereka boleh sebut dgn baik…. setelah mereka bertaubat dan mengikut ajaran Agama Islam sebenar
Assalamu’alaikum wr wb
Tuan Guru Dr Mahathir yg di Rahmati ALLAH,
Kami insaf dgn apa yg telah dikatakan oleh Tn Guru Dr Mahathir tu…..
1. Agama Islam yg suci tidak pernah salah.
2. Yang bersalah ialah mereka yg memperalatkan agama Islam, sehingga tergamak mengata Allah mencarut, org Islam yg tidak sanggup menyokong mereka yg bersolat dengan takbiratul Ihram “Allahu Akbar” dituduhnya kafir
3. Semua rakyat Msia tahu sangat siapa mereka tu………………
manusia yang berjiwa Islam, tidak racist …. not sure whether Tun racist or not …
Salam Tun yang dikasihi dan pembaca budiman semua,
1. Apabila manusia itu sudah menetapkan di dalam kepalanya, apa yang dia mahu percaya dan apa yang dia mahu ikut, amat susah untuk orang lain mengubah pendiriannya.
2. Maka sebab itulah, manusia WAJIB bersedia mengubah fikirannya, kerana manusia WAJIB percaya, bahawa sifat manusia itu, mungkin berbuat silap dan mudah lupa.
3. Tetapi, apabila manusia itu angkuh, seolah-olah dia tidak mungkin bersalah, maka WAJARLAH di akhirat kelak dia mendapat azab ALLAH SWT.
4. Kerana keangkuhan manusialah yang akan membuatnya tidak menerima teguran dan pembetulan yang diberi oleh orang lain- apatah lagi jika orang lain itu SETERUnya.
5. Tun, saya sangat sedih- kerana masih ada manusia-manusia di Malaysia tercinta ini yang sangat BODOH- sehingga tidak lagi tahu dan tidak lagi boleh menggunakan akal fikiran, pertimbangan wajar dan kewarasan akal untuk menilai SENDIRI perkara-perkara yang sedang berlaku di sekeliling mereka, serta perkara-perkara SESAT yang disebut-sebut di sekeliling mereka.
6. Fatwa-fatwa sesat, penghinaan terhadap agama Islam dilakukan sendiri oleh orang-orang Islam yang digelar ulamak, dan di TERIMA BULAT_BULAT oleh penyokong ulamak-ulamak tersebut, sedangkan kata-kata yang dikeluarkan sangat menyedihkan sesiapa sahaja yang berfikiran waras dan yang menyayangi agama ini.
7. Tidaklah saya mahu termasuk ke dalam golongan orang yang mendoakan keburukan terhadap sesama saudara seagama, tetapi sedih sungguh hati saya mendengar kata-kata menghina kelahiran Nabi saya membuatkan kadang-kadang hati saya tedetik- Ya Allah!!! Berilah Petunjuk atau berilah Peringatan, mana-mana satu yang Engkau suka, kepada mereka ini. Semoga mereka mahu mengambil ingat.
Wassalam Tun dan teman-teman semua. Beringat-ingatlah kita, bahawa hidup ini sementara sahaja. Tiba waktunya kita semua akan pergi jua. Janganlah kita menganggap kehidupan kita akan berlanjutan selama-lamanya kerana saat maut menjemput tidak terduga. Islam agama mulia, agama Allah SWT. Janganlah kita menjadi perosaknya.
sikenit- yang masih bersedih orang memperlekehkan kelahiran Nabi yang mulia- tergamak sungguh lidah orang itu berkata-kata: dia tak takut langsungkah?
Betul kata Annafis5211: “ISLAM MENDIDIK MANUSIA MENJADI MANUSIA DAN PEMIMPIN TETAPI MANUSIA YANG MENDIDIK MANUSIA LAIN MENJADI INSAN. JADI jangan salahkan ISLAM.”
Islam mengharamkan ketuanan bangsa sewaktu mengatakan bahawa orang Arab tidak lebih tinggi darjatnya berbanding orang bukan Arab dan sebagainya, tetapi UMNO memperjuangkan Ketuanan Melayu. Adakah orang-orang di dalam ini kelihatan seperti orang yang beragama? Langsung tidak! Lihatnya lebih pada samseng. Nampaknya tidak banyak umat Islam Malaysia yang akan tiba di syurga kerana diperdaya oleh pemimpin-pemimpin sendiri.
Assalamualaikum wrt. My honorable Dr.
I would appreciate if you could kindly give me a space to answer to Dr Syed Alwi on hudud and the syariah law. Thank you.
Dear Dr Syed Alwi…the interpretation of the Holy Quran has oceans of meanings, it is also a book of history, mathematics, science, esoteric, exoteric etc. It is Light to mankind. Syariah law is implemented on Muslims based on the historical events that transpire during the time of our Holy Prophet Muhammad. Some are irrelevant to be imposed to this century. Take hudud for example, it is a law Allah imposed during the times of Muhammad…if you are a thief, your hands will be cut off. Let me enlighten you that during the times of the Holy Prophet Muhammad, the wife and children of the thief, whose hands are cut off, are given care and sustenance are provided to them in that community. Now, if we were to chop off hands of thieves in this century, who would provide the family with such care and sustenance? Syariah law imposes on human life is too strict to the extent that the non muslims would not wish to even embrace Islam due to the strict laws they impose. Look at the Religious department who so called trying the impose the syariah law … they screen shot couples who are caught in close proximity to the world when Allah clearly warn to cover up such humiliation. In the kingdom of Allah, a prostitute is elevated to the ranks of Wali for an atom’s weight of good she did i.e provide shelter to a dog who was shivering cold in the rain. A man who steals in order that he provide sustenance to his family was sent to heaven just because of a prayer he said ‘please forgive me Allah, i know i did wrong, i know not else to do except to steal as my father, grandfather and my great grandfather and his father are all thieves in which i grow up with. but O Allah, do not cast me out off hell even if its one cubit portion of it because i know that one day I will be given a chance to meet You’. Islam is beauty, love, mercy and compassion Dr Syed. The Islam you wish to impose in this century is no more relevant. This is what the Taliban is trying to emerge to the Muslims in Afganistan. What is the end result of Afgan? … poverty, chaos, ignorance and the list goes on…Reinterprete the Holy Quran in its Splendors of Light, you will emerge a Spiritual being full of Beauty, Majesty, Splendor and Glory…………
oooops..tis dr syed is leaning towards politics….Pas supporter perhaps
Asalamualaikum….
pendapat saya…selagi manusia mencari jln mudah utk bertaubat selagi itu ajaran2 al-arqam ayah pin nabi melayu
akan bertapak…selagi ader manusia percaya syurga neraka di tentukan oleh manusia selagi itu ader org yg memperdaya dan di perdaya/terpedaya..nauzubillah ya Allah…selamatkan kami semua dari org2 yg
hanya bertopengkan ilmu Mu yaAllah…amin2X….
Ekompute,
Your comment,
“Fratricide aside, if fitnah is worse than killing, can I conclude that killing is a lesser ‘crime’ than memfitnah?”
What it means that if you kill person, than the person will be dead, end of story. But if you fitnah a person, then this bring dishonour not only to him but others close to him.
Get it…..
This is the problem, interpreting….
If 10 people consist of intelectuals, simple minded, atheist, idiots, scholar, interpret then you can get multiple kind of fantastic interpretations.
To rid of this problem, Muslim in Malaysia use the universally endorsed (by most scholars) interpretation of Shafie (via Imam Shafie). In simple terms, what he did is to simplified everything in manuals and structured way which easily applied by Muslims.
If a muslim what to intrepret Islam themselves, they can do so but they must equipped with the profiency in Arabic language and others such as the history, culture, so that to get the right context of the interpretation.
This is to avoid misinterpretation you just made.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Tun..semoga sudi mengizinkan ruangan..
Tun..dalam ajaran Islam sejati..Ilmu adalah segala-galanya..
Sebab itu amanah Allah kepada Rasulnya yang di sampaikan kepada umat islam bermula dengan formula ini..
“Awalluddin makrifatullah”..
Awal agama ialah mengenal Allah…
Saya langsung tak heran dengan sikap orang kafir seperti dtan yang mengolok-olok dan mempersendakan ajaran Islam..Sikap mereka telah di perlihatkan dengan jelas oleh Allah di dalam Alquran.
Apa yang menghairankan saya ialah sikap Abdul Aziz yang konon-kononnya amat taat kepada ajaran Islam..Beliau dengan lemah lembut tetapi sinis menyindir orang-orang Islam supaya hanya mengambil Al Quran sahaja dan menolak hadith.Kafir ini telah lupa sindiran Allah kepada dia di dalam Al Quran tentang ..
1)”Mereka-mereka yang memakmurkan masjid”.
2)”Rusuk mereka jauh dari tempat tidur”.
3)”Bacaan di waktu malam lebih tenang” dan ayat-ayat yang serupa yang
TIDAK DI AMALKAN OLEH ABDUL AZIZ..
Alangkah malunya di tempelak sendiri oleh Allah!!
Tun..saya mengucapkan terima kasih kepada JB_from yang telah mengutarakan hujah yang baik tetapi malangnya beliau tidak menyeru Dr Alwi untuk sama-sama sembahyang jemaah.Ibnu Sulaiman mungkin dari Perlis atau Sabah..oleh itu saya faham sebab itulah dia tidak menjemput Dr Alwi untuk sama-sama berjemaah.Tapi..
walaupun saya jauh tetapi saya sedia menyahut seruan JB_from untuk datang ke Johor di mana kita bersama-sama dengar secara lisan hujah-hujah Dr Syed Alwi..
Dr Syed Alwi..jangan hanya berani mencabar orang tetapi pengecut untuk menyahut cabaran!!
Tulis kepada email saya dan cari satu hari yang bersesuaian untuk kita bersemuka dan saya akan patah-patahkan hujah anda yang memperbodohkan Imam Syafie,Imam Maliki,Imam Hanbali,Imam Ahmad,Imam Ghazali dan lain-lain..
Saya angkuh??…Bukan..Ini adalah tanggungjawab saya mempertahankan Islam..
Dr Syed Alwi dan semua konco-konco anda..
Islam itu bermula dengan pendidikan..itulah awallatuldin..dan penghayatan Sifat 20..Beriman dengan rukun Iman dan beramal dengan rukun Islam..
Di dalam internet ada di tunjukkan cara untuk melakukan prosedur IV drip,blood extraction,skin grafting dan lain-lain..Anda mampu melakukannya atau hanya mereka yang di “certified” sahaja boleh mengamalkan medical and surgical prosedur??
Begitu juga..Macam-macam ilmu boleh anda perkatakan tentang Islam..
Adakah anda layak memperkatakannya mewakili golongan Dahri?
Atau saya yang belajar mengikut konvension islam?
Jawab..jangan tak jawab…
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Salam kasih sayang Sdr. Dr Syed Alwi,
As a Singaporean Muslim – my final remark on this matter is – the proof of the pudding is in the eating and not in the talking. Time for Malaysian Muslims to walk the talk….the world is watching…….
We thank you for your sincere and heartfelt contributions.
Allah Subhanahuwataala sent Arch Angel Jibra’il to recite HIS COMMANDS of the AlQuran to Prophet Muhammad s.a.w, the Book Of Life, the good WAY for his Ummah to live this earth as the Human Being ie. in Peace and Love!
