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US soldier agrees to plea deal in Iraqi killings
1. A US soldier killed 24 Iraqi civilians, men, women, and children and was charged for manslaughter before a US military court.
2. US law allows for plea bargaining between the prosecutors and the accused person. Through this the soldier agreed that he would plead guilty if the charge is changed from manslaughter to dereliction of duty.
3. He was then sentenced by the court to reduction in rank to private, pay cut by two-thirds and three months jail.
4. We don’t have provision for plea bargaining in our laws. When Anwar’s Government takes over he will make our laws more modern, not so lapok(archaic) as they are now. Then those accused can bargain and the charge of whatever can be reduced so the accused can plead guilty to a lesser charge.
5. Just think, you kill 24 innocent Iraqis and get three months jail. That is justice.
Dear Tun,
Transparency is essential for justice to be prevailed huh? If so, there should be a permanent law and sentences for the deliberately-acting military with the purpose of genocide… This isn’t only a massacre but a true tale that tells worldwide community on their atrocity upon certain community particularly the Iraqis. The melody of logic only sounds when there’s more than meets the eye..
Dear Dr. Mahathir Mohamad
Salam Hormat
Step By Step A Peacekeeper Muslim
(with peace comes justice)
12 February 2012 Last updated at 15:03 GMT
Syria unrest: Arab League observer mission head quits
The head of the suspended Arab League observer mission to Syria has resigned as League foreign ministers meet to decide their next move in the crisis.
League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi told its members they had to move quickly to end the “vicious cycle of violence” in Syria.
The League is expected to approve Jordan ex-Foreign Minister Abdul-Illah al-Khatib as special envoy to Syria.
Meanwhile, al-Qaeda’s leader has backed the Syrian uprising.
In a video message, Ayman al-Zawahiri told the opposition not to rely on the West or Arab countries for support…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17001032
One wonders what Dr. Mahathir would think of an elite force
from Malaysia and based in a Madinah surburb – the Malay Kampung Madinah. How would Malaysia assist the peacekeepers from OIC and UN in the Middle-East?
Sekian
Dear Tun,
May I address Mr juks,
Mr juks, you said
“Amin
Yes, I am grateful indeed. We all live in harmony and peace. I had a great childhood filled with good memories of Msia. It will always be home for me. However, these are the things that worry me. Stats, indexes and studies worry me deeply. NOT what I see. I have never seen poor in KL. But once I get into Perak for example, you really see what poor means. Hence, it is not fair for me to equate Msia as KL alone. I have friends who are proper katak di bawah tempurung. They haev the same mindset as you do. Look around us in Bangsar. Mana ada corruption. Everything so peaceful. Ppl shopping and buying luxury goods like there is no tmr. Mercedes Benz and BMW all over on the streets. THIS IS NOT MALAYSIA!!!! Damansara Heights is not MALAYSIA! For a so called older gentleman, I would expect you to have seen more by now.”
You want to look for poverty, please look else where, not in Malaysia. Malaysia is the country of affluence, bounty and prosperity for people seeking fortune and employment from Indonesia, Bangladesh, Nepal, Vietnam. Malaysia is the modern version of El Dorado. There are now 2 millions foreign workers in Malaysia and another 1,3 illegal workers. You people are so gullible to ape or parrot the opposition to bad mouth and defame our beloved Motherland. Don’t be traitors like the sour grape Opposition. Be loyal and patriotic, support the government of the day, democratically elected, like uncle amin tan supporting Barisan National.
amin tan
Amin,
Yes, I am grateful indeed. We all live in harmony and peace. I had a great childhood filled with good memories of Msia. It will always be home for me. However, these are the things that worry me. Stats, indexes and studies worry me deeply. NOT what I see. I have never seen poor in KL. But once I get into Perak for example, you really see what poor means. Hence, it is not fair for me to equate Msia as KL alone. I have friends who are proper katak di bawah tempurung. They haev the same mindset as you do. Look around us in Bangsar. Mana ada corruption. Everything so peaceful. Ppl shopping and buying luxury goods like there is no tmr. Mercedes Benz and BMW all over on the streets. THIS IS NOT MALAYSIA!!!! Damansara Heights is not MALAYSIA! For a so called older gentleman, I would expect you to have seen more by now.
Dear Tun M,
Respectfully, I do hope that I am given the same equal treatment and respect as you give others who nod constantly. We are all different minded ppl and would like to discuss openly. However, when one starts getting personal with unecessary remarks, that is when the line is drawn. I know sir you believe that respect is always given priority on the elder`s side. However, in my upbringing now, I believe that respect is a two way street. Hence, you choose to allow Encik Sudin to continue berating me in his comments as he is older. However, you choose to moderate my comments as I am younger. If I re-used words used by him against him, is that a fairer approach in your opinion? DAPig? MORON? IDIOT?
The reason I come back everyday is not to change minds. But to engage and understand why ppl think a certain way. I would have gone a long time ago due to the hostility being thrown my way. However, I am persitent and will not tolerate being attacked personally. When you nothing else to add or say, yea resort to personal attacks. All I ask for is the same respect that you have shown them in return. I may be younger and seem like I deserve less. However, please treat others and you would like to be treated in return. If a 90 year old man said something nasty to you, I am sure you would lose respect for them as well. Thank you.
Amin,
Referring back to point 1. Cant disagree with you there. Spot on. I have never seen corruption with my own eyes before. Live in damansara or bangsar area everything seems like a breeze. Have you not been stopped by a cop before ? Very well, they never initiate bribes. BUT citizens do and they take it nonetheless because of low pay. Fine, we can justify all we want or blame both parties. Fact is, it happens, and it is not uncommon. Now in regards to perception, can Tun M please comment on that. Thing is Amin, this were his words. Now, if I pull out that quote from somewhere, what then? It seems that he has everyones attention with ppl nodding constantly. Hence, his words which I agree with as well. I have given the basic limitation of perception in terms of influence epsc media and internet. It also could be the opposition fuelling ppl`s minds with corruption. Irrespective, the index is not accurate in measuring over a span of a few years. However, comparatively, it is somewhat used worldwide I believe. So, yea. Compare with China? Yeah lets start comparing with third world countries. No wait, we are one and we should compare apple to apple more often. At least then, we can hold our head up higher. I should only bring up our country when speaking with Somalies. Otherwise, malu man. If I say Msia is better than Hong Kong, ppl from HK will think I am illiterate. Info is free flowing today. You cant spew that kind of garbage. Honestly, Amin you may not feel embarrased of Msia. The reason South East Asia still suffers from inferiority is an issue. Western ppl still feel superior. Now I know that is superficial nonsense. You should have a debate with citizens from develop countries. You clearly still think that black and white facts remain that Msia is better. I have seen an Indian guy argue that India is better than Britain. Trust me, start digging on facts. That will shut him up. That is a first. I was once naive to believe that until I lived in diff countries. Now, dont go on spewing your own version that I hate Msia. FFs, I cant stress enough that lets be open and discuss it openly.
However, we cannot ignore the fact that we are still somewhat well behind. I have met friends from India who have not seen things before in India as it is still somewhat backwards. Economically booming yea, but they have so much left to work on. British ppl think India is filled with poverty, but of course due to a high disparity between the rich and poor, the ones living here are all extremely wealthy.
Msia is not Subang Jaya alone. You lived there all your life. Once I left the country, I stopped thinking of Msia as KL. There is relative poverty still in Msia. Not from where I come from or see on a daily basis. Is that just Msia? Thats why we start looking at factual information and statistics. Now on the study of perception, how come only the ppl chosen thought corruption was high? These ppl were civil servants, analyst, banks themselves and a few others. Now please dont tell me all of them are Pakatan Rakyat members. That will be the joke of the century.
Sudin,
I love you comments on contract. Boy how do I wish to see the day that contract gets annulled or re-addressed. You would have a fit and a heart attack wont you. Better grab as much as you can for now. Better yet, keep asking the govn for more. Thing is, govn can only do so much. At the end of the like any other country, the private sector will rule and run the country. Govn can keep supporting you guys as long as possible. And the pvt sector will keep going with its own ethnic minorites. Malaysia Boleh spirit. And one last thing, it is no secret here in the UK that majority Malay students are here on scholarship merely NOT just because of merit. I have friends who have asked me and I will not lie. Just because of your color, you are one up against everyone else. Disgusting and shameless indeed. Some walk around in pride that regardless of merit, dapat B in Biology also can come abroad with full scholarship for medicine. The odesity to even take it is beyond me. So yea, lets start looking at words like no pride, no honor, no merit, just colour. Malays do love their free gifts. And please, what has chinese ppl rampas from you? We have to work day and night for everything that we have. Then of course success comes with jealousy. You say things like rampas harta and all sorts. At least some of the Malays here on scholarship admit that the govn system is messed up although they have taken the scholarships. They still believe that a chinese or Indian with excellent merit should be given a chance too. Not ppl like you Encik Sudin, would you leave the country if the system is changed> No more freebie for anak and cucu. Time to step into the real world of free discrimination and compete with others on merit. NOT COLOR!!!! What a country we live in huh.
Dear Tun,
May I exchange views with Mr juks,
Mr juks,
You invoked no less a personality than Tun himself in order to intimidate me into agreeing with your argument. But your argument is based on perception which is subjective and let me prove to you my argument is based on facts on the ground and you can verify it for yourself.
1. Singapore is a very small country and they have only Orchard Road to show. Anyone the like of you or Joshua lopez would be declared enemy of the state and most likely bundled off by the fierce no nonsense police who carries a pistol, handcuff and a baton that can be extended at a jerk. Most opposition of any standing are sued into bankruptcy for unsubstantiated defamation against PAP leadership. Things are expensive in Singapore as compared to Subang Jaya where I live. The famous Mustafa Centre a simple T shirt cost a minimum of s10 dollar. You can get similar T shirt for rm5 at pasar malam or Mydin store here. Same thing in England, you cannot find any T shirt or trousers less than 5 pounds even at Primart or charity shops.