Remember prophet Adam a.s was granted his LOVE in the form of Eve. Remember, the angel Azazil who was damned as Satan and condemned to earth and granted the evil request to ‘destroy’ the sons of Adam who Unfortunately, like Adam and Eve, we, the weak human beings forgot/diverted from the essence of peace and love ( as in Bismillahirrohmanirrohim) and sampled the ways of the last Prophet and Messenger of Allah
But more often than not the human kinds fall to the evils ways of the Satan.. war and misery.
There are believers and non believers of Allah swt and his Rasul Muhammad s.a.w who are humble and yearn for peace and love and work for the betterment of human beings on this ‘violent’ mother earth.
Then there are other believers and non believers who believe in ‘violence’ as the way forward.. the survival of the fittest.
‘OF HUMAN INTUITIONS AND ANIMAL INSTINCTS’
ALFATIHAH, AMIN
Ps. Notice the ‘intermediary’ between the Creator and the Messenger?..so may we humbly share our little ‘ilmu’ with our uslim brothers and sisters a practice to make our ‘doa’ more ‘prompt and effective’?
Dengan Kalimah ‘Bismillahirrohmanirrohim’
1. Mohon Alfatihah disedekahkan pada diri
2. Mohon Alfatihah dihadiahkan kepada Rasulullah s.a.w
3. Mohon Alfatihah dihadiahkan kepada Malaikat Jibra’il
Insyaallah, dengan menghayati bacaan Alfatihah ( paksi segala ayat Quran)dengan lemah lembut dan sempurna, permohonan dalam ‘doa’ kita akan dilimpahkan dengan Zat Kasih dan Sayang Allah swt Yang Maha Pengasih dan Penyayang..Amin
Suci dan Ikhlas dari gerak dan kalam hati kami… mohon ampun
( It’s alright to us if the site admin finds this entry sensitive to be published)
Dear Tun,
To me someone who blames Islam for the failure of it followers, was blatantly ignorance to the true facts of real values of Islam. Its may due to his dismay and despair for what has been engulfed to all Muslims world of today. Its may lead someone to the point of renouncing his own believe of Islam [I hopes not].
As Tun had mentioned above, it is not the Islam is wrong, but people of Muslims is wrong. Interpreting Islam as they wish, as to suit their personal and political view. Eventually, Islam was found wrong by its own followers, which consequently leading them renouncing their believing.
Its can be solved, if someone who learn Islam, learn it from the right persons, and have the ability to THINK. It is the matter of think moderately and accepting the other contradict value or view while being not sliding from its rail.
Assalamualaikum Tun.
Dr syed alwi kata kerja susah?
Dengar kata dato najib dah buat 1malaysia.dengar kata dato najib nak ikut piagam madinah.
Dengar kata pengganti lepas dato najib adalah peralihan zaman kepada sistem kekhalifahan kali kedua selepas RAHMAN.
Dengar kata,generasi pemimpin selepas dato najib adalah generasi ‘pemukul’ dunia.
Dengar kata,tak lama nanti beberapa tahun akan datang kot,akan berlaku rusuhan yang membawa malaysia kepada tahap lebih bertenaga.
Semua ini hanyalah kata kata mutiara dari seorang jaga yang saya kenali.mungkin kita semua pun patut bercampur dengan masyarakat sepertimana wakil rakyat patut turun padang bertemu rakyat.
Berpesan wali Allah yang agung kepada anaknya,”bergaullah dengan orang kaya dengan cara terhormat,dan bergaullah dengan orang miskin dengan rendah diri”.
Salam Tun,
There is no argument that only by understanding and practicing Al-Quran and verified Hadis would lead us to the right path which is also called our road to paradise.
But in Hadis there’s also said that ulama’ or scholars they are in heritage of our rasul and nabi(prophet). We cannot mislead the Hadis as this is also a verified Hadis instructed us refers to them in any daily or instant ummah maslahah. They would need to refer back to the to the Al-Quran and Hadis in order to rectified any maslahah or problems or issues brought by public.
Somehow we have 4 mazhabs who also have an argument in this issue of cleaning legs in the process of taking wudhu’.
While in Quran said that rub your legs with waters so that it will be clean others mazhab said it will be valid if you have just flush water at both of your legs.
Even a simple process in wudhu ritual as part of cleaning your body before solat they can have an argument. You should wonder of others.
My idea here is that we have an absolute two guidance in practicing ibadah whether specific(khusus) or general in our whole life system. There have been said the first Hadis in 40 Hadis.
“If you hold to the true teachings of Al-Quran and Hadis, you will not be deviated forever ” Hadis Shahih
Even our prophet have put priority of Al-Quran in that Hadis.
In term of ranking Al-Quran is no.1. He didint said Hadis first and then Quran. We shall follow Allah s.w.t instruction first follow by what have been teached and coached by our Prophet.
In term of obeying our scholars or leaders, there is no such word ‘obey’ in Islamic dictionary eventhough there are ulama’s. Because they can not guarantee us to the heaven, only Allah s.w.t can and by syafaat of our prophet s.a.w.
For that, we can only follow the scholars or ulama’s if they are binding to the true teaching of Islam by taking Al-Quran and Hadis as an absolute or ultimate guidance of any solutions to ummah maslahah of our daily and instatnt problems.
Wallahu’alam….
Dear Tun,
I think the essence of this topic is about the interpretation of Islam.
It is best to provide an analogy so that people can understand this better. If I am wrong please correct.
In Egypt, there are the Pyramids. Western scholars have spent years to interpret the thousand years old text to undercover the treasures buried in the Pyramids. In order to uncover these treasures, they spent time studying these text and some of them have become an expert in language and culture of the Egyptian living at the time.
Experts have managed to uncover the treasures finally. There are also those who are greedy, making a short-cut interpreting the Pyramid themselves, they turn up dead because the Pyramid builder had booby-trap the place.
Similarly, there are prerequisites for interpreting the text of Islam. One have to be proficient in the Arabic language, the history and culture of Islam during the prophet’s time.
What we are practicing in Malaysia is the Syafie branch of Sunni sect. This branch of Sunni had be practiced until today by millions and had been endorsed by many experts of Islam. This is the Islamic model that we are practicing today.
From what I know, Islamic scholar does not deter their believer to intrepret the Quran and Hadith provided they are proficient to do so.
If we want to talk about differences about interpretation, there are even differences of interpretation of democracy by different people. Malaysia is adopting democracy, so as Singapore and USA but there are differences in the interpretation.
These differences exist due to the nature of Humans itself. One man see and experience world differently from another other although their physical characteristics are the same.
I hope that Dr. Syed Alwi can spend time to study Islam in the proper manner, equipting himself first with the necessary prerequisites so that he will not get confused from the translations.
About Islamic present in the current age, the Islamic banking is well except in a lot of countries, even to the non-muslim world. Singapore supersede Malaysia as the Islamic banking hub although it’s population mostly non-Muslim.
This is due to the fact that Muslim population represent a large proportion of the world.
The Muslim world in the middle east although separated by boundaries, their culture and language are very similar. Once they managed to rid off the existing regime, the potential of Islamic world benefited by land size and population is very promising.
Perhaps Tun’s idea of implementing the common “dinar” may come true that will enable Muslim nations to have a stronger present in the current age.
Salam Tun and all,
I strongly agree with your analysis. However, I do also think that the problem also lies with all Muslim as well. Many of us are quite very ignorant about the content of the Quran despite reading it every day with tajwid and taranum. This made us relying very heavily to ‘Ulama’ interpretation. And ‘Ulama’ since the day I know about Islam has never united in their interpretation about Islam. There are also plenty of false hadis disseminated in the public. Some are against any kind of hadis altogether. Some manipulated it for political gain like PAS. This divided people and weaken the Muslim.
Once we’re made so scared that we’re going to hell for not voting PAS because we’ll be going against hudud Allah, Nik Aziz has recently read the Al-Baqarah and review his interpretation about hudud and Islam and suddenly its okay and nobody need to go to hell? Is the Quran is some joke to some people?
Today another lie is revealed when the Pajero never hit Mat Sabu, instead he fell into the road divider by himself. This is the very people who supported Anwar even when he is caught with his pants down. I remember very strongly PAS quoted that “if one is proven to be an adulterer, he is never fit to be a leader in Islam context”. Today, they defended this guy and never made any single querry towards his immoral activity despite allegations thrown upon him during his stint in UMNO last time. Additionally, they also labelled UMNO as ‘Kafir’ for working with MCA but now being a jackass to DAP without shame even with Karpal’s blatant objection towards Islam.
You see, the fault is mine for not knowing what Islam is. That is why I was so easily deceived and manipulated by the name of Islam. Today I have founded many interesting scientific facts in Quran itself. What amused me is that today we have many scientific studies that supported the fact descended upon us since 1400 years ago like the theory of ‘big bang’. No wonder it is categorised as the greatest miracle human kind can have.
I heard that the Jews know Quran better than the Muslims. Many of the Deans and Supervisors in Islamic studies at my univeristy last time were Jews. Maybe that is why they are rather more advance than the Muslims.
1) I think Dr Syed Alwi Bin Ahmad (Alsree) is mongering nothingness.
2) Many people get caught in his way.
3) There is no academic value in his writing since the foundations of his arguments are based on incomplete deductions of facts.
4) If someone says “God allows me to steal. Therefore, In the name of God I will steal”.
5) An incomplete deduction will show God is the problem, since God allows that guy to steal.
6) Going deeper to the root, we will see that the real problem is that idiotic guy since God has nothing to do with him wanting to steal.
7) Similarly, if you arrive to a conclusion that Islam is the reason why Muslim countries fail, you deduction is not complete.
8) The problem is the people. either the those in power or their subjects or both.
9) This discussion is meaningless since it will create nothing but hate.
10) You don’t need to consult a Sheikh to progress in String theory.
11) I understand his motivation, but the methodology is just wrong.
Assalamualaikum,
Dear Tun Mahathir & fellow Muslims,
There is absolutely NOTHING WRONG in admitting that it is much harder to govern a Muslim country because we have problems in adapting the Syariah to todays world.
I will not argue this point – because it is plain obvious to the world. You may deny it – but until you can prove otherwise – well – what do you expect ?
I am not going to debate this. Pointless. But I will issue a challenge – go and find an interpretation and implementation of Islam that is agreeable to ALL in Malaysia. That alone is a very difficult task.
Wassalam
Dr Syed Alwi
Assalamualaikum Tun,
1. Find back the true interpretation of Islam. Maybe that is the words that we are looking for as all attempts on re-interpretation made by us, muslims lately have lead to extremism on both end of the interpretation, secularly and conservatively. As Tun said, returning back to the true interpretation of Islam will lead a balance of religion and worldly affairs.
2. The civil government of Medina formed by Rasulullah SAW was built with a charter that emphasises on a multi-religion/racial/tribe society that is just. That is the constitution that we should follow. While there should be adaptations to the 21st century, the core values of the government formed are applicable through time.
3. On Malaysia government. My concerns over PAS and DAP coalition is deepen by each day. The indecisive decisions made by PAS recently showed how weak the Kedah government is. They should have a strong stance against attacks from their so called ‘ally’ especially on their Islamic principles. While the early intention is good, a flip-flop decision showed their weaknesses. Thorough discussions should have been made before such policy is announced. On the other hand, DAP has been such a despicable ally. Rather than asking the Kedah government to lift the ban, they should have ask others politely to honour the decision made by asking others to respect muslims’ holy month of ramadhan. Further, they should have requested to the Kedah state government to relax the restrictions to non-muslims. Despite, they blatantly showed that they can control PAS even when PAS represents a state government. The media statement by LKS shows how parted they are (http://dapmalaysia.org/english/2011/jul11/lks/lks5971.htm) I just could not see a stable government formed through PR.
4. The current government should also realise their weaknesses. All of the corrupt leaders should be straighten or removed. It has been a while that the government holds in power, and it is corrupting them to the root. The power is not yours; it is ours, the people. Believing that the power is in the people hands will calm your ego and save you from self-destruction. Even if you hide your corruptions and restricting others in speaking out, the new generation of well-informed people will discover them eventually. What you should do is to accept your mistakes publically and weeds out all your corrupted leaders and weaknesses. You need to let the people help you rebuild the government as they required where the people helping on all aspects, not just in economy but politically too.
While I, wholeheartedly, agree with, “…It is wrong to blame Islam for the sad state of Muslim states,” however, I have to register my disagreement with your reasoning that, “…The blame should be put on the shoulders of the interpreters of Islam whose teachings divide the Muslims so deeply that they fail to be guided by the true teachings of Islam.”
Why?
Because, in #9, you wrote, “…If Muslims follow the true teachings of Islam as found in the Quran and the verified hadiths, they should be able to govern their countries
as effectively as the followers of other religions. I must say though that the followers of other religions too often fail…”
So, by way of logic, if Muslims follow the true teachings of Islam, then the misinterpretations by the misinterpreters of Islam would be rendered useless, right?
Alas, reality proves the contrary!
Why?
And, why are Muslims in this country so easily misled?
Could it be that the only thing Islamic in all the Muslims of Malaysia is the word “Islam” written in their MyCards?
Maybe the misinterpreters of Islam on both sides of the political divide should come out with a Fatwa that all Muslims must be buried with their MyCards as proof of their religious affiliation?
How’s this for a tagline on all future MyCards… “Your Passport to Heaven!”
As Muslims we read the Qur’an, and we know that, “The believers are but a single Brotherhood. So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers, and fear Allah, that you may receive mercy.” [Al-Hujjurat, 49:10]
And, again in surah Al-Anbiya, 21:92, “Verily, this Brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood, And I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore serve me (and no other).”
Isn’t it odd that, since UMNO and PAS are, supposedly, a single brotherhood… then, why are they disunited?
As is evident, PAS has long since taken the stance that UMNO is “kafir,” but, what has UMNO done?
Trying to outIslam your fellow brother isn’t a very wise thing to do, as there are times when fighting fire with fire will only get everybody burned… including the bystanders.
The answer lies in verse 104 of the surah Al-Imran, “Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, Enjoining what is right, And forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity.”
And again in verse 110 of the same surah, “Ye are the best of Peoples, evolved for mankind, Enjoining what is right, Forbidding what is wrong, And believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: Among them are some who have faith, But most of them are perverted transgressors.”
Indeed, if only we had faith!
But, then again, what is faith?
Simply put, faith is belief: a belief that is not based on proof.
But, then again, faith is like love… very hard to describe or define: you’ll only begin to understand it, when you it hits you!
I have always faithfully believed that all Muslims are brothers, however, if two self-professed Muslims can’t see eye to eye on matters of faith, then, there can be 3 possibilities:
1. one is not a Muslim
2. the other is not a Muslim
3. both aren’t!
So, Muslim leaders and interpreters must make peace and reconcile: inviting to all that is good; enjoin what is right (what is right for you is also right for me); forbid what is wrong (what is wrong for me is also wrong for you.)
A white lie is still a lie; a half-truth is still not the truth. And, let there arise among you a band of people inviting to all that is good… Ameen.
(Translations taken from Abdullah Yusuf Ali’s “the Meaning of The Holy Qur’an.”)
i think dr syed alwi is right not to favor political sides when debating religion. i am sure tun will tend to be negative towards pas.
many people want to be good muslims but interpretation by current ulamas are not making things easy for rational intellects. some choose not to think too much about it to avoid migraine but that too can be anti progress. either way just do our best.
Assallammualaikum Tun..
Moga mendapat keizinan dan ruang
[Dr Syed Alwi ]
[[You claim that what we practice is no longer the “original” Islam. Well – that itself is open to dispute and criticism. I believe very strongly – that Islam is in dire need of a re-interpretation. The context of the 10th century Middle East no longer exists. The Muslim world needs to adapt to the challenges of a 21st century global village]]
What challenges Dr Asri?..I challenged you about Al Fatihah context and you don’t have the ability to respond..Read the word..Impotent..Oopps..Sorry..
I mean incompetent…:)
We can go on..and on..and you will claimed that your detractor does not own up to your standard..A very self assured belief at that..Other’s will strongly says..
ARROGANCE…..
ARROGANCE ( minus the preview )
Dear Dr..Takes time to lower your standards to my level..Stoop a bit..and writes to my e mail puakaalam7@yahoo.com
You will finds no glory in writing to me..
But you will finds that accomodating a muslim is a proper steps to adapt to the challenges..
Walk your talk Dr..
Assallammualaikum Tun..
Moga mendapat keizinan dan ruang
[Dr Syed Alwi ]
[[You claim that what we practice is no longer the “original” Islam. Well – that itself is open to dispute and criticism. I believe very strongly – that Islam is in dire need of a re-interpretation. The context of the 10th century Middle East no longer exists. The Muslim world needs to adapt to the challenges of a 21st century global village]]
What challenges Dr Asri?..I challenged you about Al Fatihah context and you don’t have the ability to respond..Read the word..Impotent..Oopps..Sorry..
I mean incompetent…:)
We can go on..and on..and you will claimed that your detractor does not own up to your standard..A very self assured belief at that..Other’s will strongly says..
ARROGANCE…..
ARROGANCE ( minus the preview )
Dear Dr..Takes time to lower your standards to my level..Stoop a bit..and writes to my e mail puakaalam7@yahoo.com
You will finds no glory in writing to me..
But you will finds that accomodating a muslim is a proper steps to adapt to the challenges..
Walk your talk Dr..
Tun,
Dr Syed Alwi academic background is in the field of Physical Science (correct me if I am wrong). He is a Physicist which studies the Science of the Physical world. With his area of expertise, perhaps he can contribute in the discussion of the nature of atoms, energy, technology and so forth.
However, he made comments about Human Science which is not his areas of studies or work. What does he knows of Islam which authorized him to make a conclusion that it is not suitable as a model in this age or time of the world?
Actually, does he knows any single model of Islam at all? Did he spend some time studying Islam in Singapore or he just make a convenient conclusion based on his fancy???
Islam once rule half of the planet. What part of Islam that discourage the search of knowledge or development of the human race? Did Islam ask their believer to go backward? Did Islam ask their believer to be racist? or to bomb civilians?
As you said there are some aspect of Islam which is true but there are also some misinterpreted by their followers some deliberately for whatever reasons and some due from misguided scholars.
The most established sect of Islam is the sunni and syiah which is more then 700 years old. The branch of sunni that we are practising in Malaysia (there are 4 branches)is the Syafie mazhab from scholar Imam Syafie. Imam Syafie is a very prominent Islamic Scholar in his time that so far there have never been any dispute or challenger to his integrity.
Perhaps Dr Syed Alwi can raised or relate which part of the Syafie mazhab which happen to been practiced and preached by his ancestors that is not suitable to his liking.
There are other newer sect like the Wahabis which is relatively new (about 200 years) that is practiced in Saudi Arabia. There are some dispute about this sect, it is seen as harsh from what we see in Saudi Arabia. It is also adopted by the Taliban which the western label extremist.
The failure of Middle Eastern country cannot be blamed to Islam as they did not implement Islam. This applies to Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq, Yemen and Syiria all rule by dictators.
The one closest to implement Islam is Iran which adopt Syiah sect.
At one time in Turkey, a leader named Mustafa Kamal had revolutionized their culture by removing the Islamic influence, headscarf were banned, western influence were fused to their culture.
Now in Turkey, Islamic culture is being readopted by many. The existing president’s wife is wearing headscarf and the country is doing very well poised to be one big economies in the near future .
Assalamualaikum Tun Dr,
Jelas hari ini mereka yg bergelar ilmuan juga terlalu mudah diperMANIS, diperKUDA, diperKOSA, diperJUMUD oleh ilmu dan maklumat yg bersumber hanya SATU rujukan saja. Hal ini sgt menakutkan kerana keRIAKan para ilmuan yg syok sendiri ngan sumber yg satu wp SUMBER YG SATU itu pelbagai sudut. Mereka yg berilmu sudah menjadi PENJUMUD kepada ISLAM dan MELAYU dlm konteks Msia sedangkan ISLAM satu yang amat Indah.
Tq
Dear Honorable Dr.,
We need scholars with intelligence to truly interprete the Holy Quran for the benefit of mankind. The Holy Quran has multiple levels of meaning and none can grasp it except the sincere, says Allah SWT. Holy Quran is full of light that vanishes darkness, it is full of wisdom that could lead man towards the right path. We now only have scholars with intellect but we have yet to emerge a scholar of Intelligence. Allah clearly says that He has left nothing from the Holy Quran which literally means that if we could only dig out its inner message, we will bring forth diamonds and rubies. What JAKIM did was putting limits upon the interpretations of the Holy Quran…you cannot write this, you must delete this…you must not say this…I had an encounter with JAKIM on the limitations they impose..what truly shocked me was this : in my book The Secret of Haj : From Zero to Spiritual Intelligence i stress that Allah’s path is but One, but we have created so many paths such as Sunni, Wahabi, Shiah etc whilst Allah clearly warned mankind not to be divided into sects. The comment from JAKIM was : please take out this statement as it would make ‘public unrest’. If we feel that the feelings of man is more important than the message of Allah, what is more to be said? and religious orthodox stress too much on arabic grammar of the Holy Quran and forgot to stress its wisdom…..we create so many physical beings and forgotten the gift of a spiritual life…we create so many intellect and have forgotten the gift of intuition…this are amongst the causes of miseries amongst the muslim.
Dr Syed Alwi Bin Ahmad is right. “The truth is – neither you nor me nor anyone else – knows how to implement Islam in today’s world.”
A simple paragraph like: “The verse in the Quran which declares that fitnah (bad mouthing) is worse than killing is not meant to permit fratricide. In fact killing a fellow Muslim is forbidden.”
Fratricide aside, if fitnah is worse than killing, can I conclude that killing is a lesser ‘crime’ than memfitnah? Does that also imply that it is alright to kill those who memfitnah? And does “in fact killing a fellow Muslim is forbidden” means killing a non-Muslim is not forbidden?
Who wants to venture to interprete that? Or is this post going to be censored too, simply because no one can interprete that short paragraph or the interpretation of which is going to be another embarrassment to Islam which sanctions killing in the name of jihad?
Salam che det.. moga che det sihat selalu ^^ insyaAllah..
from my opinion others than che det..
1. No suitable candidate that can govern and have the charisma for controlling a multi races country.
2. Money rule! Islam?? will be their 3rd or 4th or lower option.
3. Eventhough we have suitable leader, it is harder to find suitable subordinate.
4. Restricted due to PBB rules and many international rules that already against islamic rules.
thats my opinion.. if wrong please correct me.. still learning to become a thinker.. =)
QUOTE: “In fact killing a fellow Muslim is forbidden.”
I guess herein lies the problem with Islam. That statement can be interpreted to mean “killing a non-Muslim is permitted” and that probably explains the emergence of terrorism today that is, more often than not, associated with Muslims. And when this happens, all non-Muslims begin to be very suspicious of Muslims and then what happens? Will non-Muslims ever embrace Muslims as their trustworthy friends? Or conversely, what happens if every religion treats killing non-members as acceptable? And with so many religions in this world, there will never be any peace. In fact, the Jews have reinterpreted the 10 Commandments and say that “Thou shall not kill” actually means “thou shall not murder”. And because of this, they say that it is perfectly alright to kill in the battlefield because war is not murder. So much for human creativity. But if we agree that life is transient, there is absolutely no reason to take anyone’s life. If Allah cannot ensure that Islam will survive without killing anyone, then just too bad.