Singapore, England or Subang Jaya are corruption free. Nobody stops you by the road side and demand bribery. Whereas I have relatives and close friends here in Subang Jaya who care. In Singapore and England, everyone is for himself.
2. Hong Kong is not a country. You should pick China, the country of imitation goods, relentless rat race, ruthlessness and double crossings.
3. You, Joshua Lopez and I should thank our lucky stars and be grateful that we are born and bred as Malaysians where we have plenty of sunshine and occasional rainbows, in a Muslim country.
amin tan
Oh one more thing Encik Amin,
Respectfully, I recall our Tun M himself saying that ppl`s perception are incredibly important. It is not just important to be clean on the inside. It is also absolutely essential that one potrays himself clean in the public light. In politics, it is a mix of both. So, please if corruption is really low and we should be in the top 10 amongst Singapore and Hong Kong, then clearly the govn is really messing up as they are not potraying themselves in a clean light. Also, the govnment is clearly not doing a good job in terms of changing ppl`s perception. Tun M quote really resonates with me as I believe its important as a public figure to worry about being clean and also worry about ppl`s perception. Look at politics, many times it is about how they potray themselves and public perception> We may never know their full intentions whether it is about coming into power or really trying to serve ppl. Thats why its called POLITICS!!! I thought you have eaten more rice to see that the world or Msia is not sunshine and rainbows as you potray.
Where do you think Msia should be ranked ideally based on your perceptions? If a CPI study was conducted for you, out of 10, sir could you kindly place us anywhere near Singapore and Hong Kong?
Dear Amin,
Firstly, I am glad that you have taken the time to read about CPI. I guess this is your first time hearing about CPI, so called deemed the most used index for corruption. As corruption is of qualitative measurement, it can never be entirely accurate. Transparency International believes however that the most accurate form is to measure based on perception. Funny how you said ppl are biased. Arent the BN govn in power? Majority right. Ppl should be more inclined perhaps to believe that the govn is clean because they support BN. So why the is the index still high? Again, based on its methodology, they say that perception is dangerous as it can be manipulated. Take our country for example, media loves the govn. They paint them and all ministers in a good light. Why is it then still high despite media influencing ppl`s perception?
Not enough brain washing? Or wait, maybe opposition paid Transparency International. Amin, these are questions you need to ask before reaching a conclusion. How then do we measure corruption based on your knowledge? I am still young and wasnt really too sure on the meaning of perception. Do forgive.
Oh yea, our fav uncle chua soi lek….Good things indeed. He is of such good example. That is one for the story books espc his performance in the video. A married man with three children cheating. Islam is quite forgiving eh? or to only those whom they like? Wow, why would you bring him up in the first place? Shot yourself in the foot again. Look, I dont want to learn from a man who cheats on his wife and kids. I dont want to spread things like that to my foreign friends either that the man ppl used to vote for espc in MCA is a cheater.
Do you tell your kids bedtime stories about Uncle Chua Soi Lek? When you cant even have some basic sense of respect for your wife and family, dont expect to be called a leader of MCA. I wonder how many Msians are thinking of Uncle Chua, wow at least he admitted. Nevermind lah. His wife and kids will prolly forgive him. You can also say that is his private life and it is none of our business. BUT when you are in the public eye leading the country, it is our damn business. So please, dont bring his name up again unless you think there is something indeed to be proud off. I should let ppl in Britain know then what on earth is going on. Ppl complain about how overseas media is extremely biased. The only news they are interested in reporting about Msia is on sex scandals. Sex tape, sodomy, more tapes and such. In the first place, if there was none to report on, there wouldnt be any biased news to tell.
Thanks for the good laugh though. Just curious Encik Amin, I believe that you mentioned you have kids? Out of curiosity, I know you are debating on something that you believe in. I salute you as I am passionate about what I believe in myself as well. Would you honestly tell your kids look at that man Uncle Chua, as an example? Please be real and honest. He has done good for the country, I wont doubt that. But please, there are some things in life where there is no turning back. Cheating is one of them which I think Islam is not necessary fond of either. You may say that I have no religious beliefs. Well, my personal belief is that it is messed up and shouldnt be condoned. Why is this guy still in the media talking and acting like he knows all. If he has no basic sense of pride and care for his family, anything that comes out from him is just pure hot air.
Oh juks.
1. if people are not contributing, but always asking..its just like parasite. dont be one of them.
2. contribution to the country so far? paying taxes? based on the answer.. NO..
3. Hentam kerajaan? oh yes. favourite.
Frankly, i love negara Islam and i dont support democracy.
oh.. cuba curi tempat orang tak pe…tamak tak pe… tapi kalu kita amik sikit hak kiter and pass to other people yang selebihnyer.. we are living in the cave??? good philosophy you have there juks.
i better live in the cave than becoming a people like you juks. period.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to address Mr juks.
Dear Mr juks
I have read your attachment about CPI. CPI is Corruption Perception Index. Perception means one’s idea or imagination of something which may not necessarily be true. So somebody who is so biased against the government of Malaysia perceives Malaysia to be a corrupted country. It is not factual at all. It is only perception or imagination which may be highly distorted and manipulated to suit one’s own vested interest. Innocent and over zealous youth like Mr juks start using CPI without fully understanding the meaning nor the sinister and evil motive of issuing the CPI. Next time please check Oxford English Dictionary first. Don’t be lazy and take the easy away out. It can be costly and damaging to your reputation. Don’t be like a stubborn donkey persistent in pursuing a weak case like Anwar Ibrahim dragging the whole nation through dirt and mud. Learn from Uncle Chua Soi Lek, immediately owned up and admitted mistake and repented. I salute Dr Chua Soi Lek, a humble yet such a giant of a man, befitting his position as the President of MCA, a well respected and reputable political party in Malaysia. The Chinese people in Malaysia are the sensible lot. They would surely vote for MCA, a senior partner in the Barisan National because being businessmen and business owners, the Chinese value peace and prosperity, not anarchy and street demonstration as perpetuated by the lawless Opposition.
amin tan
Cherry,
I have said time and time and again. Credit is given when it is due.Let me list down some of the things that BN has been great with.
They are open and moving towards a more liberal govn. Finally they are listening to the ppl in some way. Take the ISA and EO. The abolishment was a huge step for all Msians and I am extremely proud to tell my foreign friends that we no longer practice that. Take the ETP, helping people in need. Again, it is amazing that we continue to help ppl in need. Price of fuel remains one of the lowest or second lowest in ASEAN region. It has obvs gone up but taking comparison into how much oil price per barrel has increased, the govn still keeps it at a steady pace. So yea, the list goes on in terms of what the BN govn has done for us. Even the assembly bill and AUKU is being ammended, the govn is actually looking into it. These things take time, but my point is, they are listening. I have never brought up irrelevant issues such as Rosmah`s spending without evidence or hearsay. But when I bring up corruption, the index speaks for itself. So tell me what lies have I brought up about corruption? Did I say it is as bad as Somalia? Are we the worst? NO! But Im saying lets address it. Why have we slipped down the rankings? Thing is, you are obv not interested in questioning it. I am! Is that wrong? Ungrateful now?
And for the last time, Please stop talking about respect and politeness. It is a two way street. If you cant understand that, then you clearly had a different upbringing which is no different to an authoritarian ruling. Just listen, I am right, because I am older or I am a leader. You can always learn something new or try and see someone`s perspective even if he is a garbage cleaner or a kid from secondary school. I have agreed with many things being said here, In fact the stats that Encik Sudin brought up was interesting and alarming. But instead of having you talk about something tangible, you keep bringing up things like ungrateful, leave the country, give up your citizenship. Real smart =) Im beginning to feel more at home in Msia. Is this what you teach your children as well? Make sure the chinaman does not question our ruling and authority. OR else, you better set him straight in his place. What a country we live in today huh>
Cherry,
Learn how to respect others??? If an old man believes that respect cant be given to a younger person, then to hell with that. I came from an upbringing that respect is a two way street. I dont care if you have eaten more rice than me. The minute you start insulting others and getting personal, you end any sort of meaningful engagement. Then, we have ppl like you, of course sidelining others because our views are different. Please kindly refer back to Sudin and Tuntuah`s comments. Yeah, real respectful. DAPig and worm in brains. WOW, what do their kids think of that? They are prolly passing down that mentality to their kids as well. DAPig!!! Real sweet.
And on your comment on majority, be careful there. This is a numbers game now and I guess its not about who is right or wrong. If the opposition takes over, what would you do? Again, be careful in what you say. If you talk about majority, and Pakatan takes government, I wanna see you quit rumbling because you are minority. Yet again, the same mentality of discrimination. I have no problems with you sounding off. But again, when you speak of things like majority and minority, the tables could turn. Not a very smart thing to say now huh. That would be awesome though, once you become minority. I love the practice of discrimination. It is quite fun issnt it? You say something, then 10 others come to your defence because you are so called majority.
Less talk from now on.
I hope Tun M will allow me to post some links and evidence to support my lies. I am an empty milo tin. Right, So according to the world today, corruption is measured through CPI. Just to educate others on my lies, I was lying about corruption in Msia. It is not as bad as Somalia. We are still quite good in Asean. So, civil servants keep it up. Well done. We continue to slip in ranking, despite MACC.
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/political-news/197114-malaysia-slips-in-transparency-intl-corruption-perceptions-index.html
http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/
Spread the lies people. Remember, we are not as bad Somalia. So, dont worry too much. Thank you. Up next will be on studies conducted by amnesty international.