“We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another.” — Jonathan Swift
Assalamualaikum,
Dear Tun Mahathir,
I just want to wrap up my views on this matter. Firstly – there is nothing wrong in saying that Muslim countries are harder to govern than Non-Muslim ones – because of the problems in interpreting the Syariah.
You refer to the Islam as first handed down to the Prophet. But there is no one alive today who has access to God’s heavenly interpretation of Islam. You cannot make a comparison to the Prophet’s time. In those days – the interpretation of Islam was simple – and it was simply whatever the Prophet ordered. But today no one alive today, can claim that he or she has access to Divine interpretation. There are no more Prophets.
So I reject this view of an “interpretation-free” Islam. There is no interpretation-free Islam today. Islam IS defined by its interpretation by mortals because the Prophet is no longer with us today to give a Divine interpretation.
That being said – in all Muslim countries – development is hampered by conflict over the interpretation of Islam. Case in point – Malaysia.
If Malaysian Muslims put the same energy to work on Science – as they do in arguing over PAS or UMNO’s version of Islam – then I think that Malaysia would be an advanced country by now.
But Muslims all over the world cannot even agree on what the correct interpretation of Islam is. The 21st century industrialised world is NOT the same as 10th century Middle East. And that is why Muslims argue over the interpretation of Islam.
I am NOT going to debate this issue with other Malaysian readers here on your blog. There is no point in this.
I have said my piece. It is up to Malaysians to draw their lessons from this episode.
For me – I issue an open challenge to all here – to come up with an interpretation and implementation of Islam – that is agreeable to ALL in Malaysia. And that itself is a very difficult thing to do.
I’m not going to argue about this. The world is watching the Muslims of Malaysia. Can Malaysia overcome this divisiveness of the interpretation of Islam ?
As a Singaporean Muslim – my final remark on this matter is – the proof of the pudding is in the eating and not in the talking. Time for Malaysian Muslims to walk the talk….the world is watching…….
Wassalam
Dr Syed Alwi Bin Ahmad (Alsree)
Askm Tun,
True indeed. This is not surprising at all if one read, study and understand the contents of Quran & Hadith. Unfortunately many read but seldom study what more to understand the contents. Among other things, it says ” In later days, muslims will break into 73 groups but only 1 is accepted by Allah SWT”. So the question is are we in THE ONE? The true Muslims will be based on the teaching of al-Quran & hadiths as said by Prophet PBUH ,” I left you all 2 things; Al-Quran & my Sunnah ( as narrated in hadiths ). If you all refer to these 2 as your guidance in life , you will not be astray forever”. So why the Muslims are reluctant to do adhere to this Prophet PBUH’s reminder rather than promoting other teachings based on mazhabs and practising “bida’ah” ( matters not practised by Prophet PBUH in carrying ibadah activities ) which clearly forbidden as narrated in hadith.
On top it, some religious authorities frequently impose many “barriers” to the promotion of Islamic teaching among the masses by those having true religious knowledge. They have the tendency to “punish” rather than focus to “educate” the masses. As the result, as Tun have said, ” Islam has become and is the most misunderstood religion in the world”. In actual fact, Islam is simple but it is the “ulama’ & religious authorities that make Islam looks difficult and thus has frightened many non-Muslim away. In the global perspective, Islam has a strong negative image as religion of terror thus Muslims are seen/labelled as terrorists. It is really sad because Islam is in fact a religion of peace to those who want to understand.
In Malaysian perspective, Islam has been strongly politised to the extend that the hardened followers of political party will believe and blindly do whatever their political leaders say/decree eventhough not mentioned in Quran or hadith. This happens purely because many are still ignorant about the contents of Quran & Hadith, eventhough in Quran it is mentioned that it is “wajib”/compulsory for every Muslim to acquire knowledge through reading, studying & understanding its contents as it is unacceptable for anyone to practice something in which one has no knowledge about the subject. Unfortunately, we like to conduct and attend more “ceramah agama” – religious forums where we listern & we easily forget after that.
Recent announcement by Hadi Awang that PAS has changed its objective from establishing a Muslim State to a Welfare State ( negera kebajikan ). It is alright to change a party slogan but by saying the reason that NOW after so long that he found out that there is NO mention/call at all, of establishing a Muslim State in Quran or hadith. So PAS had obviously been lying all this time and that it had caused many misleading belief among it members to the extend to label others not supporting it as infidel, “kafir”. Those who died during Memali incident ( those fighting to establish a Muslim State ) for example, had then been decreed “syahid”. What happen now? Clearly, they have died for nothing but for believing and being obedient to their leaders / PAS. What a sad story it is. To change the PAS’s objective/slogan is alright but to declare because NOW they found the truth ( not mentioned in Quran or Hadith ) PAS political philosophy and direction is now questionable. Can this be another lie? Is it also possible that DAP has demanded the change as a condition if PAS is to remain in PR as a reliable partner? PAS has finally succombed to the wish of DAP as once its arc enemy. They can continue to mislead their hardened followers. Is it now the right time that PAS followers to demand for their leaders to repent ( taubat ) and so only Allah SWT will be the judge?
May Allah show them the right path.
Assalamualaikum Tun.
Hebat Dr Syed Alwi Ahmad.Siap keluar kat surat khabar lagi ha.Amin Tan boleh cuba lagi lain kali (jgn marah ye…)
Macam mana Dr tu dapat gelaran Syed pun entah la.Harap Dr Syed dapat tulis dengan berhati-hati lagi lain kali.Ia nampaknya berkenaan dengan akidah jugak sedikit sebanyak.
Sebenarnya dalam Islam zaman era moden ini,ia lebih memerlukan kaedah pembelajaran tasawuf untuk lebih membangun dari segi jiwa dan juga kenegaraan.
Saya baru beli satu buku bertajuk Soal Jawab A-Z tentang Tasawuf Tapi Tiada Tempat Bertanya…oleh Dr Zulkifli Mohamad Al-Bakri.Buku tersebut menjelaskan secara umum berkenaan apa yang terdapat dalam tasawuf.Kalau tak silap saya beliau adalah antara ahli majlis fatwa.
Di dalamnya terkandung tentang tasawuf termasuk pertanyaan tentang ‘ilmu rasaan’ atau ilham.Tetapi perlu difahamkan bahawa ilham yang datang tetap tidak boleh menolak Al-Quran,Sunnah dan juga pandangan majoriti ahli-ahli muktabar agamawan.
Ilmu tasawuf adalah ilmu yang dimiliki oleh para Wali-wali Allah.Dan wali-wali Allah adalah sentiasa dihidupkan di atas muka bumi ini.
Rahsia-rahsia ini hanyalah diantara individu tersebut dengan Allah s.w.t dan terdapat tanda atau alamat tertentu untuk diketahui.
Alamat-alamat tersebut adalah ;
“Sesungguhnya pelindungku ialah Allah yang telah menurunkan Kitab (Al-Quran),dan Dialah jua yang menolong dan memelihara orang-orang yang berbuat kebaikan”.
Al-A’raf ayat 196
Maka dapatlah difahamkan bahawa wali Allah itu mempunyai tugas-tugas tertentu dalam mempertahankan Islam.Dan mereka ini tentulah orang yang benar dalam memahami Al-Quran dan As-Sunnah.
Marilah kita beramai-ramai mempelajari serta mendalami ilmu tasawuf.Berdampingan dengan orang alim lebih membawa kejayaan dunia dan akhirat buat diri kita.
Dan ingatlah,berhati-hati bila terdapat manusia yang mengajak kita semua ke jalan tasawuf,kerana dia mungkin wali Allah yang sebenar-benarnya. (penulisan Yayasan Sofa – setiap hari Selasa dalam Utusan).
Terima kasih Tun.
Salam Tun,
In Malaysia, the authorities didn’t take enough and necessary action to prevent Islam from misinterpreted.
Opposition leader in Selangor Datuk Satim Diman was sent out from Dewan Undangan Negeri just because he questioned the necessity of Adun Sekinchan Ng Suee Lim of reciting Hadith.
When will this stop?
As-salaamu `alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh. Thank you Tun for your enlighting blog. Much
have I gained from reading your blog postings.
“INTERPRETATION OF ISLAM” may resonate with what is said by Mawlana Shaykh Hisham Kabbani. In
his book “The Approach of Armegeddon?” it quoted Rassullahllah(S.a.w) “After me come caliphs, and
after the caliphs comes princes, and after princes there will be kings and after the kings, there will be tyrants.”
Mawlana Shaykh Hisham Kabbani also metioned
“Prophet (s) said, antara, “(You are going) to see,” and Sahaabah (r) were listening, al-hufaat al-auraat, “the barefooted naked Bedouins.” Aurah means “naked”. As you know, in the desert they cover their bodies from here to here, as it’s hot. At that time there were no slippers or anything; they moved on the sand barefooted. He said an tara, “to see”… Prophet is eloquent as it is a wahi in a hadith, so he doesn’t want to say something offensive; therefore, he put it in
a way that this area where people are in the desert with no slippers, barefooted, and naked, are covering only the aurah, private parts, “Bedouins,” who live in the desert. Who lives in the the desert today in that region? Those in the Arab Peninsula. He said, “Those who raise sheep, goats,
cows, animals,” it means shepherds, yatataawaloona fi ’l-bunyaan, “will be competing in (building) high rises,” on who will build the tallest building.”
And among the signs of the last days, that I personally felt was when I read in the Straits Times(Singapore), that the Wahabis had installed the biggest clock in the world. Where you might
ask.? Well in front of the Kabaah, currently the world Second tallest building Abraj Al-Bait Towers(601m). Muslim should not be proud that we have the world’s biggest clock or the tallest
buildings. The talllest in Dubai Burj Khalifa.828 meters. {Petronas Twin Towers 452m.} Bare foot naked Bedouins racing each other building skyscrapers. Yet there are news that the Whabis with even a bigger ego planning to build a building that is 1 Mile high. (Burj Khalifa.828m – 1 mile is 1760 yards or 5280 feet or 1.6 km that is 1600m high, almost double that of Burj)
Note: there is a book written by Mawlana Shaykh Hisham “The Approach of Armageddon? An Islamic Perspective”
I believe in the message that Shaykh Hisham brought as well as his master/teacher (father-in-law) Mawlana Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani.
Thank you again Tun for your attempt to unite part of the ummah. May Allah bless us and guide us to truth, and may ALLAH also gives us long life till the time of the rule of Mahadi (a.s.) which is in the immediate near future.
Note : If I am not mistaken,The Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono had openly declared
to be a student of Mawlana Shaykh Hisham Kabbani.
Please refer to the following site for the message of :
1. Mawlana Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani
http://www.sufilive.com/
2. Mawlana Shaykh Hisham Kabbani
http://media.islamicsupremecouncil.org/
http://media.islamicsupremecouncil.org/The_Year_of_Mahdi_a_and_Safety_for_All_Humanity-2916-print.html
Salam Tun semoga di rahmati Allah SWT hendak nya,
1.Amat setuju dengan pandangan Tun. Orang yang menggadai kan Islam(jika dia Islam) umpama begitu bangga memiliki RUMAH RUMAH AGAM konon hasil “titik peluh nya”. Tetapi sayang nya bukan semua ruang rumah pernah dan kerap dia pergunakan, lebih lagi tempat tidur dan ruang istirehat. Dia hanya teruja dengan ruang istimewa (private void) hanya tujuan bersosial, berhiburan lalok melalaikan. Suara dia bak himar, keangkuhan seperti pijak tapak kaki mampu menembusi bumi. Riak, kufur ingkar nikmat dalam ertikata nya.
2.Islam telah terbukti dengan sejarah nya. Islam terbukti dengan setiap zaman yang di lalui sehingga kini. Tidak pula terkebelakang atau ketinggalan. Tidak juga jumud. Hanya Islam mampu menjuarai masa jika manusia tahu memertabatkan nya.
3.Terakam selari dalam Kitabullah Al-Quranulkarim di mana Allah SWT berulang-ulang peringatkan. Rasul Allah SAW di nobat Pemimpin berwibawa dunia( jika betul, dewan senet amerika pun mengiktiraf, memapar pujian kehebatan baginda)- membentuk manusia, keluar dari zaman kegelapan. Sejarah Eropah yang merompak, menciplak,memiliki ilmu-ilmu Islam dijadikan rujukan, sudah melepaskan zaman kegelapan mereka iktibar dari sejarah keagongan Islam. Kehebatan kepimpinan Islam benar terasuh, melebar ke seluruh penjuru dunia.
4.Biasa lah, manusia penuh keangkuhan. Penafian demi nafsu dan keegoan. Dalam mensyukuri nikmat Allah SWT, hanya segelintir sahaja yang betul-betul bersyukur. Majoriti penuh dengan kemusyrikan dan kesyirikan.
5.Jika “Rumah Agam” tadi di pergunakan seluruh nya, setiap ruang yang ada di guna secara bermanfaat, begitu lah nilai ilmu-ilmu Islam jika di gunakan dengan betul akan sentiasa menghias ruang-ruang nya. Sayang, ruang-ruang tetap di tinggalkan kesunyian.
6.Jika di gunakan bermanfaat, umpama JITU akidahnya. Betul haq syariat nya akan benarlah perlakuan dan jasad nya. Maka akan hadhir roh (nur) NYA berpaksi kebenaran mutlak Rukun Iman dan Rukun Islam. Tapak teguh berdiri gagah hati penuh taqwa dan tawadduk.
7. Bak kat Tun, manusia terus-terusan ingkar dan mengingkari sepenuh nya. Tertutup rapat sama’ dan bashir nya. Umat Islam balik semula mengagongkan kejahilan dan kemungkaran.
Salam Tun…
1. Because of hereditary of stupidity and ignorance have led muslims in Malaysia to believe that Quran has 6666 verses… it actually has 6236.
2. 3rd pillar of iman is to believe in Kitabs (QURAN) and 4th is rasuls… it shows that we have to read and study the message since rasuls are dead… like malay’s say: “apa yang disampaikan, bukan siapa yang menyampaikan”
3. Disputes of this and that amongst ulamas have led us into separation
4. PAS is the party that put Islam has their roof not their foundation… If something wrong happens to their policies (which are not Islamic most of the time), People blame Islam because of spinnings of Allah’s words that have been done by PAS… i hope that PAS will be abolished and join UMNO…
5. I wish you will stick with us Tun…
Dear Tun,
Another good article..
1. Problem right now is, that the Muslim are divided into many thought even tough its forbid the true Islam rules. They are also, often, divided into many group and kabilah.
2. Most of the Muslim forgot (ignored for some cases) that they must be unity among them especially when they are facing crisis and attack from their enemies.
3. What is the purpose for the Muslim in the Arab world killing their own brother and cousin for the sake of ideology and kabilah while the enemies are in front of their own eyes (yet killing their relative to).
4. As what Tun had explained before, the real enemy for Muslim are themselves. Muslim must changes in order to avoid them to be discriminated by the other. Learn and gain more knowledge.
5. Trough knowledge, we can identifies what is good and bad, Real Ulama or Fake Ulama, the enemies and formulate strategies to overcome the so called ‘soft war’ by western. Its merely impossible to succeed without knowledge. Its very2 long journey for the Muslim and it should start right now.
and by knowledge we can interpret ISLAM in the right way..
thanks for your effort Tun in modernized Malaysia and encouraging the Malay to educate themselves. May Allah s.w.t bless u and your family.
Assalamualaikum and hello Tun and readers,
I think there are some people who believe that they are religious but they are not that religious. I suppose one of the reasons is they do not know much about what has happened, what is happening and what is likely to happen in the world. Thus, their thinking is limited.
Salam Tun Dr Mahathir ,
1. Have you ever analyzed why non-muslims country can be
much more successful even without the guidance of Islam?
2. You mentioned that the followers of other religions also
often fails but yet they demonstrated a better path in human
rights, socio-economy, political and many more postive
success indicators.
Wish to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks.
Salam YAB & diKasihi Tun,
Saya AMAT SETUJU dengan pandangan Tun. Ini tidak bermakna yang saya TAKSUB terhadap Tun. Saya pun boleh membuat penilaian sendiri. Lagipun Tun memang BIJAKSANA, dan sentiasa mementingkan orang lain (rakyat) berbanding diri sendiri. Seperti selalu, Tun membuat kenyataan berdasarkan KEBENARAN & FAKTA, dan bukannya berdasarkan kepentingan peribadi.
Harap Tun teruskan menulis perkara yang boleh menyedarkan umat ISLAM terutamanya yang teramat TAKSUB kepada pemimpin mereka, dan juga untuk menyedarkan mereka yang berpandangan SEMPIT seperti Dr. Syed Alwi & ramai lagi bijak-pandai Melayu/Islam – Dr. lah katakan…
Terima kasih Tun.
*** Semoga Allah SWT melindungi Tun sekeluarga. ***
But there should be atleast some living example of true peaceful message of Islam on earth? For that log on to http://www.muslimsforpeace.org
Selamat sejatera Tun. Penjelasan yg simple dan muda d fahami, Islam itu juga sebenarnya muda klu kita mengikuti ajaran yg sebenar. Malang nya ada golongan yg menyulitkannya, ini la masaalahnya bagaimana nak menengani golongan ini. Nabi penah berpesan. Dalam segala apa pun yg kita buat hendak la dlm keadaan sederhana. Apa2 saja yg kita buat klu keterlaluan akan jadi tak baik. Contoh: dlm kita mengamal agama, klu keterlaluan akan membawa kpda kefanatikan. Mari la kita umat Islam d Malaysia renungkan bersama. Moga2 kita mendapat redha nya. Amin…
A’kum Tun,
Please allow me to pen my thoughts.
I think there is some truth in what Dr Syed Alwi has said. Maybe not many people agree to it. If you look at it in a bigger picture, it is true to say that there is none Muslim country in the world that follow the teaching of the Koran as a source of law. They rule the country by their own law. Countries like Saudi, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Indonesia, Iran, Qatar, Lebanon, Pakistan, and many more are running them using their own law. Same goes to Malaysia but maybe not as bad as of those country.
In the Koran, any law regarding our belief, our doings, our zakat payment, our dealing with non-believers, our salvation, the punishment for those did wrong, social contract, religious duties, what is allowed and what is not allowed, lesson for the believers, story of earlier generations and prophets,the proofs of science, big bang theory, how human were created, the sign of God, greatness of God, about the Day of Judgment, our correct shahadah, our ‘rukun islam’ and iman are all in it for us to find and study. But we neglected on it and go for so called easier book to read and study. That is why we are not united in worshiping God alone. But we end up having sections among us just like the Christian did when Jesus passed away. When Muhammad passed away after he has brought the message of Allah which is the Koran, people then deviate from the right teaching. It has been more than 1400 years now since the Koran came and until today, we never use the Koran as our source of law. We think Islam is teaching the people to move backwards instead of forwards. It is not Islam that would bring us to darkness, it is us. Islam will only bring us to light out of darkness. But most people do not know. They think they are doing something right when they are actually doing something really wrong. Just look around the world, where can you find a stable Muslim country who rule it according to the teaching of Islam based on the Koran? I cant find one.
Let me share with you the meaning of Surah 23: Al Mu’minun (The Believers)
Sura 23: The Believers (Al-Mu’minun)
Number of verses in Sura: 118
Order of revelation: 74
[23:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[23:1] Successful indeed are the believers;
[23:2] who are reverent during their Contact Prayers (Salat).
[23:3] And they avoid vain talk.
[23:4] And they give their obligatory charity (Zakat).
[23:5] And they maintain their chastity.
[23:6] Only with their spouses, or those who are rightfully theirs, do they have sexual relations; they are not to be blamed.
[23:7] Those who transgress these limits are the transgressors.
[23:8] When it comes to deposits entrusted to them, as well as any agreements they make, they are trustworthy.
[23:9] And they observe their Contact Prayers (Salat) regularly.
[23:10] Such are the inheritors.
[23:11] They will inherit Paradise, wherein they abide forever.
Accurate Embryology
[23:12] We created the human being from a certain kind of mud.
[23:13] Subsequently, we reproduced him from a tiny drop, that is placed into a well protected repository.
[23:14] Then we developed the drop into a hanging (embryo), then developed the hanging (embryo) into a bite-size (fetus), then created the bite-size (fetus) into bones, then covered the bones with flesh. We thus produce a new creature. Most blessed is God, the best Creator.
[23:15] Then, later on, you die.
[23:16] Then, on the Day of Resurrection, you will be resurrected.
The Seven Universes
[23:17] We created above you seven universes in layers, and we are never unaware of a single creature in them.
Innumerable Blessings From God
[23:18] We send down from the sky water, in exact measure, then we store it in the ground. Certainly, we can let it escape.
[23:19] With it, we produce for you orchards of date palms, grapes, all kinds of fruits, and various foods.
[23:20] Also, a tree native to Sinai produces oil, as well as relish for the eaters.
[23:21] And the livestock should provide you with a lesson. We let you drink (milk) from their bellies, you derive other benefits from them, and some of them you use for food.
[23:22] On them, and on the ships, you ride.
Noah
[23:23] We sent Noah to his people, saying, “O my people, worship God. You have no other God beside Him. Would you not be righteous?”
[23:24] The leaders who disbelieved among his people said, “This is no more than a human like you, who wants to gain prominence among you. Had God willed, He could have sent down angels. We never heard of anything like this from our ancestors.
[23:25] “He is simply a man gone crazy. Just ignore him for awhile.”
[23:26] He said, “My Lord, grant me victory, for they have disbelieved me.”
[23:27] We then inspired him: “Make the watercraft* under our watchful eyes, and in accordance with our inspiration. When our command comes, and the atmosphere boils up, put on it a pair of every kind (of your domesticated animals), and your family, except those condemned to be doomed. Do not speak to Me on behalf of those who transgressed; they will be drowned.
*23:27 The story tellers have created a mockery of Noah’s history. Noah’s ark was a flat watercraft made of logs, tied together with primitive ropes (54:13), the flood was local, around the Dead Sea area, and the animals were Noah’s domesticated animals.
[23:28] “Once you are settled, together with those who are with you, on the watercraft, you shall say, `Praise God for saving us from the evil people.’
[23:29] “And say, `My Lord, let me disembark onto a blessed location; You are the best deliverer.’ ”
[23:30] These should provide sufficient proofs for you. We will certainly put you to the test.
[23:31] Subsequently, we established another generation after them.
[23:32] We sent to them a messenger from among them, saying, “You shall worship God. You have no other God beside Him. Would you not be righteous?”