Dear Hajar,
Is that all you people have here? Gratefulness? I bring up facts from websites and you have nothing to say but keep bringing up issues like you are ungrateful? Leave the country?
WELL, let me state this here that I will not leave my country. I love it and see it crumbling in a mess. The truth is Hajar, my dear, ppl here say things about the chinese and bring up the constitution and such. It is your pendatangs which contributed so much to Msia`s economy. Money then goes to the welfare of the Malay. I sit here and think even if I wanted my own money to go to another poor chinese student, it wouldnt happen. So that is discrimination. No one here has admitted that. Once you do, the discussion ends. It is a black and white situation. You either practice it or you dont. Ok, my turn to practice the word ungrateful now.
You Malays have taken so much from the Chinese and Indians. Yet, you show no sign of being grateful whenver others question. You shamelessly dictate the constitution and such. Not a single sign of empathy or gratefulness for chinese ppl who continue to support the poor malays. THEN, the icing is when a chinese brings it up, you ask us to leave. MY DEAR, if we left, who is going to support the Malays. Now, this is based on pure economics. PLease ask Tun M yourself. So how are you being grateful then? You look at our twin towers and economic developments. Do you think Malay kampung ppl contributed to it? Now, I have never ever stated these things out loudly for fear that it may hurt. But you ppl have no disregard for others. So yea, what was that malay, saying sapa makan cili rase pedas. If I have to hear the word pendatang again, I will keep raising the word ungratefulness from the part of the locals.
Please dont use the word ungrateful if you dont know what it means. You are continuing to sound more like BN. No wait, you do support them dont you. Be grateful and please vote for BN again. That is their punchline.
Oh Hajar,
That was the icing on top of the cake. You had to state yourself as a Malay so called paying taxes. Please stop claiming? Perhaps you should ask your fav idol Tun M himself. To quote him, ’90 percent of taxes come from the chinese’. We need to keep helping the Malays. NOT JUST THE POOR. But also the rich and middle income to give them some social standing. So that the Malay when standing together with a Chinese can hold his head up high. I didnt make this stuff up. Go ask Tun yourself. Better yet, I will try and find that interview for you.
Haha, I clearly hit a nerve there didnt I? See, I wont leave. And if this is your way of gratefulness, lets think about happy times. THAT IS WHY MALAY ARE STILL LAGGING BEHIND!. Sorry to say that. It is that mindset, let us be grateful. Where is the drive to succeed further. Where is the drive to be better? Tun M said his biggest failure as Prime Minister was that he was unable to help the Malays enough. He tried and did his best on every policy to help the Malays. BUT guess what, he wasnt close to succeeding> He tried speaking to them, telling them to change their mindsets. And Hajar, you may be well off perhaps and have a drive in life to succeed, but your point of being grateful is irrelevant. IF my thoughts are baseless and ignorant, then I am wrong. it has nothing to do with being grateful. Grateful is a term I chose to use when the country is gaining steadily. We are at a slump. Nothing to be grateful about.
Sorry Encik Amin,
Thanks for exchanging your views. But you cant seem to just stick to facts and seem to be more concerned about my views on Msia. In terms of corruption, dahlah. Sorry for bringing it up again. I have been really misguided trusting the corruption perceived index. Its just the next time someone brings that up, I will say I spoke to a guy called Amin Tan, and he says that its irrelevant. Majority of police custody deaths are due to drug addicts. So, the cases like Teoh Beng Hock and kugan were all drug addicts. Its called desperate for drugs and they resort to all sorts.
juks, pak pandir08, etc;
What is wrong with you people?
If you think the judge is wrong, you hentam Tun M and/or government ask them to answer to you .
If you think the police is wrong,you hentam Tun M and/or government ask them to answer to you .
If you think somebody swindled some money,you hentam Tun M and/or government ask them to answer to you.
If you think it is raining heavily, you hentam Tun M and/or government and ask them to answer to you.
If you think something bad has happened (whether it really happened or not OR whether there is evidence or not), you hentam Tun M and/or government and ask them to answer to you.
If you think Anwar is an angel, you hentam Tun M and/or government and ask them to answer to you.
If you think someone is a billionaire, you hentam Tun M and/or government and ask them to answer to you.
If you do not like the courts verdict, you hentam Tun M and/or government and ask them to answer to you.
If you are not happy with your life, you hentam Tun M and/or government and ask them to answer to you.
You people are called the “noisy minority” because you are defeated by us the”majority people” so just to let you know that barking here has no use at all……bark somewhere else bcoz the Government Policy is here to stay.
Whether you like what you see now does not matter as long as we “the majority” are here to support the present government.
Go and ask for help from Anwar Gay. He can help you whether it is from left, right, front or back.
juks,
do you have any proof that the police has not done what they are supposed to do? Do they have to give you every bit of their investigation and findings to satisfy you? How old are you anyway, kid?
You really like to use the words like “idiot” and “fool”. Do you think you are very smart? Do you think you know everything that you are trying to “teach” Tun M and others here? Who do you think you are? You are abroad and is not capable of contributing to the society here like we do. We help our fellow Malaysians here by actually being here.
Learn how to respect others. You will be surprised that there are many here who are smarter and experienced than you. There are many here who are very polite. Maybe you have not been brought up that way or had a very sad childhood. You seemed to notice all the so-called bad things about others but not you. Don’t you want to count your blessings for all that you have and enjoy now under the bad “UMNO government” compared to others in China, India or other poor and bad countries in the world?
That is why I and many here suggested that you migrate to the best country in the world according to your standard because what is the point of being a citizen in a bad country with bad leaders like Malaysia. If you migrate (hopefully you are successful) you can always come back to Malaysia to visit your grateful relatives and friends here.
There! This is a good idea. Please consider.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to address Mr jukes
I quote
“jukes
February 3, 2012 at 6:18 pm | Permalink
Encik Amin,
I dont make these facts up. The facts are there. It was about 170 over ppl. My point is going back to before, even if you are a whore or drug addict, you dont deserve to die under police custody. Tak kan lah Islam says its ok. Even as a person who is not well versed with the Quran, I highly doubt it says that police brutality is fine. Cops are not above the law as well. Mate, I am not blaming the whole police system. But there are major kinks. Can I pass some youtube vids for you? Indian kids being mocked on by cops while they sit there and laugh. Bribery going on pure during midday. Although, I think bribery is a two way street. Our rakyat needs to change our mentality. I know the summons costs more than paying a bribe. So, any realistic person wouldnt hesitate to pay a cop off.”
Mr juks, what kind of misguided anti national element are you to continue defaming my country, Malaysia by continuing to harp on police brutality and corruption. 170 emaciated malnourished HIV positive Malay drug addicts died in a YEAR all over the country averages out to about 1 person per state per MONTH. YOU insist nobody should die under police custody. Something is wrong with your reasoning, juks. If somebody is terminally ill, he should better get arrested by the Malaysian police because juks says he cannot die while under police custody. Your reasoning has gone haywire and you say you are talking facts. Please do not continue to embarrass yourself. You clearly have not seen nor imagined how your heroes of 170 drug addicts look like. You must know drug addicts need money desperately to keep going. They are willing to go the distance just to get a dose of the substance. In their addiction, they often resort to crime, including knifing and robing their own mothers. I suggest Mr juks come back to Malaysia this coming summer holiday in June and do some charity work taking care of drug addicts in police lock ups or pusat serenti(drug addict detention and rehabilitation centre)
Mr juks, in your last posting I notice that you try to drag islam into the issue of police brutality and Altantuya. Tidak cutup jadi kafir, nak anti islam pula. Harap Mr juks sedar dan insaf bahawa semua orang nampak niat jahat anda. Everyone can see through your evil intention against islam and Malaysia. You claim yourself to be patriotic. You claim to be neutral and yet your hollow and baseless claims about corruption in the country is the same as claimed by Opposition chief, Anwar Ibrahim, Harakah, Malaysiakini, JoshuaLopez. All of you have the same mentality. All of you have nothing good to say about Malaysia. You even have the audacity to mock me about AMIN TAN CORRUPTION INDEX. All of us have been living peacefully and happily in Malaysia and here come a traitor who claim himself to be neutral, and bad mouth our motherland saying Malaysia is corrupted and implying islam support the killing of Altantuya and islam support police brutality. Not satisfied as being an infidel, you continue to undermine islam by trying to associate the holy religion with negative connotations. I notice also that you tend to be boastful typical of young ciku or green horn. You want to champion Anwar Ibrahim and campaign for Pakatan Rakyat it is your freedom of choice, but please don’t spread falsehood and lies about our beloved country, Malaysia. Please use your brain to check whether what you are talking is logical and sensible and use your heart to check on the sincerity of your intention or motive. Forgive me for using some harsh words because I am a straight shooter.
amin tan
Cherry,
So now you are not interested in anything without proof and evidence? But when I provide evidence on corruption index and amnesty international, you people disregard it. So what do you want now? Should I praise constantly like Cherry does? Plus, the Altantuuya case is common sense. Did you follow the trials? What did I say previously? Ppl want to know who pulled the trigger. The convicted soldiers said themsleves in court that they were given orders. NOW, why no investigation has been done as to who gave the orders? Oh, now I get it, anyone who does not live in Msia has no rights now? Wow, that is the smartest statement I have heard all along.
I am just asking to why nobody here has wondered? Issnt that plain apathy? I may not have any relations to altantuyaa whatsoever, but this is not justice. THen Tun himself comes out writing about other countries. SO yea, if other countries can mess about, so can we.