[23:33] The leaders among his people who disbelieved and rejected the idea of the Hereafter – although we provided for them generously in this life – said, “This is no more than a human being like you. He eats from what you eat, and drinks as you drink.
[23:34] “If you obey a human being like you, then you are really losers.
[23:35] “Does he promise you that, after you die and turn into dust and bones, you will come out again?
[23:36] “Impossible, impossible indeed is what is promised to you.
[23:37] “We only live this life – we live and die – and we will never be resurrected.
[23:38] “He is just a man who fabricated lies and attributed them to God. We will never believe him.”
[23:39] He said, “My Lord, grant me victory, for they have disbelieved me.”
[23:40] He said, “Soon they will be sorry.”
[23:41] The retribution struck them, equitably, and thus, we turned them into ruins. The wicked people perished.
[23:42] Subsequently, we established other generations after them.
[23:43] No community can advance its predetermined fate, nor delay it.
[23:44] Then we sent our messengers in succession. Every time a messenger went to his community, they disbelieved him. Consequently, we annihilated them, one after the other, and made them history. The people who disbelieved have perished.
Moses and Aaron
[23:45] Then we sent Moses and his brother Aaron with our revelations and a profound proof.
[23:46] To Pharaoh and his elders, but they turned arrogant. They were oppressive people.
[23:47] They said, “Shall we believe for two men whose people are our slaves?”
[23:48] They rejected the two, and consequently, they were annihilated.
[23:49] We gave Moses the scripture, that they may be guided.
[23:50] We made the son of Mary and his mother a sign, and we gave them refuge on a mesa with food and drink.
One God/One Religion
[23:51] O you messengers, eat from the good provisions, and work righteousness. I am fully aware of everything you do.
(23:52] Such is your congregation – one congregation – and I am your Lord; you shall reverence Me.
[23:53] But they tore themselves into disputing factions; each party happy with what they have.
[23:54] Therefore, just leave them in their confusion, for awhile.
[23:55] Do they think that, since we provided them with money and children,
[23:56] we must be showering them with blessings? Indeed, they have no idea.
[23:57] Surely, those who are reverently conscious of their Lord,
[23:58] And who believe in the revelations of their Lord,
[23:59] And who never set up any idols beside their Lord,
[23:60] As they give their charities, their hearts are fully reverent. For they recognize that they will be summoned before their Lord,
[23:61] They are eager to do righteous works; they compete in doing them.
The Disbelievers Unappreciative
[23:62] We never burden any soul beyond its means, and we keep a record that utters the truth. No one will suffer injustice.
[23:63] Because their minds are oblivious to this, they commit works that do not conform with this; their works are evil.
[23:64] Then, when we requite their leaders with retribution, they complain.
[23:65] Do not complain now; you have given up all help from us.
[23:66] My proofs have been presented to you, but you turned back on your heels.
[23:67] You were too arrogant to accept them, and you defiantly disregarded them.
[23:68] Why do they not reflect upon this scripture? Do they not realize that they have received something never attained by their ancestors?
[23:69] Have they failed to recognize their messenger? Is this why they are disregarding him?
[23:70] Have they decided that he is crazy? Indeed, he has brought the truth to them, but most of them hate the truth.
[23:71] Indeed, if the truth conformed to their wishes, there would be chaos in the heavens and the earth; everything in them would be corrupted. We have given them their proof, but they are disregarding their proof.
[23:72] Are you asking them for a wage? Your Lord’s wage is far better. He is the best Provider.
[23:73] Most assuredly, you are inviting them to a straight path.
[23:74] Those who disbelieve in the Hereafter will surely deviate from the right path.
[23:75] Even when we showered them with mercy, and relieved their problems, they plunged deeper into transgression, and continued to blunder.
[23:76] Even when we afflicted them with retribution, they never turned to their Lord imploring.
[23:77] Subsequently, when we requited them with the severe retribution they had incurred, they were shocked.
[23:78] He is the One who granted you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brains. Rarely are you appreciative.
[23:79] He is the One who established you on earth, and before Him you will be summoned.
[23:80] He is the One who controls life and death, and He is the One who alternates the night and day. Do you not understand?
[23:81] They said what their ancestors said.
[23:82] They said, “After we die and become dust and bones, we get resurrected?
[23:83] “Such promises were given to us and to our parents in the past. These are no more than tales from the past.”
Most Believers are Destined for Hell*
[23:84] Say, “To whom belongs the earth and everyone on it, if you know?”
*23:84-89 Belief in God is valid only if one recognizes God’s qualities, such as the fact that God controls everything (8:17). Believers who do not know God are not really believers. Most believers nullify their belief by idolizing such powerless idols as the prophets and saints (6:106).
[23:85] They will say, “To God.” Say, “Why then do you not take heed?”
[23:86] Say, “Who is the Lord of the seven universes; the Lord of the great dominion?”
[23:87] They will say, “God.” Say, “Why then do you not turn righteous?”
[23:88] Say, “In whose hand is all sovereignty over all things, and He is the only one who can provide help, but needs no help, if you know?”
[23:89] They will say, “God.” Say, “Where did you go wrong?”
[23:90] We have given them the truth, while they are liars.
[23:91] God has never begotten a son. Nor was there ever any other God beside Him. Otherwise, each God would have declared independence with his creations, and they would have competed with each other for dominance. God be glorified; far above their claims.
[23:92] The Knower of all secrets and declarations; be He exalted, far above having a partner.
[23:93] Say, “My Lord, whether You show me (the retribution) they have incurred
[23:94] “My Lord, let me not be one of the transgressing people.”
[23:95] To show you (the retribution) we have reserved for them is something we can easily do.
[23:96] Therefore, counter their evil works with goodness; we are fully aware of their claims.
To Be Protected From Satan
[23:97] Say, “My Lord, I seek refuge in You from the whispers of the devils.
[23:98] “And I seek refuge in You, my Lord, lest they come near me.”
The Dead Never Come Back Until the Day of Resurrection
[23:99] When death comes to one of them, he says, “My Lord, send me back.
[23:100] “I will then work righteousness in everything I left.” Not true. This is a false claim that he makes. A barrier will separate his soul from this world until resurrection.
[23:101] When the horn is blown, no relations among them will exist on that day, nor will they care about one another.
[23:102] As for those whose weights are heavy, they will be the winners.
[23:103] Those whose weights are light are the ones who lost their souls; they abide in Hell forever.
[23:104] Fire will overwhelm their faces, and they last miserably therein.
[23:105] Were not My revelations recited to you, and you kept on rejecting them?
[23:106] They will say, “Our Lord, our wickedness overwhelmed us, and we were people gone astray.
[23:107] “Our Lord, take us out of this; if we return (to our old behavior), then we are really wicked.”
[23:108] He will say, “Abide therein, humiliated, and do not speak to Me.
They Ridiculed the Believers
[23:109] “A group of My servants used to say, `Our Lord, we have believed, so forgive us and shower us with mercy. Of all the merciful ones, You are the Most Merciful.’
[23:110] “But you mocked and ridiculed them, to the extent that you forgot Me. You used to laugh at them.
[23:111] “I have rewarded them today, in return for their steadfastness, by making them the winners.”
[23:112] He said, “How long have you lasted on earth? How many years?”
23:113] They said, “We lasted a day or part of a day. Ask those who counted.”
[23:114] He said, “In fact, you stayed but a brief interim, if you only knew.
[23:115] “Did you think that we created you in vain; that you were not to be returned to us?”
[23:116] Most exalted is God, the true Sovereign. There is no other God beside Him; the Most Honorable Lord, possessor of all authority.
[23:117] Anyone who idolizes beside God any other God, and without any kind of proof, his reckoning rests with his Lord. The disbelievers never succeed.
[23:118] Say, “My Lord, shower us with forgiveness and mercy. Of all the merciful ones, You are the Most Merciful.”
Please read the Koran and study the beauty of it. Do not waste our time by reading human made book which will push us all apart from the truth. In the Book, it is the final message to human kind. God has bestowed the knowledge upon Prophet Muhammad to deliver to this world as the source of law for all human race. If we love Allah and love Muhammad and his sacrifice, please study and refer to the Koran only as a source of law. After all, Muhammad only brought the Koran, not any other book or kitab.
Thank you so much Tun. I hope to post some more proofs from the Koran from many chapters.
There is no God, except Allah. Far above having any partners.
Praised be to Allah, the Lord of the Universe.
God bless us all.
i’m sad with statement “Muslims are easily mislead”…but its darn true…
Well said, Tun. You write it so simple and yet there are Muslims who just refuse to accept it.
These are the people especially the “political ulamaks” who are inclined to confuse ignorant Muslims for their political objective.
Yang haram boleh jadi halal dan yang halal boleh bertukar jadi haram. Hari ini haram, esok halal. It depends on whether such declaration made by certain ulamak is of benefit to their political goals.
It is happening now in our country,
Salam Kasih dan Sayang
Izinkan,
Typo error..’‘BISILLAHIRRAHANIRRAHIM’ shud read as ‘BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM’… mohon maaf
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Rukun IMAN yang ke-6 adalah ‘Qadho dan Kadak’… antaranya menilai dan menentukan darjat kehendak nafsu dan keimanan setiap orang yang dilahirkan dan dikiamatkan didunia fana’ ini.
Baik dan Buruk nya..
Otak(akal) pula dianugerahkan Allah swt demi pencarian, perancangan, pemilihan dan pergerakan hidup bernafsu setiap umat manusia didunia fana’ dan membina insan (hamba diri) nya yang beriman kepada Allah Subhanahuwataala agar titian ‘sirrotulmustakim’ tiada halangan baginya kembali kepada Yang Maha Pengasih dan Maha Penyayang dialam Syurga…
Wallahualam.
Kami berasa kalau setiap umat Islam sentiasa HIDUP dalam Zat Kalimah ‘BISILLAHIRRAHANIRRAHIM’, perkara #9 yang dinyatakan Ayahanda Tun diatas boleh dicapai…
Insyaallah.
‘PENGGERAK NAFSU ITU ADALAH PENGETAHUAN, PENGGERAK IMAN ITU ADALAH ILMU’.
ALFATIHAH, AMIN
Ps. Bersamalah kita hidup dengan penuh kasih dan sayang dan berilmu pengetahuan.. Aman dan Selamat didunia dan akhirat.
Holy Prophet Muhammad had prophesized that in latter days Islam would be in name only. And at such time a person appointed from God only will revive Islam. So only divine guidance has light. Find more at http://www.alislam.org
Salam Tun
Penyakit tidak mahu melihat 2nd Opinion kini telah merasuk golongan profesional juga. Bila sudah taksub kepada seseorang pemimpin atau parti maka habislah segala pandangan lain tidak akan diambil pakai lagi. Walaupun saya hormati Tun tetapi saya tidak boleh bersetuju dengan semua pandangan Tun tanpa soal siasat semata-mata kerana saya menghormati Tun.
Namun hari ini, golongan cerdik pandai juga hilang akal, sebagaimana mereka hilang akal pada saat DSAI disingkirkan pada 1998. Saya akui, saya juga hilang akal pada 1998 tersebut dan berada di Masjid Negara semasa DSAI mula-mula melaung REFORMASI!
Saya mengambil pendirian bahawa kita sebagai manusia biasa tidak mungkin bebas daripada salah silap apatah lagi bab agama yang telah disampaikan sejak 1400 tahun dahulu. Oleh itu amat penting untuk kita bersabar dahulu dan berfikir dengan waras tanpa prasangka. Kita jangan sama sekali bersikap pilih bulu dengan saudara mara atau rakan separti dalam membuat penilaian kebenaran.