And cherry, this conversation was between me and Amin Tan. So, please refer back before shooting yourself in the foot. It was his quote saying she deserved what she got. Clearly, he knows somethng about the case. As a follower of the government, I would like to see his views on it. So, if I have no right, please mind your own business as usual. You keep coming in from the sidelines shooting away. lol
Dahlah tak baca other comments, you keep referring back to mine. It was written in the context of replying to what Encik Amin said. fool
Tuntuah,
There you go again. These are not facts that I made up. They are done and surveyed by international organisations. Oh Mr. Muslim, you dont take so others can have. Yes, more like only my Muslim brothers can have. And going back before again, as I said that is discrimination. That is all. What is so wrong with saying that. If you want to practice something, just come out and admit it. Wait, so unless someone pays income tax, they are not entitled to voice their thoughts? Man, you are still living in the caves perhaps. But for Encik Najib to come out and profess about democracy and stuff, please think before you say these things. If you dont want to fully practice it, then dont come out and say things like oh democratic country.
Dearest YAB & diKasihi Tun,
Allow me Tun:
To juks,
Please think carefully before you write anything in this blog. You are trying very hard to project yourself as an intelligent person, but sad to say you do not seem like one. I am getting TIRED reading your comments/claims, which are BASELESS and USELESS (I can read the oppositions’ blogs for all the rubbish you put here). You sound more like the “PEMBANGKANG”.
If you really believe in whatever you say/claim, please set up your own blog (where you can write as much as you want). You are taking a lot of space here. You keep on insulting Tun, the Government, Malaysia, the Malays and also those who support the Government. You are very RUDE. You DO NOT EVEN RESPECT THE OWNER of this blog. What RIGHT do you have to be rude to Tun?
Since you yourself are ashamed to be Malaysian, so what are you waiting for? Just pack and leave permanently – “habis cerita”. No one is stopping you. Of course you can stay because it’s your right. But we also have a right to give our opinion on this matter (“terutamanya bila berhadapan dengan warganegara yang tidak tahu diuntung dan tidak sedar diri & tidak tahu bersyukur & suka memburukkan Malaysia”). It is better to have an outsider (non-Malaysian) to insult us than our own citizens (like you) to keep on undermining/insulting Malaysia. Is this how you show your LOVE towards Malaysia?
By the way, I ALONE (Malay) pay very high INCOME TAX for many years. So please stop claiming that Malaysia is depending too much on your family’s (and of course the oppositions’ & the Chinese) money to survive. So tell me how much INCOME TAX have “YOU” (not your family) contributed so far? So, it is very true that “TIN MILO KOSONG” makes the loudest sound/noise.
Thanks Tun.
*** May Allah SWT bless Tun and family ***
juks,
You said “In regards to Altantuuya, even if you are a convicted terrorist. No one deserves to be bombed like that. That is plain inhuman.”
Nobody says it is justified to bomb anybody like that. Why are you asking as if we the supporters here have to answer? what are you implying? Do you have any proof to support that anyone here in Malaysia responsible for this?
You have no right to blame anybody and demand explanation from us in Malaysia when you are not living in Malaysia and please if you have made up your mind with what the opposition have been “feeding” you with all the interesting theories but WITHOUT proof as usual; then keep it to yourself.
We are not interested in your “conspiracy theories without proof and evidences.”
Be fair to yourself and others. A healthy mind is what you need.
juks
before you say bad things about police, government, malaysia.. human rights, rasuah and so on….
how much you have pay your income tax so far? if none…dont complaint. if yes, maybe a little after your accountant manipulated your income. shame on you.
a lot of people dont pay or run away from taxes and asked a lot of things. forget it. you wont get anything.
you loved developed countries so bad, so be like american. they pay their taxes wherever they live. because of that, if anything, the 7th fleet is there for them.
talking about comparison, apple to apple. i cannot compare myself with robert kuok, goh c. tong, boon siew, YTL…. definitely suicidal. i compared myself with the people that were born same yer with me. so from there i know where i am. oh ya.. i am a muslim, i dont take all the goodies eventhough i am entitle for it. i tak tamak. moderation is priority for me so that other people can have theirs. be like a bird.. they only eat for that day. so the resources will never end. not like u try to steal other people chances eventhough your pocket is full.. bad attitude you have there. please change.
lastly, sometimes we need to behave like other wise guys eventhough we are not yet clever in such situation. just to minimise our weakness.
When I was very young I used to hold the US as a country in high regard. I still truly admire Abraham Lincoln, not just as the man who was responsible in abolishing slavery in America, but also as man of great manners. A true role model of a leader. They definitely have a great history.
But things have changed nowadays. The US is no longer the same country it was once. Ever since they allowed their political parties being fed by business corporations, the government is now under the mercy of them.
HARDLY TO FIND JUSTICE
FROM DAY 1 OF ADAM LIFE TILL NOW
ANWAR CASE, THIS AMERICANS SOILDER CASE
WHAT DECISION THEY HAVE MADE
IT,S HUMAN DECISION
WE HAVE HUKUM ALLAH
FOR THESE REASON I FIND IT VERY WRONG FOR MAJLIS AGAMA ISLAM IN MALAYSIA,INDONESIA,SINGAPORE OR ANY ISLAMIC WORLD TO PROVIDE A HALAL CERTIFICATE
HUKUM ALLAH TIDAK PERLU SIJIL
HALAL,HARAM,MAKRUH,SUNNAT,WAJIB TAK PERLU SIJIL
MAJLIS AGAMA ISLAM MALAYSIA,INDONESIA,SINGAPURA
ATAU DI MANA TAK PERLU KELUARKAN SIJIL HALAL BAGI
MENGHALALKAN SESUATU YG LUAR DARI KAWALAN
MANUSIA SEPERTI MENGELUARKAN
SIJIL HALAL PADA BUNGKUSAN MAKANAN BERTUJUAN IMFORMATIVE YG IA HALAL
ATAU
MENBANTU SIKAFIR MENGAMBIL KESEMPATAN PADA HUKUM ALLAH
DALAM AGAMA KALAU WAS WAS HALAL JAUHI
JANGAN DIFIKIR LAGI
TINDAKAN ISLAM RINGKAS KENAPA KITA RUMITKAN
KALAU MAJLIS BOLIH MENGELUARKAN SIJIL HALAL BUKANKAH LEBIH BAIK MEREKA MENGELUARKAN SIJIL HARAM,TAMPAL DI DEPAN PINTU MAKSIAT SEPERTI CASINO,RUMAH PELACURAN,SEBAGAINYA
APAKAH KITA PERLU SIJIL UNTUK MASUK SYURGA
HUMAN INTELLIGENCE,TECHNOLOGY,HUMAN JUSTICE
NEVER LAST INDEED IT HAS BAD EFFECTS US SOONER OR LATER
I PREFER TO LIVE IN AN UNDEVELOP NATIONS RATHER
A HIGHLY DEVELOP NATIONS
THE MORE ADVANCE MEDICAL WE HAVE
THE MORE SICKNESS WE HAVE
UNDEVELOP NATIONS MAY NOT HAVE HIGH MEDICAL
YET THEY DO NOT HAVE MANY SICKNESS LIKE WE HAVE
AS IN HYPERTENSION,HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE,ETC
WOW,WHAT A KIND OF SICKNESS NEVER FOUND IN A SIMPLE MAN
LIFES SHORT
ENJOY IT IN A NATURAL PEACEFUL MANNER
EMPHASIZE ON HYGEINE,GOOD RELATIONS WITH EACH
WE SHOULD BE LIVING IN PARADISE IF THIS IS HAPPENING
LETS WORK TO LIVE
NOT LIVE TO WORK
Tun
This topical subject of an American soldier being held for court-martial for the killing of 24 civilians, men, women and children reminded me again of the importance of sovereignty, national interest and self-esteem in our beloved Malaysia. And this soldier was only given a light sentence as a result of the application of plea bargaining which was the loop-hole for the defendant.
America became great through wars. From the War of Independence, 1775-76, the Civil War of 1852, the Spanish-American War of 1898, the World War 1 of 1914-1918, World War 2 of 1941-1945, (Britain only repaid her debt owed to the United States and Canada arising from the Lend-Lease Pact in 2006), the Cold War 1948-1990, the Korean War 1952-1954, the Vietnam War 1968-1975, the lst Iraq War 1993, the Afghan War 2002, the 2nd Iraq War 2003. And now she is re-grouping in the Pacific to focus on maintaining her world hegemony.
The Americans only die for freedom unlike the British and the French.
From the Wikipedia, there were 2 million courts-martial during World War 2. These soldiers are from the 99% of the American population.
From the massacres on the Korean Peninsula, in My Lai in Vietnam, and the many killings in the on-going wars in the Middle East and Afghanistan, there were no records of capital punishment was not meted out on the soldiers who participated in them. These came to our notice because the media reported them. I believe that there were many more that were not reported in the helter-skelter of war or suppressed.
The fear of a revolt in the rank and file of the American military must be uppermost in the minds of the top brass if a heavy punishment is meted out. Then, no American soldiers will fight and shoot to kill. Hence, the innocent 24 Iraqis were sacrificed on the altar of injustice – a brutal and cruel act in the greater interests of the United States.
An interesting insight into the magnitude of massacres of civilians might be a study into the psychotic behaviour of the veterans of these wars. Why they became mentally deranged from their participation in these wars ? Did they kill any innocent men, women and children in service ?