Akhirnya, yang rugi adalah kita sendiri dan ummat kerana tindakan drastik yang bodoh yang kita lakukan hanya menghancurkan kapal yang hampir tenggelam.
sangfikir
Assalamualaikum,
The only way and solution for Muslims around the world to be respected is to go back to the real teaching of Islam. Al-Quran and Hadiths will be the source of our guidance. Al-Quran is just not merely for memorization and tilawah, Muslims should study the tafseer instead reading the translation. Muslims should learn the classical arabic language in order to experience and feel the miracle of Al-Quran. If Al-Quran can transformed the pagan Arabs 1400 years ago, it is not impossible to bring back the glory of Muslim civilisation.
Just put a deaf ear to Dr Syed Alwi …. he doesn’t care about Islam.
Thank you.
I agree with the writer of this article ‘Chedet’ with all items except first item. It is unfortunate that most Muslims DO NOT practice the teachings of The Holy Quran in their daily lives. If they did, they will not be misled by their corrupt political leaders or mullahs.
Practicing true Islam as taught by Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) on one hand, is simple and easy but on the other hand, if a person is un-knowingly influenced by Satan (i.e.; corrupt political leaders and mullahs) then Islam is extremely difficult to follow.
Sometimes, a novice person may not understand some portions of The Holy Quran but if he/she concentrates on it and uses God given abilities, performs commonly known good deeds and prays to Allah for guidance soon he/she will get the correct guidance. There is very little chance that he/she will be misguided by political leaders or corrupt mullahs.
ALL Prophets of God including Prophet Muhammad come with the pure message for the guidance of mankind. Applying their pristine teachings in daily life is not so hard.
Corrupt mullahs, whose daily actions are extremely questionable, are convinced that Prophet Muhammad is the ‘last Prophet’ and no other Prophet is needed after him. Their claim may have had some validity if Muslims had stayed pure and pristine until the Judgment Day, but that is not the case as we witness it daily. So according to Holy Quran Allah will continue to descend Prophets whenever needed because Allah knows best the right time for another follower Prophet, whether mullahs like it or not.
Promised Messiah, who is the perfect reflection of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and a perfect repetition of Son of Mary (peace be upon him) conveys the same simple message. Promised Messiah also said, Prophet Muhammad is the Highest Best Prophet, is the pinnacle of Prophet-hood regardless of how many Prophets Allah may decide to descend to spread his perfect teachings (Holy Quran).
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Saya menetap dan mencari rezeki di Mindanao. Keadaan umat Islam di Mindanao amat menyedihkan. Generasi muda bangsa moro lama kelamaan mula lupa asal usul mereka dan hala tuju mereka. Pemimpin2 Islam tak ambil kisah langsung bagaimana cara nak membangunkan mereka. Orang Islam Mindanao terkenal dengan menculik, merompak dan najis dadah.
Saya rasa bersyukur kerana umat Islam di Malaysia masih lagi kuat dari segi pegangan ugama dan masih lagi mengamalkan adat2 melayu. Terimakasih kepada Tun kerana berjaya mengubah cara pemikiran orang Melayu di Malaysia. Seperti di Mesir , orang2 Mindanao juga bangga pada Tun. Sekali lagi terimakasih Tun.
Tun,
Dr Syed Alwi Ahmad comments hit the ‘nail on the head’.
His Hypothesis points directly to Shariah Law. Shariah
Law is the Crux of Islams’ problems. It is based on Ancient
Arabian Tribalism. Concepts such as beating one’s spouse is
explained as ‘light touches’ by Muslim Apologists whereas a
pragmatist very well knows what that meant in the ‘Prophets’ time. There are thousands of laws that may or may not be linked to the ‘Prophet’ with little or no evidence to that fact. A lot of Shariah is ‘Self Righteous Piety’. How is wearing a Burka or Hijab, praying five times a day etc make one Holier. There are a lot of Good Muslims that don’t wear a Burka/Hijab eg. your Daughter Marina and there are also Bad Muslims that pray five times a day eg. Government Officials from Top to Bottom that take bribes and call it a commission.
In-fact, the closer you get to the Epicenter of Islam. The more
extreme and fanatical Islamist Religious Zealots are.
If Shariah were to be implemented in its fullness around the world. A Centralized Caliphate in Saudi would put to death Malaysian Bomohs who practice an attenuated form of Islam that disagree with their interpretation of Shariah Law rather than to ‘live and let live’. Case in point. A famous TV prognosticator celebrity in Lebanon fell victim to Shariah in Saudi Arabia. He was jailed and sentenced to be beheaded after he set foot in the Islamic Holy-land. You would think that the Saudis who are holders to the ‘Key’ to the Kaabah would be a much more benevolent or compassionate nation but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
Peace Be With You In Jesus Name
Dear Tun,
Hadi Awang through his amanat Haji Hadi says “Saudara-saudara sekelian percayalah, kita menentang UMNO, bukan kerana nama dia UMNO. Kita menentang Barisan Nasional bukan kerana dia lama memerintah kerajaan. Kita menentang dia ialah kerana dia mengekalkan perlembagaan penjajah, mengekalkan undang-undang kafir, mengekalkan peraturan jahiliyah. Oleh kerana itulah kita menentang mereka. Oleh kerana itulah kita menghadapi mereka. Oleh itulah kita cuba berlawan dengan mereka.
Percayalah saudara-saudara sekelian, perjuangan kita adalah jihad, ucapan kita adalah jihad, derma kita adalah jihad. Bergantunglah kita kepada Allah dengan (menghadapi) puak-puak ini kerana kalau kita mati melawan puak-puak ini, mati kita adalah syahid. Mati kita adalah Islam. Kita tidak perlu masuk Buddha, Kita tidak perlu masuk Hindu, Kita tidak perlu masuk Kristian, Tapi kita menjadi kafir dengan mengamalkan ‘politik suku, agama suku”.
Our Malay prophet @ Nik Aziz says in his routine religious lecture “Jika melawan UMNO tiba – tiba meninggal dunia, maka kita dikira mati syahid”.
The above were the true examples our Malays @ Muslims division in Malaysia. It will not going to end unless Nik Aziz & Hadi Awang willing to renounce those declarations. Nevertheless, the damage has been done, it is not easy to elaminate it because its has been slipped into people minds and being pass from generation to generation.
Today Nik Aziz & Hadi Awang could answer its, but we do not know how they going to answer it in afterlife. The magnitude of the offence was huge because it includes many i.e. slander, lying, manipulation of religion for political gain [highest crime], responsibility of subsequence affects i.e. Memali tragedy [to be answerable to the Ibrahim Libya family, caused PAS ulama has declared his death as apostate] and al-maunah [will be answerable to the family of deceased for falsely believing their faught is Jihad], separation of iman & makmum in certain mosques etc.
How do they going to answer it?
Salam Tun dan Malaysia,
Saya yakin selagi ada hayat Allah akan anugerah khudrat kpd Tun utk membawa Melayu dan Islam kembali ke landasan yg sebenar. Perjuangan masih belum selesai, selagi hayat Tun masih ada…
Islam has one main thing that is more prevalent than any other religions – that is faith which must not be questioned.
If an intellectual with kind heart see some interpretation of Islam not proper or against logic or anti progress they wld inevitably feel the need to make a change but ironically not allowed to question thus any action rendered impotent.
On the other hand if an intellectual with bad self interest see opportunity they also can try to manipulate Muslims by giving his own interpretation but this is also prevented by the doctrine of Islam i.e. faith is beyond reasoning thus avoided.
Thus in conclusion Islam (in large scale) will prevent misdeed but at the expense of having positive development prevented as well. Islam is great only if the leader has “exceptionally” great influence, yet kind but firm such as Prophet Muhammad. With prophet no longer lead, the net result we see is Islam civilization neither become backwards towards stone age but nor are we making progress.
In the end, even a Muslim with good conscience dare not comment much, ironically in fear of persecution by fellow Muslims. Islam will rule in democracy no doubt due to the principle of democracy is majority and Muslims has the greatest number, but some day will Muslim brothers fight each other when everyone wants to be Muslim in order to lead?
Semoga Ayahnda Tun sihat walafiat….dan ada pengganti mcm Ayahnda Tun di kalangan generasi muda kita…
Agree.
It commonly known that the generations that lived before us had a much stronger moral foundation that the one we find today. The Bible was used as a guide for all sorts of matters that would be unheard of today. The Good Book was used as reference in such common fields as business, education, and politics. Of course, it would be considered bizarre–or in some cases unlawful–to use the Bible as a manual for daily living.
Most folks spend far too much time assessing the sins of other people. The fact that people are unable to live perfect lives is not really breaking news. Instead of measuring our lives by what hypocrites do, we need to model our lives after the One who set the perfect example.
Dr. M.M.’s statements are very pertinent in this day and age. Over several centuries, many demagogues have risen up in Muslim nations and, to serve their own narrow interests, cleverly imposed their twisted interpretation of Islamic tenets on the naive and ignorant masses. Most gruesome in some regions is the repugnant teaching that those who differ in some religious aspect from the powerful majority are to be put to death. This is in direct contravention of 2:257 (Holy Quran): “There should be no compulsion in religion.” As a result, thousands of lives have been lost in blindly vindictive violence, as in Pakistan and Indonesia.
Leaders in every Muslim community need to wake up and rid their region of fanatical mullahs before their nations implode in chaos. All Muslims of goodwill need to inculcate qualities of humanity within themselves, as was the lifelong goal of the Holy Prophet (Peace …). I have found the site alislam.org to be a treasure-trove of information on true Islam, and recommend it to all.
I wish writers, such as Dr. M. M., great success in the uphill struggle to reform our apathetic attitude toward self-correction and self-improvement!
Salam YAB Tun,
Orang yang suka tuduh orang lain sebagai kafir akhirnya dia pulak jadi macam kafir.
Orang yang suka tuduh orang lain sebagai Fir’aun, akhirnya dia sendiri pulak jadi macam Fir’aun.
Terima kasih kita kepada mereka yang suka tuduh-menuduh ini sebab kita sama-sama dapat saksikan kedustaan kata-kata mereka itu akhirnya.
Mari kita sama-sama kaji sikit sepintas lalu siapakah layak bergelar Fir’aun masa kini dengan menjawab beberapa soalan berikut ini dengan jujur dan ikhlas.
1. Siapa yang memecah belahkan umat dan suka menindas?
2. Siapa yang melakukan kerosakan dengan zalim?
3. Siapa yang membina piramid dengan paksaan?
4, Siapa yang dibantu dan dikelilingi ahli-ahli silap mata?
5. Siapa yang memiliki kekayaan dan megah serta sombong?
6. Siapa yang berkata “O my people, does not the dominian of Malaysia belong to me, these streams flowing underneath me.”
7. Siapa yang menyangka sebagai baik perbuatannya yang buruk?
8. Siapa yang sombong dan termasuk orang-orang yang melampaui batas?
9. Siapa yang mengaku dirinya sebagai tuhan dan tidak mengikut perintah, commited habitual sin, man of sin, rebellious and wicked?
10. Siapa yang menyesatkan pengikut-pengikutnya?
11. Siapa yang sesungguhnya setelah diperlihatkan ayat-ayat Allah semuanya, tetapi masih mendustai dan enggan menerima kebenaran?
12. Siapa yang takut diusir dari bumi ini dan menuduh orang lain sebagai ahli sihir?
13. Siapa yang mengumpulkan manusia diwaktu pagi dan mengatur tipudaya, sambil datang berbaris dan mengatakan, “Beruntunglah orang yang menang hari ini.”?