Many years ago, I was sitting in a Kyoto taxi-cab. The driver suddenly brought up the subject that he served in Burma during the World War 2. And to my surprise and amazement, he kept saying he was very sorry for what he did there during the War. And that War is not good. I was dumbfounded but he earned my respect and admiration.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me reply to Mr juks
juks says
“Listen to yourself. In regards to Altantuuya, even if you are a convicted terrorist. No one deserves to be bombed like that. That is plain inhuman. Does Islam agree with that sense of justice? Lets act like animals to take down another. See, the point is the two soldiers who were arrested and convicted claimed during trial that they were given orders and did their duty. FINE. Now ppl want to know who gave the orders. Did I ever presume it was Najib? If it wasnt, then so be it. So wait, we cant investigate? Cannot pursue? That is what I am saying about rights.”
What has islam got to do with the killing of Altantuya?
You said the 2 bodyguards claimed they were ‘given orders.’ Orders to make the female does not come to disturb Razak Baginda at the house. The bodyguards should use some imagination, not orders to commit murder.
Who gave the orders. Of course Razak Baginda gave the order to chase away the female trouble maker who made all sorts of claims.
Whereas, your alternative media, Malaysiakini add some salt and sugar to make it juicy and mysterious like Agatha Christie. School boy like juks help to fantasize and dramatize what is not, making it look like macabre and sinister and splash it on Najib and Rosmah with the collusion of Judiciary. Now you are implying amin tan condone and encourage murder of Altantuya when I say she deserved what she got. I simply meant she should have some common sense not to mess around with some individuals who may be mad like the 2 bodyguards. Don’t be too naive, jukes.
amin tan
Encik Sudin,
Humbly and respectfully, haha I must have hit a real nerve there didnt I? Again, I have apologized numerous times. For the last time, dont bring out your age again because you clearly dont act it. Hence, lets begin.
According to TUN M, his biggest failure was not being able to help the Malays enough as they couldnt help themselves. Now, the part where Malays like yourself are in major denial. You ask and seek for more help but youre not getting anywhere.
And for those who call us pendatangs, this is reality. Chinese contribute 90percent of taxes to the country. You are living off on chinese ppl. Your benefits, scholarships are provided by Chinese ppl> My family donates a proton car to the govn every year in taxes. SO please, you need us. Its like Londoners and Brits as well. It is the rich and foreigners who contribute massively to their economy. They then use those funds to help the poor and lazy. So to ppl who are harping on the constitution, yes I will respect that, BUT FACE REALITY, get off your ass and do something. I empathize with those who cant help themselves. BUT the others, oh please have some dignity and self respect.
Lastly, the facts and evidence are online? Like Tuntuah said go google and get it. If you are still proud, then good for you.
Check out sites like Corruption INDEX, NOT AMIN TANS INDEX.
Amnesty International, not SUDINS BRAINS and perception,
Human right studies and not Tuntuah perception from thin air.
Dahlah ask me to google, he himself brings out random facts based on his perceptions.
I have praised and given credit when due. Again, you cant bullshit these things. Jesus christ, what rumors are you going on about? Go ask tuntuah about google old man. You are clearly behind in terms of technology. Dahlah everyday baca utusan, you think the world revolves around tv3 as well. Dont worry about my education old man. You worry about your English, based on facts again. If you disagree, perhaps I could print some of your articles and publish it in my university campus. That is Manglish for you.
Old man, I will give you the fact that you can be one nasty piece of work. KUDOS, and to others, let this be said that this man is no gentleman or senior citizen. I mean he talks like a 20 year old, filled with foul words. So, please do not expect any respect from me or the young. You post crap like ohhh the old generation had to work and now the young are ungrateful. OH please man, we are realistic. And again, no need to get personal about my studies. Finish off what you started. Dahlah get personal with others, then you go and post sombre filled crap about how Malays used to go the chinese shop. I have rarely denied whatever you have said. BUT my point is, there is no need to get personal.
Anyways, back to work now. More cars and taxes to donate to the Malays like yourself in future. Happy days.
Encik Amin,
I dont make these facts up. The facts are there. It was about 170 over ppl. My point is going back to before, even if you are a whore or drug addict, you dont deserve to die under police custody. Tak kan lah Islam says its ok. Even as a person who is not well versed with the Quran, I highly doubt it says that police brutality is fine. Cops are not above the law as well. Mate, I am not blaming the whole police system. But there are major kinks. Can I pass some youtube vids for you? Indian kids being mocked on by cops while they sit there and laugh. Bribery going on pure during midday. Although, I think bribery is a two way street. Our rakyat needs to change our mentality. I know the summons costs more than paying a bribe. So, any realistic person wouldnt hesitate to pay a cop off.
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to respond to jukes,
You said 170 people died under police custody. The statement is already biased against the police and you claim yourself to be neutral and fair. Who are those 170? They were mostly emaciated malnourished hard core MALAY DRUG ADDICTS, picked up by the police on the road side, under the bridge or abandoned construction sites. There was nothing sinister or suspicious about the 170. Your youtube policemen beating people for not giving bribe may be true depending on circumstance. Either the victims must have been extremely provocative and defiant or it must be the only time it ever happened in the history of mankind. Most policemen are Malays and Muslims. They are extremely kind people unless cornered, provoked and embarrassed in public. The Malays are the nicest, most friendly and helpful people in the world. Anybody for that matter would become nasty under unreasonable accusation and untenable provocation.
amin tan
Tun, we cannot complain too much againsts other countries …
If we look at ourself, the progress of DSAI sodomy case and how it was handled ….
until today, we still see Chua on TV even he is with the DVD scandals …
then the public will have some kind of perceptions, as by definition, law is equal to everybody …
haha …
Salam Tun.
I wish to introduce a new member to Mat Sabu’s renown “the eternal moron & all-crap society”, a chap who claims to be a student but somehow has all the time to pick up big fights with almost anyone (reminds me of ‘ecompute’, probably related?) and keeps highlighting on all the rumours & the purportedly unfair nitty-witty little happenings that are continually being fed to him/his alike by Anwar’s agents, and chooses to ignore major issues (or most probably he doesn’t understand them!).
No matter how thorough the explanation given, this young moron always revert back to the same inconsequential matters and never even realize that he keeps going round and round in circles! Yet he is very arrogant.
When moron and arrogance combine, the Malays do have a most appropriate word to describe such people, “bodoh sombong”.
He called himself ‘juks’, and juk in Bahasa is pronounced as joke. It really suits him, jokes, but I’d prefer to replace the letter ‘s’ with letter ‘r’, hence joker!
Okay joker, this entry of Tun’s specifically mentioned a US soldier’s heinous slaughtering in cold blood 24 Iraqi commoners (including a toddler, a hapless elderly on a wheelchair,…..) and you intercepted to emphasize to the world as though Altantuya’s murder means everything to you!
I don’t think you understand my point, typical to all morons.
You also don’t understand my earlier point on how a contract works, and also the umpteen times that Hj Amin Tan has been explaining his points in simplest English to you, and the easy to understand & straight forward points/facts described by Tuntuah, fbm, Idea, Jamal, Mis_bah, Musato, cherry, anak_patriot, maarji2020,.….. sorry to those that I missed out, it’s really a never ending list!!
Wow joker boy, you definitely broke a record of sorts in Tun’s blog!
Anyway joker boy, keep commenting on the comments!! It has been a long time people visiting Tun’s blog have had a good laugh! Not since Tun stopped criticizing that useless PM5 Pak Dol & sil team budak kurang _jar(KJ).
One last thing, when will you start commenting the comments from the likes of alibabajohn, pakpandir08, Jonathan, Joshua Lopez. You keep telling us that you’re on the neutral side. Maybe you’re also a hypocrite?
Another one last thing, when is your exam? Oops, I keep forgetting your simple principle of money is everything, money can buy anything. Otherwise you’d never have passed the English papers especially looking at the carca-marba paragraphing as shown in your comments! So, exam no worry eh, semua boleh settle?
One more last thing juks oops joker, see what you have done, I’m beginning to like your ‘one last thing’ style already!
Dear Tun,
Please allow me to response to jukes
jukes says
“In terms of police brutality, I have seen cases on youtube. A man was beaten because he refused to give duit rasuah. Well, many other cases out there in fact. 170 or more died under police custody last year. Just some enlightening facts. These are not my personal opinion. Could you also please comment on the tight controlled media. We can exchange facts through some video documentary evidence by the MCLM NGO in Msia.”
I don’t believe you or your youtube. As far as I am concerned Malaysia is a peaceful country and there is no police brutality. It is wild exaggeration of the highest order of police beating individuals if not given rasuah. It sounds stupid. If you don’t give bribe of rm5 or the most rm10 for expired road tax or beating traffic light, you may be issued a summon. That may be true for certain rare cases of police black sheeps. By and large our police are the honest lot. Mr jukes this is 21st century. Don’t you harp on police brutality as if we are living in the 18th century.
What are you talking about media tight control? You have Malaysiakini, Harakah all full of unfounded defamation of individuals. The opposition mouth piece don’t publish news. They publish rubbish and nonsensical gossips and preposterous theories of police brutality and press censorship. Juks, you are ridiculous.
You paint dirty and heinous picture of the government and the police. You collude and abet in defaming and bad mouth our country and peaceful society. You are abetting in spreading falsehood and lies about our peaceful society and legally elected government of the day.
amin tan
Maka apakah undang-undang yang sesuai untuk Bangsa Malaysia dan Ummah, Dr. Mahathir Mohamad?
Kepulauan Langkawai sebaik-baik medan menimba ilmu menabur budi. A human face with a big heart…
Imagine, Malaysia – the last Malay paradise on earth.
JJ,
Take the Khir Toyo example where millions was involved. I know of cases where people who stole a pair of jeans for 60 ringgit and was jailed for almost a year. That too me unequivalent punishment. Again, I am no expert and it is my personal opinion that you have much more too lose if you steal less. Might as well go for the big time. The punishment is almost equal and you get more bang for your buck
Dear Amin,
Seseorang yang konon guilty, do they not deserve rights as well?
You say it is unfortunate. Yes it is, someone needs to be punished for it. Not just the soldiers who did it. We all know that they take orders. It is the brains behind it. Osama wasnt in the planes. BUT he was considered a larger threat as he was the brains and mastermind. Again, we want to know the mastermind behind the murder. My point being OK or NOT? This has nothing to do with whether she is a whore or blackmailer. Are you saying we can go around excecuting ppl just because they committed a crime? Again, I am not associating it with Najib or any minister. It could be anyone. BUT we want justice. Plain and simple english. Boleh ke tak boleh? If boleh, why is not being done properly. Kalau tak boleh, why not.
In terms of Kugans case in relation to his death, no one has been held responsible yet. WHY? Even if it was an ordinary citizen who beat him, why has no one been prosecuted yet? Stop looking at the west. Start looking at our own country. Yes, I think the west is extremely biased when it comes to justice as well.
Also, corruption and other issues. Mate, when you say the opposition cooks things up. It is the world index. Human right studies are also done by organisations. Tak kan lah the whole world is against Malaysia. Opposition propaganda. Western organisations also propaganda. Is Malaysia that hated while Singapore, Taiwan and Hong Kong all have no problems with the west. This is not about cooking up word of mouth. These are cold hard facts by established organisations. So question is, do I heed Amin Tan`s advice or an established organisation. Please dont take this the wrong way. I am just saying. Put yourself in my shoes. This is not about you convincing me otherwise but you need evidence to back up your claims. I have my share of facts and evidence and would love to share them with you. TQ Amin, I am glad we can exchange views openly without any personal attacks/
WORLD HAS WRONGLY GIVE FACE TO UNITED STATES
THAT STRENGHTEN THEM REGARDLES OF THEIR CRIME TOWARDS HUMAN LIFES
NOT JUST THIS SOILDER THAT WAS PUNISHED AS GOOD AS NO PUNISHMENT
THE LEADER JUNIOR AND SENIOR BUSH
WAS NOT QUESTIONED OF THEIR CRIME.
NORTH KOREA,IRAN,CUBA SHOULD FORM
AS IN UNITED STATES AND BRITSIH
SUCH TO STABILZE WORLD HARMONY
Encik Amin,
Listen to yourself. In regards to Altantuuya, even if you are a convicted terrorist. No one deserves to be bombed like that. That is plain inhuman. Does Islam agree with that sense of justice? Lets act like animals to take down another. See, the point is the two soldiers who were arrested and convicted claimed during trial that they were given orders and did their duty. FINE. Now ppl want to know who gave the orders. Did I ever presume it was Najib? If it wasnt, then so be it. So wait, we cant investigate? Cannot pursue? That is what I am saying about rights. Even if it is the Agung, they can be prosecuted or investigated. No one is pointing fingers here. YES, in terms of corruption. Please go to Selangor. The corruption perception index speaks for itself very highly. We are not that far off from India in terms of corruption. Again, doesnt mean corruption does not happen to us, we like it. Amin, you clearly live in a beautiful neighbourhood where you have never heard of rasuah or corruption. Mate, I lived in KL all my life sheltered away. Not knowing what was going on. Now if the opposition is lying and carrying propaganda, the NGOs are also in cohorts. In fact, the people who have came out (whistleblowers) are also in cohorts.
In terms of police brutality, I have seen cases on youtube. A man was beaten because he refused to give duit rasuah. Well, many other cases out there in fact. 170 or more died under police custody last year. Just some enlightening facts. These are not my personal opinion. Could you also please comment on the tight controlled media. We can exchange facts through some video documentary evidence by the MCLM NGO in Msia.
Now in regards to opposition carrying empty promises, the problem is nobody knows. No one has eveer been in power. The 2008 GE results speaks for itself. People are no longer happy. See it is either the opposition is cooking up stories and propaganda. OR BN is self destructing itself.
Salam TUN,
According to Anti War .Com,an estimate of 1,455,590 innocent lives perished in the make believe Iraq War.
Their arguments was, at that moment in time the informations on Iraq having WMD was reliable and correct.So,they declared war.
After the war,the search for Iraq’s WMD was futile and justice has yet to be served for declaring it.
They declared war based on 5 little words’at that moment in time’
They are fond of massacres,Haditha and My Lai,history repeating itself.
The 24 killed in Haditha consists of 3 womens,7 childrens,a toddler and an elderly man in a wheel chair.
What kind of threat can a toddler posed to warrant their actions.
The court marshall was compromised,since the make believe war was illegal.
Sgt Frank Wuterich wont take it laying down,knowing all his superiors also has blood on their hands.
Minority of Malaysians still think these ‘Orang Puteh’ are god.
Sikit Sikit run to them for help without realising that they are washing dirty linen in public about their own country in which they are born.
I wonder after all these years whether your detractors has become migrant,but one thing sure as LAUNDRY MAN/DOBI for washing dirty linen in public.
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
Izinkan,
Salam kasih sayang sdr. Bothman. Izinkankan kami sambut bicara sdrku.
Askm Tun, semuga Allah SWT terus memberi kita semua nekmatNya.
Alfatihah, Amin
Well… POWER IS INDEED RIGHT…. in this world where justice is never just.
Indeed sir as we have said upteen times ‘ Permohonan Nafsu mengatasi Permohonan Iman’… wallahualam
Cherry.. well said about juks and who he really is and really hope that he is in the group of ungrateful & egoistic “minority” Malaysians.
We can’t blame that young ‘DUMB’ Jerk who cud only see the splashes but not the ripples caused by objects thrown into the waters of Putrajaya by the ‘ABI’ opposition leaders/parties
May Allah SWT protect us from many evils.
ALFATIHAH, AMIN
Ps. Abbr. DUMB ( Deranged, Useless, Mental Blockhead ) and
ABI ( Aggravated Brain Injuries )… but the young Juks ability to attract attention is acknowledged. God willing, young Juks maybe able to see the beauty of this progressive and peaceful multiracial country of ours as he develops the grey matters in his brains… God speed.
Penggunaan Emas.
Kuasa Barat begitu berkuasa sehingga boleh membunuh sesiapa sahaja. Malah undang2 di antara mereka memang berat sebelah. Sedih, geram, benci dan macam2 timbul perasaan ni bila mengetahui berita sebegini. Orang Islam sering ditindas dan dibunuh begitu sahaja. Nyawa mereka diganti dengan wang dan senjata baru.
Kuasa ini sudah tentulah didominasi oleh kuasa2 besar yang menguasai ekonomi dunia melalui sistem kapitalis yang kita ketahui secara amnya. Setelah China mula memperkenalkan dasar keterbukaannya, kuasa2 besar ini sudah mula terasa impaknya. mana tidaknya, kesemua duit dan harta mereka “tersangkut” di China. Dilihat kini, Asia dan China sudah mula menunjukkan kadar penigkatan ekonomi yang baik walaupun kuasa2 besar ini mengalami masalah ekonomi yang serius. Walaubagaimanapun, negara-negra Islam masih lagi dilihat sebagai negara miskin, tidak maju dan masih lagi ditindas. Mengapa? Negara Islam mempunyai simpanan minyak yang banyak begitu juga dengan emas. Kenapa harta ini tidak digunakan sebagai senjata org Islam utk menidakkan tindakan kuasa besar ini?…
Penggunaan Dinar Emas yang dicadangkan Tun sangat2 bagus. Malah saya melihat suara cadangan Tun ini sebagai langkah pertama dalam pengenalan Emas sebagai wang perdagangan. Labih bagus apabila ringgit ditambat dengan nilai emas.
Saya tertanya-tanya, kenapa negara Islam tidak mewujudkan matawang seperti mana wujudnya matawang euro. Mungkin Malaysia boleh memulakan dengan memperkenalkan satu matawang Islam yang baru yang ditambatkan dengan nilai emas. Contohnya Dinar Mas Islam. Mungkin pengenalan matawang ini adalah satu langkah permulaan dalam sistem perdagangan Islam secara global. Apabila matawang ini wujud, maka bermulalah episod persaingan Dolar, Euro dan Pound Sterling dan mungkin Dinar Mas Islam. Bagaimana utk mengukuhkan lagi Dinar ini?
Saya berpendapat, ketika China mula memperkenalkan dasar keterbukaannya, kini negara Islam perlulah memulakan sesuatu yang baru. Memang sukar, tetapi perlaksanaan perlu bermula dari langkah yang kecil. Pengenalan matang Islam ini InsyaAllah boleh menarik negara-negara Islam yang lain utk memulakan perdagangan sesama mereka dgn mengunakan Dinar ini. Saya yakin, penglibatan perdagangan dengan matawang ini boleh menarik penglibatan China apabila China juga menambat matawang mereka dengan nilai emas. Ketika itulah kita boleh lihat sistem kapitalis matawang dunia akan terjejas. Apabila mereka sudah tidak melihat kepada kepingan kertas yang dipanggil Dolar Amerika dan Euro.
Mungkin banyak rintangan dan cabaran utk mewujudkan matawang ini. Walaubagaimanapun, segala usaha dan kudrat pemimpin-peminpin Islam itu juga akhirnya akan berjaya kerana Allah sentiasa bersama kita InsyaAllah.
DEAR TUN,
Please allow me to respond to Mr Juks who would like me to answer some tough questions so that he can shoot at me at close range with high calibre bullets.
Mr Juks would like my opinion on the following issues so that he can decide whom to vote for BN or PR.
“1) Should we pursue further on the case of Altantuuya? The rakyat wants to know who pulled the trigger. Not the bullet.”