14. Tukang sihir siapakah agaknya yang kemudian bersujud dan berkata kami beriman dan kami tidak menghurmati kamu lagi atas apa telah datangi kami dari bukti-bukti yang nyata… ?
15. Siapa yang membunuh anak-anak lelaki (tikam belakang) dan membiarkan anak-anak perempuannya hidup (hingga jadi pemimpin)?
16. Siapa yang tenggelam dalam lautan (manusia) akhirnya (sampai masuk wad kerana kena pijak)?
17. Siapa yang menerima 9 ayat-ayat seperti berikut tetapi berkata semuanya sihir yang nyata:-
i. The rod (1 Malaysia)
ii. The Radian Hand (Kuasa Raja suruh ‘Stop’ demo)
iii. The years of draught (Berbagai malapetaka)
iv. Short crops (Krisis kewangan)
v. Epidemic among men and beast (Huru-hara)
vi. Locusts (Kerugian)
vii. Lice (Serabut kepala)
viii. Frog (Lompat parti)
ix. Water turning to blood (Pencemaran)
Lain-lain soalan seumpamanya tolong cari, baca dan selidiklah sendiri.
Wassalam.
Dear Tun,
I fully agree and support your views from point 1 to point 10. It is not to flatter my ego, I would say your posting this time concurs perfectly with my understanding. Tun and I are at the same level on this issue. We are moderate, thoughtful and reasonable muslims.
Every point you laid out, I could strengthen it with additional examples. For example, there are at least two versions of where and by whom Saidina Uthman ibni Affan was murdered. One version said he was murdered by Mohammad bin Abu Bakar and several of his companions at masjid Nabawi. Another version had it that two companions of Mohammad Abu Bakar stabbed Uthman in his house. Mohammad only wanted to do it but could not make himself to do it, thinking of his father, saidina Abu Bakar. Wallahualam.
amin tan
Dear sir,
When religion is institutionalized , it becomes a bureaucracy. In Malaysia its the same. All the government religious institution are there to canvas votes for the ruling party.
Look at the Friday sermons when Bersih rally was called for. So what were you expecting?
Look at the plight of Divorced Muslim Women who treated like 2nd class citizens. How the Islamic laws are formulated in each Malaysian states? Some are more equal than others. Furthermore religious diversity in Malaysia is prohibited.
salam tun…
Dah tertulis semua ni dalam al-Quran Tun. Selagi manusia kepala batu selagi tu lah makin banyak kesilapan akan dibuat..
Dearest Tun
1-I agree totally with you on this topic.If Islam is a defective religion not suitable for governance of nations how come the Abbasids were able to deliver an awesome Golden age before.Islam only began to show problem after the fall of the Abbasids to the Mongols in the 13th century AD with the start of the second rise when the displaced Abbasid rulers took over Anatolia and established the Ottoman empire over the centre of the Eastern Christian Roman empire,Constantinople.
2-This time around the ‘Ulamaks’ have begun to play a major role in advising the rulers in running the Muslim Empire.The ‘Ulamaks ‘ have attributed the failure of the original Islamic civilization at Baghdad due to over emphasis of materialism as a result of which Muslims although significant in nos being professed by the entire Middle East all the way from Northern Africa to Persia they are nontheless no longer feared by their opponents because they seem to have suffered that disease called ‘ar-wan’,that is ‘ cinta dunia and takut mati.’This predicament seemed to have been foretold by the Prophet SAW some 700 years before.
3-To be strong again the ‘Ulamaks’ suggested the Muslims to go back to the ways of the Prophet SAW and the early caliphates when they were spiritually strong although they were still materially poor.Towards that end the ‘ulamaks’ began to differentiate between spiritual matters and materialistic matters and treated the former as Islamic and the latter as secular.Because of these interpretations many Muslim scientists and scholars who have come in big numbers from all over The Mongol occupied Muslim territories hoping to revive the Islamic civilization only to become totally disappointed.These people were not only not welcomed they were also subjected to abuse , considered as secular and not Islamic.Many of them later defected to Europe where their brains were very much needed to fuel the scientific revolution that was rapidly taking place.
4-A similar trend also happened to the Mogul Empire where there were not much scientific development taking place as compared as what happen during the Golden Age.Their strength was only physical and supported with whatever technology that was already known to the Muslim World then.While the whole world was still also in the dark these new Muslim civilizations were slightly over the edge but eventually the Christian West/the rest began to overwhelm as the Muslims stagnated and eventually crumbled.
5-It is crystal clear now that without secular knowledge and with just spirituality the Muslims were not strong at all.The key to our success now and the future is the balance of Dunia and Aqirat as Islam has always emphasized.There is no such thing as a secular knowledge or spiritual knowledge in Islam.Imam al Ghazali has correctly mentioned that all knowledge that contribute to the well being of the Ummah is Fardhu Kifayah hence Islamic and it was this edict that fuelled the golden Age. The fall of the Muslims during that time was just a normal trend in all civilizations as nothing in this world would last forever. When we become so successful we have other people who are jealous of us or desire our wealth.These people,the Mongols, being poor and deprived people surely will have more motivation to win a war compared to a people prosperous and surely not so motivated to die.This is no reason to shun materialism.We should just work harder to strengthen our defences.
6-It is about time for the Muslim nations to not allow self serving religious authorities to hijack Islam and interpret it as they like.Islam is too big for anyone to be an ‘ Ulamak’ in.Let us Muslims do whatever we feel is right immaterial what the ‘Ulamaks’ think is right or not because in reality they themselves are confused or purposely misleading the masses for the love of the adulation and power they are receiving from the ignorant masses.
7-We will only be on our way towards progress the day we start treating the ‘ulamaks’ as just some religious authority that should confine themselves to the pondoks and madrasahs or wherever else they belong only and not pretend that they are such experts in the running of nations. They are not.Especially not in the 21st Century.
Thanks Tun
Dear Tun,
I agree with you and muslims should also read hadiths to know and learn more abt islam. Most muslims tries to understand Allah but they forget that Nabi Muhammad is who we should emulate. We can never reach the level of godliness…that is why Nabi Muhammad was sent to us.
I share your disappointment Tun. Whats happening now is really sad. Take care both Tuns and be happy to know that you have done and completed your amanah properly and with excellence.
Penumpang Khek ini dah keliru, Tun. Datuk Ibrahim Ali baru-baru kata Kristian itu musuh and berhasrat niat jahat. Tak beberapa lama dahulu Tun juga mengesyor buku ‘The Protocols of the Elders’. Kristian dan Yahudi itu masih kafir, Tun?
AsSalammualaikum Tun Dr.,
Islam dah lengkap, yg tak lengkap penganutnya.
tq
Yeap, many Muslim countries are not governed by “good & great” Muslim leaders. Mary Arabs countries have a great financial strength but still cannot be a developed countries. The rulers and the leaders have no intention to upholds the Al-Quran and as-Sunnah, so what do we expect Allah to give in return?
Assalamualaikum,
Dear Tun Mahathir,
I want to add another point. The devil lies in the details Tun. The UMNO interpretation of Islam is not the only interpretation of Islam. Obviously there is also a PAS interpretation of Islam.
There is no one single interpretation of Islam that monopolises truth. Malaysia itself is divided over this.
How do you implement the Syariah in Malaysia ? Obviously that is a very divisive question isn’t it ?
Wassalam
Dr Syed Alwi Bin Ahmad (Alsree)
Assalamualaikum,
Dear Tun Mahathir,
Just to add on this note – even YOUR own interpretation of Islam is rejected by many in Malaysia ! So you see – the problem here is that – whose interpretation or implementation – of Islam do we Muslims follow ?
To put down PAS as charlatans – is a gross oversimplification.
The truth is – neither you nor me nor anyone else – knows how to implement Islam in today’s world.
Wassalam
Dr Syed Alwi Bin Ahmad (Alsree)
assalamualaikum tun,
saya pernah bertanya pada arwah ustaz yang saya belajar dahulu mengenai 73 golongan Islam di akhir zaman;di mana 72 golongan akan masuk neraka sementara 1 sahaja yang akan masuk syurga.jawaban yang diberikan oleh arwah ustaz saya itu ialah semua 73 golongan akan masuk syurga selagi mereka mengaku dan mengucap syahadah; cuma katanya satu golongan akan terus ke syurga sementara yang 72 lagi akan “singgah” ke neraka dahulu.wallahu a’lam.
Orang yang berjaya di dalam dunia ialah mereka yang apabila mereka mati,mereka mati dengan kalimah “La ila ha il lallah”.
TAKBIR!!!!!!!
Assalamualaikum,
Dear Tun Mahathir,
You claim that what we practice is no longer the “original” Islam. Well – that itself is open to dispute and criticism. I believe very strongly – that Islam is in dire need of a re-interpretation. The context of the 10th century Middle East no longer exists. The Muslim world needs to adapt to the challenges of a 21st century global village.
So – yes – I think that the Syariah of Islam needs a re-interpretation too. Just like what you once said ! Without which – Muslim countries have a tough time adapting to modern challenges. Including – obviously – Malaysia !
I am sure that UMNO is NOT willing to enforce Hudud for example.
Wassalam
Dr Syed Alwi Bin Ahmad (Alsree)
Salam Tun,
satu penjelasan yang ringkas tetapi mempunyai makna yang dalam..
ISLAM MENDIDIK MANUSIA MENJADI MANUSIA DAN PEMIMPIN TETAPI MANUSIA YANG MENDIDIK MANUSIA LAIN MENJADI INSAN. JADI jangan salahkan ISLAM.
Jikalau manusia sedar dan faham dengan ISLAM yang sebenar, pasti negara Islam yang terbaik dapat didirikan, TUN adalah salah seorang pemimpin yang faham ISLAM dan membentuk negara ini dengan berjaya.
Kenapa perlu kita lihat seseorang pemimpin itu dengan IMEJ ISLAM dengan merujuk pemakaian dari timur tengah atau pakaian seperti rasullulah sahaja untuk dikategorikan sebagai pemimpin ISLAM. Sedangkan IMEJ ISLAM itu bukan sekadar berserban dan berjubah….ia lebih dari itu.
KEGAGALAN PEMIMPIN ISLAM MENTADBIR NEGARA ADALAH KERANA SIKAP DAN SIFAT MEREKA. TERLALU JUMUD DENGAN IMEJ, SEMPIT PADA PANDANGAN KEDUNIAAN, TERLALU TAKSUB PADA HUKUM MENYEBABKAN MEREKA TIDAK DAPAT BERFIKIR DILUAR PEMIKIRAN KEPERLUAN MANUSIA..
KADANG KALA BILA TERLALU MENGIKUT PANDANGAN ULAMA DENGAN ANDAIAN BAHAWA ULAMA ITU SEMUANYA BETUL, MENYEBABKAN MEREKA LUPA BAHAWA ASAS UTAMA PEMIKIRAN DAN PANDANGAN MEREKA ADALAH PADA AL QURAN DAN HADIS RASULLULAH…BUKAN PADA ULAMA SEMATA-MATA.
KADANGKALA PEMIMPIN ISLAM SEKARANG TIDAK MEMPUNYAI JIWA DAN NILAI ISLAM YANG KUKUH, SEKADAR PEMAHAMAN TENTANG ISLAM SEMATA.
JIWA DAN PEMBENTUKAN NILAI INI PERLU DENGAN MEMAHAMI ILMU KETUHANAN DAN KEROHANIAN BARULAH SEMPURNA SIKAP PEMIMPIN ITU, MEMIMPIN DENGAN SIKAP DAN JIWA TERPIMPIN.
SEKADAR PANDANGAN,