No we should not pursue further on the case of Altantuya. She was a bold international call girl fishing for big bucks. She was most indiscreet and too bold. She deserved what she got for trying to blackmail Razak Baginda. Blackmail is a crime. From my understanding of the case, most likely she was shot to death and bombed to smithereens by some over zealous bodyguards. It was unfortunate for her. Some people claimed Najib and Rosmah were involved through affidavits(surat sumpah). This is ridiculous and fabricated story by the Opposition. The Opposition is bankrupt of idea and they resort to low blows. Why should Najib, Rosmah Mansor or Razak Baginda want to murder her? Do they look like murderers. Mr Juks I can assure you our Prime Minister is a very nice man. Don’t defame him and smear his good name by associating him with Altantuya. Rosmah Mansor and Razak Baginder are two very nice and kind people. I don’t think they are that stone hearted and cruel to murder an international prostitute. Please don’t buy Opposition propaganda.
2) Is corruption an issue that should be addressed?
Please don’t believe the exaggeration spun by the Opposition. As a full blooded Malaysian, you ask yourself, do you or any one of your relative or friends are involved in bribery as claimed by the Opposition as being rampant. I am sure the answer is negative. Then why must we say UMNO people are corrupted and PKR people are clean. This is not credible and not logical. Why must PKR Malays be cleaner than UMNO Malays. They all have the same background and upbringing. Smear campaign. Dirty propaganda. Nobody in their right mind believe that UMNO Malays are corrupted, except Nik Aziz and Lim Kit Siang. I don’t think and I don’t believe Najib, Datuk Seri Mustapa Mohammed or Datuk Hishamuddin Tun Hussein are corrupted. They are the most hard working, efficient, responsible, clean and very able politicians in Asia, if not the world. Malaysians are fortunate to have such good politicians to serve us.
3) Abuse of police power epsc police beatings.
Let us be fair to the police. Do you or any member of your family have ever suffered any police beating? Why should the police beat anybody? They are not sadistic? But criminals and thieves may suffer some rude remarks or scolding here and there. This is to be expected in the case of violent criminals. Mr. Juks which do you prefer, policeman or criminals.? My experience is that our policeman are the most friendly, kind heart and helpful. If you ask street thugs who insult and yell at policemen during unruly Bersih demonstration, then they tell you different story. Mr Juks, give me a break. Don’t vote for Opposition. Let us have some peace in the country without the dirty and lousy Opposition.
Let me stop here for a while and I will continue later. Let me analyze the above. All the above issues you asked me to elaborate are actually non issues. The Opposition are not perfect or supermen, neither have they any track record or sterling performance of running a country, except greed for power. They are just cooking up a lot of lies and half truth about police beating peaceful civilians during peaceful demonstrations. Opposition demonstrations are unruly, verbally abusing and provoking the police and disrupting peace in the city of Kuala Lumpur. They have evil and perverted intention of causing instability in the country. They imagine and concoct stories about our Prime Minister involved in heinous crime of murder. They wildly exaggerated about UMNO Malays practice rampant corruption and PKR malays are innocent and holy like angels from heaven. Come on, Juks. Do you believe all those lies and half truths from the Pakatan Rakyat? Please believe me and please vote for Barisan National and ask all your friends to do the same. Protect our beloved motherland from falling into the hands of evil people who continue to besmear, bad mouth and defame their own country.
amin tan
Ooohh speaking of one sided trials and such….
I recall Tun clearly clarifying publicly about Anwar`s trials back in 1998. In public to the media. Stating facts and such as if he knew Anwar was guilty. Now again as said before, IT IS IRRELEVANT IF HE WAS GUILTY OR NOT. Its the conduct of the trials. Now here we had a prime minister who was stating out publicly about a case. This would have caused significant influence. Now ppl may say no lahhhh. The point is, no higher authority should comment openly on any case pending. It is a clear disruption and also shows disrespect to the judicial system. Espc when the highest authority, Mr. PM himself comes out and state so. Whether it did affect the trials or not, we will never know. Point being, any higher authority should never get involved in any court case unless subpoenaed to give testimonial and such. ooohhh, there is also live evidence on youtube for those who are skeptical.
What is fair and what is not? Sounds simple enough to me. Plea bargaining for lighter sentences is normal in the U.S . Changing the charges to dereliction of duty? For causing the death of… 24 civvies?And getting 3 month jail time, pay cuts and demotion. Fair for the guy? Yeah… to him. Justice is served. Ha ha ha
Dear juks,
“But cases where cops and ministers were not given equivalent punishments based on their crimes.”
What do you mean by equivalent punishments? Care to explain. I take it you’re a lawyer or someone well verse in the finer point of law and its punishment. And while you’re at it, do include cases too. Cheerio..
Askm Tun, semuga Allah SWT terus memberi kita semua nekmatNya.
Well… POWER IS INDEED RIGHT…. in this world where justice is never just.
Cherry.. well said about juks and who he really is and really hope that he is in the group of ungrateful & egoistic “minority” Malaysians.
May Allah SWT protect us from many evils.
Dear Amin,
I mean no disrespect to Encik Sudin at all. However your point of him being elder is irrelevant in the discussion that we are having. Respect is a two way street as I have mentioned before. We come from a society where the elder is always right. I dont think so in todays society where information is freely available to all ages. You may have one up on me in terms of life experiences. However, stating your age does not end the convo or make it right. I do respect your opinions and am glad that you brought up the stats. I am still learning about my country. Sir, you are trying to convince me otherwise on something that I have seen and read. Can we please get back to the issues here.
I have stated yes, help the Malays. Are you denying the fact that we should help others that need it as well who are not Malays? Encik Sudin, respectfully, if you can come out and state that, then the conversation ends here and I wont forcefully reinforce the same point I have been making. It is tiring. Please also have a look at the oppositions manifesto and agenda. If you disagree, I would love to know why. And please stick to the facts. Dont bring up things like its empty promises and such. We will never know until they come into power. For now, lets just discuss about their views on Msia. I will bring certain issues to light and would love to hear your thoughts if you agree or disagree.
1) Should we pursue further on the case of Altantuuya? The rakyat wants to know who pulled the trigger. Not the bullet.
2) Is corruption an issue that should be addressed?
3) Abuse of police power epsc police beatings.
4) Judiciary system clean or not??? Why so many discrepencies between trials.
5) Education system needs to compete with other countries in Asia
6) One student who on merit got 15 As in SPM but denied scholarship because of race. Fair or not?
7) Economically, we were once considered in competition with South Korea and Taiwan. Not anymore…Why???
8) Government loves the constitution but been broken many times????
9) ISA arrests legal or not? Including EO as well.
10) Should we be allowed human rights or not? Conditions are bad and Human Rights Index dont paint us in a good light. If I post my opinions, I could be locked up. Justified or not?
Encik Sudin, as an elder supporter of BN, these issues are in my mind as to how I place my vote in the next GE. If you could kindly address these issues, I would really be grateful. Thank you. Lastly, I am sorry if I did come across as rude in anyway. I hope you do not take any of my statements to heart. As a young voter, I would like to get down to the grassroots level and learn more about ppl`s perception on the country. Thank you and have a nice day
iraq dah jadi negara demokrasi…
tentera asing / tempatan yg bunuh org wajar dibicara di mahkamah atau undang2 iraq…
sama kot rasanya kat mana2 negara…
cuma macam biasa…
undang2 hanya untuk semut, bukan gajah…:)
Assalamu Alaikum Tun,
Is this considered justice in US? Kalau inilah erti keadilan di US..ramailah orang “mati katak….”
juk,
Why should I hide myself ? I love this country and and the people, be it the leaders and the people because nobody is perfect and I boleh cari makan and make the most of it here in Malaysia.
You said “Btw, my whole family and extended family do very well for ourselves without benefitting a single cent from the government.
I am more empathic towards the rest who really need help from government. So please, this is not about me or chinese people”.
All I can say is that your talk is cheapppp. Are sure that you and your family has never benefitted a single cent from the Government? Malaysia is certainly the wrong country for you… You just want more and more and more.A chinese man like you likes to talk big. If you are in business, the police and tentera etc (government) have been taking care of the country for ungrateful business people like you to do business whereby your customers are 80% the Malays…betul ? You prosper because of the UMNO government and you and your family prosper because of the Malays supporting you directly and indirectly. There are so many things to tell here but it is like giving a tuition on History and Civic subjects. Your type is the type who likes to complain and never thankful. May be the Malays see the oppression to the Muslims in Uighur, China and other non-muslims countries that they are so protective towards their rights. Whatever it is…you will be doing the same thing to your race and religion the way the government did and does now. Look at DAP…they are racist of the highest order not to mention father-son-daughter in law-etc kind of “tupperware party” they are having.
If you are not in business what activity can you and your family possibly do to justify that you have never benefitted from the Government ? DISGUSTING.
Salam Tun,
Thank you for bringing up this piece of news: murder unarmed Iraqi men, women and children…..and get a pay cut.
Plea bargaining has its advantages, I think, in that time and money can be saved and information can be obtained in exchange for a lesser charge and, consequently, a lesser sentence. But surely there must be limits on the types of crimes that plea bargaining can be used. Surely crimes like murder, rape, armed robbery, cannot be plea-bargained away. Well, not in the US Marines, it looks like.
But to be fair I remember another case [can't remember the town] where US soldiers gang-raped a 14 year-old Iraqi girl and murdered the other members of her family. The soldiers were charged, tried and given long jail sentences then.
The bigger question is why US soldiers commit atrocities against Iraqis — the very people they were supposed to ‘liberate’ — in the first place. Well, the UK Independent’s Robert Fisk thinks it’s due to the US military’s new ‘Warrior Creed’ a ne w akujanji devised by none other than Donald Rumsfeld himself.
Link to Fisk’s column: US military and its cult of cruelty
Dear Dr. Mahatir Mohamad,
Salam Hormat
Dari lapuran berita tempatan yang membawa cerita hak keselamatan Israel maka pertanyaan yang ujud adalah kenapa negara perlu kepada MP Pekan bilamana kita ada cerdik cakap bagi pemimpin adalah Dr. Mahathir?
Mengapa IGP tidak sahaja berbual langsung dengan media bagi melraikan fitnah cerita kematiannya?
Dan mengapa harus mengikut resam kapitalis tegar dalam muamalat ummah saperti dalam hal Amanah Sara 1Malaysia dan penyenaraian perdana Felda bilamana tidak ada yang arif mentadbir institusi zakat wakaf dan Bank Muamalat yang menjawab isinya titah Raja Muda Perak?
Kenapa kita terkejar-kejar mahu dikenali sabagai negara maju apabila tanggungjawab sebagai negara anggota OIC terabai?
Di situlah keadilan kepada dunia dan Ummah.
Sekian.
YABhg Tun,
…that works out to a 3 days plus jail sentence for every 1 dead Iraqis. ( ..you get that for stealing chicken in my kampung )
& kill another 72 Iraqis will get you a complete 1 year jail sentence. ( ..which is cheap and a good bargain )
Good evening YAB,
1. Yang Amat Berhormat has pointed out that under US Martial Law of Defense, the soldier was charged as 3. He was then sentenced by the court to reduction in rank to private, pay cut by two-thirds and three months jail.
2. In Malaysia, 4. We don’t have provision for plea bargaining in our laws. When Anwar’s Government takes over he will make our laws more modern, not so lapok(archaic) as they are now. Then those accused can bargain and the charge of whatever can be reduced so the accused can plead guilty to a lesser charge, contohnya, Anwar and his friends to beggar thy BN in Malaysia would be perceived as righteous in the eyes of commoners.
3. 5. Just think, you kill 24 innocent Iraqis and get three months jail. That is justice.
4. The end result of this trial was to uphold “the objective to justify the end result”.
5. Under US International Martial Law, the disciplinary act of the soldier was upheld and being trial fairly and equally as an army in war zone.
6. After being acquitted, Anwar will continue his dream to be the PM because his pembodek2 are his fans who believed that he is sent by Tuhan kerana kami berikrar Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan kut.
7. As bangsa Malay Muslim, Saiful claimed he was sodomized by another Malay Muslim bernama Anwar, will Saiful and his father appeal this case to Hakim Negara to bring Anwar to be trialed in Syariah Court?
8. In Malaysia, money and power meant nothing to those lawyers with integrity who wanted to know the truth so that the trial result is being justified.
9. If Saiful and his father decided not to go for this case, then, their fate and justice are denied by themselves and would ended like these 24 Iraqis
10. Hilarious quotes as reported by The Star Online Malaysia,
Published: Monday January 30, 2012 MYT 8:58:00 PM
Updated: Monday January 30, 2012 MYT 8:59:02 PM
No excuse for Perkasa over “white ang pows,” says Tee Yong
PETALING JAYA: Perkasa cannot be excused for giving out white ang pows at a Chinese New Year gathering on Sunday, said MCA Young Professionals Bureau chief Datuk Chua Tee Yong.
“Perkasa should have been aware. They should have learnt the practices of another race before organising such an event, so that they did not upset anyone,” said Chua.
He was responding to the function organised by Perkasa where Datuk Ibrahim Ali was seen distributing white ang pows to people, mostly senior citizens.
White packets is traditionally associated with the pak kam (white gold), which are donations given at a funeral.
MCA Youth chief Datuk Dr Wee Ka Siong twitted: “Ang pow, in the Hokkien dialect, means red packet. If you want give an ang pow to your friends, make sure the colour is RED.”
Perkasa secretary-general Syed Hassan Syed Ali said they had no idea that “white” ang pow was taboo among the Chinese community.
“To us, white symbolises purity and sincerity. If we had known that it is wrong to give out white ang pow, we would not have done it,” he said.
Gerakan vice-president Datuk Mah Siew Keong said Perkasa should apologise for insulting the Chinese community.
“Being a member of parliament and (having been) in politics for so many years, Ibrahim is still so ignorant of the culture of other races, which is why he has kept making a lot of statements without thinking,” he said in a statement.
11. MCA and Gerakan young goons are still in denial and could not lead by role modelling.
12. As Deputy Minister in MOE, YB Wee said that ang pow (as MOE, the correct 2 Chinese words should be written as “hung pao”) in Hokkien dialect means RED, is he telling us MCA and Chinese must be lead by Hokkien clan?
13. YAB, you see, MCA always tell us that MCA fights for all races, why Perkasa Melayu gave white hung pao and this Datuk Tee Yong felt annoyed?
14. Should Perkasa Melayu apologizes, it’s none of Gerakan’s Mah business since Perdana Menteri DS Najib Tun Razak vowed to us that Malaysia is a democratic country, contohnya, bagi white hung pao sebagai bangsa Melayu in CNY is not something taboo, right?
Goodnight, YAB.
Salam Yang Berbahagia Tun,
“Power” in justice. Their own justice. But this type of justice is not meant for the true muslims anyway,unless the so called ‘muslim’ fonds of (or fondle) ‘boot’ lickin’…either way
*Kalau sudah melakukan/membuat kesalahan dan kezaliman
di masa sekarang,adakah ia akan menjadi benar dan nyata di masa akan datang ? Renungkan lah !
Jangan lagi kita hancurkan Negara tercinta ini di sebabkan seseorang atau kumpulan yang sudah hilang pedoman……..
Perlukah kita bersama hilang pedoman ? Jika perlu,tunggulah sahaja laknat Allah Subhanawataala !
Superficial justice..
Salam Tun dan Semua,
Undang2 Malaysia lar ni dah lapok tak boleh pakai dah. Nak kena ubah. Nak kena bagi dia mesra peliwat sikit hmm…
About those Americans Tun, what can we expect. It’s lucky that these officers did not died in the war. I bet many Pro-Americans would like to regard the Iraqis as collateral damage only. Do they really value their lives that much. They are just bunch of terrorist or suspected terrorist. Except this time, the terrorised victim is terrorising the terrorist. Oops wait a minute, there is no WMD, its a mistake. Well, too bad…
Well Tun, you just stating the obvious. Hat ni dok kata Amerika ni dia ‘tera’ habih. But the fact is, what can we really do?
Assalamualaikum Tun.
Ye la Anwar nak modenkan undang-undang Malaysia.Sebab tu ‘orang ini’ kata hudud patut dilaksanakan hanya pendapat peribadi beliau saje.
Walaupun saya bukan pakar hudud,tapi di sini ingin saya nyatakan bahawa hudud hanya dilaksanakan untuk orang Islam sahaja.
Bunuh dibalas dengan bunuh.Itu pun di atas persetujuan waris si mati.Itu dinamakan keadilan dalam hukuman.Hudud terdapat keberkatan sosial tersembunyi yang mungkin kita tak pernah ketahui dan lihat.
Mungkin hudud adalah perkara sensitif dalam politik.Tetapi secara asasnya bukan muslim perlu tahu tentang hudud.
Sesiapa sahaja boleh membangkang statement saya.Tetapi sepertimana yang pernah saya tulis, dalam surah iqra’ Allah s.w.t mengajar manusia melalui perantaraan qalam – tulisan.
Pada pendapat saya pendapat peribadi ‘orang ini’ memang patut hudud dilaksanakan kerana orang yang melakukan liwat juga dijatuhkan hukuman bunuh dalam Islam (dilaporkan dalam Utusan)
Terima kasih Tun.
Well said Tun.
Even our current system does so. Well not specifically for bargaining pleas. But cases where cops and ministers were not given equivalent punishments based on their crimes. Because of their so called previous services, the punishment is more lenient. Someone recall Rahim Noor??? There were cases of MPs as well getting a lenier sentence. Will try and put some facts on the table for the next postings. I do expect some shots at me for making that statement. Bring it on. Lets start shooting straight. Enough with celf censorship and filters. This is not about Anwar but a system that is in place.
Dr. Mahathir Mohamad,
Salam Takzim
Konvensyen Geneva Dan Dunia Arab
Apakah OIC ada keperluan bagi Pasukan Pengaman OIC yang cekap berteknologi tinggi China dan digeruni sekiranya tidak dihormati?
Teknologi canggih perlu kepada kepakaran dan kebebasan satelit di langit.
Sekian
Salam Sejahtera Tun dan keluarga.
Kita sedia maklum bahawa huru hara yang melanda dunia sekarang ini sama ada dari segi ketenteraan atau pun kewangan tercetus dari negara amerika dan eropah.
pemimpin mereka telah di gelar pembunuh oleh rakyat mereka sendiri.
Cuma yang sangat menghairankan kami pemimpin pemimpin pembunuh ini di sanjung,hingga mereka di jemput untuk memberi ceramah,Malaysia tidak terkecuali,
apa perlu kita menjemput this murderers.Itu yang tak dapat kami telan.
Kami sangat mengharap Global Peace pimpinan Tun dapat membawa pembunuh kejam ini ke muka keadilan.
Terima Kasih Tun May ALLAH bless you Amin
Macam itulah hukum ciptaan manusia. Dimanipulasi mengikut kesesuaian…lebih2 lagi bila di US. Mereka sebenarnya didalam perjalanan kembali ke zaman Cowboys dan seterusnya meneruskan perjalanan mereka ke zaman kuno. Kesian….
Salam Tun.
How about the widely reported “complete annihilation” done by Norman Schwarzkopf in the ‘shooting ducks to death’ to all of the estimated 40,000 fleeing Iraqi troops, and Colin Powell did not bother to stop him?
No case, eh!